Anonymous
Years ago
Good news from the NBL. Who knows how many of the five that have opted out won't return, but the minimum is 45 of the 50. Now to see how many quality free agents re-sign here and how many depart.
https://nbl.com.au/news/hungry-jacks-nbl-contracted-players
Isaac
Years ago
Is there any significant reason for a contracted player, who is in demand, to not opt-out? They can opt back in. Opting out means they can run to Europe if that starts earlier, play briefly abroad if NBL 20/21 gets delayed, etc?
Contracts are not worth the paper there written on, the 45 will still be able to move if they wish, there agents know and are all just waiting to see what happens.
It could end up lawyers at ten paces depending on how the virus subsides, if it stays bad players will cop it and move on but if things get better quickly I'm not certain players will take pay cuts.
Isaac, the only risk I see is that if they opt out... then their team finds another option that is a good fit they might not want to sit and wait to find out if they are coming back.
Eg - Wildcats. If they have the option to sign Motum to replace Nick Kay...would they wait until Kay has had a chance to assess the international market before maybe opting back in? Or do they jump on Motum?
The players and the players association agreed to the reduction in contracts. There will be no lawyers at 10 paces. Just like the AFL and NRL players agreed to pay cuts.
They can opt back in but my understanding is that the team doesn't have to hold the spot on the roster for them. They could be replaced if they opt out.
No players association and management agreed to wage cuts, there was no vote, it was follow the leader mentality, if a few players feel there being hard done by it'll be lawyers at ten paces.
Are all players members of the Players Association? What if they opt-out of the PA? Does the PA agreement apply to them then?
"Is there any significant reason for a contracted player, who is in demand, to not opt-out?"
Isaac, during the period they are "opted out" players don't get paid, so there is a financial disincentive of varying degrees, alongside the chance they could be recruited over the top of, but that wouldn't happen until free agency opens of course.
No one gets paid in the off-season by NBL clubs. That's why when the season finishes they go to other leagues to supplement their incomes.
Players association, player representatives from the teams and management. With 45 of 50 not opting out the likelihood of disgruntled players calling in lawyers is about as high as you understanding the argument and the landscape.
"If they have the option to sign Motum to replace Nick Kay...would they wait until Kay has had a chance to assess the international market before maybe opting back in? Or do they jump on Motum?"
When you put it that way, it seems like a nice problem to have!
say they sign Motum and then Kay finds nothing he likes in europe. Can Kay sign with a different NBL team?
If Perth choose not to retain Kay because they have Motum, then yes, he is free to sign with another team.
koberulz
Years ago
No one gets paid in the off-season by NBL clubs. That's why when the season finishes they go to other leagues to supplement their incomes.Incorrect.
They have no option as they aren't good enough to head overseas
LoveBroker
Years ago
Could this be a play by those opting out?
Player A opts Out of Team A.
Team A finds a replacement in Player B.
Player A pretends to want to come back to Team A but Team A have all roster spots filled.
Player A signs with Team B for more than what Team A was offering (contract less Covid19 provisions).
maxymoo
Years ago
Far more likely to be a genuine desire to play/earn overseas.
Such a move to just move domestically for a relatively small $'s is unlikely.
It could happen though - that's Perth biggest issue ...replace Cotton with an expensive import and then Kay and Cotton both comeback --> you'd have to choose and not honouring contracts isn't a great look.
No one is signing expensive imports moron. There are salary restrictions hence the opt out clauses smfh
D2.0
Years ago
So out of 99 players, we've kept 45. Great news.
The whole thing is sadly typical of the league under LK, lost of noise and short on details.
Just have to wait and see who actually re-signs, and what restrictions are in place.
Supposedy Perth now have 5 contracted players remaining?
Norton, Wagstaff, Steindl, Lo Buluk, and Travers. Or maybe Majok, and Travers will still be a DP and wasn't counted in the initial 7.
There is a reason why I usually do not read your shit Daz. Out of 50 contracted players 45 opted in. My god your are brain dead.
Um the league has 11 players on 9 teams, maybe you want to find out who is brain dead.
KET
Years ago
" We are very pleased that 90% of contracted players have chosen to remain with their NBL clubs"
50 contracted players, 45 opted in, 5 opted out
Uncontracted are irrelevant because they're uncontracted covid or not
KET
Years ago
And it's reduced to 10 players per team this coming season I think?
So out 90 players required 45 have contracts. Maybe we should get under way with free agency.
Cornholio
Years ago
July 1 seems an eternity will be a long slow offseason.
Isaac
Years ago
Eg - Wildcats. If they have the option to sign Motum to replace Nick Kay...would they wait until Kay has had a chance to assess the international market before maybe opting back in? Or do they jump on Motum?I imagine this would be low risk for Kay, for example. Presumably he'd keep the Cats abreast of his plans and vice versa. And if he gets a solid gig in Europe, he's paid and worst case someone can grab him when he returns. Someone will still offer him $200k given his winning nature.
Harpy
Years ago
One thing to consider is this. If Kay and Cotton head to Europe, it means the Europe league is on, which also means the players Perth might want to fill those spots will also be going back there ie Motum, Brandt etc. making the selection pool a little shallower.
Also, the current Euro season didn't finish, unlike the NBL and nothing has been announced on what is going to happen with that. If they chose to complete it, can a team bring in new talent? I wouldn’t think so. This would mean a new contract for next season which is about the same as the NBL so players will have to wait to sign and potentially start after the NBL (assuming October / November)
Also no confirmation on Summer / G League / NBA either. Still so much up in the air with all of this stuff.
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