You can add Anthony Stewart to Cairns. Possibly even Martin Cattalini?

Im surprised Perth havent retired Redhage's jersey yet. Been a longer wait than I thought.

Maybe one thing going against him (possibly) is that he played alot of his best basketball during a time when the league was struggling on and off the court? Though I would think he more than deserves to be recognized.

For other clubs, I would consider the Kings retire Boguts jersey (not so much as a King) but for his contribution to basketball as an Australian over his whole career, for when he retires.

Adelaide
Kevin White

I think we'll find Kevin White's next to Julius Hodge's

I like the Anthony Stewart suggestion.


The Big Cat, Cattalini, is a funny one. Played at a number of clubs you wonder where he reckon she played his best basketball and contributed the most

I would've said Adelaide, without really looking into his numbers.

It doesn't puzzle me at all.

He only played three seasons. The Wildcats reportedly have a games-played minimum, and he doesn't meet it. Even if they didn't have a minimum, he still wasn't here for very long and doesn't belong up there with the rest of those jerseys.

Bad Idea Jack.
You should know by now that ANY thread mentioning the retirement of Jerseys will immediately degenerating into crazed rantings about Bruton.

I don't, I don't even know for sure that it exists.

But his contributions to the club as a non-player really aren't all that relevant to having his jersey retired. That's not what jersey retirement is for. If Nick Marvin or Jack Bendat had happened to have sat on the bench for one game at some point, would you retire their jerseys because of what they did as owner and CEO? Of course not.

Bruton's on-court achievements just aren't significant enough, nor did they occur over a long enough period, to warrant a jersey retirement. His off-court contributions may or may not warrant some other recognition - although even there he gets a lot of credit for things he had nothing to do with - but a jersey retirement isn't the right way to acknowledge that.

my 2 cents:
Journeymen don't get such recognition. It's about contribution to the TEAM, not to the sport.
If the Kings retire Bogut's, that would make a mockery of the whole tradition.

I honestly don't know what the issue is with Redhage.
The only thing I can think of, is that he is still playing???
Martin is surely a lock.
Wagstaff is an interesting debate. Record holding one-team player, but played most games off the bench...
(I'd note that Watterson was not recognised, even when the games record holder.)

Johnson, yeah, debatable, but may still play on, and a combination of achievement and longevity should get him over the line.

Loughton, no. He was a great servant of the club for Cairns, but he was mostly good without being great.
Stewart, same-same. He played his best ball in Perth, and was already on the decline when he joined Cairns. Did well to grind out another 7 seasons, but not really up to the jersey retiring level.
If Jawai kicks on a bit, he should get there. Partially from being such a Cairns Icon, and starting & finishing his career there.

Forman is surely a certainty for the Hawks. Sometime soon?
I guess the only detraction would be that he'd already played half his career before reaching the Hawks and was solid without achieving a lot of highlights?
The obvious candidate is Ball, just think of the merchandising. ;-)
Davidson I thought might be a candidate, but again solid without being great.

CG would be a lock for MU if he sticks it out.

How does it work for somebody like Vukona? He deserves to have NZ retire his Jersey, but presumably won't finish his career with them.

The Kings do have a history of honouring anyone with a heartbeat, so who knows.

Did he really have enough of an impact over a long enough period anywhere in the NBL? One year at Brisbane, out of the league for three years, a couple of years at Geelong, back to Brisbane for another couple of years, Perth for a couple of years, Hobart for a year or two...

There's guys like D-Mac who would absolutely have their jerseys retired were it not for their clubs folding, but I'm not sure Bruton even fits into that category.

Wagstaff is a no from me. Has the longevity but never reached the sort of peak that would warrant it - even if he was vastly better than Watterson.

Jawai is a lock for Cairns already I would say.

NZ just have to wait until Vukona retires/dies/rusts/is no longer supported by the manufacturer, and retire his jersey. It doesn't become complicated just because he finished up elsewhere.

Is there a list of which jerseys are retired for each club?

Is there a list of which jerseys are retired for each club?

Perth:
14 Fenton
6 Ellis
7 Crawford
30 Fisher
21 Vlahov
15 Grace

No idea about the other clubs. I know Melbourne have retired 10 and 21 despite McCarron and Ware wearing them every week. Sydney retired 23 for Heal. NZ 23 for Bruton and 32 for Henare. Is Boucher's 24 retired?

I wonder if Perth were waiting for Damo to retire so they could do him and Shawn together and keep an even number of retired jerseys. They hang half on either side of the championship banners at present.

Adelaide:
4 Darryl Pearce
5 Brett Maher
15 Al Green
33 Mark Davis

Brisbane:

7 Sengstock
22 Radliff
30 Leroy

Cairns:

80 Grabau

Illawarra:

4 Chuck Harmison
5 Gordie McLeod
12 Glen Saville
32 Mat Campbell
33 Melvin Thomas

NZ 23 for Bruton and 32 for Henare. Is Boucher's 24 retired?

Sydney retired 23 for Heal.

I know Melbourne have retired 10 and 21 despite McCarron and Ware wearing them every week.

Cairns:

80 Grabau

Anyone know if all the player numbers are retired?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Kings#Wall_of_Legends

According to https://web.archive.org/web/20160912173858/http://andthefoul.net/NBLwiki/index.php?Sydney%20Kings :

The Sydney Kings once retired Shane Heals jersey but it has since been un-retired and the Kings have decided to have a 'Hall Of Legends' instead.

Came here to see if Kevin White's name was mentioned. Not disappointed.

Perthworld
A couple of hours ago

Cairns:

80 Grabau

That's what I meant. I listed all of the retired numbers.

... after kr said he didn't know about the other clubs other than Perth.

Also GM above asked about a list for each club. I guess you skipped all of those posts.

I know that Melbourne retired Ray Gordon's number.
Presumably because nobody else wanted to wear it, ever.

I think Penney will be the next jersey to be retired in the NBL, couldn't find a more fitting player to have their number retired.

I'd like to see Perth retire #9 but would it be for Rogers or Knight, I'm not sure but I know Shaka Lo Buluk is wearing it now.

If RJ Hampton kills it in the NBA then will that impact Vukona having HIS #14 retired by NZ as they can sell Hampton jerseys beyond last season.

I'd retire DJ's jersey as you need to have some representation of your club and it will be some 20 years since Maher retired and you want your young fan base trying to identify with retired players somehow and who better than multiple All NBL'er and highest scorer since league went back to 40 minutes than DJ. Randle and Sobey surely won't.

I think Penney will be the next jersey to be retired in the NBL, couldn't find a more fitting player to have their number retired.

51 Jason Williams

No-one at Cairns should have their jersey retired. Burned yes, retired no.

DJ is an interesting one. Played most of his games for one team and stuck with them even when Perth began pursuing him. Holds the record for scoring in the new 40 minute era and as of the last season shares the record for most club MVP's.

The big one going against him of course is that he has never won a championship.

One last bit I would add though, and in my opinion his number should be retired just for this as there is no single piece of proof for anyone having more dedication to their club, DJ stuck with Adelaide through the Marty Clarke era when he really could have gon to any club he wanted.

Adelaide has awkwardly had a second tier of sorts - an honoured singlet but without retirement of the number. Ninnis was one. That might be the tier more fitting for DJ and some of the others originally mentioned.

Martin and Redhage in Perth seem obvious. Vukona and Abercrombie also. Not sure the rest make the 'retire singlet' cut without more success or longevity at a single club.

Could measure the second tier purely on games played and make it an NBL honour so it covers time with all clubs?

Maher is the last retire jersey worthy player for the 36ers - and deservedly that has been done.

In the foyer area/hallways of the Entertainment Centre they should (probably have already) recognise 36ers 'iconic' players throughout the years.

Iconic may be your stars like Brett Maher, or your crowd pleasers like Willie Farley, or your broader NBL stars like Cattalini, Rob Rose, or your 'icons' like Paul Rees.

DJ, with his multiple 36ers MVPs would fit right in.

Others to be celebrated would be Darnell Mee, KB etc.

How were they running out of numbers with over 20 of them still available?

D2.0, regarding contribution to the sport, I believe the Miami Heat retired MJ's number despite never having played for them. Why LBJ wore #6 whilst there.
Different league I know, but an example of (playing) contribution without ever suiting up for that particular team.

The second tier is something I like. A good recognition of former players

Right, it's much better to just let people make up whatever shit they want.

You do it all the time, why can't others?

Jawai's greatest NBL achievement was in Perth.

If Martin is a lock then maybe Wagstaff gets in too. Both are in there for more than stats. Neither got a free ride to those championships.