Anonymous
Years ago
Wildcats named 2020 NBL Champions; Cotton finals MVP
The right outcome
Anonymous
Years ago
The right outcome
Wonder what happens to punters who put money on Sydney.
Yes it is the right outcome, I'm disappointed that kings at least didn’t fight it out, even if imports wanted out, imo Smith went along with the decision but I’m not convinced it’s the one he’d have made on his own.
Kai
Years ago
So Anticlimatic... but Yay. Ring ceremonies on first home game.
I'm a Perth fan and I'm happy but acknowledge the asterix that goes with this win.
Lovebroker
Years ago
Very anti-climatic but the most logical result.
Cotton deserved it, what a remarkable series for him
Curtley
Years ago
Anyone know what Rule 34 of the NBL Operations Manual says?
>Anyone know what Rule 34 of the NBL Operations Manual says?
If it exists, there's porn of it
Perthworld
Years ago
Wonder what happens to punters who put money on Sydney.
You would have to go back to 1981 for a previous asterix type season.
Launceston won as St Kilda participated in world club championship instead of NBL finals.
Still congrats to Perth and Bryce Cotton.
Judge
Years ago
Does this move Gleeson into the title of greatest Perth coach ever? His record is phenomenal especially given the fallout with Nielsen and Forde too.
Luuuc
Years ago
I would have been cool either way, I'm mostly glad that Cotton gets his GF MVP award.
If everything had gone by the book and the series had been canned with us at 2-1, I think no champion would have been the better outcome (which I have said here previously), but due to the way Smith and the Kings have tried to weasel their way through the past week, I'm a lot less reluctant to accept the Cats as champs.
twenty four
Years ago
Why is a French comic book being mentioned in here?
LV
Years ago
Initially I said the only fair outcome was a shared/drawn/no outcome- something equal
After reconsidering, I'm now sitting on the fence on this one. I don't have a strong opinion either way anymore.
Congrats Perth- the benchmark of the NBL.
Cotton well deserved GF MVP. I wouldn't have minded them awarding him even without awarding a champion, since he was by so far and away the best player it wasn't even a discussion.
ME
(he/kangaroo)
Years ago
Logic prevails. Perth were the far superior team in the playoffs and finals, Sydney chose to withdraw. Any other outcome would have been a farce. NBL consulted legal teams and others to come to this decision so it's probably less to do with what they "want" to do but what they "have" to do in this case.
Either way, for what it was there was some great basketball played in the playoffs and the finals. Put an asterisk next to the championship but we wont soon forget everything that surrounded it. An extraordinary set of circumstances for sure. If nothing else, I think the virus will make us all appreciate the glory of normality. Just finishing a series of basketball games as planned seems like a luxury of a bygone era right now. When we return to that normality we will appreciate it much more.
D2.0
Years ago
Hmmm,
A lot could be said about how we finally got it here, but that would be ungracious at this point, so I'll just say a fan's thankyou, and congratulations to the Cats.
Virus and empty stadiums not withstanding, its been a cracker of a finals. Semi's were awesome, and looked like they could have gone either way.
And The GF was incredible. Winning a 3 game series, by winning both away games, that's pretty special.
D2.0
Years ago
Oh, and congrats to Bryce Cotton. What a season he's had.
Father, MVP, and finals MVP. Hopefully he can top that off with citizenship and stay around for a long time to come.
Gus3232
Years ago
Judge - Gleeson moved into the #1 slot for Perth coaches several years ago. Just using the simple criteria of being the only coach to win more than one title with Perth would do it, but he has brought a lot of stuff to the table.
Perthworld
Years ago
Why is a French comic book being mentioned in here?
Watto
Years ago
Rule 34 - If in doubt, give the rings to the Wildcats!
Luuuc
Years ago
I notice the Cats have put little gold asterisks above the word champions on their merch just to keep everyone happy ;)
Perthworld
Years ago
Winning a 3 game series, by winning both away games, that's pretty special.
twenty four
Years ago
Not really sure about this one. It would be interesting to read the Operations Manual, maybe that has a clear answer, but it doesn't feel right.
And any 'forfeit' claims are just stupid, even if being down in the series was on the mind of the Kings. If players weren't comfortable with the idea of having to play/travel/stay in the country for even a few more days or just didn't think it was worth it, that shouldn't be viewed negatively at a time like this.
Perthworld
Years ago
The Kings decided to walk away from the series - the league had not cancelled it yet at that stage. They forfeited and Wildcats won on a walkover. It's pretty simple really.
Zodiac
Years ago
Congrats Perth the right outcome and good to see SBS Viceland are replaying the SF and GF games next week.
I have absolutely no love for Perth, I actually get pissed off at their success but it is the correct decision.
I take my hat to the nbl, excellent press conference and Jeremy and Larry spoke superbly, we are very lucky to have them running the league, from the shambles it was to what we have today.
Onwards and upwards for basketball and nbl.
Congratulations Perth and Bryce.
Commiserations Sydney.
Lovebroker
Years ago
The Kings didn't forfeit.
The series was cancelled at Game 4 due to uncontrollable events.
The series completed at Game 3.
The rest is just logical.
Thank you Kings for blocking every option provided by the NBL, this was going to be a great series, but you guys help ruin it for everyone.
But hey...like Paul Smith says you are the most consistent team in NBL history. You shatter even when stacked. Congrats.
Perth was the b tree team over the three gam s played. I'm a bullets fan so I’m not biased.
Perthworld
Years ago
See, even the neutrals agree.
*group hug*
Oh wait scratch the hugging bit. My bad.
Would Sydney still want to play if they won Game 3??? asking for a friend
Senator11
Years ago
Most surprisingly the NBL came to a logical and competent decision...
"The Kings didn't forfeit.
The series was cancelled at Game 4 due to uncontrollable events."
They did. They refused to play. Maybe forfeit isn't the right word in the professional environment - "abandonment" is what JL said in the presser.
Lovebroker
Years ago
If you insist on the angle of forfeiting the Kings will use Corona as their defence.
All we need to say was it was completed earlier than planned (I'm all for an asterisk) and there was a clear 2-1 winner.
If there is a 2020-2021 season and the Wildcats manage to win again it would be a 3 peat as controversial as the Gorjian spend until you fold Kings ;P
Trevor Torrance
Years ago
Question- Why is Cotton saying on his IG story- Congrats to Rhy Vague on his 4th Champion and "I'm never gunna catch him!- We know Rhy will prob go elsewhere next season and Cotton has a chance to win 3-4 more rings in the next few years (if he sticks around!!!). hmmmmm
Like I said, JL was pretty clearly talking about abandonment and the rules sourrounding it in the press conference. If it was just called off due to outside factors or force majeure then I would think the decision would have been different.
rjd
Years ago
Another neutral here that thinks this was clearly the only sensible decision *at this stage*.
*TimberBall*
Years ago
Right decision was made, bad luck Kings historic season and deserved to be able to play out the series, but that was your call to make. Can't wait for 20/21.
Judge
Years ago
Maybe the Cats can get their own court decal next year of "Title Town" with a nice big X in it. Meanwhile the Kings should be permanently removing that Hoops Capital crap off theirs
Hopefully the banner is unveiled and rings received against Bogut, Ware and Sydney
Lovebroker
Years ago
And the Kings will duly handover the Game 3 ball plus the Qudos nets?
#880 just showed what happens when you google fiba headquarters
Anon
Years ago
Strong Hint from Cotton that he will be an Aussie soon?
https://www.instagram.com/p/B95Zbg-j5K5/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Offseason is here but the work is far from over... stay tuned.. I have something exciting for y'all on the way!
"Most surprisingly the NBL came to a logical and competent decision"
why is it a surprise? the NBL have been doing a great job for a few years now
Perthworld
Years ago
Maybe the Cats can get their own court decal next year of "Title Town" with a nice big X in it. Meanwhile the Kings should be permanently removing that Hoops Capital crap off theirs
Hopefully the banner is unveiled and rings received against Bogut, Ware and Sydney
And the Kings will duly handover the Game 3 ball plus the Qudos nets?
Are there any Perth supporters that have any humility, the right decision was made but for f..k sake be humble. Re Smith, it's fine for Perth to have a good solid financial base but as soon as Sydney get one you are all whining. We need more owners like Smith in the league.
Man Perthworld knows it all. My current bet365 for the Kings to win is still active.
Not sure how anyone can see the 3 three games and based on the play not judge Perth the better team and deserved winners. They outplayed the kings over the three games and didn't forfeit.
"Man Perthworld knows it all. My current bet365 for the Kings to win is still active."
Yeah you sure showed him! You're definitely going to make a packet on that bet!
No cares Sydney got a strong financial base (although with the amount of money they'll lose, that remains to be seen), but they do care that the continued antics of the Kings owner makes himself and the league look stupid. He's a sore loser and goes on the attack every time he loses.
D2.0
Years ago
Re Smith, it's fine for Perth to have a good solid financial base but as soon as Sydney get one you are all whining. We need more owners like Smith in the league.
Great duty of care by kings brass. They didn't want Casper Ware hitting the side of the backboard and missing anymore wide open layups. Very classy looking after your top paid employee like that. Tip my hat to you.
Let the sooks moan about the asterix win.
As a Perth fan I have tried to be humble knowing this was not a typical grand final win.
But with Paul Smith, Bogut and some Sydney fanboys what the he'll I'm going to party tonight #10titlesbaby.
Drink responsibly, drink corona.
K4L
Years ago
Wildcats whipped the Kings in the regular season, and again in the finals. Well done Perth Champions again.
What is the Kings' war cry next year? Go hard or go to Sydney? The Violet Crumbles? The Sydney Queens?
Lovebroker
Years ago
Re Smith, it's fine for Perth to have a good solid financial base but as soon as Sydney get one you are all whining.
Senator11
Years ago
Bryce being interviewed this morning on Nova after 8am WA, I'm sure they will ask him about his citizenship.
i am a Kings supporter, BUT PERTH ARE THE CHAMPIONS!
PERTH led 2/1 in the series , and The Kings decided not to come out for game 4!!!
Season games do not count. Minor premiers are NOT always championship winners.
PERTH were the BEST in the FINALS which is where the championship is decided.
WELL DONE PERF
This is what happens when half your team is full of senior citizens you need a week to recover from the game they couldn't play any earlier than Friday
D2.0
Years ago
And it has to be said, that whilst it wasn't quite as expected, the final result was what we have been talking about all season with the Kings.
To their credit, they held onto top spot all season, and yes that has never been done before. But as we predicted, they weren't looking good towards the end.
Weaver had a stacked team, and did well, but when things got tough he was found out. Gleeson whinges too much on the sidelines, and needs to upsize his polo, but damn he can coach.
Bogut when healthy would still be the best player in the country, but he hasn't been 100% for a while. He was always going to struggle to consistently play starters minutes, and they don't have an effective backup. Hunter barely saw the court, and Elbows is a completely different style of player. Makes it hard when you're running two completely different systems, dependent on whether he's on the court.
To their credit, with guys like Bruce, Cooks, and Didi, they assembled admirable depth, but you can't disguise that Newley and Lisch's best days are behind them.
And whilst it may not have been pretty, and some guys still struggled, collectively Perth DID lift for the GF series.
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