Dech. Serious?

Dech was a development player last year who is now in the conversation for DPOY. So absolutely has a shot at Most Improved.

Magnay is my most improved.

Best part is that espn will be showing it live on TV, sbs demand and nbl tv.

Surely cotton even if you hate perth he has been the most consistent player, especially on the offensive end.

Teys MVP obvs

Machado should be MVP.

Yeah, I think Ball gets it because none of the players who should be eligible have made much of a case unfortunately.

Please do not give COTY to Mike Kelly.

Will Weaver or Gleeson.

MVP: Cotton
ROY: Noi
6th Man: Griffin
MIP: Magnay
DPOY: Newbill (better not be Bogut!)

All NBL Teams

First Team
Machado
Cotton
Patterson
Tate
Oliver

Second
Ware just ahead of Randle
Newbill
Hopson
Kay just over Creek
Long just over Johnson

So the NBL is making the Next Stars eligible for ROTY after all? This is placing an asterisk on the award. It also robs a local of the award, which was always the spirit of the award. Rookie imports (non-locals) were never previously eligible for ROTY. Imports straight out of college were obviously never eligible because it was an award for locals. I suppose the rationale is that Next Stars are somehow technically classified as "unrestricted" players. Why? No real reason, just because the NBL felt like it. So they tweaked the rules to designate Next Stars as unrestricted players, despite there appearing to be a restriction on the number of Next Star players allowed per team. Doesn't make sense. Next time let's just rename the ROTY award as the Next Star of the Year award.

To be honest, I'd be perfectly fine with Hampton, Bowen, Ennis etc being eligible. But Ball has a season of pro ball under his belt, so his inclusion is a joke.

MVP I'd love to see Cotton and Machado tie for the Andrew Gaze medal.
ROY Noi or Dech
MIP Magnay and Dech tie
6M I dunno but Ashley has played well when he doesn't foul
COY Kelly with special mention to Weaver, Gleeson and Shamir, Flinn is clueless


All NBL 1st team

Machado
Cotton
Patterson
Tate (Hopson is the only other player worthy of being in this team but injuries are cruel)
Oliver

All NBL 2nd team

Roberson (I think he's had a better season than Randle and Ware and SEM are shit without him)
Newbill
Hopson
Kay
Long/Bogut/Johnson (seems like Plumlee would get this if he played more games as others are way too inconsistent)

Whoops forgot defensive player of the year, it's hard with Lisch and Damo injured a lot but Magnay, Newbill, Oliver and Ware have impressed me this season

MVP- Machado
Rookie- Ball
6th man- Griffin
MIP- Magnay
DEF- Magnay
Coach- Kelly

All NBL 1st team

Machado
Cotton
Patterson
Kay
Oliver

All NBL 2nd team

Newbill
Hopson
Creek
Tate
Long

Is it the best team award or is it a coach who has done the most with what they have?

best team then it just goes on the ladder, who has done the most would be
Kelly
Gleeson
Weaver
Mitchell

BUT - dont underestimate how hard it is to coach a staked, star-studded team! Egos, individual agendas, role setting, chemistry building, getting the right system, getting the ball in the right hands at the right time... VERY tough!

My picks:

MVP- Cotton
Rookie- Ball
6th man-
MIP- Pineau
DEF- Newbill
Coach- Gleeson/Kelly

What the NBL will pick:

MVP- Bogut
Rookie- Cooks (if he's not nominated, the rules will change on the night)
6th man- Kickert ties with Taylor
MIP- Bruce
DEF- Bogut
Coach- Weaver

MVP - Cotton
MIP - Magnay
DPOTY - Newbill
ROTY - Ball
6th Man - Ashley
COTY - Kelly

1st Team

Machado
Cotton
Patterson
Kay
Oliver

2cnd

Ware
Newbill
Hopson
Tate
Long

Machado for MVP
Kelly for Coach
Bruce for most improved

1st Team

Machado
Cotton
Patterson
Kay
Oliver

2cnd

Ware
Newbill
Hopson
Tate
Long

Who votes? There in lies the answer. Coach of the year? I'll give you a hint. Where do all the free agents in the league want to go next year?

Griffin for 6th Man? Lol, you lost all credibility with that answer.

"Griffin for 6th Man?"

I don't think anyone is a standout for 6th man and it's an unnecessary award IMo, but he'd be pretty close to having the best stats of anyone coming off the bench?

MVP - Machado
MIP - Pineau
DPOTY - Newbill
ROTY - Ball
6th Man - Ashley
COTY - Kelly

I think Long's last season fade, unless he beasts the last 3 games, has him just miss. I have Ware I’m reluctantly because he has been a leader but damn we overhype him given his shooting % (last year wasn’t much better)

1st

Machado
Cotton
Patterson
Tate
Oliver

2nd

Ware (just ahead of randle and Roberson)
Newbill
Creek (just ahead of hopson, missed a lot of games)
Kay
Johnson

I agree that Moller got dudded on the 6th man nomination, also the numbers say he got dudded on the DPOY award also. The reality is that a quality true 6th man isn't going to be your average stats builder or dominant ball handler like Bryce Cotton, he is likely to be extremely impactful on the defensive end, and do a lot of little things such box outs and screen assists. Score, rebound and assist teammates at a reasonable clip.

Yes - the kings are 10-1 with him and 8-7 without him, but lets look at some more of the gross rounded numbers.

Kings with Moller
Average Points Conceded per Game: 84
Average Points Scored per game: 94

Kings without Moller
Average Points Conceded per game: 91 (note: they concede 90 if you exclude the games Bogut is missing)
Average Points Scored per game: 94

Even though Moller's game isn't as interesting to watch as Clint Stiendl, Shaun Bruce, Daniel Kickert, Jason Cadee, Kyle Adnam etc who have been nominated, he has better overall stats anyway. My pick for the winner here is Eric Griffin.

My pick for MVP is Bryce Cotton, with Scott Machado an outside shot.

Most Improved - WiIl Magnay, because he has the right media team and they are building hype for the NBA next year, I think Dane Pineau will be unlucky.

DPOY - I think this will go to Andrew Bogut, even despite the numbers this year not being as favourable.

Rookie - Lamelo Ball - for the same media reason.

Coach: Will Weaver.

Right, Griffin who is lazy on D (apart from the odd block) and doesn't rebound. Give him the 6th Man award right now!

If you think Griffin is the best off the bench, you are smoking something terrible.

Drugs are bad, m'kay?

"If you think Griffin is the best off the bench, you are smoking something terrible."

Ppl continually don't read on this forum, or can't read, I said he likely has the best stats coming off the bench (I have not looked). Never did I, or anyone else say he is the best off the bench.

"The thing is no matter how good his stats are he's rubbish other than the odd great game offensively."

The thing is, stats are the easiest way to judge a 6th man, those 1%ers aren't sexy and unless you have a decent knowledge of how basketball works then it can be missed, I feel like those 1%ers would be missed by the NBL so have to lean towards stats when all else fails.

Oh yeah, I definitely can read. I just think you are wrong, stats are what you need to look at. It is the easiest way to judge 6th man, because it is the right way to do so.

Can we just ignore stats for MVP too? Because Jordan Ngatai had that sweet dunk last round, so he should definitely should get MVP.

Griffin is garbage, you must be an Adelaide fan. No, strike that. Not even Adelaide fans would vote for him if they could. And no, he does not have the best stats of all the bench players.

Seriously dude, lay off the crack.

"Seriously dude, lay off the crack."

The irony...

"but I can't recall the last time there was such a clear-cut winner."

James Ennis...and he didn't win.

Just Curious, Are all those suggesting others for MVP simply doing so to Troll Perf fans?

Sorry but Cotton has absolutely torched teams when he's needed to.
Machado has played excellent as well this season and is a huge reason Cairns is where they are but Bryce Cotton is the Most Valuable Player in the League.
If he was a free agent tomorrow every single team is calling him.

As they would Machado he'll be the biggest free agent on the market.

"I think its was more that Rotnei and Goulding were better players on shitty teams so no one else was getting their votes."

^This. Pretty sure Hawks didn't even make playoffs that year, and yeah I think the voting was a bit different. I remember at the time it was pretty hard to know much about other teams as the coverage and the social media from the NBL was non-existent and Rotnei won, I was actually the first person to coin the term, "who the f@#$ is this guy", not Conor McGregor, he just made it cool and added his accent to it...

On another note regarding MVP, why are there 15 candidates in a 9 team league?!? Absolute overkill and unnecessary. 5 candidates is more than enough.

36ers fans deserve an award for copping such a frequently frustrating team and not having a heart attack due to high blood pressure

Bryce Cotton's ordinary games this season.

Oct 18: 14p 5-13 fg (3-5 3pt) in 99-76 loss to Cairns

Oct 27: 21p 7-21 fg (3-11 3pt) in 81-76 win over Illawarra

Nov 1: 15p 6-12 fg (3-5 3pt) in 87-78 loss to Brisbane

Nov 3: 4pt 2-13 fg (0-5 3pt) in 84-79 win over NZ

Nov 15: 18p 5-16 fg (2-9 3pt) in 99-95 win over Adelaide

Nov 23: 10p 3-15 fg (2-9 3pt) in 91-84 loss to Cairns

Dec 1: 18p 7-16 fg (3-9 3pt) in 99-88 loss to Adelaide

Dec 21: 15p 5-17 fg (2-9 3pt) in 87-74 loss to Melbourne

Jan 1: 22p 8-21 fg (2-9 3pt) in 100-97 loss to Adelaide

Jan 5: 24p 9-22 fg (1-7 3pt) in 97-85 loss to Brisbane

Feb 1: 30p 9-25 fg (2-12 3pt) in 110-100 win over Sydney

Maybe you could also put up all of Machado's games where he has missed a lot of shots? And don't think about including rebounds or assists because you didn't use those numbers for Cotton...

"Best forum award"

Everyone seems to think coach of the year is Kelly. I don't know. If he took the last place team last year and made those same guys better this year maybe. But what he did is get 5 better guys. Ever been on a team that just played the starters? You have six guys who are pissed every day. Pissed at practice. Pissed on the bus. Pissed at the games. And on the phone with their agents everyday saying get me out of here.
You basically kill a players career because they have no stats. You really think any of those bench guys want to be there next year? All of Weaver' s bench are going to be sought after next year. He made those guys better. With minutes and confidence. Never saw a post game news conference where he wasn't singing their praises. And talking up the other teams coaches and players and fans. No other coach did that in any post game interview and I watched them all.
Coaches and team captain's vote. Coaches all hate each other, so I think they cancel each other out. But every good Australia player has had a time on the boomers squad over the last 6 summers.
And don't forget that the only coach that took on the refs this year was Weaver. All the players I've talked to loved that.
Plus when the Olympic committee needed a replacement for Brett they didn't ask Kelly. Even after they fired him he was willing to take the job on between end of season and play offs. Which could really damage Sydney s playoff chances.
Plus Weaver and Joey are the only two coaches that aren't a walking advertisements. And the argument that he had a stacked team doesn't wash because he put that team together. Weaver found ten guys who with some coaching can play. Kelly found 5 and basically said screw you to the others . That's a win short term but is foolish in the long run.
And one last thing. If you think Sydney is good this year, just wait till next year because I have had many really good players tell me that if they can get on with Sydney next year they will jump ship. As a player where would you want to be next year? Best defense and leading the league all year for the first time in NBL history while playing everyone should mean something.