Anonymous
Years ago
Philly's Matisse Thybulle a potential Boomer?
Apparently he's a dual USA-Australian citizen. Wonder if he's interested in representing Australia at the Olympics
cavolo
Years ago
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-basketball/uws-matisse-thybulle-gets-chance-to-develop-game-with-pac-12-all-stars-in-australia/
cavolo
Years ago
A snippet from the article re growing up in Australia....
"For starters, it's a long-awaited homecoming to the country where he spent a portion of his youth.
The 19-year-old Thybulle, who was born in Scottsdale, Ariz., moved to Sydney, Australia with his family in 1998 when he was 2. They lived there for seven years before settling in Sammamish, Wash. in 2005."
BB
Years ago
Pick and Roll published a story today on this.
A potentially huge development. I'd be very surprised if Basketball Australia, Ben Simmons and/or Brett Brown haven't started a conversation with Thybulle about an opportunity to represent Australia, possibly as early as the 2020 Olympics.
This could be big news for the boomers but not so good for NBL boomer hopefuls.
I asked this years ago on this forum and most people said indatically he had no citizenship and was ineligible.
I could see this being an 'expedient' decision for him, ie he probably for all intents and purposes considers himself an American, but would likely never make the USA Team. If he ever wanted to play international basketball, playing for Australia would offer the quickest path. Likely medal contention being a bit of a added benefit! I honestly hope it happens, but won't be losing sleep over it.
LC
Years ago
First reported and confirmed here today: Matisse's really an Aussie: Could we see Thybulle in Boomers green and gold beside Ben Simmons?
Might be really an Aussie but being born in the US I'm calling BS. Now if Dutton thinks he’s an young french lass trying to be a baby sitter, he’s a chance.
(I hate it when people say things "indatically")
What?
Perthworld's big brother
Years ago
Lol.
Let's find as many loophole players as possible.
How is it a loophole if he has Aussie citizenship. It comes down to his choice and that alone.
Having both Mitchell and whotcomb or Griffin would be a loophole.
" This could be big news for the boomers but not so good for NBL boomer hopefuls "
Forget about nbl players, they suck
so if Thybulle plays for the boomers can Cotton as well
Did Cotton get naturalised on Australia Day?
If he did then I vote yes
(" This could be big news for the boomers but not so good for NBL boomer hopefuls "
Forget about nbl players, they suck)
True
KET
Years ago
If this bloke was any chance of being in an Australian uniform, we'd have heard it by now.
ME
(he/kangaroo)
Years ago
"A potentially huge development. I'd be very surprised if Basketball Australia, Ben Simmons and/or Brett Brown haven't started a conversation with Thybulle about an opportunity to represent Australia, possibly as early as the 2020 Olympics."
No I am not that confident that Basketball Australia would have. They dropped the ball on Kyrie Irving until Kyrie himself looked into the possibility. I doubt they've asked Thybulle anything. Brown might not even know. It might even be up to the fans to educate them on the possibility, strangely enough.
"" This could be big news for the boomers but not so good for NBL boomer hopefuls "
Forget about nbl players, they suck"
I'm hesitant to say they suck but when you look at the best possible Boomers squad you tend to get about 10 NBA players plus Bogut, who spent most of his time there.
Ben Simmons
Patty Mills
Joe Ingles
Jock Landale/Jonah Bolden?
Aron Baynes
Matthew Dellavedova
Dante Exum
Bryce Cotton?
Ryan Broekhoff
Matisse Thybulle
thon Maker
Andrew Bogut
Chris Goulding
Do any of you people watch or follow the nba, there is so many players that are hardly playing, or in the g league. Some of those guys are totally spudding up in their five minutes as well.
If Pick & Roll reached out to the 76ers and they confirmed it with them (shown in their article)z you would assume it's true. Because of this, Brett Brown (and Simmons) would definitely know being he’s on the same team.
While I’m unsure if the rules will permit both Thybulle and Cotton on the team, they definitely have different circumstances... Thybulle was living here and gained citizenship as a kid that had been living here... not naturalised for elite sporting reasons, like Cotton will be. Therefore, I think he’ll be ok. After all, Maker can play gaining citizenship as a refugee. If he gets approved, and wants to play... I don’t think any NBL players outside of Bogut would make the team.
PG - Simmons
SG - Mills
SF - Ingles
PF - Baynes
C - Bogut
Bench
PG - Dellavedova
SG - Exum
SG - Cotton
SF - Thybulle
SF - Broekhoff
PF - Bolden
PF/C - Maker
That would be the best team Australia has ever put together and a medal favourite
Following/Future tournaments potentially...
96 Simmons / 95 Exum / 02 Wigness
92 Cotton / 00 Green / 94 Dech / 02 Giddey / 02 King
97 Thybulle / 92 Creek / 97 Noi / 01 Travers
92 Kay / 97 Maker / 96 Bolden / 98 Magnay / 95 Cooks
95 Landale / 98 Humphries / 94 Acuil
Centre looks our weakest position going forward.
[
PG - Simmons
SG - Mills
SF - Ingles
PF - Baynes
C - Bogut
Bench
PG - Dellavedova
SG - Exum
SG - Cotton
SF - Thybulle
SF - Broekhoff
PF - Bolden
PF/C - Maker ]
Exactly the same team I would pick for Tokyo. Anon.
FFS, we don't need kay and goulding, too slow, unathletic and can't play defense.
^^ why do you say that? They played together a lot in Rio. International basketball is very different to the NBA, teams clog the lane and defend. Size matters!
What really helps is that Baynes has developed his perimeter shooting a lot in recent years. Bogut is also quite competent playing out to the perimeter offensively with his passing game so I do think they can still play together.
ME
(he/kangaroo)
Years ago
Hesitant to put Bolden in there. You don't need a guy deciding he doesn't get enough minutes and jumping ship mid way. If it were up to me he would've forfeited his citizenship that day
"FFS, we don't need kay ... can't play defense."
Has there been a more ignorant comment ever posted on hoops?
(Hesitant to put Bolden in there. You don't need a guy deciding he doesn't get enough minutes and jumping ship mid way. If it were up to me he would've forfeited his citizenship that day)
It's a good thing it’s not up to ME
BigBen’sBabyBlanketBrettB
Years ago
Brettie here
Leave JoJo alone he's ok. I’m mates with his old man.
Not his fault Lemonass played Kayos ahead of him and made him cry
Yeah Little Thissie 'll play for us if I ask him
Can’t have two many who can shoot the sh&t out of it
See ya in Tokyo
Simmons
Mills
Ingles
Landale
Baynes
Delly
Broekoff
Exum
Bogut
Maker
Cotton/ Goulding
Thybulle
Simmons
Mills
Ingles
Landale
Baynes
Dellavedova
Cotton
Thybulle
Maker
Bogut
Broekhoff
Last spot - Exum, Goulding, Green, Creek, Kay, Bolden
delly wont be going to the olympics, if cotton, exum, and thybulle are in the team
Exum has sucked.
Delly a much better floor general and passer.
Reality
Years ago
Delly going to the Olympics, proven player at the level and in FIBA comps.
Fringe NBA guys who won't make it unless something dramatic happens.
Exum - Needs to worry about staying in the NBA, not sure who he gets into the team ahead of
Maker - Maybe but does his game suit FIBA as he can't guard in the block at all so do we have better options?
Bolden - G-League player and simply not good enough
ME
Years ago
Delly will be in the team. What he does in the NBA is irrelevant. He has a good track record for the Boomers and that is what will be on minds when they select the team.
Reality
Years ago
Maker would be ahead of Bolden clearly....Bolden might be spewing about the tantrum he had at the last Boomers camp as he was only a G-League player and expected to get the silver service, he'll be just ok when he gets back to the NBL.
Senator11
Years ago
I love Delly as much as the next person, but Exum is a very good defender and we're going to need that, at the expense of who I'm not sure though. Thybulle is a very good defender too, but until he confirms he would like to play for the Boomers we need Exum I think.
I'd take Kay over Bolden, Kay was terrific in China and Bolden was a toddler. Goulding, like Patty, has elevated in the green and gold and I didn't rate him going into Worlds but he was great for us there. Thybulle would certainly add some wing depth and defensive aggression that would be extremely valuable if Ingles shows up with an allergy to shooting again.
Captain Jack
Years ago
My Boomers team
Baynes
Landale
Ingles
Mills
Simmons
Maker
Bogut
Bolden
Broekhoff
Thybulle
Delly
Exum
Next in line if someone unavailable - Mathiang, Creek, Humphries, Adel, Green, Goulding, Kay, Motum, Bairstow
I didnt consider Cotton as he isnt currently a citizen,
Reality
Years ago
Bolden has been putting up numbers in the G-League that suggest he'd be a very good NBL1 import!
Captain Jack
Years ago
I know there are some exceptions
In General, GLeague stats and NBL stats translate fairly well
Bolden is averaging 12p,3a,7r in 25 mins
Kay is avergaing 14p, 3a, 8r in 30 mins
So Bolden stacks up very well vs Kay who he would be competing with for a spot.
Bolden like Kay would be an excellent NBL player if he were playing in the NBL.
So hardly a failure or NBL1 level guy as some seem to think.
Bolden compares pretty well but in a tiebreaker Kay has the advantage of being a Boomer previously
kay is too slow and unathletic, i rather have bolden in the team
Some of those nba guys done nothing, Maker will get eaten in FIBA, wasn't even that good against the Philippines. Bolden, Exum not much happening and Humphries lol.
rjd
Years ago
Delly has always needed to be surrounded by the right players to be effective in the NBA. His spot on the Boomers team shouldn't be contingent upon his NBA minutes. Although going 16.7% on 3-pointers this season is a big worry. Is he still persisting with the new technique? His career 36.8% is healthy.
Thybulle would be an excellent fit on the Boomers. If he plays, suddenly we go from lacking depth at the 3 to having three NBAers at the 3, two that often start.
Kym Taylor and Mick Corkeron experiment all over again, desperately finding American with Australian ties. Aren't we good enough to get players that actually know anthem, what a meat pie and chiko roll is.
Perthworld Ettridge.
Years ago
I still remember Drake U'U the "Aussie" wildcat.
rjd
Years ago
If Thybulle really obtained citizenship in 2006, it's a bonus that his citizenship was obtained before age 16, so he wouldn't take up the naturalised spot. This would also allow for the inclusion of Cotton.
Thybulle is one of those rare players who gets defensive highlight compilations on YouTube. Inserting two excellent defensive players in Simmons and Thybulle, along with strong interior defenders (Bogut, Baynes), notable defensive guards (Exum, Delly*), and strong defensive wings (Ingles, plus add in Broehoff), the Boomers team is looking like a strong defensive team.
(* I have to put an asterisk next to Delly as I wonder if he has regressed significantly at the defensive end.)
Matisse Thybulle proud of his Australian roots
https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/76ers/matisse-thybulle-proud-his-australian-roots
ME
Years ago
From reading the Pick and Roll article it seems like he is interested in playing for the Boomers at the Olympics, but the cards have to fall right. Probably has to be not-injured, not tired, and not have an offer from USA Basketball. That I can completely understand. With Ben and Brett involved I'd say we have a good chance of getting him.
hoopie
Years ago
I think it will come down to whether Ben and Jonah like him rather than whether Brett does.
Also, would Brett have the cojones to select him if BA don't have a clue who he is?
Jonah shouldn't be in boomers discussions.
Thybulle a chance if Brown or Simmons can chat to him.
I don't see him getting an offer from team USA.
ME
Years ago
Jonah can suck an egg. And with him being traded from Philly I see no real guarantee Brown would want him on the team, or that Jonah would want to play for Brown on the team. remember Jonah's ego has to be stroked just right for him to stay with a team.
Jonah's actually a really nice guy. Boomers WC leadup aside his done a lot of good things outside of bball that you’ve got to respect.
I'm not adding Cotton until we know for sure he is naturalised.
Simmons
Mills
Ingles
Landale
Baynes
Dellavedova
Exum
Goulding
Broekhoff
Kay
Thon Maker
Bogut.
Simmons / Dellavedova
Mills / Cotton / Thybulle
Ingles / Broekhoff
Landale / Maker / Kay
Baynes / Bogut
Goulding and Exum not in great form.
Exum will be dellys replacement in the future, green will be millsreplacement promoting cotton to starting sg.
Bogut and Baynes gone, Magnay, bolden, Humphries, mathiang the other options in the post.
If Thybulle is available then Exum is redundant
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