Anonymous
Years ago
What does each coach/team need to achieve, to avoid awkward questions being asked.
ADELAIDE: A winning season.
BRISBANE: Make the finals.
CAIRNS: already passed.
HAWKS: Not win the spoon.
UNITED: Make the GF
BREAKERS: Winning Season
PERTH: Maintain the Streak
PHOENIX: 12 Wins
SYDNEY: Make the GF
Isaac
Years ago
I'd agree with all those. Perth, Sydney and Melbourne really need to be making the post-season at a minimum. Cairns have defied expectations already. Phoenix maybe dodge bottom two. Adelaide and New Zealand to at least be in the post-season mix come the last round. Post-season for Adelaide would be beating expectations. Brisbane - probably post-season? Hawks have been hamstrung by the import situation (Ball bailing and Brooks not getting replaced well) so I don't know if the coach is the primary concern, probably more so club survival.
Adelaide, top four
Brisbane, top four
Cairns, top six
Hawks , not spoon
United, win GF
NZ, top four
Perth, win GF
Phoenix, not win spoon
Sydney make , GF
Cairns and Phoenix have achieved goals the rest is still to play out. Pressure should be right on United with there millions spent on squad.
Adelaide, top four
Brisbane, top four
Cairns, win more than 6 games this season: pass
Hawks , get Lamelo to number 1 draft position
United, make top 4
NZ, top four
Perth, win GF
Phoenix, not win spoon
Sydney win GF
Zodiac
Years ago
No one expected Adelaide to make the Top 4 this season.
Once Randle was signed expectations became Top 4 contender (which they are likely to be) before that expectations were down near the bottom of the ladder.
"Hawks , get Lamelo to number 1 draft position"
If that occurs, it will have absolutely zero impact on Flinn and his perceived coaching ability.
Poor pass mark for United to make top four with the amount of money spent and two time coach of the year. Winners or bust.
LoveBroker
Years ago
The Pass Mark of Sydney, Melbourne and Perth would be to make the GF.
It is not fair to say Perth must win or that's a failure, if that is the case they must be serial losers having failed 24 years of their 33 year playoff run.
For everyone else their pass mark should be the playoffs, thats what you play for isn't it?
Otherwise you are just there to exist.
Perthworld
Years ago
Wildcats can win the title and still the awkward questions that need to be asked will remain: "Umm Trev can you please put on a looser polo?"
ADELAIDE: Get Froling in shape to back up rookie of the year D-
BRISBANE: Make Cadee less of a flog F
CAIRNS: Doesnt matter already passed with A+.
HAWKS: Stay relevant C
UNITED: Get Trimble to continue his Cairns Taipans form from last year F
BREAKERS: Coaching staff to be more animated C
PERTH: Be irritating to every other supporters and win championship A+
PHOENIX: Showcase Wild Kyle to any NBA scouts sniffing around D-
SYDNEY: Head coach to be more passionate and say what he thinks in regards to Refs A+
hoopie
Years ago
Given that Victoria is considered the strongest and most aware basketball state in the country, any time a Victorian team doesn't make the GF will be considered a fail.
United doesn't need flashy players and glitz and glamour to bring in the fans (like Sydney might) - it just needs solid reliable players who will do what it takes at both ends in order to get there, and who fans will support because of that. A BJ Kennedy rather than a Long, a Ware rather than a Trimble, etc. Flash and glitz and glamour are just the icing on the cake; it's the results and team playing style that matter.
This season, Crivelli (& Vickerman) have given us chocolate-covered turd with sprinkles, so a definite F in my view.
Much as I don't like Perth, I wish United would recruit and play a lot more like them. (Except for the flopping and drama queens and constant bitching at the refs, of course.)
that last part goes without saying since those are the only areas United already matches Perth in
paul
Years ago
I've kept mine pretty straight forward:
Adelaide - top four
Brisbane - top four
Cairns - double-figure wins
Hawks - double-figure wins
United - make GF
NZ - top four
Perth - make GF
Phoenix - double-figure wins
Sydney - make GF
Perthworld's big brother
Years ago
Going on Paul's logic
Adelaide ?
Brisbane ?
Cairns ✓
Illawarra × unlikely to win 5 more.
Melbourne ?
New Zealand ?
Perth ?
Phoenix ✓ if they get one more win.
Sydney?
D2.0
Years ago
I rate Vickerman...
But surely questions must be asked?
Yes they had awkward injuries, and have played some good games. You'd have to credit them with a "series win" against Perth on aggregate.
But not making the top 4???
Hoopie
Years ago
He's smart enough for NBL and is extremely dedicated to his team, but I just don’t think he’s the right guy for this group.
I don't think the group is right for the group.
Considering he put the group together, I'd say that’s not an excuse. If they don’t make GF at a minimum vickerman has failed.
@hoopie: Given that Victoria is considered the strongest and most aware basketball state in the country, any time a Victorian team doesn't make the GF will be considered a fail.
It's the NBL mate, seriously.........!!!
If the discussion was based on AUS juniors or nationals, fair enough, but that chip on your shoulder must be the size of a branch by now if this is your lead into the debate on NBL coaches...
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