Saturday arvo on the piss?

Refs need to be better at calling the game, players (imports and locals) need to be better at knowing the rules and adjusting to calls.

Nice thread.

This thread will go well

So you cant criticize refs, but when players and coaches have shockers they are fair game?

I have watched the NBL for 25 odd years.
Our leagues officials have not grown one iota.

It is beyond a joke. Mistakes and tough calls happen all the time (coin flips)which is fine.

Even very bad mistakes you can allow a few a game.
Check the tape of games and there are so many glaringly easy decisions that are screwed up.
Some even AFTER reviews.

Its hurt my team, and helped my team at diff points in the season, but as a BBALL fan it sure is hard to support in 2020

You just proved my point beautifully!

Yes, the refs are the same as 1995. This is NOT a good thing

It probably won't ever improve as players have mastered the act of acting and accentuating "contact". They get better at it every year. Just retroactively start taking players money for this acting and watch things start to improve.

"So you cant criticize refs, but when players and coaches have shockers they are fair game?"

So, on the principle you're putting forward, refs should be allowed to tell players and coaches how badly they’’re playing and coaching throughout the games, too. That’ll go well.

I prefer that refs do as they do and ignore the mistakes coaches and players make and the abuse they get from hysterical, prejudiced fans. It’d be nice if some coaches and fans could manage as much self discipline.

My guess is OP put $10 on the Sixers, now he is pissed because Centrelink if not for another 2 Thursdays.

You have the benefit of watching replays and picking over their mistakes, they have a spit second to make a call in the heat of the game. Cut them some slack.

I'm a Breakers fan and every game on social media Breakers fan groups I see a casual fan complaining about calls that were blatant fouls like the refs are cheating them out of a win. Most other teams fans are just as bad I’m sure and Sydney even worse lol.

OP needs to adjust his meds.

On a side note, has the jump ball rule changed? When two players grab the ball on opposite teams it used to be something like 3 seconds and then a jump ball was called, now it seems as soon as the same thing happens it's whistled immediately. I feel like the rule must have changed right?

So the refs realised they were wrong for allowing three seconds in the past?

Yeah it was never 3 seconds. That's a long time.
The dickhead refs today are definitely quicker to whistle it than the same dickheads did several years ago, but the dickheads made that adjustment earlier than the start of this season.

There was one the other night - pretty sure it was in the Wildcats game - where someone was holding the ball, the definder basically just tapped it, and they called a held ball. That was bizarre.

Ok maybe not three seconds but they are definitely faster at calling jump balls nowadays.

Probably more like one or two seconds.

Hmm, the reffing last Friday was pretty ordinary.

During that fiasco of a review, listen to their conversation, it was clear that the young guy was completely out of his depth and had no clue what was going on. I'm not sure, but I think he was the one who called the off-the-ball foul, and he couldn't understand how the other ref was allowing a shot, taken so far after, to stand.

Then you had the utterly bizarre call, where Wesley wrapped Jook in a bearhug from behind, but because he then got his hands on the ball, the blatant foul was completely ignore and they called it a jump-ball.

I have umpired a lot of sports, and appreciate that there is often a fraction of a second of whirling action to decipher, but if you don't see something then you don't call it. Simples.

Not having access to replays, is NOT an excuse.
That is a reason for NOT calling something you missed, not guessing and making shit up.

Dickhead refs.
Saltiness on part of the OP.

Maybe it's not just the game and refs in Australia that imports are adjusting too, but new players they're unfamiliar with. They're defending different people with different tendencies.

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed those super quick jump ball calls, players used to have a chance at least for someone to win that ball with their strength.