Anonymous
Years ago
Cooks over Creek?
So with limited games in the NBL, has Cooks shown the "skill set" that Lamanis spoke of that made him pick Xavier over Creek?
Discuss
Anonymous
Years ago
So with limited games in the NBL, has Cooks shown the "skill set" that Lamanis spoke of that made him pick Xavier over Creek?
Discuss
Clearly atm creek is ahead of cooks.
Creek is now, Cooks maybe for the future.
Perthworld's big brother
Years ago
Creek playing like an MVP candidate.
Cooks playing like a guy on a new team who has just recovered from injury.
Creek clearly ahead now but Cooks is 24 so could be same as Creek in a couple of years.
paul
Years ago
Cooks last season, when not coming off injury, averaged 12p and 6r across the German BBL and Eurocup, shooting 55% FG and 40% 3p. He's a better player that what he has shown so far.
Creek couldnt make a 3 pt shot all boomers camp according reports.
Therein lies your answer.....
Creek by the length of the straight, it's on form now not on last season. Cooks three point shooting has been woeful, can hardly hit the ring. He looks more PF than SF. Creek is a gun.
paul
Years ago
"Creek by the length of the straight, it's on form now not on last season."
Isn't the discussion about their selection in July/August for the WC?
koberulz
Years ago
Creek by the length of the straight, it's on form now not on last season.Why would the Boomers team from August be selected based on form now?
Isn't it about the Asia cup qualifying tournament
A A Ron
Years ago
It makes sense to have number 12 and even number 11 as development type roles for players you think will be key pieces 4 years later. Let's face it in meaningful international games even then US cut the rotation down to 8 or 9 anyway.
PyroCross
Years ago
Pretty sure someone said on here that Creek's ego was a primary factor in non-selection - it wasn't just about the basketball.
Cooks it is, not Cook.
Lot great players have egos, doesn't show they should be selected. Creek has been nothing but great for Phoenix, ego or not.
Leighton
Years ago
Was thinking similar watching 36ers vs Kings yesterday.
For sure important to build for the future and selected in National team for development, but even at time of WC Team selection Cooks over Creek didn't make sense. Motum as well surely a more logical selection for WC who could contribute.
Based on NBL form, after Creek and Motum, both D Johnson and B Newly I think should be selected over Cooks if you’re looking for strongest team. And doesn’t seem either were in consideration for WC.
Not against Cooks as a potential future Boomer, but his NBL form raises further questions for me about what happened with WC team selection.
rjd
Years ago
"even at time of WC Team selection Cooks over Creek didn't make sense"
Didn't make sense because people didn't know anything about Cooks? Almost nobody knew about Cooks' game.
Perthworld's big brother
Years ago
A handful of WC selections didn't make sense.
Leighton
Years ago
rjd I feel Cooks (and all players) playing form was available in the public realm and continues to be now. What was so strange to me is that if you base selection on form back then, you don't select a number of players in the original list of 12 over Creek and/or Motum.
Current NBL player form highlights it again as a head scratcher. There seemed to be some hidden WC training camp information that went into it.
Maybe Creek is just a shit bloke and doesn't fit the culture of what the boomers are trying to build as it was rumoured with Jonah Bolden
Given some of the other selections, Cooks was hardly the worst. At least he has 3&D potential, a bit of length on the wing, and capable of sliding between 3 and 4. Creek did well, but his lack of size became apparent as we got deeper into the tournament. And it is not as if his 3pt shooting was anywhere near how good it has looked in 19-20 NBL (otherwise he probably is a step ahead). Cooks as an 11th/12th man isn't a horror selection when we also had Sobey, Gliddon, and Barlow. Could have been something like Exum, Broekhof and Motum (assuming Bolden pulls out) instead.
Duke Fan
Years ago
"Yep. Tats over team for poor Mitchy"
Nail hit on head. The initial (non) selection had zero to do with basketball ability. Probably a good wakeup call for him and when he mended his fences with the powers that be he worked into the rotation
paul
Years ago
I would have thought watching Cooks' length and versatility defensively and his ability on the boards, combined with the fact he was a 40% three-point shooter last season, makes it obvious why he was attractive to the selectors.
Senator11
Years ago
In limited vision of Cooks, he seems to be a more athletic version of Nick Kay, have liked his game so far. Would be good to see what he could do as the number 1 or 2 option, but he's so far back on the Kings pecking order it's tough to see.
Not as good iq as Kay. Early days though but certainly more 4 man and even small ball 5 than 2or 3.
rjd
Years ago
Cooks is 2nd* in the league in per 36 +/-. Although it obviously helps being on a stacked Kings team, usually playing with a second unit led by Bruce, who happens to be 1st in that measure.
(* min 100 minutes played)
As for his selection on the Boomers team, I recall Lemanis citing his versatility, including his wide defensive versatility.
Reality
Years ago
Cooks doesn't even look a threat on offence to the point he doesn't even look at the rim and teams are hiding weak defenders on him.
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