Anonymous
Years ago
Breakers imploding
Tom Vodanovic was met by Police at Auckland airport after being drunk (and assuming disorderly) on the flight back from Perth.
Anonymous
Years ago
Tom Vodanovic was met by Police at Auckland airport after being drunk (and assuming disorderly) on the flight back from Perth.
Senator11
Years ago
Saw this guy taking free throws at the end of the game, noticed he had a gut and was wondering how he was on an NBL roster. Now we know where the gut has come from. #nolongerwarriors
oh how the great and mighty breakers have fallen so bad. 4 out of 5 chips and 5 out of 6 grandies between 2011 and 2016... and now this disaster of a season. The blackwells must be rolling in their post-ownership graves
Is it normal for players to drink to excess on flights? I would have thought a teammate or staffer would've put a stop to it before it got to the point where police would be called. Seems insane
Walsh, wearing his cap will be on radio shortly to discuss with Casey frank.
Vodanovic is a great kid. He's a bit of a joker at times, but this is the team culture dragging down an impressionable rookie. He should have been pulled into line by a senior player or staff. In the same way, someone should have been keeping Rice locked down, focused and disciplined. But I guess all of those guys - the Mika Vukonas and Dillon Bouchers - that set the tone and culture, they're all gone now.
Is it normal for players to drink to excess on flights? I would have thought a teammate or staffer would've put a stop to it before it got to the point where police would be called. Seems insane
Yes its normal, they play hard on and off the caught.
This is nothing.
Just that alot more social media, they get exposed.
If their was camera in the 80s and 90s god help us all.
"the caught"
Seriously?
No, drinking to excess is not normal for a professional athlete. It may have happened in the 80's but that era is not the benchmark for professionalism.
Mystro
Years ago
They were on a red eye flight home from Perth, most of the players and staff were asleep.
Vodanovich took a sleeping pill and had a couple of drinks and it affected him adversely.
He was spoken to by police upon landing and no charges have been laid.
Walsh has said he faces internal punishment from the club but it was out of character so they will be standing by him.
Ohh we check spelling on here, i forgot... yawn
"They were on a red eye flight home from Perth,"
Flight left before 7pm local time, not what I'd call the red eye.
LV
Years ago
If Matt Walsh had been there to provide some strong leadership, this might not have happened
LV
Years ago
Cos Walsh is great at remaining calm and even minded in a crisis.
Zodiac
Years ago
He should have been pulled into line by a senior player or staff.
LV
Years ago
Offer Vukona a development coach role for next season. Leadership is lacking. Abercrombie might be too mild mannered to deal with all of this
MACDUB
Years ago
Walsh fibbing again to make situation look better?
The whole sleeping pill angle sounds ridicolous.
Can someone enlighten me as to whether this is possible e.g have 2 drinks and a sleeping pill and apparently not remember anything and act up (he must have had to act pretty bad for the police to be called)
Sounds like another cover.
This is even worse that it basically happened around staff and players. Talk about unprofessional.
AngusH
Years ago
Sleeping pills and booze can definitely be a bad combo (probably take more than a couple of drinks). It's also an often-used excuse however. Don't know anything about Vodanovic or his history but the timing is atrocious if nothing else.
It's definitely plausible, MACDUB. Just google "sedative alcohol interaction".
Walsh's reputation wouldn't put fabricating this story beyond the realm of possibility, but I'll believe it on face value.
PyroCross
Years ago
The fact he's drinking multiple drinks on a red-eye flight says quite a lot.
We're missing strong, veteran leadership that will keep the team accountable. Abercrombie's mild-mannered but don't know how he'd keep the team accountable (compared to Boucher, Henare, Vukona, CJ).
If Hampton survives the year with all this, there won't be many worse off-court situations in the NBA, surely..
Word starting to surface that his drink may have been spiked. No idea how that could even be plausible.
This starts with the coach he has clearly lost the team
What an embarrassment. Walhs is a twit, wonder what Shawn Marion is thinking?
If he took a valium and then had a few drinks, the effects of the alcohol at that level come on pretty quickly. But there still should be rules in place to stop that happening.
Perthworld
Years ago
Always suspected Walsh would be a bad owner. #spideysense
D2.0
Years ago
Hmmm
Whilst obviously the timing is horrendous, and I'm happy to believe the worst...
I should point out that a (very small) minority of airline staff can be incredibly precious.
I generally get along famously with the cabin crew, and find that as long as you keep smiling things ok. I've had a couple of flights where I was barely able to walk, but never had a problem.
But on one flight (out of several hundred) I got reported for saying "oh for fuck's sake."
Now in their defence, I am a big bloke, and Vodanovich is a giant compared to most, so you can understand why they are anxious to nip any misbehaviour in the bud
D2.0 raises a fair point. Was it Qantas? Maybe it was the same lady that served will.i.am
Some other impertinent questions:
- Why was he taking sleeping pills?
- Should he have been drinking alcohol?
Honestly didn't know who he was until yesterday when i was wondering who the fat bloke on the court with 4 fouls and no points or rebounds at the time was.
MACDUB
Years ago
"They were on a red eye flight home from Perth,"
Flight left before 7pm local time, not what I'd call the red eye."
The flight is literally the most red-eye flight you'll see.
Remembering the time difference, it leaves 6.50pm local time and arrives in NZ at 6am local time. And only 6 hours travel time so not enough for a full night's sleep.
I'm surprised they don't actually stay the night in Perth (go to sleep early, wake up early), get a good sleep, and recovery, and take the morning flight back (no need to acclimatise back to NZT so quick when their next game in Adelaide 6 days later). I guess the red-eye may be cheaper?
koberulz
Years ago
The game was at 7pm New Zealand time, too, so it would make sense to simply not adjust to the new time zone at all.
Perthworld
Years ago
MACDUB they took the only non-stop flight from PER to AKL. There's no morning option.
Hamptons handlers will be having emergency meetings atm. Doubt it would affect his draft standings but in a shit situation.
Would it be possible for his management to go to NBL and say their client has been placed in a damaging position and negotiate a release to another team? Would Adelaide be in a position to make a play for him, need a guard and star power. Have absolutely no idea if it's even possible but it's bad PR for future future stars going to a basket case team.
Have the Breakers stay in Perth overnight? YOU really think you could trust that placing group to stay in the hotel and sleep??
Hampton's team won't be happy with this. Bad look for the Next Stars etc etc
They should have stayed, Rice would have loved it in Northridge
Perthworld
Years ago
What a shame. Rice could have learnt the art of glassing from the locals to add to his repertoire.
Rice was promised a walk on role for the new upcoming Lord of the Rings movie. Is that now out the proverbial window?
Ben
Years ago
You Breakers can have both Lemanis and Vukina back fOr ThE cUlTuRe. I'll even drive them to the airport for yas.
Mystro
Years ago
Hampton has signed on for 2 seasons with NZ, Adelaide have zero chance he plays for them.
If he gets drafted, Breakers get a buyout.
mystro
Years ago
Apparently Vodanavich's cardinal sin was being too loud on the flight whilst people around him slept.
The league should probably stand him down for a couple of games....
Boxed Out
Years ago
Heard he was cut off by flight attendant. Became abusive and then proceeded to continue drinking from drinks he had in his carry on luggage
Breakers are a shitshow.
Long removed from their glory days.
"Apparently Vodanavich's cardinal sin was being too loud on the flight whilst people around him slept."
You sound like you are trying to downplay the incident.
Not saying this incident is major but considering the number of issues the club is having, it puts them and him in the spotlight unnecessarily. Vodanavich is young and doesn't know any better. The problem is that there is obviously nothing in place to improve the team culture, which is currently shithouse.
I agree. Taken in isolation, this would be a minor incident, but with everything else going on around the club it's made it a complete shitstorm
Tom
Years ago
Breakers off court dramas directly follow on court performances. Losing brings out the worst in all aspects of an organisation. Recruitment is vital to success. Bradley is a useful athlete. He has a glaring weaknes defensively when he gets caught in on ball switches. He does not know what to do or he has never been shown what to do. Cotton, Melo, Casper just expose him. Henry tries hard but he shoots so poorly it puts all the pressure on Webster, who has played really well but can't carry all the offence. Hopson is a our best player. He's good but the jury is still out on whether he is a franchise player or not. Abercrombie shoots well but needs someone to set him up. Throw in a point guard still developing his game and management without a philosophy it is a recipe for trouble. Against Perth I thought they bonded together pretty well and stayed in the game longer than most expected. If they can build on this they can at least be a spoiler and pinch some games.
"Vodanavich is young and doesn't know any better"
Lol the guys like 25, i think he knows that you shouldn't get drunk and act like a tool on a plane.
Anyway I would have thought drinking multiple drinks straight after a game on a long flight isn't exactly ideal recovery for a pro athlete and probably something the club would tell them not to do. Not surprised his fat ass had a few drinks though.
Matt Walsh says sorry (eventually): https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport-video/news/video.cfm?c_id=1503077&gal_cid=1503077&gallery_id=214211
I think the helping Glen Rice, rather than discarding him, is surprising (in a good, decent way that one would expect from the Blackwells not Walsh).
Maybe, just maybe, Walsh has learned and the Breakers turn the corner.
An article on stuff.co.nz suggests multiple players were getting drunk on the flight, with Vodanavich being the worst behaved. Kind of blows a hole in the "everyone else was asleep" nonsense.
Out there thought: Breakers to get their shit together and make the final. The the start of an epic run starts this weekend.
"Bradley is a useful athlete. He has a glaring weaknes defensively when he gets caught in on ball switches. He does not know what to do or he has never been shown what to do. Cotton, Melo, Casper just expose him"
Arguably, Cotton and Casper would expose most, if not all, bigs in the league.
Ashley's problem is that he's struggled to find the middle ground between no foul and no defence. If he can learn to play defence without fouling, which has usually been him contesting unnecessarily or reaching stupidly, he is a good player in this league.
There are physios, S&C guy and a team manager and I am sure many other hanger ons. Someone should have stopped it. Hell what was the Coach and AC doing? Were they upgraded and missed it all?
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