"Perceived resolution and picture quality". No, sorry. Whatever the technical reasons are, the picture is shit and was better on Fox Sports. Go back to whatever they were doing with Fox Sports is the takeaway there.

And yes, overall a huge step backwards. They're probably going to have teething issues in figuring everything out and I expected that. But I hope they come to realize the hub is hideous, the picture is terrible, the LIVE AFTER show isn't even a show, and that we want to see action, not faces in a crowd.

Whatever the technical reasons are

Much like the standard of play made it clear at times that it was the first game of the season, the production was a bit the same. I feel like most of the issues will get ironed out with time.

Yeah I think they will but with all the eyes on the NBL at the moment, they almost can't afford to fuck up this badly from hereon.

Nostraballmus foretells that it needs a Nostraballmus segment foretelling the results

Yeah I think they will but with all the eyes on the NBL at the moment, they almost can't afford to fuck up this badly from hereon.

I did think the graphics used were much better. Otherwise yeah some minor issues that really need to be ironed out quick smart.

Would like to continue the studio to some degree, but have commentary on the ground. Would ideally like it to be 1 around the ground, 2 commentary and then 2 back in the studio. The studio team would cover pre-game, half-time and post-game as well as between double headers etc.

Sheesh, some people just love complaining!! I thought the scorecard graphics were far better than the 80's video game types in previous years. Some of the production stuff could be improved and I'm sure it will be. Overall not the worst but not the best either. Some will just never be happy regardless of the standards provided

and they love complaining, it's inherit in most unfortunately. I love the fact that all games will be able to be viewed live and that the league is trying new stuff with the telecast. I can't see the studio commentary lasting but I imagine that would also be a budgetary thing when games out of state are starting to be played. They'll find the balance soon hopefully

I thought the scorecard graphics were far better than the 80's video game types in previous years.

I imagine that would also be a budgetary thing when games out of state are starting to be played.

Koberulz did you like anything from last nights game? A lot of people on here are hard to please.

"Pretty sure 80s video games weren't capable of anything near previous NBL
graphics packages"

I was just referencing the scoreboard on the bottom of the screen and not the whole graphics package. Hence me saying "the scorecard graphics".

"Except that they have to have in-venue commentary teams anyway. So where's the saving?"

Flights. Equipment transport. Expenses for more staff being away from home etc

I was just referencing the scoreboard on the bottom of the screen and not the whole graphics package. Hence me saying "the scorecard graphics".

Why did Corey interview John White for his first in game cross? Missed a chance to ask about his coaching stint in England. And nice of Corey to lean over Brad Pineau (whose son was playing and doing a decent job) just to get to Dave Simmons (whose son wasn't playing).

On a more positive note it was the first basketball game involving Boomers or NBL in six months with no Shane Heal in commentary. Amazingly refreshing.

Untrue, there was the Canada game at the World Cup.

How did I forget that infamous call? We had to endure that homer Canada commentator though which was kind of like a direct replacement for Heal.

"80s video games weren't really known for HD detail or gradients, so I'm not sure what similarities you see."

It was an analogy.... Not the brightest hey?

"80s video games weren't really known for HD detail or gradients, so I'm not sure what similarities you see."

It was an analogy.... Not the brightest hey?

I didn't realise these were "ESPN" graphics, where else does ESPN use those graphics?

I liked the graphics.

In another thread I pointed out the score changing before the shot sillyness. No clue what they're doing there. The studio/no commentary on the ground thing just doesn't provide a polished coverage with that genuine atmospheric feel.

I liked the Sports Center special, just didn't like it being the "pre-game", and didn't care that it took a few minutes to figure out to remove the ticker.

Scoreboard updating before the shot is released was very irritating, so i hope they can fix that. Hopefully we get Shane Heal back in commentary tonight.

"It's an analogy that doesn't make any sense to me."
- Further validating the second part of my comment.

"What aspect of the previous graphics made it seem similar to an 80s video game?"
- The general dated and not modern look of it. Like I said, an analogy. I really think an improvement was made in this area, kudos to them for that.

You're either very dumb or purposefully naive. I'm trying to figure out which one.

In regards to the Anon that suggest improvement doesn't happen with feedback. I agree with the sentiment but I'm not sure the NBL will be scrolling through hoops.com.au searching for feedback on improving the telecast. I also doubt that the OP was trying to provide feedback to the NBL, rather they were having a good old whinge. I for one liked the telecast and am looking forward to it improving throughout the season to do justice to the talent on the court. Rome wasn't built in a day.

The general dated and not modern look of it.

33,000 watched the NBL on ESPN last night.

What's the standard for subscription TV for NBL? 18-38k?

Seb Costello and Homicide with the call tonight. It keeps getting worse.

Wow just wow. *vomit*

"33,000 watched the NBL on ESPN last night.

What's the standard for subscription TV for NBL? 18-38k?"

Hmm, usually 38K towards playoffs so 33,000 is fantastic numbers for game 1. Plus you have 10,000 who watched on Facebook.

Too bad the picture quality is absolute ass, commentating is garbage, and the whole production is disjointed hogwash though. They'd wanna turn it around quick.

Seb Costello is embarrassingly out of his depth! limited knowledge and to busy trying to "entertain" us by baiting Corey = Lame.

Corey is OK at the comments during the break as his only benefit to the viewer is his over the top observations.

Either way the loser is the viewer!!

LK has to be watching and thinking WTF

"LK has to be watching and thinking WTF"

Well, I'd hope so. They have some changes to make, and fast. The picture quality and commentary just won't do.

Picture quality seems fine to me.

This commentary combo... not so much

Seb thanking all the NBL sponsors during the game!! What a joke imagine watching A League "Thanks to Hyundai and Masterfoods".. I realize sponsors are massively important for the league but surely ads during the break and placement of logos on Jerseys and side screens are enough.

Seb thanking all the NBL sponsors during the game!! What a joke imagine watching A League "Thanks to Hyundai and Masterfoods".. I realize sponsors are massively important for the league but surely ads during the break and placement of logos on Jerseys and side screens are enough.

Picture quality on ESPN looks super dull and like a photo that's been left to dry out in the sun to the point it's faded out. SBS coverage had the opposite problem, too saturated. Neither had particularly high definition, and if you have a HD or UHD TV, you REALLY notice.

Broadcast from the booth is fucking bullshit. Production is ugly. Cairns gone back to the ugly rings for some reason. Right when the NBL needed to look professional they're looking amatuer as hell.

The game was a bit lacklustre as well.

I dunno. NBL seem to be going out of their way to lose my interest. This is 2 huge steps back from Fox Sports and NBL 18/19

Picture quality seems fine to me.

Picture quality on ESPN looks super dull and like a photo that's been left to dry out in the sun to the point it's faded out.

I regret changing the channel over to the Rugby World Cup a moment ago as it's in 4K with real commentary. NBL production in contrast is viral (as in AIDS not social media views).

Last nights stream on NBL TV was pretty much perfect tonight's stream was choppy, stuttering and basically unwatchable.

Yep I think I've done my five bucks ;)

"I see why you have a new nick or what ever YOUDONTHAVEACLUE !!!"

Great work: I see what you did!

"don't have espn, watched on sbs on demand. can't understand what the complaining's about. picture was great plus no endless loop of worst ever/hungry jacks/mg ads. Happy days, all games live and free."

Are you watching with Chromecast or something? Looks ass on my computer as it is.

During the Phoenix @ United Game, where Creek hit the 3 late in the last quarter, the shot clock was showing 0for a good second or two BEFORE he shot and the scores were changing before the shot went down.

Seb Costello reminds me way too much of James Brayshaw with how he commentates and I think he can go wait until next season for another go.

I like the graphics but they need to be more in time with the play (we got a working shot clock as far back as I remember and I've been watching since 1992).

I'm not too deterred by the happenings but I'm not as excited as I feel I should be about the NBL right now.

Picture still garbage.

Knowing that the commentators are sitting in a studio really dulls the experience because commentators act in part as viewer's vicarious connection to the game. Having said that, if they didn't announce it and didn't show them sitting in a studio, I probably wouldn't have even thought about it.

I can understand the cost-cutting aspect, but if commentators are always in the same studio, I would've expected the commentary team could be reduced to only the best quality commentators.

"I can understand the cost-cutting aspect, but if commentators are always in the same studio, I would've expected the commentary team could be reduced to only the best quality commentators."

This.

"33,000 watched the NBL on ESPN last night. What's the standard for subscription TV for NBL? 18-38k?"

The average has generally been in the 10-15K mark on Fox, however the first game of the season has often been one of the highest-rating games for the NBL.

"^^^^
Maybe you had better get yourself a new tv."

I have a $3,000 Ultra HD TV bought this year. TV isn't the problem.

SBS On Demand carries three streams: 224p, 360p and 720p. I've never seen the mini-games look at all decent though, so I'm not sure what the story is there. Adelaide/Utah looked fine watching live this morning.

The SBSVicelandHD coverage doesn't appear to me to HD either, they don’t have the HD on their logo for it either but do for other programmes.

NBL are obviously trying things but they’re not achieving core aspects of enhancing entertainment or looking polished

If the Perth v Melbourne game wasn't in HD it was the purest SD I've seen in my life by a long way!

Hawks v Brisbane

Some upscaling issues with ESPN and now everybody is becomimg paranoid on whether their HD really is HD. Classic.

I wish they would show more stats, in the Wildcats/United game I could not tell how many fouls Long had - the website was so hard to use on my phone to find out as well. For the second quarter they forgot to show the team fouls at all. Other stats in general would be much better.

There's so little emotion in the commentary, the play by play guy should be reflecting the energy in the arena and build up tension then get excited when theres a comeback or something dramatic happens.