Steven
Years ago
Line for Boomers at +14.5.
Do we have anyone other than Mills and Goulding that can light it up.
Let's hope we get a bit more out of our nba players, certainly scoring wise. Hope it’s a great game and not to manny complaining about the event. US by 22.
koberulz
Years ago
Mills, Ingles and Landale all look like they're sitting this one out.
Perthworld
Years ago
12 noon in Perth - how outrageous! - who will go to the home opens?
joshuapending
Years ago
Do these front seats look more elevated or is it just me?
https://www.fibalivestats.com/u/AUSO/1313245/bs.html
So we've got the NBL refs reffing this game, can't wait for some flop warnings.
rjd
Years ago
Thanks anon. Ingles has been cold with his shooting during this campaign, but he has been great in pick-n-roll situations. 5 assists in the 1st quarter. I'd like to see more Ingles-Baynes picks.
Perthworld
Years ago
Why play Sweet Caroline at a basketball game? Weird.
FSTOS
Years ago
But nbl players are shit.... Lemanis is shit.... How can this be.
Feels like there is a bit more passion from the boomers in this one that the other games have lacked
FSTOS
Years ago
Boomers running some more sets and mixing D up quite a bit more. Entertaining.
rjd
Years ago
Good first half D by Australia, getting some good looks inside, but let down by shooting just 2/14 from 3s.
rjd
Years ago
Although USA still have 49 points in the half. Need that defense to be more consistent.
Perthworld
Years ago
Was that 'NSW' embroided on Goulding's jacket while he was pimping out Melbourne in that tourism with Gaze? Gold.
We don't have the stamina for more than 3/4s it seems.
FSTOS
Years ago
Big question here is whether Plumlee is worse than an nbl player.
rjd
Years ago
Ingles looks better when he gets into the kind of action that he is familiar with in Utah.
Perthworld
Years ago
#931 makes sense but still hilarious wearing that while fapping over VIC.
Scout
Years ago
who are australia's ast coaches (besides d patrick)
If Bogut is this much of a problem for the US, Jokic will be a nightmare.
Perthworld
Years ago
The standard clean-block-is-a-foul from the NBL ref. Not complaining though.
Scout
Years ago
who are australia's ast coaches (besides d patrick)?
Splinky
Years ago
Will Weaver and Adam Caporn plus Luc Longley as Asst coaches.
Nerves out of the way for Kay and he looks much better. Plays his best games in gold instead of green.
MACDUB
Years ago
I wouldn't be surprised if USA didn’t win gold.
Some of those European teams would be licking their lips for sure.
This is not an intimidating USA team at all.
Perthworld
Years ago
Never mind we're up on the US with one quarter to go WHO ARE THE ASSISTANTS?!??
FSTOS
Years ago
All the... Insert any young player not in the nbl... should by in the team regulars are quiet. Not saying Boomers will win but so many underestimate both the nbl and how well we do on an international stage. Clearly Lemanis has been building stuff as we get deeper in our prep.
Yes I did. I feel sheepish about it. Boomers hanging in there.
Perthworld
Years ago
Yeah I looked at the crowd and there are a lot of sheep there but as long as it's revenue for basketball.
How does Aylen get to ref these games. Just an overweight plodder.
Perthworld
Years ago
LOL a banked Mills three. Hey, whatever it takes.
The massive what if Bogut never broke his arm - such a high BBall IQ
Perthworld
Years ago
He's out of control and overtaken the commentary completely.
rjd
Years ago
Mills was clutch. So good to see Mills play like that.
What an effort by the Boomers. Awesome game to watch. Obviously the hero of the game was Kay's +18 +/-.
I love the Boomers so much. What a group, what a win. Let's get that medal.
Perthworld
Years ago
As a young man growing up I dreamed of being able to watch a national game between Australia and America. Tonight my dream became a reality, luckily I guessed that the superstars wouldn't come out so I didn't go to the event live. But even watching it on tv, I didn't change the channel repeatedly to see what else was on and go on Facebook etc because the performance churned out tonight was unbelievable. Most of the above joy I totally agree with, a gem of a selected team with way more excitement as a div 3 under 14 game. I'm grateful I paid for the electricity to watch even a part of it let alone going to it live. Can even use the excuse of flooding youngsters to prepare for Olympics.
Yessss !!!!!
Nick Kay +18 played the 4th most minutes.
Landale -16
Luuuc
Years ago
Sack Lemanis!
Hell yes. There's still time. The team haven't boarded the plane yet. Get that useless loser away from this team!!
Really hope they play with the same passion in the World Cup. Not a bad player out there
Meanwhile Basketball Australia are only on social media talking about a junior 3x3 regional tournament.
Actually, in a way, I hope they dial it back a little. I recon they could have been called for about ten techs for remonstrating.
Perthworld
Years ago
Awesome promotion for the upcoming NBL season on SBS Viceland. The ultimate lead-in.
Great game, well played but ...... it's just a practice game
Andrew
Years ago
This is what happens when you play proven winners like Kay. It's the little things what win games. The NBL ain't no cupcake league.
Dave
Years ago
The home refereeing was a bit biased to be honest.
And lemanis should still be sacked.
All the losers on here saying Bogut was spud, didn't deserve mvp, suck shit. Great work boomers, Lemanis plus the nbl guys and of course the nba champs.
Onwards and upwards.
Dave
Years ago
"proven winners like kay "
you got to be kidding, Andrew
Dave
Years ago
boomers won because of nba guys like Mills, ingles, Bogut, the nbl guys are passengers and offer nothing to this team
Kay was pretty good in his minutes, game high +/- of 18 too
this isn't the first loss in 13 years for the USA.
They lost to Argentina last year (with a mostly G-league team) but its still a Team USA loss
I think it was their first loss in 13 years with NBA talent on the floor, they've lost a few in that time with random guys from the G league and overseas leagues playing
Zodiac
Years ago
First loss in 13 years with NBA players and it was Australia who did it!
Zodiac
Years ago
Their last loss with NBA players was at the 2006 World Champs.
I was at the game. It was awesome. Crowd was going nuts at the end. So much fun
Perthworld
Years ago
People who went but only on Thursday are crushed right now.
I went on Thursday and was happy to be home watching today. What an outcome!!
Mervan
Years ago
Omg
Was screaming at the tv to get kay off late and again when creek checked in
But but
Wowwowowowowwowowowo
No more complaining about seats in the media
Just all how we WON
Jingles in pick and roll and playing point forward from now on
Omg so proud of those boys.
I don't care it was USA light and Australia B+
Seriously people don't take away from one of the greatest victories in Australian basketball ever (men)
Perthworld
Years ago
Thank you LK. This doesn't happen without him and his team.
Thunder Jam
Years ago
Calm down our VERY best fluked a win over their C graders.
rjd
Years ago
Before Rio Bogut's health was suspect. It was when he came into the team that the Boomers form really lifted. It looks like Bogut can be just as influential on this team. He might be 3 years older, but he looks just as fit and athletic as in Rio and high IQ doesn't disappear. He might even be more potent as a scorer.
rjd
Years ago
It is only a win in a practice game, but the best part is that we looked much closer to our Rio form. The offense was running well and there were patches of some serious D. It is also important to get guys like Mills and Ingles into some form. Now we need Delly to step up. He was great in Rio.
Mervan
Years ago
After this game I think bogut above baynes.
I like baynes game but bogut has the edge in iq and passing.
Mind you both of them on the floor would be good against taller line ups
"Calm down our VERY best "
Calm down yourself salt boy it was far from our VERY best
Steven
Years ago
Great job fellas.
Many will point out who is missing on both sides but it was a great game.
Still history making result.
Zodiac
Years ago
https://www.espn.com.au/olympics/basketball/story/_/id/27450965/australia-stuns-team-usa-snaps-78-game-streak
Perthworld
Years ago
Do we earn any points towards the FIBA World Rankings list for this win?
last time I checked this wasn't a FIBA tournament so no
rjd
Years ago
I'm still worried about opposition stretch 4/5s. This time it was Barnes. Canada has the shooters to burn us too.
Libertine
Years ago
We've beaten them in an exhibition. Monkey off back.
Now let's do it in the real thing and take home a medal in China.
You can only play whoever is in front of you.
Aylen officially added to the Boomers coaching staff.
KET
Years ago
Is this available on SBSondemand?
Went to the game - wasn't on the floor so can’t speak to that or the extortionate concert prices.
In the stands at the back had no issue, loved the game and the setup. IMO people were over reacting last game and because of the result this time around that negative feeling shifted completely.
I’d have like to have seen some more crowd involvement such as you’d see in the NBL by the announcer, and intro music being like thunderstruck, tnt, joker and the thief etc
Just another poster
Years ago
So that was pretty great. Good on Nick Kay, could've gone into his shell instead played really well. Loved the reaction from the guys afterwards, acted like they’d been there, know they still have all the work ahead of them.
rjd
Years ago
"Is this available on SBSondemand?"
Not sure, but twitch.tv/nba has both games available to stream at 720p.
Questions following the series:
1. Does the game 2 win negate the negative press regarding seating when it comes to promotion of Australian basketball?
2. Is it more damaging to Bolden's brand to not play? I.e if he played in the win that would have been great exposure
3. Realistically what are the boomers chances in World Cup. The bookies do not rate them.
I still don't know about our chances of winning it all this year. I feel like Serbia is far stronger than this USA team tbh. Their guys lost a couple of short games against the G-League select team just a few days ago by huge margins. I’m more concerned about medaling if anything, but we can’t look past Canada or Lithuania.
Hoopie
Years ago
I cannot see Plumlee going to the WC unless he's deliberately included to give other big guys a chance to get their +/- up. Woeful.
koberulz
Years ago
I'd have like to have seen some more crowd involvement such as you’d see in the NBL by the announcerThat's literally against the rules.
1. Does the game 2 win negate the negative press regarding seating when it comes to promotion of Australian basketball?There's a Channel 7 news story being shared on Twitter, which can be summed up as "there was a thing on at Marvel Stadium today, we interviewed some people about how shit their seats were. Here are those interviews. BTW we beat the US. Here are some more interviews about the shitty seats." So no.
KET
Years ago
How does that change my opinion of what I would like to have seen Koberulz?
Why did you choose to be a stickler about that particular rule? I'd have thought going back in time to redo the past breaches some sort of rules of physics.
Thanks for your contribution, one day you’ll learn the concept of a forum and opinions
koberulz
Years ago
How does that change my opinion of what I would like to have seen Koberulz?It doesn't, it simply explains why it wasn't done.
Haha I saw the 7 news story. Does 7 just hate basketball or something? It was literally a video that collected photos of people taking low angle pictures of the court, a rehash that ACCC is investigating, interviews with people they had collected that did not enjoy it and then a mention that AUS won.
Haz
Years ago
^ yes, channel 7 hates every sport that competes with AFL. All channels have their own agenda* for showing what they want and in what light, but 7 seem to be notoriously bad for highlighting the negatives in all sports, including basketball.
*their own agenda being if that channel covers that sport. As basketball is not on 7 and hasn't been for over 20 years, then it couldn't care less about the gane and will highlight any negatives over the positives, while protecting the AFL as much as possible (Marvel is owned by the AFL, but 7 won't mention that in the critisism)
Isaac
Years ago
The Guardian usually seems to have an issue with basketball also. There's zero coverage until something related to Cambage flares up, or until the Filipino brawl, or these seat complaints. They have however put up a story about the history-making win at least.
Here's the article if you think pageviews might motivate them to cover basketball more.
Jackson
Years ago
biggest win in Australian Sports history in front of the biggest crowd in Australian Sports history And some people want to sack the coach. Brilliant.
Winning a warm up game is the best win in the countries history. Imagine if we won a game that mattered.
Yes the guardian is a very fine read most days but it's always pissed me off re lack of basketball, it was a positive piece which was also good.
Jackson
Years ago
if you don't think that game mattered, what's the saying, it's not my fault you're stupid.
Glorified scrimmage against a C grade squad and we won by 4. Best win ever!
Jackson
Years ago
If you were at the game yesterday you know how much this mattered. It certainly mattered to everybody in the stands who spent the whole game standing on their feet screaming. Even if they had to watch it on the Jumbotron and paid too much money for not being able to see. It mattered to every newspaper in America who had it on their front page. and in Australia. It mattered to every team in the World Cup who now knows that the u.s. is not invincible. Basketball is a game of confidence. Now we've got some and they don't. So what you're saying is it mattered when they lost to Canada in the first game against the United States so much everybody wanted the coaches and the team fired. But now that they won, and beat the best team in the coming tournament. It doesn't matter.
Perthworld
Years ago
Agreed re: 7. Horrible network.
How have the rest of the fake news mainstream media covered it?
So our best win ever gets us... a warm fuzzy feeling inside. Not tournament points or anything.
And I reckon most teams would have known they were beatable before the Boomers played out of their skin to win by 4. They'd all have a copy of their roster by now.
All you people complaining it's a shit win go back to your D grade competition, bunch losers the lot you. GREAT result.
Nostraballmus
Years ago
Great result
We showed everyone this US team can be beaten; Serbia, Greece, Spain, France will be feeling good about their chances for gold.
You heard it hear first, this US team won't medal. I've told ya the top 4 too.
BVL
Years ago
The key was Ingles handling the ball more. When he runs point forward they get into their sets earlier and he is much more damaging than Delly on the pic and ball.
I like subbing Goulding in for Delly here too if shooting is required.
Finally getting that ball movement from Rio that Gaze and Heal where talking about from the Canada game!
Ben
Years ago
@ KET
Game is on SBSonDemand.
Agree with starting intro for the Boomers. Music for USA was fine, but terribly underwhelming for the Aussies when some solid pump up music would've got the crowd going. Came across poorly on the broadcast also.
As someone else has already mentioned, very little that can be done re announcers etc soliciting crowd involvement in-game. Just the way it is, especially with USAB pretty much being an event 'partner’.
Personally thought promoters were way off the mark with pre-game entertainment inside. No hype whatsoever. The gender neutral DJ was ridiculously out of place, if I wanted to listed to shitty loud mash-ups I’d turn on Hit Network radio on a Friday afternoon.
Floss Cam, ugh. Sweet Caroline singalong, double ugh. Amateur hour.
At least we won.
@BEN have to agree with you on the entertainment in the stadium. No real crowd involvement and no real hype. And that DJ was absolutely horrendous. She was not what the crowd needed.
Ben you must have gone Thursday? The crowd was into it Saturday. Very different crowds each day.
Ben
Years ago
Went to both games.
Didn't think there was any difference with the crowds at all. The only thing that changed was the crowd getting in to the game on Saturday in the fourth quarter when it was apparent the Boomers were a chance.
ME
Years ago
Some people's reactions to this win have been ridiculous and puzzling. Okay, this is not the dream team. Everyone agrees. But what they are is the gold medal favorites heading into the world cup, and the most talented team at the cup by a wide margin. So if you can't accept it as a true win against Team USA, accept it as a win against the gold medal favorites, which is an achievement no matter how you slice it, and bodes well for our world cup campaign. It is also the first time we've beaten Team USA, regardless of its line up, since the times when we were stocked with NBL guys and they were playing college kids. However you cut it, we created history and ended a 66 year streak. It also looks pretty good in front of a crowd of 55'000 who probably never anticipated that a win was actually possible. Maybe people should stop being a bunch of bitter and hateful cunts and see all the positives that come from this win.
Is it our biggest win ever? Well, has any other win had the kind of media significance this has? I'd argue it is our biggest win ever in terms of public interest and exposure. Let's face it, the Boomers don't have a great history of winning those big, important games. And if we had won a medal it would easily trump this game. But in lieu of anything more impressive or any bigger statement, this is probably our biggest win ever, yes.
"Calm down our VERY best fluked a win over their C graders."
Are you some kind of moron?
Ben Simmons? Dante Exum? Jonah Bolden? Thon Maker? Ryan Broekhoff? Any of these names ring a bell?
You could make an NBA starting 5 out of the Boomers we're missing.
Starting 5? Go back to bed dude you're still dreaming.
Greggo
Years ago
Lemanis doesn't lack confidence either does he. I admit myself if that I was coaching I'd be too scared of the backlash of making moves like he did, but he stuck to his guns, and it paid off... Pulling off Landale/ Baynes down the stretch and then going ultra small for the last possession. Bold.
Reality
Years ago
@ME
Bolden & Maker aren't in our best 10 guys once Exum/Simmons come back so the don't make the roster as it is currently constructed.
Bolden & Maker play a similar position and with Simmons in that pushes them further away from a roster spot as Landale has clearly proved he is a better player than both at the FIBA game as his skill set is perfect for FIBA baskertball.
Broekoff most likely makes it ahead of creek or Gliddon but Maker/Bolden don't make the ten make roster.
Hoopie
Years ago
Good point. If that doesn't make them work harder to gain their spot (or regain their credibility, in the case of Bolden) ...
Wow, imagine our depth if we can afford to leave guys like Cooks, Bolden, T Maker, ... out
ME
Years ago
"@ME
Bolden & Maker aren't in our best 10 guys once Exum/Simmons come back so the don't make the roster as it is currently constructed.
Bolden & Maker play a similar position and with Simmons in that pushes them further away from a roster spot as Landale has clearly proved he is a better player than both at the FIBA game as his skill set is perfect for FIBA baskertball.
Broekoff most likely makes it ahead of creek or Gliddon but Maker/Bolden don't make the ten make roster."
Okay. The point I am making is this team is not our "Very best" possible team. Ben Simmons alone could potentially make the team substantially more dangerous. I think it's unfair for people to say the US didn't have their best team yet to ignore who we are also missing.
Greggo
Years ago
Broekhoff will be straight into the team. I imagine Bolden and Maker are still in our best 12.
It's amazing we have that level of competition for the squad.
Simmons, Delly, Exum
Mills, Goulding
Ingles, Broekhoff
Baynes, Bolden
Landale, Bogut, Maker
A squad like that seems right for me if injury/ egos allow it.
As the above said, when you start leaving out some pretty high calibre players
Reality
Years ago
@Greggo
Landale has been playing the 4 spot beside Bogut/Baynes at the 5.
Maker & Bolden are both 4's in FIBA basketball as neither can guard the 5 spot as they simply don't have the frames/size to do it.
Cooks/Adel might be the ones who push for the spot behind landale at the 4 spot but can;t see anyway to fit them all into the team as we'd have to many of the same guy/position
Greggo
Years ago
Swap Landale and Baynes in my chart if you wish.
Maker is definitely a 5 in FIBA.
anyone who was there know why Lopez was getting so much love form the crowd?
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