2019 Finals

Quarter Finals:

Spewing I can't make it to the HBF Arena for game 1 on Saturday.
As a consolation I may be able to get to the Perthworld vs Anon fight in the carpark afterwards ;)

Enjoy watching SBL games with my grand kids. Been on this forum quite a few times over the past few months. But disgusted of late with the rubbish on here. So thinking why bother to come back on here. Lot of posters need to have a good hard look at what they are saying - great promotion of a great family sport - NOT !!!!!!

wasnt me ... I agree with Grandpa.
this is a sport funded by junior basketball and trash like perthworld (imposter or not) has no place around my children!

Your children are the problem with the world. Instagram druggy self centered creatures.

And with a lame douche of a father sheltering them from the real world. Your kids are going to turn out a mess with or without Perthworld

Whatever it cost was bad value for money. They were hopelessly outclassed by the Hawks. Their offense has that familiar rushed shot style, three point reliance and ineffective on ball screens. They beat the Hawks twice during the season but will be lucky to avoid total embarrassment next weekend.

Cheers Jenny

hmmm

Is Braun done?

Suggest he suits Sat, as they attempt to throw everything at Pack under the Ray Owen roof.

whatever the outcome Utley has to be CoY

Timms done - big loss

Exactly not sure what all the wraps are about Hutley he will get swept in the qtr finals as he has with previous teams. Not exactly COY

Utley is a weird c**t all he does is play golden child and talk about how horny he is

For him to go home at this stage it's either family issues back home or he's royally screwed up and the Buccs have terminated him

Isby Waived not Waved

Great breakdown anonymous
Great imports but doesn't make Hutley COY

Suns could of easily won 16-17 games this year really started to click after Timms injury. Gero went from being one of the favorites to not contending over night which is tough for them. Lakeside a dark horse to win this thing as many teams don't match up with them very well.

According to Pike "rarely do you see such an unhappy disinterested player in a winning team. They wont even miss him"

As per the Redbacks Facebook page, Lackovic advises club he will not be back in 2020. Dwindling domestic numbers, no big name talent coming through their 18s or 16s recently aside from Bowen, should Perth and East Perth look at a merger?

Flames Men choke yet again. Seems to be a huge problem with that men's program down there year after year. Doesn't matter who the coach is, the culture has to change down there if they ever want to be serious contenders.

Nix is safe for at least another year. Has a very young group but will be vying for a top 4 spot again next season. Poor form by D Black running an offense with 18 seconds left in game up by 30+. Show some sportsmanship doccy for heavens sake. Senators need to be taken seriously on the Women's side. Do they have the depth though to challenge the Lightning

Greg Hire rolled his ankle and sat out the better part of the final quarter. It was a damn close game right down to the final seconds.

167.
Hawks took possession with 35 sec left, not 18. That is outside the shot clock and you have to play it. It was Wolves who took possession with 18 sec left.

Wolves-Hawks semi.

Why was isby sent home? He was gero's best player

I love hearing wolves fans bitch about anything other than their team lost because they simply weren't good enough.
Stay tuned for more excuses in the next 2 weeks.
Go the hawks

Doccy didn't tell them to run offence with 18 sec left. Wolves had the ball in the last 18 sec. You can’t run offence without the ball. How embarrassing for you that you are wrong.

Funny how the wolves are happy to call out others on their unsportsmanlike behaviours and then 24hrs later have their mens program doing the same thing with Ettridge calling a timeout with 30 seconds to go up 30 to an undermanned suns team..

Can't wait for the Big Parsnip and his Horkies to send the Wolves home with their tails between their legs in the semis.

It's a shame though I would've liked to see history repeat and them choke another grandfinal.

Ettridge calling a timeout with 30 seconds to go up 30 to an undermanned suns team..

so who loses their jobs if women have gone in quarters and men go in semis.
with the money spent on those programs that can only be seen as a fail.
surely we need to see some #greenblood spilled.

Wolves women appeared to clear the rot out of the joint end of last year.
Injury curse struck this year, not flash, but cultural disease was fixed.

Not sure investment, but sources say leadership suggest money well spent to see a few walk the plank end 2018

What a waste of $60K from the sound of things.

The money could have been used to bolster the men's squad.

Wolves vs Hawks is going to be a ripper series.
Anyone know why Trian Iliadis didn't play last week?
He wasn't even at the game. Is he playing this week?

You must be a miserable old SOB to be calling kids teams pathetic. Take your negativity somewhere else or if you are one of the kids who obviously lost, then get back in the driveway and work on your game. Dad's name might have got you in the team but only hard work and getting on the daily grind will make you a winner pal.

2019 SBL Shaqtin A Fool Awards
1. Ref who needs to be told to hang up the whistle: P Throns / M Hughes (Draw)
2. Underskilled Journeyman who will shock others with another SBL gig in 2020: C Easley
3. Club with dodgiest attendance figures in 2019: Rockingham
4. Womens coach under the most pressure already in 2020: Nix
5. Surprise Mens coaching appointment nobody will see coming: Craig Jackson to Perth! (You heard it here first people)
6. Mens semi finals team most likely to miss finals in 2020: Lakeside

Cougars big movers in 2020.

Thwaites been given clear mandate to set new tone with incoming coaches.

Both set to be inbound from 2019 finals programs.

One may reasonably ponder where to from here for the Redbacks?

Perhaps the season's most underperformed club, across both programs, particularly given recent finals success +, and a lack of junior volume alongside the poor club order and cohesion means that the better days are some way off in the distance.

Maybe a cautionary tale of picking the battles you can win, rather than those that you simply desire to fight

Technically if you include their long period at Loftus they have had three stadiums but none have ever been big enough to call a home and they have never settled somewhere long enough for a council to fully support them. I can see a merge with them and the Eagles soon unless something dramatically changes as neither can survive much longer based on very limited development and dwindling finances / members

Redbacks and Eagles are in a similar situation regarding a stadium. Should meet in the middle and have a team named Highgate. They could pressure BWA to share Bendat or lobby the Perth City Council (who appear very lobbyable if you've got some folding) to build something that would accommodate a big club and represent the City of Perth.
I remember BWA's big push to have Stirling and Eagles amalgamate, but it had little traction. Hard pill to swallow for long term club supporters, but it worked in the AFL where the history and tradition are far stronger.
It would certainly strengthen the competition, and that's a thought BWA should embrace.

It could work. Equal access and opportunity for both clubs to source courts away from Bendat for training and junior comps. Lords, Loftus come to mind. City of Cambridge might cough up - they have had a free kick when it comes to recreational facilities with all the Govt funded facilities in the leafy areas.

Can't see the Hawks allowing anyone into their zone at Lords to run a domestic comp. Loftus is just far away that it doesn't worry them but given Lords is on the same stretch of road, nope ain't gonna happen.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing and in retrospect, the Redbacks should have investigated the Lathlain Park option years ago when they had the chance to almagamate with the Demons and create Perth Sports Club on the old car park. Right on the train line, still in their heartland and they could have easily has a six court stadium with plenty of room for shared offices and parking to boot. The only other option is to head back to Curtin and hope they consider adding a showvourt onto their existing facility to make it a four court complex and add some permanent offices from there. Both Vic Park and Herb Graham are nothing more than band aids who's best years are, like the clubs that play out of them, well and truly in the past and it seems only a matter of time before those clubs fold if the stadiums themselves dont collapse on them first

No former Cougar people will be doing either job.

Not sure why Thwaites cops it here? Place would be dead without him.

Thanks Tyrone

Redhage won Perth the Championship, let's not make any other inclinations about that one please! Spent a decent amount of money on both mens and womens programs this year for absolutely zero return. Now Nik has seen the writing on the wall that the bank is all but shut and thought, cool now it's time to be a family man and all the best to him with that. But in terms of CLUB, here are the alarming figures. You have 74 junior domestic teams spread across three suburbs and a large footprint of the inner city in Vic Park, Belmont & Leederville. Given none of these areas are threatened by other WABL clubs, that teams figure should easily be in the triple figures but its not. You have an under 16 and 18 combined girls domestic division with only FIVE teams - 5. How is that supposed to encourage and develop into strong WABL players. No sign of an under 14 girls competition at either centre either. And then there was the classic double booking of stadiums on Sunday forcing visiting wabl teams to have to drive to belmont to play because your full time staff couldn't do their job and book all the courts at Vic Park. My son's team arrived at Vic Park at 8:30am for a 9:00am game only to be told it would now be at belmont at 8:30am. I thought that was bad but then found out there was a poor Rockingham team who really drew the short straw and were playing before us at 7:30am, which meant coming from so far away you would imagine they got to vic park at 7:00am to be told sorry, you have to drive 20 mins east of here. Your lack of on court success as a club at the moment is only overshadowed by the trump like boisterisms that all is fine and well off the court when it really couldn't be further from the truth. Do what is best for the club and start to have those conversations with East Perth or you will end up like the swan city mustangs: non existent within the next few years.

My son's team arrived at Vic Park at 8:30am for a 9:00am game only to be told it would now be at belmont at 8:30am.

sorry, you have to drive 20 mins east of here

Oh Kobe always here to fix our mistakes. If only your mum had fixed hers and swallowed rather than what she did do hey! Yes 9:30 was the time and we hit all sorts of traffic on Archer St for no good reason through Carlisle on a sunday no less. Turns out some elderly woman forgot to give way at a roundabout and the accident caused the stock standard perth 5kmh drive by for the next 15 minutes. Anon I totally agree regarding Stirling but their one big difference outside of having prime real estate to expand on, was that they already had a four court stadium they called their own. Was it run down and in desperate need of a makeover, sure; But they had a decent foundation to work from. Perth and East Perth do not have that at all. 3 court stadiums strongly limit growth, and when you are just a user in terms of stadium management, you also have to share those limited facilities with your netball, indoor soccer, volleyball, floorball, badmintons of the world also. If I was Perth i'd be putting a proposal to the City of South Perth to upgrade the George Burnett Facility on Manning Rd. Direct freeway access, huge room for development to make it a five or seven court facility, no parking issues with nearby sporting fields, be the primary tenant of a new stadium within their zone and open up to a bright future not too far from their current base at Vic Park. If I was the Perth President / Board, I would definitely be putting alot of energy into that proposal

Spectator you are so good at being a keyboard warrior. You must have a really good job to be replying to messages in the early afternoon ;)

Career will likely involve a jail cell in the short term

thewest.com.au

Why is the tip-off for Wolves game 8:30 with no game before ?

Four counts of indecently deals with a student over 16 in his care
One count of sexual penetration with a student over 16 in his care

If he's guilty of any of those, particularly the last one, then he gets to wear a green tracksuit for a couple of years at least. Will never teach or coach again you would imagine

The student did consent... I don't know how all the legal side of things work but this must be mentioned. I know its a massive mistake but I hope it all works out the best it can.

The Wolves game is at 8:30pm to give those attending the Australia vs Canada game which finishes at 7:30pm at the RAC Arena time to get to Joondalup to watch.

#994 the age of consent in WA is 16. The exception to this is when an adult has authority in the relationship such as a teacher or coach then the threshold increases to 18.

Using a position of power to have sex with a person under the age of 18 in your care is so much more than just a massive mistake, it's disgustingly planned out and done knowing full well the consequences if caught. Ask around in both Kalgoorlie and Geraldton at the moment and the rumours are rife that this was not an isolated case for him. Do they dig deeper and look at Broome or his current position with Seda? The general consensus is this is literally barely scratching the surface

Lakeside / Gero - Lakeside wins in 3
Hawks / Wolves - Hawks in 2

Re anonymous ... Hiding behind a keyboard to make unsubstantiated claims about an individual . I would imagine Mark Heron is in a pretty dark place mentally at the moment so best to keep false accusations to yourself...

Has anyone said anything that isn't backed up by the article?

I really wish that these matters would not be put in the public area until the person is found either guilty, or innocent. I believe our Law states a person is innocent until proven guilty and that is not guilty in the media but in a Court of Law. You destroy the lives of good honest people without knowing the full extent of the story. There is so much more to this story than meets the eye. Obviously the young lady was over the age of consent, did she or did she not consent to the alleged sexual act. Did she instigate the incident if so she should take responsibility for her own actions. Did the actual alleged incident take place and if so does the young lady know exactly when or is she herself unsure. Like I said so many things that are not put into your story but the devastation is still the same as the disgusting animals who actually deal with underage children.

Sadly the we have become a society that castigates people but the written word of the media, who are not always correct in their assumptions and who love to make a story look far more important than it is.

Please people, this is someone 's son, husband and father, he is a good man who has achieved amazing things in his life, why can't we be told of some of those things. I am not family by the way, just someone who is tired of the Media's castration of the truth for sensationalism.

"Cockburn was doing just fine in the years past....."

LMAO.

The stadium was a shithole and kids were walking out the door. One family had control of the juniors and destroyed the competitions due to ego and a dictatorial attitude.

Financial situation was dire, being kept afloat by loans from past board members. Cash flow was negative.

Turnaround started with the Harris board and continues now but its still along way back.

Doubt the new stadium ever happens. A move to Cockburn ARC is the only hope I would say.

Anon 142, would you feel the same way about "achieved amazing things in his life" if this was your daughter who has accused him, I doubt it. Regardless of if she gave him consent or not, the question will be did he use his position of power to influence her giving consent. I also question what happens if other students are also named as supporting evidence during the trial. Experience would show that stuff like this doesn't go to trial unless the prosecution has some fairly solid evidence, regardless of what Heron has done on the court this is what he will be remembered for now.

Imagine getting paid 28k to score 6 points and have 7 turnovers..

I spoke with Steindl tonight. It's his back playing up. Hopefully it's good for next weekend.

For the Wolves it was Ironmonger & Iliadis who performed down the stretch with some nice drives to the hoop.

Next weekend is certainly going to be a ripper. It will be intense!!

Just purchased some real estate in Earnest's head! I can see why they don’t class him as an import 6 points on 2-8 and 7 turnovers! More worried about grabbing his groin and swearing at spectators!

#EARNESTISNERVOUS

which teams pay the most for imports in sbl? what is the highest import salaries you guys know?

Ross and Purser got into a bit of a personal battle and both started to put up silly shots.

The foul count was 9-21 in favour of the Wolfpack what an absolute joke

Very quiet here this week. One could assume most posters are Hawks people keeping a low profile.

Womens
Coach of the Year: Mansfield (Lightning) Smokey: Dagostino (Senators)
MVP: Barr (Senators) Smokey: Garbin (Flames)
All Star 5: Dyer (Slammers) Barr (Senators) Steindl (Wolves) Snyder (Tigers) Garbin (Flames)
Rookie: Williams (Redbacks) if she still qualifies? Smokey: Winter (Tigers)

Mens
Coach of the Year: Joseph (Buccs) Smokey: Creek (Giants)
MVP: Braun (Suns) Smokey: Nelson (Redbacks)
All Star 5: Nelson (Redbacks) Blake (Suns) Burke (Giants) Ritchart (Flames) Braun (Suns)
Rookie: Travers (Flames) Smokey: Cross (Senators)

Referee of the Year: Craig Copes
Most Improved Referee: Nick Sokolich
Personality of the Year: Brett Costello

there is no rookie of the year award, its most improved

Can Lakeside bounce back to win game two on the road against the red hot Senators?
Do the Hawks have any answer for Ciabbatoni and the Flames in front of an expected jam packed Rockingham stadium?

Senators 2-1
Flames 2-0

Warwick vs Rockingham Womens GRAND FINAL

Ettridge to show everyone that choking is his special attribute in SBL Street Fighter as the Wolfpack lose both games this weekend, with Steindl back proving the big difference
Buccs should have too much firepower for the Lightning and i expect them to wrap that up in two

Hawks 2-1
Buccs 2-0

Perry Lakes vs Geraldton Mens Grand Final

I'm thinking Wolves best opponent in the Grand Final are the Buccs so then they have a shot at winning because the latter may outchoke the chokers.

SBL coaches have agents?

Disappointing for Magic women. After going all in for a title this year, they get swept in the quarter finals.

Smartest player from Mandurah must be Morgan Ballantyne. She plays meaningful minutes in a much better team whilst Watts benched all of his young locals. Maybe she saw it all coming.

Need to get Randy Miguel back without a doubt. The Watts experiment has been a catastrophic failure.

How must Craig Reynolds feel at the moment. The squad he put together makes a Grand Final after he was stabbed in the back mid-season by his replacement plus one or two others down there. Hopefully karma sees a Senators win for the good guys next Friday night

How were the guys in the Hawaiian shirts tonight? Followed the losers in the QF series and now rocked up and followed the losers in the semis. Keep doing whatever you are doing .. it works for us.

Looks like the trip to Hawaii is off for the 4-5 morbidly overweight supporters planted far side to try and upset the wolves main guys - didn't seem to work - poor form from PL but laughable outcome

Seemed loud and happy until about 5mins in - then just appeared to eat their feelings away throughout remainder of game thereon

Large Hawaiian, with extra salt

Someone forgot to tell the Hawaiians about the four peat.

The bar manager at Bendats wildest dreams have come true. The ferals from rocko drinking the place dry on Friday night, only for the emu bitter loving folk from Gero to finish off the drinkfest on Saturday night. Grand Final Club with the drunkest fans:

Rocko $1.20
Gero $1.80
Warwick $12
NRDP Refs in Courtside Seating $51
Joondalup $201

Didnt Rockingham beat the Senators up at Warwick by 20 odd with Howard and Barr playing like two weeks before the finals? Yep cool story mate! The question is how does Warwick stop the Big 4 in Garbin, Allen, Boag and Ciabbatoni? I think this will be alot closer than their previous encounter but still predict Flames to get their third title

Mens game is a fascinating one. Can the seasoned legs of the wolfpack contain the young studs in Ducas & Lasher for the Buccs. Ralph is also due for a big one and wouldn't it be a fairytale if he and Wunders can finally taste the ultimate success whilst giving Ettridge his fourth consecutive loss in the decider! I think this will be a classic of a grand final.

Best way to get TICKETS?? Ticketmaster ? Hard to pay $26 bucks for an SBL game but I believe this could be a good one worth the $$ ... if the Buccs win.

You can buy GF tickets directly through your club. It at least elimantes the BS Ticketmaster handling fee.

I know you didn't put Reynolds and Samuelson in the conversation of good coaches?

Ask the players how good Reynolds was, we'll wait...

Samuelson was a great wabl coach who couldn't transcend that at sbl level. Some would even say he struggled at state team level given some of the teams he has had, but he's not the first in either of those categories and definitely will not be the last either. For the poster who said clubs don't care about developing juniors, you only have to look at the Flames to disprove that statement. All of their Men's team this year outside of the imports, Robbins and Hire are all local Rockingham products. Their women's team have Garbin, Hetherington, Cooper and Wheki plus a couple of younger fringe squad players with talent. Many other clubs are the same but you need those highly skilled players who might necessarily be from your club to be competitive in the League, that's just the facts. Best of luck to all four teams this weekend and hopefully my Lightning can be back there next year

Garbin is not a Rocko junior

belieVe

Sorry to change the subject but....Wolfpack....Wolfpack....Wolfpack!!!

AHWOOO!

Congratulations to the Rockingham Flames and Wallet Boucaut! Another victory for $$$ #BroughtnotBuilt

"Franko" sounds more like a disgruntled former employee. Don't let that salt consume you or you may lose your hair. Oh wait... Nevermind

Poor Dagastino, what does he need to do to get over the hump?

Franko isnt wrong, would be the largest spend in the womens comp

All the bigger clubs spend. Whoever gets best value for money wins - unless they have a dud coach. I thought it was agreed on here that Joondalup had the biggest spend in WSBL history. Or are we going to let Nixxy off the burner.

The commentary both nights has been absolutely woeful. Please SBL get back people who understand the game. Last year's mix with Fleur, Utley and Trav was great as they weren't competing with each other to talk or try and be funny. Absolutely horrid listening for a good men's game

And turn the bloody music down

Agreed with posts above, commentary compared to last year last year was a severe let down (I didn't watch the women's so can't comment). Giving players nicknames to try and sound cool and what was at worst biased commentary towards the Wolves at every opportunity was poor form to say the absolute least. Mr Bowler - go with what works next year, not people trying to out-do each other with special nicknames and who can seem more excited into the microphone more when a certain team score, you're ruining an otherwise good product with mediocrity on your biggest stage

Where's all the awhooing now? Four years in a row you can't get it done on the big stage. Word is the walking ego was advised he would not be head coach next year either at some point in the past month. Explains the link to Alava's company. Do Iliadis and Salinas retire? Thoughts going out to Maxy on a speedy recovery too. The big bad wolf looks alot more domesticated tonight. Congrats to the Buccs who clearly wanted it more. The emotion shown by Wundenberg, Ralph and Hunt post game shows how much this meant to the local boys. That will be one rocking bus back up Brand Hwy tomorrow morning

Heard a rumour Utley and Franko are doing commentary next year!

The Buccs definitely wanted it more, were higher energy and deserved the win.
But that had to be one of the most poorly reffed games I have ever seen

Wow, four losing Grand Finals in a row now. Oh my.

Wolves brass seriously erred by persisting with the GF choker for as long as they did. What an absolute waste of money. #cashburn

Maybe that clown for a CEO Britt can change their slogan now to 'The Destination of Choke for Basketball in WA'

He'll put his spin on it saying it showed their excellence making it to the grand final 4 years in a row. Aside from etto giving us a masters degree these past four years in the art of choking, how good was it to see wannabe post malone do absolutely nothing against the physical way the buccs went about it with him off the ball.

Congrats to the Buccs! Great send off for Wunders who has been the club stalwart for so long. Not that I'm sure it's his last season but why not go out on a very big high!

Would it be the first time that first year coaches have won the SBL and WSBL champs in the same year?

If the walking ego Ettridge survives this long with Britt then the place is a joke

Had enough

It sure is. I follow a lot of sport and have never seen a streak like this. Comical stuff.

I won't be throwing the toys out of the cot like you lot. Yes it’s incredibly disappointing to lose 4 in a row though I’d rather be in the big dance than watching from the sidelines. We have a club that is successful off court and this doesn’t happen by accident. Chill out.

I was with Jem Wolfie not Andrew.

What does off court success entail? Money taken off juniors to pay juniors taken off other clubs. Perhaps disgruntled members and coaches of junior teams. As usual the Joondalup spin is full of shit.

Has Ben Dover pulled his pants up yet??

Let's just call an end to this thread
Well done Gero and well done Rocko

Can we shake off the bleeding idiots and start again
In March when it gets interesting again.
Hopefully they won't come back.

Well word has it the Wolves will be shaking off the GF bleeder Etto.

Ben Dover you ok??

I watched the SBL Final on the "Live Stream"
Very well done by the way. At it's peak there was over 1.5K viewing it.

Gero looked like the better team the entire game beginning at the initial "jump ball" when Gero had a easy Dunk.
Lasher/Hunt were the best on the court. You could tell who wanted it more. ( Davis / Ross should pay all there season's wages back for the performance on Saturday night )

Love seeing the country boys showing what it is like to play with heart!