Thought we played very bad defense.
Also getting frustrating that our best 12 are not suiting up...
Every tournament it seems kids are injured or choose not to play. Can't see us going far in the tournament.

The team looked horrible, gave up open 3's and showed no intensity the entire game.

Hopefully a better showing tonight.

Bannan over Leupepe, maker over Kunen, green over Buluk.
Medal chance...

Obviously Maker/Green would bolster our chances greatly, but still a good opportunity to catch a look at a few good prospects.

Sam Froling is looking to have another productive international tournament which is typical for him. He has a level of poise and a skill level in the post that is rare at this age. 6 assists was great to see. I think the next step for him offensively is being more of a threat as a shooter, and that's going to be imperative to any NBA chances.

For the life of me, I don't understand the appeal of Lee starting over Wigness. Nothing against Lee, but he had 2 and 2 in 18 minutes against Canada. His impact on the court feels minimal when contrasted to when Tamuri comes on. Wigness actually started off struggling with an airballed 3 and a TO iirc, but his PnR passing, general incisiveness as a driver, overall scoring ability (including 3 triples), and super active defense just pop off the screen. I'm praying he keeps growing because he's got legitimate NBA traits.

Mali just beat Latvia, are they real threats to this aus squad?

This is the WC, not just another 'let's see how good he is' tournament.

From this level upwards you will always have trouble getting all available players.
Such a shame I think
Wigness
Green
Stattman
Maker
S Froling would be a great starting 5.

how is everyone watching these games? youtube?

Yes, YouTube. Or on fiba website.


Wigness/MacDonald/Lee
Stattman/Ducas
Green/Robertson or Travers
Maker/Bowen/Bannan
Froling/Dalton

thanks

Probably in next game.
Didn't want to risk him.

If we can beat Mali by a bit, we should finish top.

You mean Mali beat Canada

So are you Dave or Makur Maker? Oops

anon - How can you say that about Wigness? He is by no means inefficient

13 points on 5/9 shooting against Canada
9 points on 4/6 shooting against Latvia


Including 4/6 from 3 so far.

And this is consistent with his play at other tournaments. Remember his like 10/11 FG game last year for Aus?

Wigness rarely takes a bad shot, makes great decisions within the offense, and generates heaps of easy points for teammates with his passing was the catalyst for the Emu's best runs in both games. They have simply been better with him on the floor.

Struggles to involve teammates? That's just a load of ****. He's the best floor general/passer on the team and plays a very pass-1st style.

His impact compared to Isaiah Lee (no offense to him, like the kid) is night and day.

Lee in the 2 games so far -

22 mins, 1/8, 4 points, 1 assist
18 mins, 1/2, 2 points, 2 assists

Wigness and Froling are the 2 best players on this squad and it's not close.

Stattman close third

Lots of selections also go on the mates act, all 50/50 or even 40/60 calls favour players who are in the click or have parents in favourable positions. It's the same in all sports and is bloody annoying.

Once we get to u19 Worlds, do coaches basically feel that omitting a COE/Global Academy kid is an admission of failure? That it would say either we got it wrong when we selected this kid to start with, or our development processes for him haven't been good enough? There's appeal to the known quantity in any case, you know the kid can handle himself in that environment and not be flustered by the travel, stage, etc. But it does feel, and I think this will be exacerbated by the new qualification format, like far too much of u19 selection is based on u16 performances.

We are not taking these junior world cups seriosly enough imo.
When will start sending our best teams and not give coaches 2-3 chances after poor results,

U19B
4th, 7th, DNQ, ?

U19G
3rd, 3rd, 6th, ?

U17B
2nd, 7th, 6th, ?

U17G
5th, 1st, 3rd, ?

I'll say this much - if Maker, Green and King were playing (or any combination of them, really), I'd be 1000% more invested in watching the games.

King is next u19s.
Hopefully everyone shows up in 2021.

Wigness and Jayden Stone should be part of that too.
Any promising bigs though?

Giddey in 2021 as well. Not much in the bigs in that age group, but might be manageable playing small ball if some of the guards and wings keep growing. Adebayo, Jones, Schmidt and Tsapatolis. Only Adebayo really looks like having a chance to hold down the middle against opposing Cs at Worlds level. McWilliams is younger but might make enough progress by then to give us some genuine size. So hard to know with the boys this age though as they can grow, stop growing, add muscle, lose pace, almost overnight and look like totally different players between tournaments.

Early prediction.
Next u19s looks to be...

PG 5'11 T.Wigness / 6’1 B,Bayles / 6’4 D.Daniels(03)
SG 6’5+ M.King / 6’4 T.Armstrong
SF 6’7+ J.Giddey / 6.7+ J.Duach(03)
PF 6’8+ L.Adebayo / 6’10+ B.Jones / unknown PF?
C 6’10 P.Tsapatolis / 7’0 L.Schmidt

L Schmidt American ?

No, he's at the C.O.E

so Potentially missing...

00 J.Stone 6'3 PG - Offer from Auburn, Louisville, Baylor, Illinois, Georgetown etc
00 J.Green 6’6 SG - Committed to Arizona
00 M.Maker 6’11 PF - Offer from Kentucky, Auburn, Louisville, Kansas, Oregon, UCLA etc
01 L.Travers 6’6 SG - Unknown future
01 J.Bannan 6’9 PF - Commited to Montana

What about Smith from Tas or Rasmussen from SA?

Both pretty small for the next level at under 6'2. Both great shooters but what else can they offer.

Both 6'1 atm. Still some time to grow. One will be on the u17 oceania team and the other on the u16 Asia team most likely.

Is Anyang Garang any good? Or raw physical tools we're hoping for a late bloom from?

Not saying he's not a cg, just that he will likely play at sf in that competition and 6’7+ would be his projected height in 2 years.

Giddy is literally 6'7 now, he was listed in the NBL1 website and elsewhere at 199 cm, And in recent photos he looks to have grown i’d say 6’8 would be quite likely.
I think he would be a point guard but maybe in the 2002 under 19 WC he may play 1-3

Also for Bigs there’s a few in the US
Harrison Hornery 6’9 offers from Georgia Tech & TCU
Akoldah Gak 6’10/6’11 gorjok & deng’s brother

COE/global Academy
Jones 69 Schmidt 611 Waters 611
As well as
Rowe 6’11
2003
Dengdit 6’8 McWilliams 7’0

As for this year's team it will be very interesting to see if the coach changes his starting lineup.
leupepe is just too slow and running two point guards is so 80s 90s Australian style.
They will need to beat Mali by at least six points to get in first position
You would like to think that learnt something from the pretty obvious mistakes made when playing Canada there are number of guys he couldn’t compete athletically with them and Mali will be the same

Also quite surprised hunter Goodrick was overlooked For Robinson/leupepe they play at the coaches HomeClub Dandenong, quite a poor decision ..

Dengdit being 03 and already 6'8. We could see him become that next pf beyond Adebayo and jones.
Yak has been getting some good reviews, hopefully aus staff are in contact still.

Gak'

Is Jayden Stone 00 or 02.

2000-2003 already looking promising (early days of course)
Green
Maker
Froling
Stattman
Bowen
Wigness
Stone
King
Hornsey
A Gak
McWilliams
Gatbel
Schmidt
Travers
any others.

Giddey
Tsapotilis
Dengdit
Waters.

Stone is 00.

Leupepe really struggling with the speed and he has missed about 15 or so layups already this tournament.

Little bit of pressure and we fall to pieces...

Leupepe & Lee are having shockers

Lee just doesn't seem to have any confidence
Even froling seems to be having confidence problem
They really are just having a really bad second quarter this is where the coach really needs to start doing something

Escaped, 3 by froling gets us the win.

should have lost

MacDonald was a savage. Clutch three by froling

now they get to play lithuania, serbia and USA just to get to finals.

If they had of lost or won by 2 or less (or more than 9), they would have played NZ, Argentina/Russia.

Dam, not sure we can get past these teams ahead, Mali ended up in the best position finishing 3rd.

3 way tie, the coaching staff should have known the points situation. Extremely poor coaching.

they could have let the game go into overtime and then try to win by 10 or they could have fouled on the last play and win by 1 or 2 and avoid the USA.

Tournament effectively over while NZ is still alive.

Notice how Greece were smart enough to lose to ensure they avoided the USA.

Top half of the draw is now stacked with Russia, USA, Lithuania, Serbia oh and Australia.

Wani Swaka Lo Buluk 2001 to add to list above.

One thing is for sure when they are trying to figure out 2021 team make sure in advance they reach out to US based players eg Hornery and Adolkah Gak.

Looks like the guys really struggled with Mali's length but did a great job to pull it out. Tough team to play.

"If they had of lost or won by 2 or less (or more than 9), they would have played NZ, Argentina/Russia."

If that's true (I haven't fact checked), then Aus could have simply fouled immediately on the final play. If Mali makes 1-2 free throws then you have the desired result. Poor coaching and/or execution, it seems.

How has Mali suddenly competing with us and Canada? Nba global academy influence?

Yes, Mali, Senegal and Nigeria inparticular will continue to get stronger. It will be very difficult to compete with them.
Mali and Nigeria in the women's are also rapidly improving with coaching and resources.

Transferring from Rhode island.

Coe staff preach toughness in the Aussie game but we always show very little desire compared to our opponents.

Completely outhustled in the first half.

Couldn't play the 1st half like we did in the 3rd qtr?

Butter fingers ducas.

Didn't show up in the first half.

So many easy corner threes

Perry and Anstey out. Another terrible job done by the coaches in Aussie junior ball.
Only Seebohm has performed at junior level in the last several years.

Think we would have beaten Serbia, they have been pretty bad against the phillipines.

Perry should never coach for Australia again. Turning down a round of 16 match up against NZ. Dumb dumb dumb. Rankings are very important.