Adelaide with that buyout money.

Unlikely to be any buyout money he had a Euro out clause in his new contract.

Liam Santa said his out clause was on buyout.

Thank you Wiley...you did more for the Sixers by not playing than you ever did playing.

Boti's a bit closer to the 36ers action than Santamaria. The team had to release him from his contract to go and play in Spain anyway so there is no contract with the 36ers he's a free agent and has chosen to sign elsewhere rather than negotiate a new contract with the 36ers.

What about all the guys who are still contracted by their NBL clubs (or signed new ones like Wiley did) but are playing overseas? I wouldn't think their contracts got released.

Eg Sobey, Nick Kay NZNBL and Casper Ware?

Which he opted out of to play in Spain.

Zodiac - Boti Nagy's latest blog restates the fact that Wiley signed a 1-year extension before heading to Spain. There's been discussion in other threads about how those deals work. i.e., NBL contracted players can be given leave to play elsewhere during NBL off-season.

So it's highly likely Santamaria's correct in saying the contract's out-clause requires his extension to be bought out.

Nagy also confirms Eric Griffin as the replacement, as posted by others on here over the last couple of weeks.

I'm well aware what goes on during the offseason thanks I'm sure Boti specifically wrote about 1-1.5 months ago that his new contract with the Sixers was torn up once he exercised the Euro out clause to go and play in Spain.

I've been looking for the specific post on his blog and haven't been able to find it so will bow out of the convo as he's now posted something contradictory to that anyway.

*facepalm* how many times are we going to have this argument about playing elsewhere in the off season while being contracted to NBL teams? (probably until teams themselves actually confirm it, maybe, or until there is some consistency and transparency?)

Wiley would have been an idiot to have a Euro buyout clause in his contract instead of the usual euro outs that pretty much every NBL player would have...

That's true Wookie there was nothing really in it for Wiley to get that new deal done with the Sixers late last season it always struck me as more PR and something to rev up the boys in the final week of the season to make a playoff push.

Just for discussions sake, would Pathaniaikos have had to buy him out in Euros? And what sort of price range would the buyout have been?

"Wiley would have been an idiot to have a Euro buyout clause in his contract instead of the usual euro outs that pretty much every NBL player would have"

Perhaps, but maybe the deal was otherwise very attractive?

Perhaps the buyout is paid for by the new club, and for them doesn't count towards salary? He's probably going to sign whatever deal his agent negotiates, so who knows.

I just hope that this doesn't turn into another Creek bitch-fight Adelaide asserting that he's contracted, and Wiley claiming he aint.

Some people here not understanding contracts.
I'm sure Wiley was happy to get a contract early (job security) and with receiving the said contract early was happy to have a Euro buyout (highly unlikely at the time)
Wiley has exceeded expectations in Europe and has earn’t himself a better paid contract.
The team in Europe is happy to pay the buyout, Wiley happy to get paid more and Adelaide happy to get some money for signing an import early.

Didn't realise Boti still writes I thought he retired.

Its very simple

You can't have 2 contracts in place at the same time

In order to go from the NBL to another league the NBL team must clear you to the other team

When they clear you they are signing to say that there are no more obligations on either party so effectively ending the contract regardless of the term left to run on the initial deal.

When the 36ers released Wiley to Europe that was the end of his contract, exactly the same as when they released Creek

If players opt to return and honour their contract then that is a gentleman's agreement and not a binding deal. ( Bradtke , Bruton , McCarron etc etc )

If the 36ers wanted to collect on a Wiley buy out clause they would have needed to do it before releasing him to Gran Canaria.

Thanks Yolo hence why there won't be any buyout money for the Sixers his new Sixers contract was terminated the moment he signed with Gran Canaria.

The Sixers knew all this they re-signed Wiley mainly for the PR and he was willing to go along with it just in case nothing came in from Europe.

I haven't seen the paperwork and I dare say Yolo & Wookie haven't either but I remember what Boti wrote in a blog post about it not that long ago and I'm sure he knows the score.

Why would the Sixers perpetuate the myth that Wiley was still contracted to the team even when he was playing for Gran Canaria? Because they're moving into a new stadium and want to sell as many memberships as possible he is after all an exciting player.

OH FFS.

Of course you can have multiple contracts.

And NO, granting a clearance does NOT mean they waive the contract.

Look at all the guys playing in the NZNBL! You think they are somehow magically not contracted to their NBL teams any more?

I am no expert but Liam Santa definitely said Wiley has an Euro-out with buy out.

Now why would he mention that if the Sixers had to tear up that contact in the first place to go to Europe?

D2.0

Happy to educate you here. This all depends on the intent of the player. The player can utilise the clearance as a way of not being forced to return to the initial club.

Once the player is cleared from one club to another , the new club effectively owns that player and can stop that player from going anywhere else

Euro clubs use this to their advantage and its how they don't make full payments to players

If the player hasn't got their money they take the club to arbitration with FIBA. This takes a long time and so the player is effectively tied to the club they are suing and isn't able to legally play anywhere else whilst they are in-dispute.

The club will say that they will release the player as long as they agree to $x and both parties move on. Player gets a substantial discount to what they were expecting but they go to a new club and start earning again instead of sitting on the sidelines.

Again remember how players in the past have ended up at different NBL teams despite having long term contracts.

The Wiley thing was good for both as long as he didn't get picked up elsewhere.

Buyout or no buyout who actually cares.

Blah.