Anonymous
Years ago
Wiley gone, Euro buyout?
Just heard on 5aa Wiley gone via European buyout. Any truth to this?
Anonymous
Years ago
Just heard on 5aa Wiley gone via European buyout. Any truth to this?
Camel 31
Years ago
joey was on radio 5aa a week ago and said ' he's contracted ' about 4 times, when asked about it....
Anon
Years ago
Get another import. Might work out alright.look to upgrade.
Wiley never really won games. He was a great supporting cast recruit that was very entertaining but he wasnt the Casper/Cotton/Patterson/Prather that can win games in his own right when needed.
Adelaide wouldnt necessarily lose out if he left.
Perthworld
Years ago
Wiley did a Road Runner on the Sixers. Meep meep.
Good, now hopefully we can find a better fit to the team.
D2.0
Years ago
A buyout means the player is contracted long-term, but can buy his way out of the remainder of his contract, according to an agreed formula (stipulated in the contract.)
They're technically unlawful in Australia, but I gather its allowable under FIBA rules. The intention is never that the player is forced to buy his own way out, but it means that if another team comes along with a huge offer, they can buy him out. So in theory its a win-win-win. 6's get some cash, he goes to a better team for more money, and they get their player.
I can't recall it actually happening, but I do recall before Beal's last season, there was the possibility of someone buying him out.
I thought most guys would have a Euro-out clause, and this would only apply to other leagues?
But perhaps he doesn't have a Euro-out, or its very specific and restricted?
Perthworld
Years ago
It was my last chance to use that play of words since he's leaving. Sorry.
Interestingly Wiley's stats in the second best domestic league in the world ACB are far superior than his NBL ones. Was he wrongly utilised at the Sixers?
proud
Years ago
Of course he was wrongly used, what did he have in Perth 11 points in the first 4 minutes and then fiñished with what 17 points for the game and hardly touched the ball for the rest of the game.
For someone so enthusiastic and emotional, I don't thînk the 36ers went to him not nearly enough when he was feeling good and then benchèd him just in the hope of playing Deng into form.
I'll misss him and how much he went at Illawarra... That was fun
AngusH
Years ago
Yeah, Wiley was critically underused. Had his faults defensively, but Joey inexplicably glued him to the bench for long stretches, even when he had had a strong start to games.
We also had a point guard that didn't utilise the hot hand but instead took shots for himself when other players were feeling it
sixtiesrockstar
Years ago
Think this may work in Sixers favour as they can now get an import to suit the balance of the team. Loved Wiley but couldn't play defence. Not a good pairing alongside DJ. Need another big to allow DJ to play more at the 4.
What would be the best replacement? Feel they need a guy that can get a score when needed. DJ is good but someone needs to get him the ball. Do they go with a 3 that can play a bit of 4 rather than a 4 that can play a bit of 3.
Beantown
Years ago
I don't think scoring will be too much of a problem. What they need is basically an agile big man like Wiley, but who can actually rebound and play defence. If the Sixers do get some buyout money from the Wiley deal and can nail his replacement, then things are starting to go in the right direction again finally.
Anon
Years ago
Need a shot blocker key way presence. Strong post game. Allow DJ to have space.
Zodiac
Years ago
I don't think there will be any buyout money as the Sixers had to release Wiley from his new contract to allow him to play in Spain in the first place.
Zodiac, you can "loan" teams a contracted player.
Zodiac
Years ago
Boti said they released him from his contract. He's chosen not to re-sign with us.
Master Chief
Years ago
Was never convinced Wiley was a good fit for Adelaide and never understood why they rushed to re-sign an import like they did. In saying that though, he's putting up good numbers in Spain and has already made it to the NBA so you do wonder if Adelaide were getting it right in how to use him.
Liam Santamaria has suggested Adelaide won't be disappointed with the replacement player if it works out, so they must be determined to bring in someone who can seriously boost them.
I think what's happened is, Adelaide were in talks with a big name point guard but went in the cheaper direction when they realised Wiley wasn't coming back. If that's the case, I guess the plan is to free up as much money as they can to replace Wiley with a stud while hoping Taylor can be as good as someone they have to pay more to get. I'm not suggesting Taylor is budget in regards to ability though. It could just be a way of being more flexible and as we've seen, if Taylor doesn't work out, he can always be replaced.
Lovebroker
Years ago
Wiley leaving and the Sixers getting paid is probably the best news I have heard all off-season (second only to Teys and White for 2 more years).
Wiley is decent but he is not the import you need for a Championship aspirant.
"Boti said they released him from his contract. He's chosen not to re-sign with us."
Part of that release could include a buy-out amount if he doesn't return for next season.
Life of a Sixers Fan:
Pre-Season: All our players are Shit, Joey should be sacked and I'm not renewing my membership.
Regular Season: All our players are the best in the league, Joey is the best coach, and we are going to win the Championship.
Post-Season: All our players are shit and should not be re-signed, Joey is leaving, and its all management's fault.
True Life of a Sixers Fan:
Pre-Season: We should sign Ibekwe
Regular Season: We could win more game and be a real championship contender if we paired Ibekwe with Johnson
Post-Season: Glad that's done, now we can sign Ibekwe for next season
Camel 31
Years ago
Might be a Euro/NBA out, but the club gets some compensation, written in.
I got the impression of him being injured, those games he was no good and not many minutes. Sure looked pretty good some games.
Beantown
Years ago
My only memory of Lavoy Allen is of him as a rookie playing his @ss off defending KG in the 2012 playoffs. Very good rebounder and defender as a young college and NBA player. No idea if he still has the athleticism and desire to still make an impact in the NBL!
Beantown
Years ago
Yeah I know how old he is. If he signs and is fit and committed then he could be a huge pickup for the Sixers. I just don't want to get my hopes up after all the negative shit that has gone down since losing the GF.
Eric Griffin. Remember that name. I'm the anon that tipped Obi Kyei to the 36ers. Griffin had a murder charge pending but got dropped. Google him. He will be in Adelaide. Perthworld you are welcome for this tip.
Hogwash
Years ago
Certainly makes it easier to play without a murder charge hanging over your head.
Quite the journeyman though.
Probably an easy way to get him at a good price. I mean not many teams would take an accused murderer
Perthworld
Years ago
Actually reading the story it was more a case of mistaken identity?
#597 thanks again!
didnt the witness say the culprit was 6'0-6'2ish and Griffin is 6'9, so very much sounds like they went for the wrong man and Griffin is likely innocent.
Master Chief
Years ago
Griffin looks like he can put the ball on the floor and do a bit of everything. Allen looks more like a tougher inside player which is something I think Adelaide need. Kind of a catch 22.
Who is more suited do we think?
Anon
Years ago
Griffin looks like Wiley but has a stronger body, better handles and is a genuine shot blocker. Could be a who knows what you'll get.
Allen will be mr consistent. Great in the low block and rebounder at both ends.
With Froling back i’d take a chance on Griffin.
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