This is the epic matchup to end all epic matchups.

It's the great Australian success story, the greatest NBL franchise, playing the team from the greatest basketball city (and the greatest sporting city) in the country.

Gaze, Andersen, Bogut, Heal, Cambage, Taylor....so many of the great Australians grew up in Melbourne, many playing junior basketball here.

In the NBL’s 40 years, most years there’s been a team from Melbourne amongst the championship contenders. Often more than one.

After years in the wilderness, Melbourne United is flying the flag for this great city and looking for back to back titles.

These teams played 4 times this season. 3 of the games went down to the last 10 seconds, including 2 that went to overtime.

We’ve got the coaches of the past 5 championships battling it out- Gleeson’s won 3 in his 5 seasons in Perth, Vickerman’s Breakers defeated the Cats in 2015 before Vickerman led United to glory last year.

You couldn’t have scripted this better.

Every year people talk about how the NBL is getting better. We’ve had guys like Ennis, Ferguson, Craig, McRae make the move from NBL to NBA recently. Elite imports like Cotton and Ware sticking around and making the NBL their home. Stars like Goulding, Lisch, Andersen, Bogut, Jawai, Newley returning home from overseas. Only 8 teams which means a greater concentration of talent in a small number of teams.

And these are the two teams that have reigned during the NBL’s ascension. Playing off in a best of 5.

So here’s a question- Will the winner of this series be able to rightfully call themselves the best NBL team ever?

Only if its Perth. And even then it doesn't matter if they win or not.

Some great matchups, United are the faves for me, but it depends which Cats bench turns up. If Stiendl gets hot and Wagstaff finds some form then I think it'll be hard for United to match that.

Cotton = Ware
Terrico = Kennedy
Kay > Barlow
Boone/Pledger > Brandt/Jervis
Martin vs Goulding
Steindl/Wagstaff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moller/Hooley
McCarron = X-factor
Norton ?

Team.

Not franchise or club.

Sorry- Cairns not Perth were runners up in 15

I said Melbourne is a great city.

United represents the city of Melbourne.

Perth are the greatest franchise of all time. If you read my post before responding, you would've seen that I stated that clearly.

Talent wise I agree Kennedy is better than White, but on these teams I think they cancel each other out.

Moller and Hooley have improved and do get a lot of minutes, but who else would they play if not? I've never seen an NBL calibre player put up such terrible shots as Hooley, there's bad shots, there's bricks, then there's whatever Hooley puts up...would rather Steindl and Wagstaff's streaki-ness over Moller and Hooley every day of the week. And I did leave Hire out only because I couldn't think of a 3rd bench option to add to that duo, i guess if you add Goulding or McCarron then united's bench is prob slightly better, but less depth with Norton and Jervis added.

Hard to really believe that either melb or cats current teams are even close to the claim of all Time greatest team tbh.

There have been some seriously good teams over the years.

I'd be thinking this current cats team MIGHT make the top 10 (cats teams only) on the back of cotton, but even then I doubt it

Not going to speak on behalf of melb teams, that's a bit more complicated.

LV do you honestly believe this melb team is close to a GOAT lineup? Because I dont

Who was the 5th guy on the Tigers when they were Gaze, Copeland, Simmons and Bradtke? Brett Rainbow enough to tip this team over? :P

I do think the Bullets of 07 are still the Goats, and in a fantasy time machine matchup would beat either of these teams

But I do think the depth of talent in the NBL is great these days

Goulding's a 6th man! Steindl's a 9th/10th man.....

Banners not flags.

I don't care, I'm just looking forward to the top two teams duking it out.

Don't have a preference, I have friends on both teams, so just looking forward to (in a perfect world) the whole damn thing coming down to the final shot in Game 5...

hopefully that final shot is a layup attempt for casper

Some crazy statements here. Both teams are very good. United probably takes the paper battle, but perth has the pedigree and experience. Hopefully a cracking series where the refs let them play. Both teams have shown no fear on their opponents home court. Should be a great series!

Some nice Xs & Os - with illustrations - here in this article:

Melbourne United's Playbook: How Can Perth Defend It?

"Who was the 5th guy on the Tigers when they were Gaze, Copeland, Simmons and Bradtke? Brett Rainbow enough to tip this team over? :P"

Sibley in 93.

That starting line up was arguably the best over, but had zero depth (Gordon was 8th man and 9 and 10 never saw time). Back then it wasn't so much an issue but you couldn't do that these days.

That Wildcats team they beat was similar. 4 All-timers in the starting line up then little else.

TT was ok and played his role, but was limited. Rookie Cattalini constantly looked like a deer trapped in headlights. He turned into a great player, but in 93 he wasn't able to contribute much.

TT was ok and played his role, but was limited.

Rookie Cattalini constantly looked like a deer trapped in headlights. He turned into a great player, but in 93 he wasn't able to contribute much.

In fact, Catt was the leading scorer off the bench for the Wildcats with 3.8ppg.

I think "little else" was a valid comment.

Aaaaaaahhhhhhh Jack, good one brother!

As usual plenty of banter here, plenty of ref' bashing, accusations, elitist statements, bias comparisons, heated debates and all the hopeful enthusiastic predictions we hope for.

Can't wait, should be an epic final series.

State v State, mate v mate, classic NBL finals to be sure...

My prediction is a 5 game series, United to get up with a flop call, oh damn, who could get that one, lol...

I specifically said TT played his role.

Cattalini played in 27 games for the season, including playoffs and scored a total of 103 points. You may remember him as being "close to the best sixth man" and I'm sure he showed flashes, but he was very raw and struggled a lot under pressure. The following seasons he improved greatly.

It isn't a knock against the Wildcats, or Catt, its just the way the league was back then.

Grace, Crawf, Vlahov and Fisher scored almost exactly 80% of the points for the Wildcats that season. In anybody's language, that would suggest they had "little else".

I never said the other players weren't useful, just that they were very top heavy.

Your "close to the best 6th man" had a total of 8 points and 8 rebounds across 3 games in the GF series. He did not contribute much. Fact.

TT went 0-9 from the field in the decider. He did not contribute much. Fact.

I bet Gaze, Copes, Hoges and Timmons shot over 80% of the Tigers points in 97 too

That's how the 90s was. Nowadays, less teams and more depth on each team.

Exactly

I have no confidence in predicting this either way.
At their best, Cats are the better team, but hat does that even mean.
Our bench has been MIA in the SF. If that persists then we're in trouble.
Damo will play his guts out, but I'm not sure he's up to a 5 game series if he has to play big minutes. That means Cotton at the point for serious minutes, which means Steindl and Hire have to get their fingers out. On the plus side White was good in both games, so hopefully he keeps that up.
Wagstaff's inconsistency is becoming a problem. We need him firing if we're to have a solid chance.

HCA does give us the edge, buts its not insurmountable. Looking for that win in game 1 so e get off to a good start.

Following on from yesterday's article, this is Part 2:

Perth's Playbook: How Can Melbourne Defend It?

Game day! Small bet on Cats 1-10. Should be tight, Cats have to win this first game or it's all over.

I can't see the margin getting to double figures unless one coach says "game over, clear the bench. Let's reset in game 2"

I am enjoying how precious some east coast fans are about the game time.

Personally I blame daylight savings.

I can't tip this game. Nothing within 20 points either way would really surprise me because finals pressure can do funny things.

Overall though I feel like United are likely to steal one in Perth, whereas I don't think Perth are going to get one on the road. That's partly because Melbourne are a very good team, and partly because both their home games are < 48 hours after games in Perth and I think Melbourne's depth will be a factor in those. Trevor seems more easily spooked into reverting to his starters.
Very happy that Norton is back. Not sure how effective he will be in games 1 & 2, but if his leg survives the weekend he could be important later.

Very happy that Norton is back.

It's been sorted Kobe.

When Norton was told he was in, he gave dech an overly aggressive tap on the shoulder, and we are counting it as an injury

That series of playbook articles leaves me wondering about Joey Wright's need for stacked teams and speed to be succesfull.
I watchedthe "guru of Go" 30/30 documentary, and actually attended the great mans two Australian clinics back in the day. So I don't disrepect the diffuculty of this philosophy at all, but can it last for more than 2 seasons in a club
- not so certain.

Any chance of a truce on the teeange-angst style ref sooking tonight? Some civil discussion about what should be a ripper of a GF series?

They actually shipped Matt Russell across the country for this a GF game.

Terrico you da real MVP

Terrico you da real MVP

Good to see the refs are only calling the fouls that are there early

Beware Hoopsters

I feel another "ref bashing" thread coming on.

No question the Melbourne bench is better than the Wildcats and it's showing right now

Can't wait for this game to begin.

That was the warmup, right?

Geez I can't tell if I'm more nervous. Or everyone on the court other than T.

Kennedy is not enjoying himself. Refs haven't been horrible (from what I've seen)

Hoping for some better off%

Both teams have scouted their opposition well. A lot of switching on cutters away from the ball.

I watch a fair bit of NBA, thought I'd tune in and give this a chance, it's actually terrible, not just the skills but the decisions, total jungle ball!

Yep, this is totally sh!t right now. Garbage.

Yeah, Melb in particular making a lot of mistakes. Moller shooting early in the clock, Ware dishing off to Moller late in the clock, DJ missing 4 FTs.

That was a bad call on Jervis, the earlier one he was moving but that time he wasn't

Goulding "falling down" easily already

Refs have shown up before either team.

Thankfully I'm not sober

Nothing like some imaginary fouls to help united, legal screen and then whatever that was meant to be on wagstaff... absolutley pathetic.

Gleeson to the ref:

"Oi! You call another foul on us and you won't get that cheque at the end of the game!"

Gleeson in desperate need of a razor.

Goulding playing like Demopolous still on the sidelines.

Ah shit

HT PER 29-33 MEL

Where's that vomit GIF...

I sort of miss young Goulding who would have talked trash in moments like that

DJ would be a huge loss if he doesn't return, but at the same time this is supposed to be the deepest team in the league.

Angus and the refs sending a message..........

DJ won't be back this game. I doubt he plays Sunday either

Jessica from Bunnings lol.

These are the complete opposite to Super Bowl ads.

Wildcats have just sent out an e-mail re: Game 3 tickets after a not-the-best advert half of basketball.

Who the F is Paddy Sweeney? Is Lachy Reid away somewhere?

It's pretty clear what Perth's tactics were - they were the ones who rear-ended DJ Kennedy!

Just watched replay

With the absolute nonsense they call as USF'S these days, they really should be consistent and call Brandt for a USF or disqualifying foul

Stepped sideways and knocked a guy in the head with his shoulder- that's about 10x worse than many of the USFs they call now

Brandt didn't make a dirty play against Kennedy when he got hurt, watch the replay he didn’t move. Was just an unfortunate thing where he clipped his shoulder with his face and then snapped his head back which appeared to aggravate a past neck injury

dat neck hair

lol I was wrong

David Barlow looks like an Ostrich when he shoots

Watch the replay

Brandt moved into him

Bare minimum was a moving screen

Go glad that a Netball club is entering the NBL

Great to see DJ back out there!

LOL @ Redhage being super excited re: SEM Phoenix. What a brown nose.

How many times can Ware get shafted on charge calls

Block on Casper- joke

Watch refs ramp up the Perth love down the stretch

Nick Kay and the mad threes

Shocking call on Casper.. great DJ is playing again

LV vs. J in a ref calls battle - whoever wins we lose.

Cadee > Barlow

Lol at Barlow's ass

Reminds me of Flanders in that ski episode

... travel?

He's with God now

Not caught up on here...


But how the fk was that a travel? Clear block

Money Makin Mitch Norton

So are we tossing goulding for running theough damo and then Norton lv?

So are we tossing goulding for running theough damo and then Norton lv?

Ilix Plidga

Utd are horrible.

Jesse Wagstaff showing just how important GF experience is.

Stuart Flagstaff is a gun

Perth looking more dangerous than Michael Jackson at a primary school

Flagstaff again

Home cooking is delicious

MONEY MAKIN

That foul on Casper- where's that been on Perth all game?

cant they find a netball coach to interview ?

Boone got raped 50 times and no call

Clear foul on Kay before DJ turnover leading To Kay Put back dunk

Big Shot Makin Caspar Ware

Terrico the Terreal MVP

Casper playing really well

Perth just shooting too well and United D not as sharp in half 2

Hmmm, I wonder which team is losing.

Really soft hooking call.

Damo the Snip3r

Casper barely touched Cotton on that "hook "

I like watching great players play,

I don't enjoy watching the refs screw them over

Boom boom boom let me hear you say Damo

Flopstaff pls

United needs more contributors than Casper if they're going to win this series....

Perth scout has been supreme, they know United and they defend well

United needs to execute well, hit the big shots against the best defensive opponent.

Perth has played a great game, tight D and then hit a good percentage in this 2nd half

I think overall both teams defended really well tonight. Big difference was Perth's shooting and Melbourne's offense - too much early-shot clock hero ball stuff and poor turnovers.

This series will probably go 5 games

don't know that that virgin GF ref is going to get a lot more, it did not obviously affect the outcome, but I'm certain nthat the standard of play is significantly ecceeding the ability of the officials to call it well consistently.
It crearly does diminish the enjoyment for a basketball purist, but it seems most are there for the " entertainment spectacular" so that does not really get diminished.

Not sure which is more laughable, the Ware blocking call or LV wanting Brandt to be ejected.

Casper was best player on court- stepped up offensively and defended Cotton well

But DJ barely put up a shot after his injury break, CG hit a few but nowhere near his best, McCarron restricted by foul trouble

Perth had more contributors. White stepped up in 2nd half, Brandt got the better of Boone, Kay did the little things, Wagstaff with a nice cameo. Perth's bigs got the better of Uniteds overall

Few question marks, DJ's health, and Boone has often looked less sharp in 2nd game of back to back.

It's a long series, there will be 9000 or 10000 loud fans at Hisense on Sunday, a little confidence goes a long way and I'm predicting we're back here next Friday and it's 1-1

How come Norton can never keep his feet when driving to the basket? He'll never replace Martin when Damian retires. Wildcats will get an import PG.

Will catch up on the thread in a min.

Before I read. Ain't seen nothing since half time.

Kay needs to step up.

Angus was lucky after on his "screen" against Kennedy.

Goulding is the bitch we all expected.

Casper can't be contained for long.

Cotton wasn't at his best.. look out.

T better have got motm. Easily best on court.

I'ma watch my recorded footage. But I'm happy with that despite being drunk as

LV can't use lopsided free throws as an excuse. Has to resort to pick and choosing calls to sleep better.

Well that's all she wrote folks. This series was always going to come down to who wins game 1.

The reality is the loser of tonight’s game needs to win 3 of the next 4 games with 2 of those games on the oppositions home court. Not likely.

Well played Perth Wildcats. Congratulations on your 9th Championship.

I wouldn't be so sure Paulo. Melbourne are far from done.

Great win Perth just 2 more wins needed.
Feels like an eternity since last championship.

Tigers won deciding game 3 in Perth in 93

Tiers won game 5 Sydney n 2008

Tigers swept Kings in 2006 with games 1 and 3 in Sydney

It can be done again.

But you generally need 2 things to win a championship at any level in any sport

You need to be playing at or near your best.

And you need a bit of luck, or perhaps not "luck" per se, but just the feeling of things going your way. Things need to go right for you.

Neither happened tonight. Kennedy looked dangerous in first half but got a dirty hit and was out of sorts afterwards. Last year United was "lucky" Childress went down

The series could go either way but let's be honest, Perth were better tonight.

Ever since the NZ game early in season, it's been obvious Kennnedy is super important. If he's not playing, or is playing but not right due to concussion, Perth is the favorite for game 2

On the other hand if CG43 shoots like last weekend and Boone brings his best, United wins

In other words there's plenty of water to go under the bridge, anything could happen but obviously Perth is in the box seat, thanks Captain obvious

Now even more desperate when invoking memories of the Tigers.

Seriously LV what drugs are you on? Kennedy ran into Brandt and came off second best. Nothing dirty whatsoever. Do you muppets get different vision beamed into your hobbit holes over east?

Yes the refs were horrible but anyone who thinks that was home cooking needs to check themselves into a psychiatric ward.

Just admit for once in your miserable Wildcats hating lives they the best team won.

There were some horrible calls against Perth

Screen foul n Jervis when he wasn't moving

Clean strip by Damo

United had more bad ones, like pretty much every single call on Casper Ware just to get us started, but no way were the refs the reason for the result

Perth was easily the better team, I've said that many times above

Series far from over though, United have achieved waaay too much over the past 2 seasons to write them off after a game one

30 of past 33 home games in NBL finals won by the home team. Big chance that continues this whole series if I'm being objective for a second

Big Qn mark- DJ's health

If the NBL have concussion protocols, it may prevent Kennedy from playing on Sunday.

Let's hope for DJ's wellbeing he is allowed to rest on Sunday :)

Agree LV long way to go and United are definitely good enough to turn this around. As much as I live the Cats I am not confident at all.

If DJ was that badly hurt surely they wouldn't have let him back on the floor in the second half. Milking it in my opinion just like Wagstaff did later in the game.

Melbourne lost it with turnovers, expect them to be better on Sunday.

Having McCarron in foul trouble unsettled Melbourne.

Kennedy was not the same player in the second half as he was before his injury. He will be 100% come Sunday though.

Another Perth game, another Ware charge that was called a block. He must be miffed.

Melbourne will win by 10+ on Sunday.

In AFL they are switched on with concussion protocol

But in bball concussions are rare

I wonder if, in basketball they're still stuck in the ways that every sport operated under 20 years ago- player says he's fine, goes back on

Actually it might be 10 years ago or less

United have said it was a jarred neck, and when you watch the footage, Kennedy is holding his neck pretty much straight after it happened.

One player who isn't getting a lot of love but was very important was Mitch Norton, played very well in his minutes and exploited Goulding's lack of lateral speed.

In no way was that a thug play, ffs probably rhe same people calling this a thug play that justified childress running through wagstaff with an elbow back in the day, because wagstaff set a mean screen.

Vickerman said in presser it was neck only. That's good news but could still be very sore

Video speaks for itself

As I said last night, what Brandt did was 10x worse than many of the "unsportsmanlike" fouls called these days

"Excessive, hard contact caused by a player in an effort to play the ball
or an opponent"

I'd say throwing your shoulder into someone's neck clearly meets the defn.

Enjoying this win while I can, cos United are no joke. Hard to pick a favourite moment.

Damos 1st or 2nd trey in Gouldings face?
Steindl block on Boone?
Wagstaff turning up to a game?
Terrico proving the doubters wrong?
Winning with 2 imports?
Vic media predicting a 3-0 win to United?

Don't get me wrong

I'm not saying Brandt is necessarily a dirty dog

I'm just saying that given the ridiculous soft interpretation the NBL has used in recent seasons, Brandt should be pinged, because I've seen plenty of USFs paid for less

Game 1 showed me nothing to give me reason to change my thoughts on how the series will unfold.

Perth to Win 3-2 with the home team winning every game.

Perth's brass band gives me the shits. Loud. Pompous. Overbearing.

Time to get on the brass band train, Manu.

[Winning with 2 imports?]

One is mvp level, the other a good player

[Vic media predicting a 3-0 win to United?]

Who?

Perth were favourites for the series, but pretty much everyone thought this would be a tight 4 or 5 game series

John Casey predicted 3-0, the rest of them predicted United.

And yes agree- Norton was a big influence last night

As was Wagstaff in the 3rd quarter hitting some big shots

Perth's bench contains 3 players who started for several seasons at their previous NBL teams

Plus Wagstaff who's been 6th man on 4 championship teams, and Hire who is tough as nails and a team first guy. Then Vague

Their starting 5 contains Bryce Cotton, an all NBL 1st team and Boomers PF, a good 2nd import, a 6 time DPOTY and a regular Boomers centre

People were raving about United and Sydney rosters all year but Perth's comparatively didn't get the credit it deserves

LV elite at reverse woofing

Beware Hoopsters

I feel another "ref bashing" thread coming on.

Ahaha fair call Luuuc ;-)

Only one game, both team's had shit calls but because perth won it's home cooking and if they lost then everyone will say they needed a 3rd import. Simple really.

Boone and Barlow don't look 100% and Wear is an elite player. Got abused for actually clapping when Ware hit some tough shot's.

Both team's a worthy winner's but let's take the positive in a game. Reminded me of the Perth v New Zealand tough and physical it's a grind.

Just watching the replay

McCarrons first 2 fouls he literally didn't even touch his opponent (425,1st on Cotton and 224, 1st on Kay). His 3rd late 2nd quarter was a bit clumsy, probably there but soft nonetheless

McCarrons 4th was 702 3rd qtr, rebounding foul, nothing in it

So McCarron was sitting early 3rd, after playing 11 minutes, called for 4 fouls of which only 1 was a foul

Casper had multiple incorrect fouls called against him, and another soft one where corresponding contact wasn't called on Pertg

So in other words United's best two perimeter defenders were totally screwed

Then Perth got going with 3s in the third

Those fouls won't be called tomorrow and it'll be a different ballgame

These are the little things that influence outcomes and part of the reason home teams have won 30 of the past 33 finals games

Pretty funny, Mitch gets called for a rebounding foul for brushing Martin with his pinky finger. McCarrons 4th (702, 3rd)

A minute later (601, 3rd) DJ is first to a loose ball, Martin cannons into him and knocks him flying, no call

As crowds get louder, refs favor home team. Happens more in playoffs because crowd is more involved

It's human psychology, there is no way around it. Just interesting to observe.

I'm sure same will happen tomorrow in United's favour

You are a pathetic human being LV.

So LV that would mean united get home cooking? Can't wait for your wright up after tomorrow's game. Watch the replay of how many times perth don't get a foul called.

I'm not blaming the refs for the result

It was typical playoffs basketball- the home team got the better of the reffing and got an advantage from that

Not outrageously so though- Perth had some bad calls against them too (Damo, Jervis, Kay all called for fouls that werent there)

United knows they'll need to play a ripper game to win a final in Perth. Last night they didn't play their best, so can't expect to win.

Lovebroker:

You are a pathetic human being LV.

I don't support either team.

(I just happen to hate Perth and think the sun shines out of Melbourne's ass.)

You can clearly tell Brandt is a Dirty Thug, because the video clearly shows him playing for Perth.

Obviously it was Brandt driving the car that rear-ended Kennedy and gave him the underlying neck-injury.

Deserves to be rubbed out for 4 games

Perth's bigs are really good screeners

It's an underrated part of basketball

United D loosened up in that 3rd, not quite as sharp in anticipating those screens

Presumably both teams will be a touch more fatigued tomorrow so that may continue

I expect a higher scoring game tomorrow as the offenses learn to adjust, D gets tired

[ You simply can't accept your team was outplayed in the second half]

Pretty sure I've said Perth was the better team oh...I dunno? 15 times in this thread

Learn to read

Fyi I'm a St Kilda fan

Id have a pretty tough time in life if I couldn't accept my team losing!

United relied heavily on their big 6 this season

All averaged 27+ minutes except Boone who averaged 24, which was perhaps only due to body mgmt

McCarron had to sit most of the game due to being screwed by the refs

Kennedy looked out of sorts after the incident

Barlow hasnt shown much through these playoffs

Ware was the only United player who individually had a good game, I thought.

Bottom line- after all the Xs, Os, refs, etc. Bottom line- these guys need to stand up if United is to win

I'm tipping they do and we go back to Perth 1-1

Absolutely it was as an illegal screen. No doubt whatsoever

In Perths defense, Jervis was still as a statue and was called for a moving screen

You can live with a few of those, but where it hurts you is multiple bad calls on the same person early in the game, followed by more later on same player.

Impacts rotations, strategy etc. That's what happened with McCarron

No, no, no, we must scream and shout and obfuscate, so that we can ignore the obvious...

It's clear that Kennedy hasn't recovered from the car accident, and obviously has no business being on a basketball court.
But yeah, lets blame Brandt for moving his foot.

Brandt feet were both moving, and his upper body moved across too. Made contact with defender who was in position sliding laterally

Clear foul on both real time replay and slo mo

I thought this was a basketball forum, sheesh

Sure your all trolling though so I won't bit anymore ;-)

You're* and bite*

Lv can you tell me what min and quarter goulding ran straight through damo infront of the perth bench? I would like your analysis of that incident. Also when he shortly after did the same to norton after perth scored.

From nbl.com article stating kennedy will be right for game 2 "But then his night took a turn. He turned blindly looking to go under a screen from Wildcats centre Angus Brandt, but instead went jaw first into his shoulder and the contact was flush.

While it was purely a case of him defending so intently, he didn't quite judge where Brandt was that led to the contact, it sure was a heavy blow. Kennedy went down and had to be helped from the floor and back to the locker room ahead of half-time"

Yep no one knows basketball except lv, it was a horrid screen

I agree with LV 100%. Perth were by far the better team last night.

Please excuse me, I have a rare incurable mental disorder. - For me time does not pass in a linear fashion, rather more swirly-whirly. So I am am unable to tell the difference between the past and the present.
For example I cannot tell the difference between a player who moved well prior to contact, and one who is still moving.

Furthermore my condition is exacerbated by bright primary colours, so somebody in red appears to be always moving whereas those in red always appear to be perfectly still.

I'll help you guys out(giving benefit of the doubt that some of you are serious amongst the trollers)

The screen by Brandt would've been the perfect screen.....

IF he'd landed, set his feet and then Kennedy ran into him half a second later

Except that is not what happened. Brandt was moving as Kennedy arrived.

Just for the newbies who honestly don't know the rules

Official fiba rules 2017

Rule 33.7

"Illegal screening is when the player who is screening an opponent:
 Was moving when contact occurred."


And


"If the opponent is in motion, the elements of time and distance shall apply. The screener must leave enough space so that the player who is being screened is able
to avoid the screen by stopping or changing direction."

We get stuck with Koberulz, Dazz and Perthworld here in WA but you Victorians get LV lol.

Perth played the better TEAM basketball, Melbourne were poor, and the refs screwed both teams and didn't allow the teams to settle and the game to flow due to the poor calls. Perth adjusted more quickly to that.

Perth impressed me by playing cleaner than I expected them to. Kennedy was just unlucky.

Roll on game 2, and hopefully some different (& competent) refs.

Furthermore my condition is exacerbated by bright primary colours, so somebody in red appears to be always moving whereas those in red always appear to be perfectly still.

"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink..."

Brandts body was moving, his feet were moving, and yes as the poster above says his feet were wider than his shoulders anyway

Literally everything was moving, but apparently he was perfectly stationary and therefore setting a legal screen

Just another one for the newbie learners...

"Legal screening is when the player who is screening an opponent:
 Was stationary (inside his cylinder) when contact occurred."

He wasn't stationary and his feet were outside his cylinder

Failed on both counts

We need some Braithwaite in here. Hoorsses yeeah!

Whether or not that point is correct doesn't change the fact that his whole body and his feet were moving!

Ffs someone kindly embedded the video about 15 posts up. Just watch it!!

It's really not that hard... he was moving, ie, not in position