Nunawading Spectres.

Sorry, looking at keeping to SA mainly. In terms of nbl players, is it mainly talent and individual desire, or a result of club development. An athletic 7 footer will always have a shot at next level. I'm talking about producing across the board players and coaches that have complete fundamentals and knowledge. And larger clubs will have the numbers to get the better athletes.
Maybe an example is like the Gonzaga and Villanova programs. They are getting the talent now, but for a long time they have taken the big boys on with lesser talent. So did Brad Stevens at Butler and early Celtics.

Hawthorn has been really good the past few years.

Really???

How many Hawthorn only juniors currently playing NBL/WNBL?

And now all the area produces is teen mums and criminals. What a fall from grace

SA BOYS
Sturt
North
Forestville
Norwood
West
South
Woodville
Southern
Centrals
Eastern

SA GIRLS
Forestville
Sturt
West
Norwood
North
Southern
Eastern
South
Centrals
Woodville

Boys
North
Sturt
Norwood
Centrals
Southern
Forestville
West
Eastern
South
Woodville

Girls
Forestville
Sturt
West
South
Norwood
Southern
North
Eastern
Centrals
Woodville

I think for SA any club with a full-time employee (Coaching Director) should be streaks ahead. Sturt, Norwood, Forestville, Southern & South (half the comp) have full time designated Coaching Directors.

Not Full time

North Adelaide share the position and the two gentlemen put in the equivalent of one full timer.
Centrals - Was Ricky Simpson along with his Northern Academy program, so decent pathway and development system.

Woodville - Scott Herriman is the JDO but unsure at what capacity this is?
West Adelaide - Do it by committee led by Andrew Nowak who has been involved with the club for about a decade.

Eastern - The website says Karen Williams but I am unsure of her credentials as a coach and how long she has been involved? May be a voluntary role.

Any club with a full time coaching director should be heaps ahead, but some are not because some coaching directors don't understand junior development. Some do.

How do you qualify this as well? NBL/WNBL players? Classic results? A lot of ways to determine this. Some clubs being listed here aren't even close to achieving decent results at those levels.

Centrals have a part part time coaching director, no experience, doesn't seem to have a handle on things. Ricky is there with his academy but only official capacity is as senior coach.
Here in a new was shown the door at woodville as women's coach and Jdo, was a disaster apparently.
Corey was supposed to oversee things at West, not sure if that's still the case. Girls side of things are excellent, boys are terrible.
Eastern, who has any idea what they do, some decent girls teams but boys all over the place, reflective in their senior programmes.
Sturt and north are way ahead. Norwood despite their abundance of teams are ho hum, will be interesting to see what goes on with departure of Willie and appointment of Rojo.
Southern have great structure of coaches, just not great talent. South have plenty of kids, just that most aren't that good.

There it is. Always the kids and never the coaches fault. That's the difference between success and mediocre results. Adults need to reflect and educate themselves to do better and not blame the kids and their lack of talent. I have seen clubs take an average talented group and with good game structure, hard work and constant evaluation and improvements supporting the kids above all else they have won and rose to the top. I have also seen a group of extremely talented kids constantly falter under so called great coaches that have not been able to get the best out of the kids and change nothing about their coaching and game style to help that talent come together to succeed. The difference between a good and a great club is not the perceived friendships but well thought out structure, planning and constant improvement through review and accountability. It is fluid and always evolving. Never blaming the kids.

Sturt have the largest numbers of Australian talent in NCAA div 1 women's and men’s conferences. Speaks volumes that their program has the right formula. Not a few players here and there to boast about but a constant flow of players moving from the club into good colleges, nbl development, overseas and spread across the basketball world at all levels. Every year they can put forward a list that celebrates their success beyond their club. That is rare and sits them within the top 4 clubs in Australia on paper over a long period of time. Every club has anomalies of success that are not reflective of their overall programs success and often that is to do with player size being a huge advantage, but that can not be what a club rides upon to determine their success. It’s the year in year out success across the entire club that is important and what they give back to basketball nationally and internationally. A clubs role like parents raising kids is to let their players progress beyond their community and deliver smart, fit, experienced players that can fit in to teams across the world and adapt to different competitions and coaching styles.

Good work.

Add Ben Carter to NCAA Div 1.

Boys D1
VIC 21
NSW 25
QLD 4
SA 9
WA 2
ACT 2
TAS 1

Boys D1/Pro by club

Sturt 6
Forestville 3
Norwood 3
Centrals 1
Southern 1
Eastern 1

I think D1 NCAA shows a good indicator of current trends, as pro players have done a lot of development beyond their club and it also is a very lagging indicator.

With the current U18 team at Sturt for example the recent upswing trend in player development definately does not seem like abating.

Likewise with the Forestville girls. A bunch of D1 girls starting college this coming season too.

I think you will find both;

Adam Doyle
Juliet Gordon

Both played a majority of their Basketball at Sturt.

Plus you are missing players who have played D1 ball, NBL and WNBL as well as olympics Over the past 10 years

Ie Laura Sunnerton
Jacob Holmes
Corey Maynard
Oscar Foreman
Emma Langford
Jess McPhail
Brew Farley
Monique Bowles
Caroline Nixon
Brett Maher
Claybrin McMath
Tom Daly

Sam Daly
There are more girls but I can't think of the names right now but from Sturt and yes Gordon left Sturt at 18’s and Doyle I think around the same or maybe younger. I’ll go through and have a think as there is definitely more.

Sturt Juniors that played NBLand/or development player
Jason Joynes
Brad Hill
Oscar Foreman
Jacob Holmes
Adam Doyle
Corey Maynard
Tom and Sam Daly
Drew Williamson
Jordan Dodman
Brett Maher
Jason Willians
Paul Bauer
Leigh Carlson
Jarred Wilson
Graham Kubank
Martin Barmentloo
Mathew Reece
Darren Breeding
Matthew Buck
Dean Kinsman
Andy Amberg
Karl Luke
Malcom Penno
Ian Kneebone
Mark Sykes
Paul Hyland
David Smyth

WNBL
Nicole Seekamp
Ruby Porter
Angela Marino
Laura Hodges Summerton
Bree Farley
Emma Langford
Hannah, Monique & Bridget Bowley
Caroline Nixon
Tammy Hoare
Cherie Hogg
Jane Bell
Pat Mickan
Fiona Gliddon
Leanne Mickan Winter
Deb Smyth

AIS CoE Scholarship Holders
Centre of Excellence Scholarship Holders
Elissa Brett
Alex Mudronja

Australian Institute of Sport Scholarship Holders
Lat Maye
Nicole Seekamp
Bree Farley
Claybrin McMath
Emma Langford
Jacob Holmes
Oscar Forman
Laura Summerton
Monique Bowley
Tammy Hoare
Leigh Carlson
Jared Wilson
Martin Barmentloo
Brett Maher
Cherie Hogg
Matthew Reece
Fiona Gliddon
Graham Kubank
Matthew Buck
Karl Luke

Assistant national women's coach
Scott Butler

NCAA colleges Div 1/2 TBA














Olympians
Angela Marino
John and Malcom Heard
Phil Smyth
Pat Mickan
Albert Leslie

Missed

Brett Maher
Laura Summerton Hodges

Of the olympians list there.

Sorry. Cut and paste nd missed a few. Correct and Seekamp now WNBA with Mercury I think and possibly will get a national call up.