Perthworld
Years ago
NZNBL fixure is out. See Huskies games before.
It got me thinking with it being Australia Day tomorrow and all - will the Huskies become every Aussies team in the NZNBL, thereby uniting all of Hoops during the NBL off-season?
Perthworld
Years ago
Not sure why the image link isn't working...
Manual link here: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/b9ba5196c6d1dbdc2db42ff0a/images/f4f65496-6a70-4dbb-a826-e49f620725f7.jpg
Yes they stream
https://www.nznbl.basketball/nznbl-tv/live-games/
Perthworld
Years ago
I'm thinking this is perfect off-season filler. Great that there is streaming.
does that mean Aussie players aren't imports and can play for new Zealand teams
Australian players are not imports unless they average more 7 minutes a game, ie Froling playing for Adelaide will be an import in nznbl. Very good signing may I add, they look like they have a very solid team, certainly a big chance of winning the nznbl.
Taking a long time to announce their final team I reckon.
Captain Jack
Years ago
They have their main players at this point
Froling
Billups
Muo
Nichols
Bragg
A couple of guys from last years chargers.
Waiting to see where Moller ends up minutes wise in NBL (likely over the limit) which may be impacting the next move, they may look at another NBL guy who is just under the 7.5 mins if Moller stays over.
That starting five will be to good for any nznbl team, Froling can compete in the nbl, two American import including last season starting guard, Muo proven player at that level and except for injuries at wrong time was on nbl team, plus Bragg who is certainly at this level and former nbl player. Stanwick is also a very good young player coming off the bench.
They should start favourites.
I'd say Moller won’t get near the minutes restriction so can’t see him being eligible.
paul
Years ago
Southland last year had Pledger, Te Rangi, Weeks and two decent imports. Nelson had Vukona, Delany, Heiur, Adnam and a quality import big. The Huskies starting five doesn't stand out from that.
It's not happening this season, have any of those players been announced yet other than Weeks, nbl clubs players got to be released and clubs looking after there contracted players.
AD
Years ago
"Australian players are not imports unless they average more 7 minutes a game,"
"Southland last year had Pledger, Te Rangi, Weeks and two decent imports. Nelson had Vukona, Delany, Heiur, Adnam and a quality import big."
I'm familiar with the SBL rules, and imagine most minor leagues have similar, if a player averges more than 25% game time in the NBL he's treated as restricted (subject to a few exceptions) and you can have him or an import, to a maximum of 2.
Last I heard, the NZNBL has no such rule. If you are eligible to play for NZ, then you're not restricted.
So the question has got to be what concessions if any have they given the Huskies to enable them to sign Australians on a similar basis.
The problem for the NZNBL is obvious. They treat Australians as imports because they don't want us (with our much larger population) filling up their league. In offering any concession to the Huskies, the problem is magnified. Last thing they want to see is an NBL-Boomers team playing in their league.
The 7.5 minute rule given to the Huskies is an interesting compromise.
All teams can now have 3 imports or restricted players, so whilst their starting 5 will probably not match the best, they should be able to field some great depth.
Froling was possibly an early announcement? Before his minutes went up?
You would think that NBL teams would be eager to get their young developing players into the NZNBL via the Huskies.
Hobart clearly thought they were allowed four imports in there first press conference as they said they were on the way to signing Craig Moller, but with Froling and two American imports signed seems like Moller is either playing for Hobart huskies or else where, I've try to follow but seen nothing. This is tough for Hobart as nznbl can load up with lots players trying to get to Wellington under Henare in a World Cup year. Hobart will still be very formidable and will make finals and could take it out.
Hobart Huskies won't be competitive in the New Elite competition.
7.5 minutes is a joke. Anyone playing less than that is a spud. The rules used to be just over a quarter of a game. IE. approx 12mins. A deliberate act I reckon to keep the likes of Moller out of that side.
AD
Years ago
Why do people insist on sprouting shit, when the actual facts are literally right in front of them?
"7.5 minutes is a joke. Anyone playing less than that is a spud."
What do you suggest? This still gives them exclusive access to around 25~30 players. Players who are in fat a decent standard relative to the league.
"The rules used to be just over a quarter of a game. IE. approx 12mins"
Nope, they never had any such rule.
"Hobart clearly thought they were allowed four imports in there first press conference as they said they were on the way to signing Craig Moller, but with Froling and two American imports signed"
Perhaps at the time they thought Froling and/or Moller would scrape under the limit??
Captain Jack
Years ago
Yea I dare say they thought they could have both Froling and Moller and 2 Americans, and given the choice between the Aussies chose Froling who is the better of him and Moller, so fair call, and if Mollers minutes drop enough (unlikely) they will seek to add him.
Else they could probably sign Moller or another NBL guy as an import to the Hobart Huskies and have him fill in for the Southern Huskies if Froling misses games with NBA try out camps etc, which is probably likely.
Southern Huskies going to make game night a hoot!
https://www.facebook.com/WINNewsTasmania/videos/735780676795146/
Cheerleaders on the way, Mascot, Jumbotron and more.
KET
Years ago
Are Huskies fielding 2 teams, 1 for NZNBL and 1 for NBL1?
Dave Marshall
Years ago
Yep - men's and women's for NBL1 (under the name of Hobart Huskies) and men's in the NZ NBL.
Huskies now have their brand disp look acted on the big screen at the Hobart Airport luggage carousel!!! Pretty sure that would be a first anywhere in Oz?
Sorry. Frikkin autocorrect on a mobile.
Huskies now have their brand displayed on the big screen at the Hobart Airport luggage carousel!!! Pretty sure that would be a first anywhere in Oz? I also hear there might be another 5 locations for more large signage to come.
Perthworld
Years ago
Nope. Wildcats have signage all over Perth in various formats.
Inside the airport? I many have done it on buses, bushelters etc..
Twinkletoes
Years ago
Taipans used to have a large photo inside the airport near the luggage carousel
Tim Paine announced as The Southern Huskies #1 ticket holder.
Really Perthworld?
Nobody important, just our Aussie cricket captain
I agree: it's cricket, so definitely nobody important.
Perthworld
Years ago
I know, I was replying to #736091's shock at me not knowing a cricketer.
Double page colour promo for the Southern Huskies in The Mercury today.
Huskypup
Years ago
Husky TV 1st episode very well done.
https://www.facebook.com/southernhuskiesbasketball/videos/2301080350129700/
Perthworld
Years ago
It would be sweet if Huskies tear all of NZ a new one.
If the huskies got 4th or 5th would be good result. Get your mercury tomorrow folks.
The side they will put on the floor will be a far better side than last years SEABL Champions. Equally the competition is a lot higher as well.
What is the side, not convinced the side will be better, it'll be tougher as nznbl stronger as well.
NOt sure why there would be anything in The Mercury today. The Southern Huskies team hasn't been assembled in Hobart yet.
Some players arrive on Monday and then there will be a lot of publicity I am sure.
The assembled team should be very competitive in the NZBL and I would think be in finals for sure.
Expect some surprising player announcements.
If they make finals it will be an over achievement, Wellington saints, Nelson giants, South land sharks, Taylor bay hawks will all be very strong plus rangers and rams super competitive, then if you add on all the flying, back to back games in NZ plus time difference, I don't see it. What it will do is get the club set up for a better future from management to coaches to players.
So how does that time difference affect the current NBL Champions or any team from the West? Or any team frnm the East going to WA? Never heard so much shit.
Yes, you beat me to it. Utter BS. Certainly the travel that the NZBL has conjured up won't help. IE. 3 games in 4 days. But great teams take on those challenges head on and WIN.
Marcel Jones just announced by the Southern Huskies.
Massive signing. Now a 'local'.
NIchols, Billups, import and Marcel. NOt bad eh.
I'm hearing the big signing is yet to come and stu has worked very hard to make it happen, not confirmed yet though.
Anon
Years ago
With the massive Jones signing, looking less and less like there is a spot in the Southern Huskies for Muo.
Jones will be competent but at his age now no world beater, huskies will be up against it, Weeks and McCarron are the guards for Southland, don't think Nichols is at that standard. Not many clubs are successful in their first seasons as they set there clubs up, don’t see any difference with the huskies.
Anon
Years ago
Billups/Jones would appear to be a lock on 3/4 between them.
Thought Muo would play 3 until Jones signing.
Muo could run off the bench I suppose however the Huskies have Nichols, Michaels, Bragg and Masunda in the guard roles announced already. Muo would not be effective at this level in the 4 spot, particularly defensively.
That would seem to leave a bits and pieces bench role remaining for Muo.
As Muo was about the first announced Huskies big signing it is doubtful that is why he was recruited.
didnt the huskies also sign brian michaels?
A bit of a perth connection happening with Bragg, Michaels, Muo, Billups and Nichols all playing in the SBL and or the Perth Wildcats at some point
Anonymous
Years ago
Definite Perth connection it would seem.
Agree, the Huskies will likely struggle big time.
Unproven guards at this level.
Who is replacing Froling?
Who are the bench bigs?
Muo played for South Sudan, he's probably there third import, as previously noted by others they will struggle but be competitive.
Some people are simply idiots.
Muo is an Aussie. Der, a Perth connection. I wonder why. Froling will be replaced by an import.
FFS sake Bragg is a Tasmanian, didn't you know that? Muo is based in Brisbane and this will be his 3rd season in Hobart. Are there any points you raise that are valid? NO.
A starting 5 of Tre, Muo, Jones, Billups and import will give the NZBL a serious shake.
If you don't know "Who is replacing Froling? + Who are the bench bigs?" You really don't know at all.
Nznbl class Muo as an import, go to his wiki page, he played for South Sudan. Maybe you should check your facts, Hobart will probably try and work around it but even look at his interview today on there site and he says he doesn't think he’s an import but has been judged as one. If you think that side will do well in nznbl you got no idea. Fourth at best which would be a good result.
Have I missed something? Why isn't Froling playing?
Anonymous
Years ago
Froling is chasing the NAB or the NBA is chasing him- been in the general and social media.
Bragg is obviously a Tasmanian who also was on Wildcats roster for a short time - hence the Perth connection there.
WSocial media has it Nichols may be delayed?
Muo played for South Sudan - don't reckon SEABL knew about that or if they did overlooked it. NZ may not do the same. May be he is out on that basis hence the recruiting around/over him. Makes sense.
Maybe if the NZBL had all the rules in place well before now would help.
Equally the NBL1 group won't allow any player to switch between competitions.
Why is it also that all of the KIWI players that play above 7.5 minutes in the NBL aren't classified as Imports?
Rules for some and rules to suit the rule makers.
Anonymous
Years ago
Seems pretty simple.
Somewhat understandably the NZ rule makers are happy to accept the Southern Huskies money and all the publicity that will go with them being created from nothingness and then walking all over Hobart's basketball scene BUT NZ do not want or need the Southern Huskies to be overly competitive.
No thank you, not by a long shot.
If you understand New Zealand then there is only community back lash to be had from an accepting an Aussie Team and them cleaning up.
The rules might be crap on eligibility in the nznbl but were known, huskies should have known them and worked there team within the rules. If Froling out the five spot will be a major problem without someone his size playing the five.
Yes I hear they are being given a lot of grief. With the recent rules changes they will get a lot more from the Aussies I am sure.
John
Years ago
This may have been discussed already, but why exactly are the Huskies entering two teams in two separate competitions being run at essentially the same time ?
Was it because the NBL1 took so long to launch ?
Seems odd that an organization trying to enter the top tier spreads itself so thin ?
Thanks to David Barlett capitulating and closing down the Chargers, the owners of the Southern Huskies decided to take on the extra 2 Chargers teams rather than let them have no elite competition to play in.
Pretty simple really.
The NZBL season is a short and sharp one with a massive load of talent. The NBL1 team is a reiteration of the seasbl - 2 teams + 4 new ones. Their season runs a lot longer.
All games across all competitions live streamed too.
Harry Froling is officially out of the Huskies team.
He's off to the USA for NBA trials and workouts etc. Sad but not unexpected news.
https://www.facebook.com/southernhuskiesbasketball/videos/843193049350666/
I have a nickname.
Years ago
Craig Moller just announced as a fantastic signing.
paul
Years ago
"Why is it also that all of the KIWI players that play above 7.5 minutes in the NBL aren't classified as Imports?"
Because players from NZ are locals in the NZ NBL.
This is the Southern Huskies thread. So Southern Huskies
Moller was chased by a few nznbl clubs but was patient as Hobart always wanted him, they just got their import restriction rules wrong. Should be a good signing for Hobart but they will still be mid table, like the nbl, the nznbl is getting a lot stronger, great for basketball down in this part of the world.
Good article in The Mercury today on Moller arriving. Huskies recruiting isn't over yet.
Good interview with Moller on the huskies Facebook page, said he's glad to be back and going through offers from nbl clubs. Mentions how he believes the competition will be a lot stronger than last season as well.
Ron
Years ago
As the end of the NBL season showed Moller is no Harry Froling...but a decent pickup nonetheless.
The Huskies still have not announced any bench forwards so there is surely more to be heard in that space.
Word is Muo is definitely out too.
Froling is a great loss, but he's a five occasionally four where Moller is a three stretch four, apples and oranges. They do need to find a five man though even if it’s just to clog up the paint.
Muo out cannot play as local as played for South Sudan - ineligible for tall blacks and boomers
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