Spain and France are in decline.
Spain getting very old. Gasol is 38. His brother is turning 34.
France has gobert but not a stellar supporting cast. Lauvergne, batum, de colo, ntilkina. Good but not aus level.
AngusH
Years ago
We have the talent to be, but I think we will always be susceptible to teams who are used to playing together. With so many guys in the NBA, reality is our core guys will spend a less time together on the court than a lot of other nations prior to the world cup/Olympics.
The big up and comer is Germany in both men and women.
Schroeder
Bonga
Theis
Kleber
Wagner
Hartenstein
Lots of guys in Europe and lots of young prospects.
Melbourne Boy
Years ago
Canada has the second best talent, but never get everyone playing.
I mean let's not get too carried away but if they are rolling and they catch USA on a bad night I guess they could yeah
Spain still a powerhouse:
Abrines
Calderon
Gasol
Gasol
Hernangomez
Hernangomez
Ibaka
Mirotic
Rubio
France:
Ajinca
Batum
Fournier
Luwawu-Cabbarot
Mahinmi
Noah
Ntilkina
Okobo
Parker
Yabusele
A good starting five for Serbia too:
Bjelica
Bogdanovic
Jokic
Marjanovic
Teodosic
Canada
Murray/Pangos/Joseph
Barret/Stauskas/Gilgeous-Alexander
Wiggins/Jackson/Brooks
Powell/Lyles/Wiltjer
Olynyk/Thompson/Boucher
Greece
Calathes/Mantzaris/Sloukas
Dorsey/Larentzakis/T.Antetokoumpo
G.Antetokoumpo/Papanikolau/Papapetrou
Printezis/K.Antetokoumpo/Mitoglou
Bourousis/Koufous/Papagiannis
"The big up and comer is Germany in both men and women.
Schroeder
Bonga
Theis
Kleber
Wagner
Hartenstein"""
lets be real this team aint gonna do shit LOL
Curtley
Years ago
Thank god Yugoslavia divided into 8 (or maybe more) countries (wars, destruction and death aside obviously). They'd be easily second best right now if all those states played together.
Also amazing to think it wasnt that long ago that Lithuania was part of the USSR and USSR's best players were Lithuanian for a long time when they have a tiny population.
Is team USA's second (and potentially third) best lineup available still better than the second best international team? Im going second yes and third probably.
We lost by 10 but that was the BS Boomers. Before Simmons.
Melbourne Boy
Years ago
USA 3rd team would be comparable to the other good teams, but not a guaranteed medal. USA 2nd team would get silver.
aussie team in 2020
Simmons
mills
ingles
Bolden
baynes
Exum
delly
adel
broekoff
thon maker
Mathiang
bogut
Positions
Simmons 1/4
Mills 2/1
Ingles 3/2
Bolden 4/5
Baynes 5/4
Exum 1/2
NBL guard (Sobey, Mccarron, Gliddon Goulding etc) 2/1
Broekhoff 3/2
Maker 4/5
Bogut 5
Dellavedova 1/2
Adel 3/2
Baynes/Bogut primary centres. Maker or Bolden can fill in at centre also.
No need for a Landale, Mathiang or Humphries, only when bogut retires.
Our issue is the guard position, could be one of several nbl players. Sobey, mccarron, gliddon, Goulding etc
UseTaHoop
Years ago
"Baynes/Bogut primary centres. Maker or Bolden can fill in at centre also"
Boomers won't be able to rely on Bogut for more that bball smarts, leadership and minor minutes in tournament play. Barnes primary centre. Need another primary centre who can also play pf. Bolden could play centre in a small ball lineup. Maybe Maker is the answer, but I’d pick 1 more specialist centre who can also play pf.
MACDUB
Years ago
It's too hard to answer given teams don't play against each-other often enough (and not at full strength).
The only real games that Australia play are those within their FIBA zone; and friendlies against European teams/South American teams are basically out of the question (we'd only play them at the WC or Olympics really).
What I would say is that teams ranked 2 - 12 (roughly) could probably beat each other on any given day.
Too hard to say Australia are #2 definitively.
But I would certainly have them in that Tier B without a doubt. i.e.
Tier A = USA (on their own)
Tier B = Seriba, Slovenia, Spain, France, Australia and a few others
..
Phil
Years ago
As for the poster talking about USA 3rd stringers being favourites I disagree
Most of the best nba talls are from outside USA
Their first string team probably includes Davis Jordan cousins
2nd string Aldridge Drummond and millsap
3rd string?
Monroe lol?
I might be missing some names but their 3rd string talls would be smashed in international competition
USAs depth is in wing and ph positions
Phil
Years ago
Ah just remember towns griffin green and Myles turner some USA bigs I forgot
Still that 3rd string ain't walking over the second best team as per posters claim.
Phil
Years ago
Looking at our lineup the biggest concern is we have lots of excellent players and lots who can stuff the stat sheet but we don't have a scoring tyro
The closest is mills who can gets buckets at Int level but I would love to have a real 25ppg scorer on that team.
A stab a 3 US teams:
1st
Curry
Harden
Lebron
Durant
Davis
Westbrook
Thompson
Kawhi
George
Cousins
Oladipo
Griffin
2nd
Kyrie
Lillard
Beal
Draymond Green
Horford
Booker
Paul
DeRozan
Aldridge
Drummond
Walker
Covington
3rd
Lowry
McCollum
Zion Williamson
Millsap
Whiteside
Wall
Mitchell
Butler
Middleton
Myles Turner
Brook Lopez
Bledsoe
There is a lot of PG depth in the American ranks (Marcus Smart, Jrue Holiday miss out) but with the way the game has evolved, high IQ Euro bigs are much more effective than they used to be and the US suffers badly in the front court as you move away from their best lineup. Not hard to see someone like Jaren Jackson Jr in that third squad sooner rather than later. And yes I'd have Zion there today.
That third team has enough talent to compete with anyone internationally, but how good they are would depend on chemistry and buy-in. I don't think they'd go into Worlds or Olympics as the gold medal favourites. But I don't think there's a single player on that US 3rd team who wouldn't make the Boomers A team.
anonymous
Years ago
I would think that at least winning a medal at some kind of world event would be the first step to claiming to be second best in world...
By 2020 guys like Bogut, Delly won't be up to it on world stage.
Some young guys coming up like Froling, Statman etc
Not sure the style that Boomers run is correct tho. We always seem to just get past the smaller nations in qualifying rounds and then get found out against the more powerful teams.
It's 2019 already. Delly will be 29 in 2020, not exactly turning 34 and really starting to slow down. He'll be two years younger in 2020 than Joe Ingles is now. I find the notion that Delly is done absolutely crazy. He would destroy Stattmann, who can't even get on the court in college.
Stattmann, Josh Green, both Frolings, Grida, McDowell-White, Deng Adel, yes there's a ton of young guys coming through but this board is relentlessly premature in selecting them to hypothetical Boomers teams.
#527
Don't try and bring sense into this board, that’s not how it works. You are 100% correct though.
future boomers? (95'-00' born)
Pg 96' Ben Simmons 6'10 / 95' Dante Exum 6'6 / 98' William McDowell White 6'5
Sg 00' Josh Green 6'6 / 98' Daniel Grida 6'6
Sf 96' Deng Adel 6'7 / 97' Jack White 6'7
Pf 97' Thon Maker 7'1 / 96' Jonah Bolden 6'10 / 95' Xavier Cooks 6'8
C 95' Jock Landale 6'11 / 98' Isaac Humphries 7'0
"yes there's a ton of young guys coming through but this board is relentlessly premature in selecting them to hypothetical Boomers teams."
so true.
I wouldn't have thought so. No... absolutely not
Froling is twice the player Humphriies is, Humphries so overrated on the board.
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