Saw it over a month ago yet got shot down by everyone for wanting changes.

Said it*

I never specifically said third import, just that something needed to be done.

It's too late to be worried now. It's over.

Worried isn't the right word.
If Perth do indeed miss out I hope Gleeson is first to go.

Shocking dereliction of duty by head office, two seasons running.

It sucks but I was right, the club have been exposed - they sat on their hands hoping to ride it out, it's kind of worked since the deadline is nearly here so no doubt some of the blind faithful will take it down their throats.

This just in - Homicide coming to Perth on Sunday!

Gleeson is only good with funding $$$, never rated him. Hopefully gone which will be a positive from this.

Infinite amount of years in a row which Perth have made the finals has created an unbecoming fan base

Relax, Perth are in a good position, and if Perth fans aren't provided with their god given right of a finals berth the world will not - repeat - will not end

I don't think so

Can't say they didn't spend up in the off-season - Kay and Norton were expensive but smart moves. Maybe too much reliance on Wagstaff and Hire carrying through another year.

I actually come out looking good from all this as I predicted what would happen at the beginning of the losing streak despite being heavily criticised. The true believers who accepted all the BS from the club will be shattered though, correct.

:)

KET I'm not losing my shit.

Been a member for nrly 2 decades.

I think we will make finals still. Don't deserve too. But still think we will

No need for 3rd import, shots ain't dropping, having good looks it's a confidance thing now. Only so much gleeson can do.

They just need a win to get back on track, luckily everyone else keeps losing as well.

Was at the game tonight, no air con and my wife and 5 year old getting abused for wearing a wildcats Jersey absolutely disgusting. Calling 36ers tomorrow.

No EFTPOS, no PG AND no air con?

Hey it's flogging a dead horse but I agree with @Perthworld here and did from day 1. Maybe a third import doesn’t change anything but you don’t think it’s worth rolling the dice right now?

"I never specifically said third import, just that something needed to be done."

You may as well say it. It's not like they are going to pick up Simmons, Bolden, Dellavedova, Mills, etc.. other than another import what option do they legitimately have? I would go a real nasty 4 man about 6’9 in size with length and athleticism who can shoot the 3 and handle and defend the 5 spot for 5-10 mins a contest. Bring him off the bench to play with the we one unit for the next 2-3 games the start:

Cotton, White, Kay, New import and Brandt. Can pound inside the smaller teams and play run n gun with the speedier teams like Adelaide. A Josh Childress type would be perfect

What Cat's for life said is disappointing. I wouldn't be happy if my wife or children were treated like that.

Being an expat kiwi I took them over to Auckland and we were treated well by Breakers fans despite being in our Wildcats gear.

* with the second unit for the typo :)

I'm disappointed too CFL. There were a row of empty seats in front of me and with a good view. I would have invited you up if I had seen your post during the game. You would not have been abused.

Re A/C, I believe it is the original evaporative system, works ok on hot dry days but not so well on days like today.

#981 maybe nit but he isn't available.. that type of player and it may not make difference but right now it’s like they are at the casino, started with $500, were up $1000 but are down to their last $50. Worth a long shot straight up on the roulette table and maybe a miracle turnaround because if they stand pat it isn’t happening.

Funny thing is Wagstaff in an interview during the week (for his 300th) said in Dec 2016 the Cats were way down the standings and won the Championship- he forgot to mention they right then picked up a great import (Cotton) who just happened to be the difference. 45 points in game 3 of the grand finals was one hell of a difference as well as the fact he got them there.

This thread is about Perth potentially missing playoffs I think it will go into meltdown if Perth officially miss them.

And potentially 97% chance they miss it because another on this forum said it and I agree

^^^ I'm shocked you're a cock head

Ok as atrocious as the Wildcats are playing and bloody oath they certainly are, that doesn't mean that we as fans and members shouldn't go absolutely ballistic the whole game vs Melbourne... we have a right to be angry as we all pay for overpriced seats with overpriced beverages and food... but we normally get to see a win.

That's not the case right now and we aren't getting value for money. For those wondering about the Taipans game; we are never loud vs them as there is too many ex Wildcats in that squad and we were basically moaning with the occasional laughter until the last couple of minutes of the game when it got closer.

We should be doing better than that and if Wildcats still suck, then a boycott is an idea.

I hope Gleeson stays because he's crap. He inherited a championship team and had his success from Bevos creation. He was lucky the 36ers lost to Bevos Hawks a few years back when they had Randle too.

Two of those years they lost stars to season-ending injuries, the third they got within something like five points of the championship. They were never far off.

"Can't say they didn't spend up in the off-season - Kay and Norton were expensive but smart moves. Maybe too much reliance on Wagstaff and Hire carrying through another year."

I think Isaac's right there.

We can’t know for sure, but I think Wildcats management decided to make those 2 the “big spend” for season 2018/19. I suspect that coaching staff entered the season knowing that there would be no more funds available to buy new players during the season.

Kay and Norton are an investment for the future, but the ageing bench contributors haven’t been able to get enough done. Perth looked good in early season, but struggling now others have topped up.

Yeah, I don't think that you can fault where Perth have spent their cash this season... Norton, Kay and Cotton, it's just that their support staff hasn't really been up to scratch...

Silver lining, at least next season we might get to see what it's like with Matty as a head coach? And it might be good for Cats fans to have an off season and have their playoff streak end... start fresh, test the team a bit and see what they can do...

Further to Kay & Norton being future investments:
what length are their contracts;
when are Jarvis, Wagstaf and Vague out of contract? We can't know what $ they’re on, but that figure will be free when they’re off contract.

Is Martin continuing, and if so does his contract include a set payment for next season?
If he’s off contract, he’d still be worth keeping for veteran leadership and reduced minutes, and might be amenable to earning a lesser amount that would be included in the lowest 5 salaries. Again, this would free up $ for an improved roster next season.

With Phoenix in next season, Perth could be in a very good position if Kay and Norton are signed for a few seasons, because Australian talent will be harder and more expensive to sign.

"Agree with UTH"

I might have to change my id to UseTaHooper. Then I can really be just 1 UTHer opinion. Cause that's all we are.

With no cap, why would they cry poor? They've had monster crowds and charged up for tickets. They'd have serious profits from recent years.

I think they've sat on their hands for reasons other than budget. I imagine the thinking is that an incoming import isn't going to take minutes from Kay, Norton, Cotton, White, Martin, maybe Brandt. So what role would they have available? A lot of modern basketball is having a well-drilled roster that knows the plays inside out. You'd be betting against Wagstaff and Hire who would know their plays as well as anyone - that's been a part of their success over the years. Whatever a new scorer brings, they may undo with rocking the boat or missing defensive assignments.

I'd say they're erring on the side of "we can turn this around with incremental changes" rather than a bigger gamble.

Party outside Brisbane Convention and Entertainment Centre when Perth fails to make playoffs. DJ Manu taking requests.

So far I've got:

David Bowie -- Dancing in the streets
Kool & the gang -- Celebration

Regrettably I'm another that has been proven correct. Worrying signs have been there for some time.

As for those trotting out the same old piffle "3rd import wouldn't have made a difference" kindly just stop typing and smack yourself upside the head.

Last night wasn't a bad game. And if it was just a matter of dropping a road game to Adelaide, amongst a sea of victories, there wouldn't be a problem. Problem is, that was our Best game for some time.

The problem is that we have so many guys playing injured, and our backups just aren't there.
3rd import? With Kay and Brandt injured, Jervis struggling, and Wagstaff checking out Retirement Villages, you think a decent big would go astray?

I just hope we can maintain the streak.

I wonder if perhaps Perth Management were caught by surprise by their early success? Because it seems that all along they have treated this as a rebuilding year.

I don't understand why people are calling for Gleeson's head?
If we can resign the guys we want on limited dollars and free up some salary for 2 more decent imports, we're looking very good for next season. Especially if me get the right Next-Star player, and decent DP.

The streak ending would hit the budget they're so worried about. Would be quite apt IMO.

Wagstaff checking out Retirement Villages

@ Cats for life, that sucks, but I'm not surprised. I lived in Adelaide for 2 years and haven't never experienced as much racism as I did over there. I remember going to an Eagles vs Power game and Eagles won, as I was leaving some dude said to me, "what would you know about football anyway, you're Asian". One of many experiences over there compared to a relatively racist free life time here in Perth.

Never said Adelaide was MORE racist than Perth, said it's the place I've personally experienced the most racism. Shame that it happened, otherwise my experience in Adelaide was fantastic.

Back on topic...we should be very worried, especially if no brutal changes are made prior to next season.

@Manu, maybe add "Dead Cat x3" by Grinspoon to your playlist...

Chairman, great find. The fact that it's a terrible song makes it even better for this purpose

Manu

Stray cat strut by Stray Cats
Stray cat blues by Rolling Stones
The little things in life (the Dead Cat Song) by Kennedy's kitchen

Or could you edit London Wainwright III’s classic "Dead skunk in the middle of the road"? (“And it’s stinking to high heaven”).

good news for Cairns since they seem to love dumpster diving outside the cats office

UseTaHoop, that's beautiful. Added to the list.

Also thinking of the classic 'Cats in the cradle no more silver spoon'

Even if we scrape in fourth spot we won't make impact in finals.
A cleanout is necessary.

Well, I heard Wildcats will be chasing Terrico, Cotton, and Devondrick Drew for 2019/2020.

I still remember being slammed on here for having the audacity to claim that the Wildcats had had a pretty easy run of games while they had their injury troubles.

In hindsight its bizarre how different those Wildcats teams looked while missing key guys, regardless of who they played against.

I got the impression of Joey Wright being a Terrico White fan.......

usually you worry about refs only

"*googles every song title that mentions cats

I love jokes!"

Actually the only song from the google search was by Kennedy's kitchen. It sounds lame. I was pretty confident that the Dead Kennedy’s would have a song about dead cats, but alas. The others are all classics, but I like the idea of “a dead cat, lying in the middle of the road/ and it’s stinking to high heaven.”

BTW London Wainwright III performed a couple times on MASH, and is Rufus and Martha’s Dad.

I love Bob Dylan ' Cat's in the well '
( and Catfish )

Wasn't there a song "The year of the cat" in the 70s???

Or was it just a line from a song??

That’d be good for irony value

He might look close to done but Wagstaff has no intention of retiring anytime soon. In an interview for his 300th game on the NBL's website he said he's only 32 even though a lot of people assume he's older and he intends to play for a few more years yet.

"it's by al stewart and year of the cat is the name. don't get it mixed up with year of the flamin' useless cats by alf stewart."

LOL

Kay & Norton were a bargain at 150k a head. Considering the 9/10000 bums on seats Perth have the resources to throw more than enough cash to secure almost anyone they like.
We all love Cotton but like all super stars from the USA scouting reports are limiting him unlike any previous season
Wagstaff in a Boomers Jersey under Leumanis played well. Can only guess why he underperforms under Gleeson's direction. Hire is yesterday.
As Hawks supporter we can, along with Cairns only lament our financial inadequacies and pray that both teams will turn up each year. You should too instead of navel gazzing .

Adelaide and Brisbane are definately the 2 form teams. The Wildcats are seriously looking over their own shoulders with very twitchy ring holes right now.