I guess he cuts into Pineau's minutes at the 5 behind Bogut. *shrug*

Looks like an undersized rebounder which is OK for the limited role he should play. Hopefully at the very least he has the length to contest on post ups on D, which is Pineau's biggest issue at the 5.

Good on Sydney for utilizing the import spot.
Gives more depth at back up bugs.

Sydney are doing what Perth should be doing.

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He will be better than Accouth so its an upgrade and a smart decision, always always always get the best 11 players you can afford.

He would be cheap so no one should be expecting MVP from him.

22p 11r in SEABL, 9p 6r in NCAA usually translates to something along the line of 8p 5r or better in the NBL if he gets enough minutes.

Aslong as he hustles and helps on the boards he is ok, and again he wont be worse than Accouth so even if he inst great its an upgrade.

4th import. Great, another average import to take the place of Australians getting court time. A great time for Australian basketball.

Definitely feel bad for Accouth especially after they filmed the announcement that he'd earnt a full contract before the season began. Didn't really show a lot though in limited minutes. Worth a flyer from someone like the Hawks or Taipans though.

Turner's fine as a signing.

Will be reasonably-priced and at the least will add starch to Sydney's bench rotation in terms of scoring/rebounding.

Turner has put up impressive numbers in lower leagues here he can't be much worse then David Wear and certainly no worse than Deng Acouth who was giving the Kings nothing.

As per crams point, if the Kings win do we have to put an asterisk next to it? By my count they have 6 foreign born players now.

Acouth wasn't an Australian anymore than Lisch is. I'd rather 10 imports on the Kings if that's what makes them entertaining and moreso a winning side.

I hope this signing cuts Bowen's minutes as well as shelving Pineau.

Why the asterisks ?
Sydney are not breaking any rules are they?
Lisch is naturalized and Bowen is a next star player.

NZ cut a local player late last year to make room for Rakeem Christmas I don't recall any backlash then.

Have to agree that having five americans is pretty close to legally cheating.

Stats are stats, but here are Pineau's up against Turner;

http://websites.sportstg.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&pID=203573465&client=1-3363-126354-478980-16890001 (PINEAU)

http://websites.sportstg.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&pID=204645947&client=1-3363-36738-478980-4362805 (TURNER)

At least Turner has a chance to score, Pineau's scoring numbers even at that level are very low. Surprised they even brought him back.

A great signing ???????????? he is playing in SEABL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How is a player from SEABL going to be huge in NBL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shawn Redhage was playing SEABL before NBL and turned out OK

I dont think anyone is saying its a star or huge signing

Its a great signing as its an upgrade on their roster, as he is likely better than Accoth and Pinau, which gives them a nice upgrade on their roster and front court rotation by bringing Turner in for Acouth.

Who of Randle, Bowen and Wear is leaving? Or are you allowed 4 imports now?

Mark Davis came from local adelaide metro league, 6'6" 95kgs.

"At least Turner has a chance to score, Pineau's scoring numbers even at that level are very low. Surprised they even brought him back."

When the Kings finished last season very strong, on the back of their defence improving a heap, Pineau played a really important role in that as a big who could defend the on-ball, it was a no brainer to bring him back.

Pineau was basically the Moller of last season - a bright patch down the stretch of what was an otherwise disappointing year. I think he has a place in the NBL and I like his energy, but he shouldn't be playing the 5 spot and really needs to develop a jumper to get more minutes.

Yep, and if he is playing the 5 spot it needs to be with a PF who can defend and rebound.

They should be called the foreign legion as Sydney don't really like Australian Born Talent!

Turner is better than Pineau who is lucky to be in the league and is Vic Elite level at best!

Acouth isn't NBL standard so hence was lucky to get a contract at all so back to the state league to work on his game and hopefully he can contribute more in the coming years at NBL level.

Whoever that anon poster is that compared this to the Jackson signing from a few years back is spot on... Though this time, with the Kings right up the top of the ladder, how does cutting one bloke & replacing him with another affect the vibe & chemistry with the group. My guess is this will end poorly.

Maybe if the sub rotations were a little smarter they wouldn't need a '7th' (jokes) import.

I wish more teams backed and developed their local young talent like Bevo & Joey.

Wow.. hats off to the Kings for leaving no stone unturned on their quest for a title. Turner will be fine in the nbl for the role they have him pegged to play. I saw him play sbl a few years ago and whilst it is a fair difference in the level of play his size, skill and talent should translate to the higher level. He killed in sbl but was like a man amongst boys

I would love it if Cairns snapped him up

Wow.. hats off to the Kings for leaving no stone unturned on their quest for a title.

"Don't like how Bowen counts as a local though - no problem with next stars program but non Aussies should count as imports."

Failing to grasp the whole concept of the Next Stars program.

Then again, the NBL's own implementation of Next Stars hasn’t demonstrated understanding of the program either.

Sounds like he will fill a role adequately, in resting Bogut. Hopefully for Sydney he just brings all his energy for 10 min and they don’t have the massive drop in D when Bogut rests.

"Who of Randle, Bowen and Wear is leaving? Or are you allowed 4 imports now?"

Hendo - teams are now allowed five imports. They can have 3 "normal" imports plus one Asian player rule import (subject to NBL approval, which is based on size of potential TV market) and one Next Stars player. Bowen is a Next Stars player and Kings have no Asian player rule import at the moment, so Turner becomes their third "normal" import.

However, signing Turner means the Kings can only count one local player as a marquee player for luxury tax calculation purposes (tries but fails to stifle laughter).

The league really should be renamed the Multinational Basketball League.

"Turner was a very dominant seabl player and those saying he wont be any good clearly have never seen him play."

Hire was double doubling in the WA SBL with big numbers...so...

"Just shows you how bad that comp is."

And you're saying any other state league is any better? Doubt it.

A shame for Acouth. Didn't really get a fair shake imo.

Sydney have not broken any rules.

And you're saying any other state league is any better? Doubt it

Umm.. most of them actually but not all

Turner played two seasons in QBL with Rockhampton, one of which they won the championship.

"WASBL is well below QBL and last years SEABL"

Fair enough.

"I guarantee you that before the season is over, he will be cutting into David Wear's minutes and playing a significant role for a contending team.“

I hope you're underselling him there.

Pineau is poopoo - can't shot, can't defend apart from making some chicken wing arm movements, foul, then sweeping his hair to one side. No other NBL team will have him.

Anon, is that you Poopoo Pineau? 2 posts ?... Double poopoo.

"Pineau was basically the Moller of last season".

Hahahahaha. Pineau is poopoo, and is only there because of Gaze's connection.

Moller can jump, shoot and defend.

Once again Melbourne has pinched the right player and the right coach.

Agreed Moller is an excellent player. I guess it's a case of Jeff Wrong Again!!

Jurlina is absolutely not an equal player to Wilson. What a sickening and uneducated assessment. Moller is also average but superior to Pineau.

Hard works pays off for new Sydney Kings import Ray Turner

I don't see why people rave about Moller although it would be interesting to see how he would go at a Cairns or Illawarra.

Moller is a rotation guy who can cover a few different positions reasonably well. Still not a great individual defender or a reliable shooter, but I think a very useful 7th or 8th man. Not sure how accurate my "source" is, but apparently the Kings made what they thought was a reasonable offer of 2 years for about 80k, and Melb threw and extra year and an extra 20-30K on top to secure him.

Upset that we lost him, but it feels like Melbourne overpaid based on his usage, too.

I missed that mention but it makes sense that Heal and Lackovic are boys. Like two peas in a pod those two.

Most SEABL players are bar staff or car salesmen or DJs playing basketball on the side. It should not be taken seriously.

You sure Lackovic isn't paying Heal for the plug? Wouldn’t surprise me

Who is Chris Pike?

Sydney Kings: :
"The Sydney Kings are excited to announce the signing of import power forward Ray Turner for the remainder of the 2018-19 NBL season."

Turner plays 1 game, main contribution being to foul out quickly with a Bogut already out.

Well, that de-escalated quickly.