Anon
Years ago
Hire's NBL minutes at 12.5 per game which would be worrysome for Rockingham.
Jervis' minutes at 12.8 per game which is fantastic for East Perth.
Not much coming out about new signings outside of Willo, Lakeside, Rocko and the wolves. Hawks and Perth quiet so far. Can they win without some change up considering how well the other Wolves and Rocko have done with their changes
?
Kevin Davis to the Slammers a sick joke or legit?
Oldtimer
Years ago
You would think Jervis wouldn't be playing SBL since his wife is still living in Brisbane and he’s a FIFO basketballer currently.
Lakeside signed armour and rumored to have signed vigor
Lackovic reported to be driving around town begging for Vigors address
Slammers announce 2nd import, Tyler Livingstone in a press release on par with one from the Wolves
Tyler *Livingston
He played in the Spanish 3rd division league, averaging 7.6 points and 2.4 rebounds in 38 games.
Looks fairly vanilla and just an outside shooter with not much substance. Is the Spanish 3rd division any good??
AnkleBreaker
Years ago
Well lets just say if he was dominating the 3rd Division of the Spanish League, he wouldn't be making his way to WA SBL!
Haha, so they spelt his name wrong in it? Classic!
anon
Years ago
He avg 13.2 in D1 not easy to do should score for sure at SBL level. Third league Spain is pretty good as well some ex NBA guys play in that league.
So should translate to 20 PPG in the SBL? Who else do the Slammers have with no Weeden in 2029. Roster doesn't look too deep if they have one
Anonymouse
Years ago
G Lay
G
F Livingston
F Voelkel
C Sopolinski
Looks legit.
Who did Wolves sign other than earnest ross? how have they had a huge successful offseason that everyone keeps discussing.
Perry Lakes have been quiet? They have resigned every single player back from their championship season and added Tevin Jackson, along with two import spots now currently up their sleeves.
In case you didn't notice, but they won it last year without Holmen and Thomas.They now add one of them back and Tevin Jackson who is a young, hungry and athletic player with NBL development experience. They then have two import spots to just tweak in, when and if needed.
anonymous
Years ago
Is Brian Carlwell still at Perry Lakes??? He was a big part of their GF win
Anonymous
Years ago
Parsons is big on making sure he has all the right pieces. I highly doubt he will look to build or buy a super team even with two import spots available so any new signings should be solid additions.
Anon
Years ago
Brian was looking elsewhere but didn't want to move I would be very surprised if he does leave
Pretty sure Hawks haven't actually "signed" everyone from last year, assumption is that the core group will be back
Signing contracts is a ridiculous process in the SBL, no one has technically signed other than those so called superstars which teams want to remove from Pleb status to make them feel good when they move clubs.
All players will get contracts near the new year or closer to the date. Most teams have verbals and the guys are showing up to practices and are involved. Brian would be stupid to move unless monetary value is of importance. He is now an Aussie and wont be paid as an American I assume.
He should stay as a Hawk and go for a back to back and one more ring with the club that has helped him greatly.
Who else is lakeside adding? Seems they have lost a lot of their depth.
Anonymous
Years ago
Don't think Wolves will add much to Ross. Word on street strings really tightened by mgt and financially supporting wsbl more (perini, land), so not expect any announcements other than usual aussies like salinas, ect and maybe a college pick
Anon
Years ago
Giants sign Adelaide swingman Dave Humphries. A former juco All-American so that's a nice pick-up.
Him and Jake Martin - that's a couple of quality Aussies there alongside their imports.
Anon
Years ago
http://www.goldfieldsgiants.com/2018/11/30/humphries/
http://www.goldfieldsgiants.com/2018/11/30/humphries/
Jake Martin and Marshall Kearing from Mandurah both have signed to play in the Big V for Hume City
Anonymous
Years ago
ex-Magic Fletcher Klatstorny and Sam Julitz both living in Kalgoorlie so some losses there for Mandurah. Luckily Durnin to fill the void left by those three.
Anonymous
Years ago
C Import
F Deng
F Durnin
G Import
G Ballantyne
Makuei
Miegel
Kyle
Battling with Slammers for last place by the looks of it.
Ballantyne is now in college so will not be available for the full season
Julitz and Klazstorny will be handy for the Giants if they are playing for them.
Not world beaters by any means, but solid when given minutes and gives them some depth.
SBLFan
Years ago
J. Coburn to the Redbacks. Perth now committed to bringing in players rather than developing their own.
"Perth now committed to bringing in players rather than developing their own."
yeah cause they did a great job developing local talent like Redhage, Roberts, Smith and Nelson
Coburn isnt going to help Perth with the loss of Hussey and Barrow. Could be a long year for the Redbacks.
Anoinamouse
Years ago
Hang on!! They've developed Gatorna, Vlahov and .. oh wait
SBLFan
Years ago
Looking at Perth's MSBL roster from last season, players they can claim as their own;
B. Smith (32yo, 29 min's/game in 29 games)
J. Wagner (31yo, 28 min's/game in 28 games)
M. Vigor (28yo, 22 min's/game in 17 games)
J. Collard (19yo, 1 min/game in 13 games)
Bosnakis (18yo, 5 min's/game in 2 games)
Herbert (18yo, 2 min's/game in 18 games)
That's a huge gap between the old (David Harris') guard and the new. For several years there was much bragging about junior player development but nothing to actually show for it?
Slammers only have the 3 players they announced plus a bunch of kids at this point.
Anon
Years ago
Why wouldn't they get Billups back, the reigning SBL MVP
Anonymous l
Years ago
Billups already signed, just not yet announced
Had year 2 option and took it - believe asked for announcement after Xmas, given other contract at moment
Hussey is at Willetton, thats going to be gold.
Anon
Years ago
Hussey for Armour - like for like
Barrow for Bowie - like for like
Where are they improving?
I can't see it.
We need the wolves squad to remain strong.
Seb likely retire??
Eitherway we need them to go for 4 peat so MUST STAY STRONG.
Wolves have announced Kevin Davis returning - they will no doubt spin it but i think its an average import signing
Anon
Years ago
KD was shopping himself around hard, Wanneroo looking desperate taking him back...
Anonymous
Years ago
Davis is a cheap import which has allowed them to get Ross, who would likely be the most expensive non-import in the league in 2019.
Will be interesting to see which way they go with the other import spot. Do they go a scoring point guard ala Tre Nichols, or a swingman which allows their plethora of local up-an-coming PG's to run the show.
Anonymous
Years ago
Maybe not a popular (neutral) view here, but I call smart play for mine
Ross flat out baller - just killed it in Asia Cup
KD super SBL reliable and apparently good value (cheap)
Add another absolute premium guy & killa threat (with dollars allowing this)
if there's enough ball, this is big time
Thank god, so the 4th Peat looking alive and well.
#WOLFPACK
Any truth to the rumor that the Wolfpack will be working together with the team at "Collective Minds" this pre-season??
Perthworld
Years ago
Etto though but.
Let's get this ring!... improve to a 2010s GF conversion rate of 50%.
ahhhhwoooo
Anonymous
Years ago
Geez they better hope that Redhage is going around again.
So Wolves have filled both import spots then. Don't see how Ross and Davis can win it for them.
Anonnn
Years ago
Ross unrestricted. Article from able suggests 1 import still to come
Anon
Years ago
Oceania ruling has changed, Ross will be restricted I believe
Anonymous
Years ago
League sources today confirmed Ross' unrestricted status for a media piece
Paving the way for wolves to have 2 imports - with KD first announced today
Oceania rule clear, with no change according to HQ
Ross essentially an Aussie for the pack
2.1 A player who is a non-Australian or Oceania citizen will be deemed a restricted player in the SBL competition.
6.1 Any player that is a member of a national senior squad as at 1st of July of the previous year shall be automatically a restricted player.
I believe both of those boxes ticked. Ross restricted.
Ok, only going by the restricted player policy as of October 11, 2018.
Lukosius
Years ago
Ross will be 'unrestricted'.
Article 2.1 has to be read the right away. What it should say is....
"A player who is a non-Australian or non-Oceania citizen will be deemed a restricted player in the SBL competition."
The word "non" should be in front of "Oceania".
In regards to national representation, I think you will find that does not apply to Oceania national teams.
What it should read and what it does read are two completely different things. The Oceania clause was put in for the 2019 season. Oceania players are now restricted including New Zealand players.
And it doesn't say anything about Oceania players being exempt.
Lukosius
Years ago
Oceania players are not restricted and a simple phone call to the SBL office will confirm this.
In addition to this, Basketball Australia yesterday issued their latest 'Foreign Player and Coach Policy' document which also stated this.
To anons 720382 point. To avoid confusion, it would be good idea for SBL commission to have the wording on the the 2019 restricted player policy on their website to state what the policy actually is! Rather than having to interpret it!!
Anon
Years ago
Why is every graphic for Perry Lakes signings exactly the same?
Boring
at least they are being active. Not so much can be said for some clubs
Are you really complaining about a graphic used on a clubs new signing post? You must be fun at parties.
Hussey for armour is not a like for like. That is a downgrade.
Expect a career year for Armour in purple. He's been held back at Willeton. Sacrificed far more than anyone else did while looking for a title with the likes of Turner and Bowie.
anon
Years ago
Alot of players make sacrifices in the SBL and I agree Kyle is one of the many that take a back seat to coaches decision or systems put in place basketball is more than just putting a ball in the basket much more.
I think anyone who has played with or knows Kyle Armour knows that he is one hell of a player and and even better bloke. Willetton will miss him off the court just as much as on it.
Trigga
Years ago
"Cough Cough" Chokers Three Years running #Lel #MyboyBen #Letsgoforfour #Chokinghazard #Lelagain
Serious question.
Do you think it is harder to win 3 in a row or lose 3 in a row?
Hawks have the 3 peat wins.
Just missed on the 4th.
Wolves have the 3 peat and by all reports are shaping up well for the 4.
Anon
Years ago
Hawks also have the 4peat wins. Hawks women have 3 peat wins.
any news on potential imports for lakeside given alexander did acl and will be out long term and isenbarger also out for substantial amount of time?
Isen barger will return for 2019. Will be 100% by the preseason tournament.
It is funny though how generally it seems to be the leaders of the court or the PGs who do it to win Championships.
Armour - Eagles
Shamus - Giants
Thomas - Cougars
Wagner - Redbacks
Salinas - Wolves
Joe Allen - Everywhere
Just to name a few recent ones. All were at one time heavily sought after and sacrificed their games to win the big dance.
Jalen Billups is a likely signing of the Southern Huskies
https://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/5795548/bragg-prepared-for-huskies-opportunity/
Flames just announced a rebrand, not sure what I think...
koberulz
Years ago
It's an improvement, but it has a bit too much of a Texan/cowboy feel for mine.
Lock it In
Years ago
I'm not a fan, I'm gonna wait and see what it looks like on Hire and Robbins before I decide?
Have East Perth signed any imports or will they just load up on Wildcats?
Anon
Years ago
Yep, Steindl and Jon Morse will be their restricted players, and Jervis, Vague and Dech will join them as unrestricted.
Lock it In
Years ago
Lots of talk about where Steindl is playing or where his missus is playing. Unless he gets another Cats contract it is hard to see him staying in WA to play SBL and I wouldn't be betting on him getting another contract just yet!!
Heard the Slammers have a couple of veterans about to sign, one straight out of retirement
What about Wani Swaka on the Lo Blok. Where's he heading? Good sauce tells me Flames or Eagles but reckon Senators are a shot?
Anon
Years ago
Giants with another solid recruit, this time from the QBL.
www.goldfieldsgiants.com/2018/12/09/maleksigning
Add a couple of imports and they're starting to get together a solid line-up.
Billups officially announced by Southern Huskies
https://www.facebook.com/southernhuskiesbasketball/photos/a.2234195186594055/2460270677319837/?type=3&theater
https://twitter.com/NZ_hoops/status/1071894916958023680
Lock it In
Years ago
Is this the Mark Worthington to Slammers rumour that comes every year??
East Perth will be playing their home games from Mirrabooka Herb Graham rec centre.
Good move to try and increase crowd numbers.
Will the Redbacks men go B0-wen-26?
Will Wani be played on the Lo Bluk?
With Nic as Assistant Coach, is he any good at Cod-ing film?
Will Armor allow the Lighting to play with more Vigor?
These are the hard pressing answers I need this forum to answer for me.
Giants imports going to very interesting... have a good aussie group imports could get them back into playoffs....
Slammerrs, Giants, Mandurah to compete for the spoon again this year. East Perth to be the big improvers and wolves to easily win title
Anon
Years ago
Giants won't be at the bottom. They've already announced a couple of quality Aussie recruits from the eastern states, have a couple of ex-Magic guys training with them, and always end up with very good imports.
anonymous
Years ago
...wolves to easily win title
Unfortunately for Wolves, unless they win a title then it will be another failed year... and possibly the championship window closes as Illiadis, Seb, Huntington, Matacz all will be getting closer to retiring
Anonymous
Years ago
i think wolves women will actually be the team spoken about in c'ship discussions
sauces suggest recruiting work far from complete - which given what they have, is quite remarkable
Matacz and Seb should both retire.
But if they happy to play reduced roles and still enjoy it then of course let them play on.
Anonymous
Years ago
people seem to love discussing wolves (Dept sport & rec WA sport survey shows most high profile team in WA, obviously behind Cats)
this free marketing actually must add to their millions - virtuous circle!
very influential at sponsor meetings and board tables including BWAs !
Trigga
Years ago
LEL i thought the exact same thing. Has the arrogance and knowledge of either him or ben ny boy written all over it. Influential doesn't make you popular it just makes you look like an even bigger douche when you go sprouting off about it on social media forums. I am still trying to figure out why they are destination of choice for basketball!? Surely willetton and/or Perry Lakes would lay better credentials to that claim, at both wabl and sbl level LEL
Destination club = We pay you more money then your home grown club can afford.
AHWOOO
Years ago
Wolfpack= We pay you what you deserve to be paid, and we can do so because we are a well run club that generates income. Hence why so many clubs have chosen to try and replicate what we do.
ssshhhh
koberulz
Years ago
There's a topic? I just see people spamming "#wolfpack" and "ahwooooo" over and over.
Not that the SBL threads are worth reading 99% of the time anyway, but this is bad even by its normal standards.
Andrew
Years ago
The Chambers Franklyn Joondalup City Wolves are excited to announce the final addition to their 2019 Men's roster, welcoming USA wing Ridell Camidge to the Wolfpack.
Camidge, a former University of North Carolina (Charlotte 49ers) NCAA Division 1 athlete, is a 194cm 2-3 who will provide the Wolves with another elite shooting option, along with noted punch at the basket.
It was Camidge’s performances with the Oklahoma City Stars roster that proved most eye-catching, averaging 18.5 PPG and 6 boards per game across 2017-18, including 44% FG and 42% 3PT shooting.
With an ability to score in various ways, Camidge possesses great ability to create his own shot in all situations. He reads defense well and has big intensity both ways, stopping offensive wing threats.
Men’s Head Coach Ben Ettridge has worked closely with the club’s List Management Group to identify and sign an athlete who complements the roster, and he is thrilled with what Camidge provides the club, as a desired skill-set.
"Ridell is an impressive athlete, very focused and ready to perform in his first international contract. His cultural-fit and work ethic set him apart".
“His shooting is in the elite category, with a real ability to fill it up, so we’re pretty excited to welcome him” Ettridge said.
Ridell Camidge is selected as the club’s second Men’s import signing for the 2019 season, in support of international Earnest Ross and power big Kevin Davis, creating a formidable trio that is expected to create real problems for the opposiition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPv3eWClqzU
RIP 1997 WSBL Rookie of the Year and 2007 WSBL MVP Christine Boyd
https://twitter.com/PerthLynx/status/1074532581654224896
Andrew
Years ago
Yeah interesting signing. Is Trian going to start at the point?
PG Trian Iliadis 6'3"
SG Ridell Camidge 6'4
SF Earnest Ross 6'5
PF Kevin Davis 6'9
C Rob Hintington 6'9
TH62
Years ago
Cute write up about Ridell Camidge, just mix everything up and hope nobody checks it :)
Ridell started at Juco, he did go to an NCAA Div 1 college, the Charlotte 49ers, but he lasted only a year.
From there he went to a Div 11 College, Tarleton State and finished at Oklahoma City, a non NCAA university.
The numbers are great, but NAIA is not NCAA, thankfully he couldn't slide lower.
Now Ben stated that "His cultural-fit and work ethic set him apart", funny how he couldn't hang on his scholarships, with all those attributes and elite performance at the highest level he seems like a huge signing, foundation for a 3 peat :)
Anonnn
Years ago
Let's wait and see how he fits in. Imports are a lottery most of the time. I wouldn't knock him any more than some of the other recent signings
Perthworld
Years ago
I can't wait for the next announcement on who we've bought errr I mean signed. Even the ladies are stockpiling. F*ck we're good and loaded with talent AND moolah! Such a great fiscal club.
What a time to be alive as a dual Wolves and Wildcats supporter.
WOLFPACK
awhoooo
*neil barnard chanting defense while spanking mic*
Andrew
Years ago
Ha ha that's pretty funny. Will have to get the crowd more involved with the clapping this season.
1 of those Giants things are true
Not Holeman or Blue
bowie had 2 interrupted seasons with the Tigers. Interesting choice by the Giants. Lets hope his body holds up as when he is healthy he is a great player in our league
Any word coming out of Redbacks land since the departure of
Barrow
Vigor
Hussey
Anon
Years ago
Well if it is Bowie back to the Giants, it shows they aren't mucking around. Already signed two very good Aussies from the eastern states, plus Bowie, plus a big import centre you would think, and you would assume Holloway will be back. That's a nice starting 5.
On top of that Julitz and Klatstorny from the Magic are training with them, and have the usual suspects Forlano, Hurst and Reid.
http://www.goldfieldsgiants.com/2018/12/19/bowiesigning/
Royalties for Regions
Years ago
The health of the three regional teams quite often will reflect the health of the league overall, so it will be interesting to see where those teams are at for 2019.
With 6-7" Kiwi Brayden Inger joining the Buccs next year, the starting fives that we know of so far....
Buccs
C - Import ??
F - Hunt
F - Inger
G - Import ??
G - Alipate
Giants
C - Import ??
F - Malek
F - Bowie (import)
G - Humphries
G - Holloway
Slammers
C - Weeden
F - Voelkel (import)
F - ???
G - Livingston (import)
G - Lay
If the giants get that big import spot right they'll be playoff contenders this year
AHWOOO
Years ago
Where's Hussey going now? Is he the leagues most disloyal player?? Discuss
Anon
Years ago
Hahaha Slammers can't even get Livingston's name spelt correctly on the media release on the SBL Transaction Tracker
Geraldton Buccaneers sign American forward Willie Conner
https://twitter.com/JCKSportsGroup/status/1075486992207622145
After two years at Buffalo, Conner played one pro game in Greece in October last year
Hussey at Tigers, replacing the departed Kyle Armour who has moved to Lakeside
Perthworld
Years ago
There's nothing stopping other clubs from signing up premium sponsors to fund signings. Except their ineptitude. I guess it's easier to be jealous rather than address revenue issues.
Awhooo... WOLFPACK
anon
Years ago
I agree Wolves do a great job at securing sponsors other clubs sit on their hands all year and then when it comes to time to find sponsors for the season all of a sudden they ask players and others to find them. Great job by the Wolfpack and I hate the wolves.
Perthworld
Years ago
That reminds me of when one of my family members actually donated to East Perth simply out of pity. Eagles were basically door knocking businesses for loose change. So on the one hand we have Wolves operating like a SEABL club while Eagles operate like they're in Waratah League.
Who cares
Years ago
Wolves haven't won anything in quite a few years anyway. Spend or don’t spend, they will not win until they address their lack of composure in Finals. They have been the faves three seasons in a row in the MSBL and have beaten easily each time.No prizes for finishing 2nd. There roster this season is looking good, but it lacks any real bench depth.
not only about sponsors. the massive catchment area and massive domestic revenue helps.
rather than trashing other clubs they should respect how much easier wolve$ have and show respect for other clubs competing amazingly well.
wolves WSBL spend this year will be TRIPPLE some clubs. and no other MSBL will have 3 imports.
they deserve to win. they have already paid in full for 2 championships. second place will be complete failure.
the ineptitude comment is breathtaking. give any club 5-6 full time staff, brand new stadiums and the largest domestic catchment area in the league ... and maybe they will become rude and arrogant as well!
On top of that there WABL program has become largely irrelevant, for having the club competition and catchment area they do to be so consistently mid to low table in that competition is disappointing.
So while they do great branding and recruiting they aren't contributing to the overall health of WA junior high performance and will need to keep recruiting for the foreseeable future to maintain current MSBL success as well as pull their women's program out of it's recent decline.
and coaches and parent attitudes to young WABL referees week in week out is a disgrace.
... often bordering on abuse!
wolves might buy 2xSBL championships but are are a cultural mess
Anon
Years ago
Okay, so who is up for doing a summary on how they see the mens teams looking so far?
JR
Years ago
Wolves won't win regardless of how much they stack their team. Their game style is all wrong and defense doesn’t seem to matter much.
Anon
Years ago
Jackson Hussey has changed clubs AGAIN, Rebecca Mercer AGAIN- and after someone mentioned about Hussey being disloyal before it's got me thinking, who has played for the most clubs?
Lukosius
Years ago
Five clubs or more.....
7 - Justin Eckhardt
6 - Austin Bruton
6 - Corey Easley
6 - Russell Haxby
6 - Adrian Majstrovich
6 - Adrian Thompson
5 - Ryan Benson
5 - Tim Feldhusen
5 - Kelly Huston
5 - Brett Spagnolo
5 - Daniel Thomas
5 - Billy Wade
Anon
Years ago
Thanks Lukosius
Names like Majstrovich and Thomas had come to mind- had no idea Aussie had played for so many clubs. Those Bensons like getting around
Anon
Years ago
Where is Corey Easley playing in 2019?
Could he potentially join Justin Eckhart at the top of that list?
Perthworld
Years ago
Ettridge is a worry when it comes to GFs. Am I right that it's just a case of no one better being around so he isn't replaced? I agree we spend so much money to finish second. What a waste.
Lock it In
Years ago
Lukosius do you have the women's list as well??
Are the Bensons the title holders for most clubs by a couple in the SBL??
With Bowie and Cody gone, surely this paces the way for 1x John Dickson to make a swan song appearance
I see Triscari in the local paper saying he has a couple of players from the Perth region interested in playing and a couple training. Any ideas who they are or if they will be any value?
Giants have announced their new import on Facebook.
Former D1 college player Marquis Salmon
http://www.goldfieldsgiants.com/2018/12/24/salmonsigning/
You can't call a player disloyal for playing for different clubs. That’s an absurd statement. Players are players and barring a few of them all were paid players and went where their lives were going to be better off making that extra cash. Bruton has been at one club for a long time now. Thomas seemed to follow parsons after his long stint in Gero. Mastrovixh was earning big money in kalamunfa and then travelled and shopped himself around for money. The only guy on the list that went somewhere else cause they couldn’t get run was.... well you can be the judge. Hussey is going where he’s going to enjoy playing and get paid.
What loyalty does he owe any club? Why does he have to stay in a crap situation?
koberulz
Years ago
The only guy on the list that went somewhere else cause they couldn't get run wasAnd why is that a bad thing?
Lukosius
Years ago
Here's the new thread for 2019.....
www.hoops.com.au/forum/44546-wa-sbl-january-2019
True sports Fan
Years ago
For all the Camidge haters. Look at the Numbers. He Choose to go and leave every school he attended to play basketball. Look at the Numbers, he had success at every school going into a system unfamiliar and succeed. How,because of a High Basketball IQ and an impeccable work ethic. He will so nothing less that succeed where ever he plays. The Man has ice in his veins and the SBL,Wolve just found a Diamond in the rough.
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