Isaac
Years ago
New Zealand's Tai Wesley had been referred to the NBL Tribunal following an incident in yesterday’s game between the Breakers and Perth Wildcats at RAC Arena.
Wesley was reported by referee Michael Aylen for comments he made towards him during the last quarter of the game. The tribunal will be heard on Wednesday December 5 following his return from international commitments with Guam.
LoveBroker
Years ago
Revoke his special permission to play in the NBL.
KB3
Years ago
I particularly enjoy that they have to wait for him to play for Guam first, again highlighting that the NBL rules don't allow him to play in the NBL as a local.
AngusH
Years ago
To be fair, whatever was said to Aylen he probably had it coming.
AD
Years ago
So KB3, if you, or your ancestors were allowed to migrate to Australia under a set of rules, and those rules were subsequently changed, you should all be deported?
Keep in mind that this is the last year the Grandfathering applies.
It highlights a problem for players like himself (and Jackson) when moving between NZ & AUS, in that it disrupts their ability to qualify for Citizenship.
KB3
Years ago
No not at all
He isn't an Australian citizen or a citizen of NZ yet is allowed to play in the NBL as a local.
This issue has been widely discussed
Maybe they should site the coaches that get into the refs as well, coaches shoot be allowed to talk to refs while the game is in play, only after the whistle, calling fouls, chargers etc should be stopped.
Andrew
Years ago
Didn't realise Wesley was a Yank, that makes for 5 in the Breakers lineup then and we beat them with just one in ours yesterday :)
Wesley's comments were beyond what Coaches talk to refs about during the game. Hence why he has been reported. He's most likely personally attacked the refs character with defamatory remarks.
Reality
Years ago
careful about any negative Aylen comments.
His employers have deep pockets.
Wesley should have signed with Adelaide (if they had the budget).. he would be free right now.
Hogwash
Years ago
@ Andrew. Who is the 5th American at NZ Breakers?
Long, Moore, Richard and Wesley as 4th.
AD
Years ago
Wesley was born in American, With a Guamian(?) father, and grew up there, when his family returned for a while. Like anyone with dual citizenship, he could have chosen either country and he chose Guam.
Just like CJB, Maker, etc, chose Australia, or Irving chose the USA.
Under the rules that applied, Wesley was unrestricted. Those rules were changed, and his exemption was grandfathered. As is only fair. His last season of exemption is this one.
It should also be noted that had he stayed in NZ, he probably would have naturalised by now.
NB: You can't whinge about "NZ having 4 Americans" without also whinging about all the Sudanese born players in Aus.
I'll also say that I think axing the Oceania exemption, or at least not keeping some form of it, is unfortunate, especially when you consider we're trying to forge closer links, and NZ already has them.
Except that while Puerto Rico and Guam play basketball as separate territories their people are American Citizens. No such thing as a Guam passport.
Why is it "fair" for Wesley to still be an unrestricted player? It provides a potentially unfair advantage to the Breakers. It's not like he wouldn't have been employed this season.
KB3
Years ago
The rule never existed being the issue
The league is better for having him in it
For sure, but the rule doesn't need to be in place this year for him to be in the league.
They are corrupt. They had it coming
The whole Perth breakers series was such a shame. Perth will be upset they didnt win fairly and breakers upset they didn't lose fairly.
Perth remonstrate every call, half the time with their whole bench on the feet yelling at the ref's and never even get a warning for it. It's clearly to invite their crowd and it works. Big part of the reason they hardly lose at home
Isaac
Years ago
Perth remonstrate every call, half the time with their whole bench on the feet yelling at the ref's and never even get a warning for it.That's every team.
"Perth remonstrate every call, half the time with their whole bench on the feet yelling at the ref's..."
That simply isn't true.
If Wesley is fined, who will pay his grown man child support bills?
mystro
Years ago
He should have blown up at his team mates, the refs didn't blow a massive lead.
Yes the Refs did mystro.Foul count 10-2 in the final quarter to Perth.
Some Terrible officiating down the stretch as the refs got in behind the large crowd and brought the wildcats home.
mystro
Years ago
No the refs don't turn the ball over or take shit shots anon.
Wesley playing for a stacked Guam team in the pitiful 2021 FIBA Asia Cup pre-qualifiers. He's playing with guys like Earnest Ross and Curtis Washington
Isaac
Years ago
Wesley in the fourth. 1/4 FG, turnover, foul and a block. Breakers would've been fouling to stop the clock at the end two - twice in the last 14 seconds. Watched the last quarter as an impartial observer and didn't think the Breakers were hard done by - go look at the Wildcats' offensive boards perhaps?
Mystro
10 fouls to 2 in the final quarter. Let them play.
Reverse the foul count. Reverse the result. Simple
Refs shouldn't decide the outcome of the game players should.
Refs ruined 3 games. Foul count something like 78 to 30 over three game
Australian ref against the breakers are corrupt
"Reverse the foul count. Reverse the result. Simple
Refs shouldn't decide the outcome of the game players should."
So you're saying the refs shouldn't decide the outcome, but also suggest they ref the game to make the foul count more even? or not call any fouls to let the players play? That completely ignores how undisciplined the Breakers are.
Also, not calling fouls just to make things even *is* letting the refs decide the game
Hoopie
Years ago
If the players play by the rules, then refs won't need to blow the whistle nearly as much. In other words, the refs won’t decide the outcome of the game, and the players will.
Simples
No I am saying the refs should stop cheating and calling it in perths favour.
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