Jack Toft
Years ago

Illawarra v Adelaide

Illawarra couldn't quite knock over the Cadee show earlier in the round but have the opportunity for redemption against Adelaide today. Adelaide with a somewhat easy win over the hapless Cairns even gave Bijan Johnson his first NBL points in the game.

For those who think this will be a cake walk for Adelaide, think again. Illawarra are very competitive at home and while some of their players have seen better days, they seem to lift when they have a good night's sleep in their own bed. Illawarra has a big scalp this season in Melbourne, a win over Brisbane and Cairns as well as that 4 x OT game.

Other results have been competitive, but Adelaide did roll them a couple of games ago.

There's not much to do in Wollongong except surf, play basketball, and spill beer. Wollongong with a few older craftier players will want a slow, man on man game. Adelaide with a little younger faster legs will go for broke with a fast paced run and gun.

Illawarra has only lifted their bat for the century once this season against Cairns, otherwise their score is mid 80's, low 90's.

Should be a tight game, but hey, do I ever tip against the Sixers?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Will be a cake walk for Adelaide. Hawks are struggling.

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Hogwash  
Years ago

Will be competitive because its a hawks home game.
If Adelaide run and gun early and Wiley goes off again sixers could win by 25+.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anthony Drmic is held up by peg legs. If a player looks at him the wrong way he loses balance and falls over. Very floppy soft player.

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Hogwash  
Years ago

Drmic. Adelaide can have him.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nothing wrong with a bit of niggle. Leave it alone refs.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Drimic, blatantly fouled then complained to the refs, total loser.

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AngusH  
Years ago

I really like the look of Naar. His jumper is ugly as hell, but I can see him blooming into one of the few starting-quality locals at the position.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Naar, Moller and Jurlina all out Sydney boys high and none of them on kings roster, such a shame.

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Manu Fieldel  
Years ago

Froling is such a turd. I called it in the pre-season. Too big for his boots. Bona fide wanker at such a young age, it's impressive really

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Enjoying this one

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Luuuc  
Years ago

... until the refs decided to demand the spotlight

Ridiculous.

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AngusH  
Years ago

Wow. Harsh double tech on Wiley. Think I agree with Joey on this one, the tech foul was when Wiley circled back.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thought he should have gone go shoving the ref away

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Uncle Phil  
Years ago

Another NBL game destroyed by the refs, that ejection of Wiley is disgraceful.

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KET  
Years ago

Wow the umpires in this league are embarrassing

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Thought he should have gone go shoving the ref away"

Yeah I assumed that was what the 2nd one was for. So in the end probably still deserves the ejection.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What an absolute joke. Refs centre stage again and they still don't have any control....

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AngusH  
Years ago

I think that's definitely the M.O. against Wiley going forward - try get in his head. Always seems to be on the verge of exploding.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's bull shit but Adelaide will never win anything while they whine and whinge about every decision, you can’t always be the underdog.

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Beantown  
Years ago

OMG WORST FUCKING REFEREES EVER

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Anonymous  
Years ago

2nd tech he pushed the ref away twice and had another dig in..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

i hate that Refs get in the middle of a scuffle... just stay out of it, then call the necessary penalties.

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AngusH  
Years ago

LOL... delay of game?! It bounched off his head after the make. Wow.

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AussiePride  
Years ago

Didn't want to see Wiley out of the game but if you start pushing refs that is the way it will go!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I so want to know what was said!!!

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AngusH  
Years ago

Jett said something along the lines of "Jacob, I question your level of masculinity in so far as it pertains to your ability to prevent me from scoring the ball from close proximity to the basket".

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AngusH  
Years ago

Can we all take a minute to appreciate how bad Adelaide's defense is to allow this Hawks team to score 60 points and we're not even at the half.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mentally lost the plot I reckon. No energy since Wiley left either. Time for leadership group to get it back together or this one is over.

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Uncle Phil  
Years ago

Yeh if you're giving up 63 points to the hawks in a half, that shows major defensive deficiencies. The Sixers won’t be going anywhere this season until they start playing both sides of the ball.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm yet to see any team that plays the inside of the ball

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Hogwash  
Years ago

65-53. Hawks. HT.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

36ers are very mentally weak. Hawks were smart to try and get under their skin.

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sixtiesrockstar  
Years ago

The refs have lost the plot in this league. Constantly losing control of foul calls. Guessing on wether a charge/block or flop. Again a Sixers player gets ejected for nothing. The refs need to get the oranges out from under their armpits.

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MACDUB  
Years ago

It bemuses me how guys like Naar who are around junior national teams and COE at young ages can develop such a horrible jumper.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

record half by Illawarra. Nice one Aelaie.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Another Adelaide incident...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Naar was a high scoring player as a junior, his shooting action was different but effective, it all changed at his college, sometimes you should go with what suits you, like Barlow.

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Hogwash  
Years ago

Aelaie 36ers. They have no D.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

lol that's a good one!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nah mate, Aelaie are catching fire.. They beat Illawarra and Cairns and are in fourth place heading into today's game.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Can't wait to see McVeigh hyped up and in the Hawks players faces after he makes his first bucket for the game while 20 points down

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Splinky  
Years ago

Joey perpetrates the siege mentality which doesn't help this team.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Again a Sixers player gets ejected for nothing."

If you think what Wiley did was “nothing” then its you who has lost the plot.

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MACDUB  
Years ago

I think the point is that yes Wiley acted dumb but that he didnt deserve to be ejected for that

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is McVeigh the worst player in the league?

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MACDUB  
Years ago

Sobeys' TOs are hurting the 36ers. I'd rather he attack the paint than either (a) make 50:50 passes or (b) shoot tough mid range jumpers

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LV  
Years ago

Sobey ought to be suspended for that shit

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Look at the video idiots

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KET  
Years ago

Andersen's high elbow isn’t unsportsmanlike? Wtf

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Rat10  
Years ago

Very crude foul by Anderson. Surely unsportsmanlike at the very least.

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You get a tech for Wiley's behaviour not a double tech and ruin the game. Yeah yeah Adelaide always whinges. So would anyone if you copped the shit these refs dish up. Every coach whines coz the standard is horrendous. Kelley and braswell both given them serves in pressers this week but nah it’s only Adelaide that whinges mate

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Anonymous  
Years ago

UMPIRES AGAIN ARE A BUNCH OF C..KLESS F..KHOLES

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Big Ads  
Years ago

And this game is on free to air. This is embarrassing on so many levels.

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LV  
Years ago

Usf on both is enough actually

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sobey didn't do much, hardly any contact.
Anderson should be ejected, easy call

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LV  
Years ago

What's the diff bw usf and tech?

Why did DA get both?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Loving this game though, Adelaide got problems with discipline, so many hot heads starting with the coach.

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MACDUB  
Years ago

Wow it's easy to get thrown out of a game these days! Haha

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Joeys_Right  
Years ago

Sobey gets a tech? Anderson was stepping on hes foot..
Why the refs not looking at the footage before the wild calls

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Hogwash  
Years ago

Unsportsmanlike yes but dropping Sobey on his ass well done.

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LV  
Years ago

Actually I think the technically correct call should be DA usf and Sobey tech

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Crazy how the refs "interpretated" that one....Carfino at his best.

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MACDUB  
Years ago

Actually think the fracas will help ADL rather than the Hawks. ADL are a team who can use that emotion to bring out their best. It's their MO.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kick a player, and they get ejected. We are Adelaide.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

F**K!!!!! How away supposed to encourage people to watch nbl.

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Rat10  
Years ago

For all the shenanigans and the horrible D that Adelaide are playing they'd have to be happy to be only 10 points down. Watch the refs call every little bit of slight contact in this 4th quarter.

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KET  
Years ago

Andersen stood elbowed into Sobey then stood on Sobeys foot.

What's Sobey meant to do, wait for Andersen to stop stepping on him?

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Manu Fieldel  
Years ago

Froling is a turd

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KET  
Years ago

Congers layup doesn't count hahaha what is thisssss

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GordonG  
Years ago

Be no-one left at this rate.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'd imagine Wiley got a tech for shoving Jett, then another for forcibly removing the refs from his space then going after Jett again. He’s an idiot, he’s only himself to blame.

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Hanging Round  
Years ago

WTF
Missing so many free throws and shot selection is shocking.
Seem to be playing into Hawks hands (or is it talons?)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Andersen always been a sniping c..t

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Hogwash  
Years ago

Turdy sixers.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

These c..ts think they won the championship

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Big Ads  
Years ago

Did I just see the guy who poured the drink on Marcus Thornton sitting behind the Hawks bench and with a neck brace on?

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Hanging Round  
Years ago

Who 'spiked' 36ers Powerade bottles at 3/4 time?
Struggling to get the ball into front half, never mind setting up for a good shot.

Hard to watch

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Let it die already Aelaie.. sheesh

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Big Ads  
Years ago

Is Johnson in the doghouse. Not sighted since early in the third.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hodgson > Johnson

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Perthworld  
Years ago

We love you 'cause you're from Wollongong.

*clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap*

Do they still do this chant?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Adelaide are just trying to create a lopsided foul count to give them and their fans an excuse and something to whinge about

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Hogwash  
Years ago

120 points great job Illawarra.

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XY  
Years ago

Adelaide got robbed in each of the three 'incidents' in the game. They gave up after Wiley was ejected (I am still not sure for what, he was yapping no more than Jett was). But it was just the in game stuff - Sixers couldn’t buy a foul in the first half. The result was farcical (Joey manufactured most of the farce) but the umpiring ruined the spectacle.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

XY... Baaaaahahahaha.. Oh, it's not even April 1. Are you really serious right now?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Maybe Adelaide should just learn to defend. Then defend better.

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Lovebroker  
Years ago

AJ and Jett have been poor so far this season. How is it the Sixers enable them to score 19 and 18 ??

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XY  
Years ago

Yeah, I'm serious. Wiley getting a double T for a single incident of mouthing off is extraordinary. Sobey getting T’d up for Anderson standing on his foot, comical.

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Udog  
Years ago

First quarter was good. Second though the refs made it a mess. How many fouls did they miss on Adelaide shots? Actually miss is the wrong call. Ignored is probably a better word.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Drmic should have been teched for running in at Andersen and creating that scuffle. Or did Andersen step his foot too?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ran in and ran straight out, after shoving Anderson.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

And made Andersen yell something, earning him a tech.

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XY  
Years ago

To get him off of his teammates foot? You guys serious?

Anderson has been pulling this shit his entire career. He knew exactly what he was doing.

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Udog  
Years ago

Anderson got Sobey in a head lock on an earlier play so he was pushing his luck a bit.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Joey (I'm off the the NBA) Wright, clearly has been out coached. Nuff said.
Great to see Adelaide lose. David beat Goliath.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Wiley getting a double T for a single incident of mouthing off is extraordinary."

He pushed the ref twice. This has been said repeatedly

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sorry, he pushed Jett to start with, then he couldn't be calmed down and pushed the ref twice while still yapping away. He deserved to be tossed.

Why does Adelaide have such a problem with discipline, and why can’t their fans see it?

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Lovebroker  
Years ago

You guys keep going on about the calls as if those calls solely made us lose.

I would like to know from our coach why Illawarra, who is second last in scoring, was allowed to score 120?

I would like to know from our coach why Illawarra, who is dead last in 3PT %, was allowed to score @ 47%?

We made Jett and Ogilvy look like all-stars out there. Jett is SEABL level at best.

Our defence whilst not super stellar was good last year, this year we have regressed again, why?

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sixtiesrockstar  
Years ago

Refs explanation to Joey for the techs is he got the second for coming back in for a second go. Watching the replay the ref gives Wiley a tech when he is walking away cursing. The refs are a complete joke. Wiley never came in for a second go as he never left the first time.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Our defence whilst not super stellar was good last year, this year we have regressed again, why?"

Adelaide grow an extra leg defensively at home, and lose a leg on the road.

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Name  
Years ago

What quarter and time was the fight? I want to watch it.

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Lovebroker  
Years ago

Refs explanation to Joey for the techs is he got the second for coming back in for a second go. Watching the replay the ref gives Wiley a tech when he is walking away cursing. The refs are a complete joke. Wiley never came in for a second go as he never left the first time.


Yes he did, he clearly came back for a second spray at Jett after the initial fracas and even you saw the T given for the second one.

It's on the soft side for a rejection T but he should know better.

Wiley is happy to carry on and flex muscles, but takes offence when Jett does the same?

The only thing Wiley should be angry at is making Jett look good.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Let's hope he gets reported. Shame the refs do it on the night.

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Lovebroker  
Years ago

What quarter and time was the fight? I want to watch it.


Q2 6:35.

It's hardly a fight.

I'd go as far to say Wiley was lucky, he laid a hand on a ref.

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Manu Fieldel  
Years ago

The man does speak some sense after all. Wiley should have certainly been thrown out

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D2.0  
Years ago

Unfortunately this is the inevitable result of Joey's attitude.

He can coach no question. He can certainly build a team, and his style is entertaining and high-scoring.

But he refuses to push D.

If you look at how the Perth game progressed, the difference is obvious. Gleeson didn't try to outscore NZ, he tried to contain them, and it worked. Joey just keeps trying to push the O, and I'm sorry but you can't give up 40 freaking points in one quarter and think you're in with a shot.

And then, when things get tough, he loses his shit.
Any wonder his players follow suit?

Wiley shows all the signs of being a douche.

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koberulz  
Years ago

The suggestion that kicking people ought to be ignored if they did something to deserve it is comical.

Does anyone know what Coenraad's technical was for? The commentators said Coenraad and Grida were the only Illawarra players T'd up, but Adelaide had two techs as well and yet shot a technical free-throw. I'm assuming Jett was the third but they also specifically said later on that Jett wasn't T'd up.

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GordonG  
Years ago

Commentators said they had no idea why Coenraad copped a tech, as he didn't do anything. At worst, he walked over, non agressively, hands down, to (apparently) try to cool things off.

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koberulz  
Years ago

I'm aware of what the commentators said, but it bore little resemblance to reality with such frequency that I'm not really inclined to put any stock in it.

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Fuck the Hawks. That was disgraceful. Mutual fan devastated with today's game. NBL looking like a joke with the officiating today

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Lovebroker  
Years ago

Coenraad was the first person 'in' and gave Wiley a footy-esque bump with his shoulder, alone it was harmless, but in this situation it would be considered an act that could have made the situation worse.

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AD  
Years ago

Well that was some whacked out game.

@KR, do the commentators not get the same audio feed we hear? So many times they'd be saying they didn't know what was happening, or just getting it wrong, right after the rets had explained it.

Yes, Jett was tech'd, as were Coenraad and Grida.
Didn't look to be much in the Coenraad one, I can only assume that when he rushed in maybe he had some choice words.

I thought the 2nd on Riley was a little harsh, but I guess if you're going to tech Coenraad and Grida for rushing in, then him turning back for another go probably deserved it.

Getting ejected when your 2nd is a flop, was a bit rough too.

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Isaac  
Years ago

I don't have much sympathy for Wiley in that. Short of something supremely offensive and personal being said to him, he's theoretically in control of his actions in response to Jett. Pursued him, danced around and came back including shoving a ref. Just unnecessary. Rucker talks about the refs restraining the emotional side of the game, but leave it at flexing and the first bit of chesting. Rest is just ridiculous. Wiley has to take a lot of responsibility for how that played out.

He played a master game previously. Has himself to blame for not being able to do the same again that round.

Hawks will take a lot out of that game, but neither team seemed all that convincing despite the high scores.

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Proud  
Years ago

Great to see better games from Jett and AJ and Cedric did some better things in this game.

Happy to see a nice high scoring game and Blanchfield played really well.

Is it just me or would we perceive 36ers differently had THEY been the team that Mika went to because it's amazing how they don't have anyone that can settle down a situation and no true locker room leader.

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Melbourne Boy  
Years ago

I wish they just replaced Jackson with someone who can shoot, Jett would be even more effective with his barging drives if there was a little more space.

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LV  
Years ago

Nbl needs to learn from the Wiley ejection

A simple situation that should have resulted in one tech foul, and somehow they over refereed it and ended up issuing an ejection, with 3 techs

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LV  
Years ago

Coenraad did make slight contact but his arms were by his sides. That suggests peacemaking was more his intent, and the bump was incidental to his purpose of getting in front of Wiley and slowing down the aggression

Tech not necessary

Wiley- one tech obviously enough

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why does everyone want to be so lenient on bad behaviour? You act like a twat you pay the penalty. Wiley just like every other players knows that if you get 2 technicals, 2 USF or 1 of each you are out. It is not up to the referee's to keep them under control. These are grown men who need to take responsibility for their actions. As Isaac said, Wiley was an idiot and got what he deserved.



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Anonymous  
Years ago

The refs didn't change the result, thought they got it right and I really enjoyed the game.

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paul  
Years ago

Agreed LV. The situation didn't get out of hand and diffused itself quickly. One tech on Jett and Wiley to put them on notice and get on with the game. Similar to the Randle-Ware situation, so important to have a feel for the game, their jaw-jacking wasn't in danger of spilling over so let them play and let the spectators enjoy the show.

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Anon  
Years ago

If you watch the replay the refs reviewed the Anderson contact on Sobey and Matt Townsend changed the call to an Unsportsmanlike foul which gave him that and the original tech so he was then gone.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

After reviewing the Round 7 game between the Illawarra Hawks and Adelaide 36ers, the NBL has determined that the ejection of Jacob Wiley was an incorrect decision.

The player should not have received two technical fouls, and instead should been assessed as a single technical foul for his role in the incident.

Wiley was ejected from the game at the 6:37 mark of the second quarter after receiving two technical fouls.

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Isaac  
Years ago

I thought Drmic came in more aggressively to a later incident than Coenraad did to that one. To cop that and then something subjective like a flop warning (where it's often getting knocked down too easily rather than faking a fall) is harsh. I think Drmic or Sobey have been in that place previously.

Goulding threw his head back on a play recently where contact wasn't even made. That's when you want to issue a tech or fine someone.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Drmic came in on the Andersen + Sobey incident and escaped penalty

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wiley reminds me of Michael Carrera. Wonder if he'll last as long.

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Isaac  
Years ago

More fun:

The NBL Game Review panel is also reviewing an incident between Nathan Sobey and David Andersen in the third quarter of yesterday's game between Illawarra and Adelaide. A decision on whether charges will be laid will be made tomorrow.

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AD  
Years ago

My opinion is that Coenraad was definitely rushing in "aggressively" to defend a teammate, but I don't think he actually did much. As I said, maybe mounted off.

I don't really know how best to deal with that on the spot?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Didn't Drmic do the same during the kicking incident?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^ Should have read up first.. Apologies gents.

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Camel 31  
Years ago

drimic lucky... third man in....andersen in trouble ...imo...

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