Interestingly no teams in the West of Melbourne

Interestingly no teams in the West of Melbourne

Well, it's not really a Victorian State League when it includes teams from outside of Victoria. More of a South Eastern basketball league. Maybe they could name it something like the South East Australian Basketball League? (that's a joke btw....)

Other associations aren't big enough yet.
Bulleen the only one I can think of that's missing.
Maybe Casey and southern penn.

Surely they cant run a 'State Championship Mens' comp with only 10 teams

Warnambool and Bulleen have both previously played State Championship Men so are logical suggestions to go up

If Mt Gambier have a Victorian CBL team then there is no reason why they cant have a Big V team. There had been talk 6/7 years ago about them joining Big V

Shepparton was once a powerhouse in SCM, hope they can get back to that!

Westernport should be in that mix

Greggo Bulleen have more money than any other D1M club

Promotion/relegation thoughts:
- there is only one league. This is not a division of the BigV
- clubs must have men and women teams
- clubs have licences to play in the Elite League, not BigV

Too many people think only of the men's side or the women's side of competitions - must think of clubs, not teams. Will probably work by mutual arrangement between a club and the league to defer/return their licence in extreme circumstances.

Promotion/relegation is an ordinary concept and we should scale it back instead of increasing its use. Most BigV movement occurs outside this system anyway.

How about getting rid of Div 2 all together and while at it YL2M & W also.

Metro Teams can develop in MMBL and Country teams in CBL. State League should not be all about inclusion. Should be about a very competitive exclusive competition. Some games are glorified domestic.

Is it correct CoE can only play home games in Victoria?

Surely Victoria cannot continue to call SCM/SCW "State Championship" with the new league now taking precedence.

They would need to rename their structure. The Victorian ABA Conference at first did not assume the mantle of Victoria's state championship after the VBA was disbanded back whenever that was... but at some point BV did decide to recognise it as that status, and did so retrospectively if I call.

So now the new league must take that position on the various honour boards of the state you would think.

BTW, the VBA had a long and distinguished history, the stuff of legend in some cases (Albert Park, Wednesday nights etc etc....). The world didn't end after it finished.

And yawn to the Anon who yet again used the unoriginal phrase "glorified domestic"...

Westernport without Travers??

Yes bulleen have money, but they won't spend a cent on their senior teams

Bulleen have applied for SCM

Hearing that Keysy have also applied for SCM

Does anyone know what happens with SEABL records? Will games played etc carry over to this new league? Would be a shame if all of the history and records ended with SEABL.

Games and banners carry over

Chelsea have already been approved to move up to SCM. Detail was in their most recent import announcement

SBL is the name of the WA comp.

Didn't Chelsea win Div 1 last year?
They should be in SCM

The new Victorian Elite League and BigV are two separate leagues. SCM, D1, D2 are divisions of BigV, not the new Elite League. SEABL is a another league again, but it has now dissolved, however records and history will move to the new Elite League. How about BigV discussions in BigV threads?

#713006

How about its perfectly reasonable to discuss the impacts of the new "Victorian" league on the existing "Victorian" league right here...

Would you have seabl discussions in a BigV thread? No.
NO need for cluttering up the new competition with what is really non relevant crud.

Booohoooooo wah wah wah
Big bunch of babies.
Triggered by the BIGV

Chelsea has not been notified like the rest. You presume they will be in SCM as they won Div 1 and applied to go up. As far as I am aware no other Big V Club has had the official word. Lets hope it real soon

"Colin will join Corey Standerfer at the Nest as the two imports for their men's team who will move up a division after winning last season’s Division One Men championship."

http://websites.sportstg.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-68-0-0-0&sID=60616&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=63575683

Derrrrr that's what happens with promotion and relegation. Pretty simple I would have thought

Keysy are too small to play state champ, at least Chelsea have the size to compete

So whats all this fantasy stuff got to do with the topic?

How is Keysie to small to compete it's called signing players for the next year some of y’all are stupid I tell you. Skill and coaching trumps a lot of size. Plenty of teams where bigger and there players couldn’t wall and chew bubble gum at the same time let alone where ever good enough or could ever be good enough to play college basketball in America. But hey that good ole size gets you far now days that’s why so many teams are bad because they will take a 6"9 guy who sucks over a 6”7 guy who is way better.

Why on earth would Keysy get in over Bulleen? Bulleen are the biggest club outside of the new Premier league

Bulleen need to have a good hard look at themselves if they cant get back into SCM with this opportunity IMO

Being the biggest club doesn't matter if you don’t sign any players and have a terrible roster that compete why would they go up. They didn’t even make the playoffs in D1 so what makes you think they will compete in SCm if they didn’t sign any new players. Coaching and roster matters not size of the club.

NO. Nor have they explained how many imports will be allowed, nor that NBL players will be classified as imports. They haven't even got a game person in to run the competition yet. (All though advertised). Quinn isn't applying.

Corio Bay Stingrays are in SCM announced over past days. Wishing them a great season and hope they over 2 year slump.

Corio Bay are a BigV team - wrong thread. Try "BigV 2019".

I would expect the import rules to be same as past with NBL players potentially restricted based on minutes played.

Would be surprising if they didn't have someone to run the league. Silly to advertise for only 3 or 4 days if you haven't already spoken to people.

Certainly no guarantees now that all teams will fill seabl quality teams fwih.

Can anyone shed any light on,

When there will be announcements as to the structure of the VSEL? Is there any likelihood of conferences?

Bigger teams are paying up to 5 or 6 players. Will all the teams pay at least some of their starters? If not, which are likely to not have the finances?

Thanks.

"will all of the teams pay at least some of their starters"

will be a joke of an "elite" competition if they dont! would have thought that if they dont they wont be competitive and will not have licence renewed.

would like to have disclosed some of the application that were successful and convinced BV that they would have competitive teams if they are not thinking of paying any starters!!!

whole process has been an absolute joke, beginning with BA. Thought BA were supposed to be about "growing" the sport. It seems that as a result of their decision there will be a significant down grade in the quality of the "2nd tier" competition in the country if clubs are thinking on basis of some of these comments.

Not sure why the word "Senior" is used either. Sounds like a Masters event.

"Bigger teams are paying up to 5 or 6 players. Will all the teams pay at least some of their starters? If not, which are likely to not have the finances?"

Melbourne Tigers would have had a smaller budget than Ringwood, but DV and Frankston would be higher. Then Sandy, Nuna, Kilsyth and Dandy would be higher again (maybe $70-80k). The country teams go big some years and not so big other years. Albury probably about the same, Ballarat and Bendigo probably more. NW Tassie are just under the big Melb teams ($60-70k). Hobart could have been anything this year - my speculation is that Moller might have been paid more than some entire teams.

The pre-2004 BigV days saw some teams able to compete without paying anyone anything (e.g. Blackburn, DV), but those days have long gone. Few Melbourne teams then had imports (or crowds to pay for imports). Drawing in players like Luke McMillan and Daryl Corletto saw teams start to tool up to compete. Waverley started investing a lot in seniors, Melbourne and Dandenong joined BigV and the landscape changed.

Some BigV clubs spend pretty hard to entice players away from SEABL for more money and they might have hefty player budgets. Some imports are cheap as they are not here to primarily play basketball and their salaries are not dictated by the minimum requirements. Some Aussies play for the fun of it. It's hard to know exactly, so we use a little inside knowledge and a little speculation.

Expect the teams from BigV to struggle to step up their player budgets in 2019 as they just agreed to pay an extra $15K just to join this new league. To quickly find anymore money for players would be very hard. I suspect Waverley would be the exception as they have had a track record of paying players well.

thats my point, they let clubs in who will struggle to compete in a financial sense but then left out one who had not trouble at all in competing. the top end seabl clubs will still put teams on the floor of the same sort of standard as they did in seabl if other dont or cant they wont be competitive and presumably get booted. it is ridiculous.

"Hobart could have been anything this year - my speculation is that Moller might have been paid more than some entire teams"
Dumbest quote of the year. Clearly you are simple guessing with no knowledge of what clubs really pay.

Geelong CEO Dean Anglin will be in charge of the new elite league

So you don't think Hobart offered something like $25K for Moller to leave Ballarat? That would have covered Melbourne's team last year.

Yeah the SEABL MVP Wilson played for free and Barlow and Trist. Go away.

Hooley was on the big money at Ballarat, Moller could've gone to nznbl but Anthony Stewart persuaded him to Hobart, obviously he got paid. Smart investment they won the competition.

Didn't Trist play for Frankston?

was anglin part of the lead on moving seabl away from BA, which ultimately lead to its demise? If so perhaps it is Basketball Victoria (the ultimately benefactors) rewarding him for those efforts?????

Brain fart sorry. Wilson Melb. Barlow Sabres and Trist Frankston. Oooooops.

Try Acouth and DKD. Certainly Melbourne had a small budget but I would be surprised if its wasn't a lot mote than $20k or so.

Moller was a key player with the Chargers as was Muo and Nichols all combining into a great championship unit. But their spend on players was still a lot less then some teams.

Anglin is a good choice to lead the new league. Smart operator and knows what clubs want and need from the league. Hope he does well.

So Melbourne had three nbl players including the mvp (lol) and couldn't make the finals, probably hand the pay back that’s how they played for nothing.

Where will MVP Nelson Kirksey land? Will he stay with Hawthorn SCM or jump to the new elite league?

He sucked when he played for Kilsyth in the SEABL so who knows.

North West look in trouble to be competitive as do the Torns. Sharing games is a joke. 6 home (doubles) games each. Trying to recruit imports and Aussies with effectively 1/2 their gate takings.

Maybe Kirksey shows the difference between leagues. Did he win MVP at both SA Premier League and BigV SCM? And in between was sacked mideseason at SEABL.

Correct ^

not sure how Kirksey won the MVP, he is lazy. Doesn't work hard enough off the ball to get shots, and doesn't defend. His man would score as many as him..... maybe that's why he is so valuable, valuable to the opposition

shows how silly the "selection team" was with the elite competition. letting in nwt and torns but on a basis that makes it almost financially impossible for both and then leave out mount gambier (with a womens team) who had no such concerns. one wuld have liked to think that the selection team might have carried out some due dilligence (i guess never going to be donw in 3 days from submission deadline to announcement) pre determined outcome anyone??

not to worry though i hear that BA will be using the seabl funds to supplement the tassie teams and assist travel for vic teams (including those who made no contribution to the funds)

mt gambier appear destined for extinction..... what a disgrace BA.

the circumstances only get more laughable by the day.....why seabl which was highly successful (clubs wanting to join each year) and financially viable was disbanded makes less and less sense. only plausible reason seems to appease bv who were having a sook and ba pander to their every whim.

NWT will be a shadow of last season's finalist team.

Most Vic teams were sick of the high cost associated. Prior to BA advising they were pulling the pin after one more year the clubs were already discussing an exit plan. BA have been rubbish do not get me wrong but the writing had been on the wall for a while.

Daly was one of the keys in the Pioneers run of five grand finals. Any news on whether one of the teams will pick him up? Or Burdon or McDaniel?

Kirksey made a jump this year IMO compared to his Kilsyth stint. Committed to Hawthorn's free flowing system- and was able to score out of this flow rather than isolation.
Wrong topic but relevant: With Hawthorn finishing top 4 last year, and the top 3 leaving to SEL: i’d put Hawthorn as favourites in the SCM.

This league will be great. Seabl plus best big v champ teams. Don't get how it wouldn't be. Great imports will be in league and lets hope AUS players stay with it.

Yeah people will be lining up to see Eltham play.

depends the flavor of basketball you like ^^ They slow it down and run their sets. Almost like a spurs type of offence. They did have that high flying import who im sure put people in the stands.

i get the vic clubs complaining about the equalisation payments but surely some open discussions between all seabl clubs this could have been easily resolved rather than back door underhanded tatics to get what they wanted. i guess doing it the other way would not have got rid of mount gambier (for the preference of four new vic clubs) which seems like it might have been the motivating factor.

I think you will find the clubs pushed it through after BA announced they would only administer the competition for 1 more year. So the clubs said stuff that and instigated it's demise immediately.

Reality.....need a name change to bs

Mount knew nothing of these discussion amongst the vic clubs to disband Seabl.

Mount were planning a women's team had begun such plannings a number of years previous.

Aware of funding pressures when teams solely funded from junior teams, perhaps why the Mount model is better as it is entirely self sufficient and should have been th e goal for vic clubs. Although when big vic clubs have playing membership bigger than the entire township of Mount understand how such a model can b difficult to emulate, just as difficult to comprehend for Mount that such vic clubs can address a shortfall by raising fees by a dollar per kid.

You suggest a typical sa attitude of whinging if you did have an understanding of the reality of what has occurred and it was to your club and they were now extinct I wonder how you might react.

You can’t justify or even come close to doing so what has happened to Mount it is simply disgraceful.

So far the competition hasn't even been endorsed by BA. It's going to be a struggle for some of the smaller clubs and the cash that is already on offer for players is ridiculous. It will become a very lopsided comp in the 1st season. Hardly good for anyone.

Mount told not in cos couldnt convince would have a competitive women's team yet above posts suggesting a number of teams in the league won’t be competitive the joke that this is continues. Perhaps ba are not going to sanction until the Mount are let into the league given the media release from coten that no team will be left out in the cold.

Kilsyth loading up already, it will be the have and have nots, after a few magnificent seabl season. Waiting to see who LJ attracts to Albury-Wodonga.

Every league is have and have nots.
Professionalism off the court helps get the product on the court.

Kudos to the BigV for stepping up and providing Mount Gambier with a lifeline. Sad that they were abandoned by BA, and their own state representatives.

Where you get information Mt in Big V SMC.Not as of last Sunday

They released article about them being invited by Basketball Victoria to play in Big V and build their women's team up so they can apply for elite league the following year.

mtg article doesnt say they are in big v just been invited to apply which they have. they might not be accepted which im guessing would be the certain death of the club.

you would hope the announcement comes soon as we are nearly at december, doesnt leave them alot of time to get a team together.

in respect of sa league doesnt say anything about its flexibility just says how shit it is. if mtg end up there they will stay for ever no chance of ever returning to to elite.

if they are allowed to play in in big v championship and dominate (which they probably will) you would think that would give them best chance to return to elite where they belong.

Mtg have just been given opportunity to apply for big v. They have taken up the opportunity
. Now they wait to see if accepted.

If by tassie teams being in trouble you are referring to the club with just a men's team and the other club with just a women’s team I think the only ones who didnt think the would both struggle after the stupid decision to make them play double headers and thus halving income was BV and Ba. Why not just play games as they all ways had.

Albury Wodonga Banditssigned American guard Ken-Jah Bosley , He played last summer at Kentucky Thoroughbreds (NAPB) in the U.S.
The list of the past achievements is quite long as among others Bosley's college team won G-MAC Tournament for two years in a row (2016 and 2017). He was also voted All-G-MAC 1st Team in 2014, 2015 and 2017.
Bosley graduated from Kentucky Wesleyan College in 2017 and it will be his second season as a professional player.

Signing announcements have been pretty quiet so far. Bosley looks like a good pick up for the Bandits.

So far there is no competition until BA endorses one.

why cant there be a competition even if ba dont endorse it??

It has to be an authorised BA competition. Pretty sure it affects players ability to play in other authorised competitions. Someone will explain it better than me I am sure.

Mount Gambier
City in South Australia

Yes I feel for players but !!!!

Why wouldn't BA endorse this league? This is exactly why they disbanded SEABL.

If you think they're going to disband the league because they want strong state leagues and then not endorse the exact competition that they wanted then you're delusional.

No one has said they won't endorse the comp. They haven't so far. Typical of BA's fumblingThunder are in trouble. Torns too. Possibly Chargers as well.

So Mt Gambier's application to play Big V has been rejected now too. Could be the death knell for the Pioneers. Real shame for everyone involved.

Wow. Will Tassie get in? Trouble in Tassie.

Sounds to me like the solution is for Mt Gambier is join the SA league. And the SA league to step up and support clubs operating in their state.

Mt Gambier announced it on their Facebook page this morning.

MEDIA RELEASE
Pioneers 'Big V' application Denied.

The Pioneers Basketball Club Board received notice early Monday that their application for Basketball Victoria's 'Big V’ competition was not considered.

Mount Gambier were presented with the opportunity to apply for Basketball Victoria’s "Big V" by the competition’s Senior Representative Commission (SRC).

The Pioneers application was also supported by Basketball Australia as being a positive way forward for the club after their application for the Senior Elite Competition was denied.

The Board of Basketball Victoria have over ruled the SRC’s consideration of the Pioneers application, advising that the BV board did not wish to change state-wide By-Laws to accept a non-Victorian affiliated entity into their state league competition.

“The news that our application wasn’t considered is hugely disappointing, once again we have been hugely let down by Basketball Australia’s decision to relinquish the SEABL competition” President Tom Kosch said. “As a board we are forced toward the realisation that a sustainable and suitable competition for our basketball club may not exist”.

The Pioneers Basketball Club’s future has been unknown since Basketball Australia (BA) announced the organisation would abandon its administration of SEABL in mid-August.

The Pioneers Board met on Monday night to discuss a plan moving forward and will provide a further update for the community in coming days.

Pretty disappointing. I can understand BV are looking out for themselves and their members, and it's not undersonable for BV to decline to change their By-Laws for a single club from another state.

However, given they've accepted teams from TAS into the new Elite League (also administered by BV) without changing the By-Laws, why would they need to in order to consider or accept Mount Gambier's application?

From what I understand you don't need to be a Victorian affiliated association to join the Elite League because it's being run by BV, not Big V.

Big V's rules state that you have to be a Victorian affiliated association to enter teams in a Big V competition so there's a big difference.

Will any Pioneers players get offers from VSEL teams?

You say they wanted state leagues please explain how the elite league is a state league when there are teams from three states????

15 round competition
8 team finals
Single finals games
All games live-streamed
GF at State Centre

Gotta love the enthusiasm of the Victorian Senior League. That's the first joke.
The competition hasn't been formalised yet we now have a draw.
There is every chance that 2 Tassie teams may be out.

Have heard one of the Tassie teams may not go ahead in the new league due to finances. Would think the new league would then take one of the applicants from Big V who missed out.

Would leave SCM with only 8 teams. Hardly a comp

How likely is it that a Tassie team will pull out?

Very likely!

Scm would then be best to merge with D1M and have 22 teams in 2 conferences.

Makes sense. Obviously if teams that didn't make finals are complaining they missed out on SCM they think they could be playing that level

The NWBU fund the local comp and players that essentially "play for free" for The Thunder.
It's been suggested that their competition will be run this season on Tuesday and Friday. Thereby making many Thunder players unavailable for this new competition. Coupled with 1/2 the number of home games, double headers and having to split the income the Thunder will be under the pump. So to the Torns.

I'm sure Casey would jump at the opportunity.

Casey already in talks about it.

Lol

Torns have already asked ;)

Things seem pretty quiet on the recruiting front for this time of year.

Albury/Wodonga seem to be the only ones making announcements at the moment with another one last night. Cirkook Riak from the QBL.

Anyone have any other news?

Ringwood signed import Joey Miller, played d league for knicks. Looks to be a solid pg/sg

Article released stating the Southern Huskies will have starting 5 of Moller, Bragg, Mathiang, Froling, and import.

What players are left for Hobart and North-West to get?

Also President of Hobart states in interview that BTas hasn't signed off in Tassie Clubs playing in Victoria Elite League.

That side above is wrong.

https://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/5795548/bragg-prepared-for-huskies-opportunity

Who will replace Hobart?

Will other tassie teams be forced to pull out as well? If so who replaces them?

Not looking to elite anymore, no mount gambier or Hobart, at least a vic club will have a win.

There will be no replacement team. Sorry Casey and Hume City. Email from BV to clubs today.

This whole thing is an epic balls up.

BigV if had any ambition would re brand immediately to the 'Big South' League and get the TAS and MT G in.

SNAFU.

With clubs such as Diamond Valley, Melbourne Tigers, Eltham, Frankston, Sandringham, Waverley etc she may be titled Victorian Elite but it's not going to be very elite in product.

Its not a lack of ambition I think from the BigV it always comes down to cost for teams to travel and spend money on players.

I agree the game day product is pretty poor in SCM, Eltham were ok during the finals series but, when you thin about Nunawadings light show and the tasmania teams NBL style stadiums it just compare to an elite league.

Clubs need to step up in the product they produce as well as the team, and I will say right now ITS NOT HARD OR EXPENSIVE simple lighting or sound systems along with encouraging juniors to attend games is a winner for everyone!

One way to get juniors and their families to attend and create a good vibe is to get their senior players involved with the junior teams. I know if a couple of clubs doing this with great results with one club having half about 5 or 6 of their players coaching or helping out with teams. Creates a good family culture.

Albury/Wodonga still leading the way with player signing announcements. Mitchell Newton returning.

Any news from the other teams at all?

All of this carry on about Mt Gambier, perhaps they should join the SA Elite League, after all that's the actual State they are based in !!

Except SA doesn't have an Elite State League. But rather a metro club competition that won’t accept them.

How many times does this need to be said!

^ are you sure about that #943?

Maybe you can have a league name, but right now there wouldn't / can't be a draw because of the Tassie debacle.

One thing I have learned over this process is that the Victorian structure is different from other states (e.g. SA Premier not a State League and Tasmanian clubs not being associations).

I truly hope BV are not trying to impose their structure upon other states. We can see here how defensive people get when Victorians suggest their way to be the 'right' way.

It is important that we have diversity and allow different regions to put their slant on the game. The overall framework within Australia should be focused as much as possible on inclusion rather than finding reasons to exclude (disappointingly many recent examples).

Strange part is and barltet hasn't mentioned it but they thought they were compliant. Idiots.

Well said Bear.

Now if we can just completely overlook a scrawny mob like Mt Gambier who will spend Christmas fighting for their survival, we can all settle down and enjoy our Chrissie pudding.

BA, BV and some seabl clubs have blood on their hands - or do you know better? If so, enlighten us please.

Oh, and have a Merry Xmas, and enjoy your chill time.

Chill time hardly.
Chargers now want back in. Believe it or not.

Geelong Super Cats Team list:

Demarcus Gatlin*
Second Import*
Malo Hicks
Nathan Friend
Liam McInerney
Nick Owusu
Michael Rebula
Lewis Varley
Cohen Blythe
Lewis Thomas-from Hobart

Well said Bear. All involved should just relax, take a 'chill pill' and not worry that the Elite League has no name, no website, no fixture, and seemingly no direction at this point. I am sure the "organisers" have it all under control.

So Bear do you support any team in your local area?

Geelong have signed AJ Williams as their second import. 5'10 point guard. Ordinary numbers in college but looks ok. Would be a budget signing you would think.

Albury/Wodonga making another big announcement tonight.

I've heard, not certain how true though
Pineau to tigers
Smith-Milner, Kilsyth
Hooley, Kilsyth .

Do you have anything to do with this new League at all?

Where will Sam McDaniel and Sam Daly play?

Albury/Wodonga have signed Nat Hurst. She will be awesome for them. Exactly what they need.

D Day for the Chargers future. If the Chargers won't endorse the Huskies to take over their teams then there will be no Chargers team in the new competition. Meeting of the Chargers Board at midday.

Just remember it's not about The Huskies Bartlett.

With a SGM looming the members need to vote the board out and take control back.

Geelong have signed Zitina Aokuso. Really good pick up for them.

How do Geelong remain competitive whilst seemingly paying very little to their players?

Or is there a bit more to it?

Pretty sure Geelong wouldn't be near the bottom of the league when it comes to player payments. Certainly not up with the Kilsyth's and Bendigo's but a long way ahead of the Albury/Wodonga's and Sandringham's of the league.

@ Reality, Geelong certainly not a one club city. Yes Supercats have all the bells and whistles but with the exception of the past 2 seasons Corio have a place in the region as does Bellarine. Supercats has a long history but never write off small associations for what they bring to grass roots basketball.

So Geelong not being entirely honest about how much they pay players then?

Pretty sure you've got no idea anon. Albury/Wodonga would have the lowest player budget in the league by far.

average? $300k I reckon.

Draft Elite League Fixture is out to all the clubs. Well done to Dean Anglin and Team, super job so far.

Why did waverley sign two former D1 imports for the new elite league?

Because they are good enough. And also Waverley wouldn't be taking risk on not knowing what they get

So D1 imports are good enough to play at new elite league level?

Well when SEABL and scm are only allowed two per team there's naturally going to be a flow in effect and best imports at d1 are just as credentialed.
Travis D2 Nat champ and all American candidate and mcwhorter was naia player of the year. They aren’t spuds.

The Draft fixture is out. But it is obviously very much in DRAFT form. Lots of feedback still required from Clubs and many changes will need to be made. Very much a 'work in progress' it is fair to say.

D1 has had some great imports in recent years. Blount, Lemons, Coleman, Standerfer, Travis, Vines, Bozeman. All these names can play state champ/elite league/seabl

Cant play seabl mate

Based on what?
What are usual credentials of SEABL imports compared to these guys mentioned?

The seabl come is dead mate.

SEABL is done. There are no SEABL teams, no SEABL players, etc. Its over, a thing of the past. The ex SEABL teams now play in the league with NO NAME.

Ringwood have resigned Jacob Gibson.

Gun of a shooter!! Will ringwood be competitive with the roster they have?

VSEABL could be a good name no
Need for a new website

Albury wodonga have been making some good signings it seems. Deba returns for another season

Ellie Collins signs with the Hobart Huskies. Good pick up for them. She was great in the grand final last year.

Classy of the Tornadoes to wish her all the best. Looks like she's moved to Hobart for uni.

Hobart have now signed Tayla Roberts too. Another quality big. Interesting to see how she and Collins play together. Both big solid post players.

Who's Lachlan Barker & why would he want to play for Franga?

Damon Bozeman to sign with Frankston!

Hobart Huskies women sign former Torns players (both ex Chargers players) Tayla Roberts and Ellie Collins. All they need now is a Coach.

Thought he must be someone good seeing you have his name in Caps

Thunder sign Nick Banyard.
https://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/5835527/thunder-get-their-inside-man-for-new-season/?cs=88&fbclid=IwAR0DhTFuM8-67oSfbv8PErFktF3VE9Z4UjvICCaAEMg0_B6WqdANlSQtnk4

BTW. The name was in caps from where I copied it from. No conspiracy stuff here. Are you that paranoid?

Barker is good BTW.

Hobart Lady Huskies have Head Coach

Ok, more info please, Where did he pkay last season?

Barker is a Sydney Kings development player.

Launceston have signed import guard Stephanie Gardner.

Few signings being announced now. Kathleen Scheer to Nunawading.

Scheer is a champ and after 5 years with the Chargers it will be a shame to see her in another teams colours.Thanks David Barlett.

NW Thunder announce second import Jordan Bowling.

Willie Joseph is coaching the Huskies women. Former Chargers player and women's team coach.

Willie Joseph may be coaching the Huskies women. Former Chargers player and former Chargers women's team coach.

Corrected for accuracy.

As I said, Willie Joseph IS coaching the Huskies women. Confirmed.

Announced today, officially.

Hobart Huskies to soon announce a massive import recruit.

Men or women?

Quick question around the name of the league.
Will a relaunch with a new name take place , is the hold up design, wed page or BA approval of name ?. Any one from the league heard.

Men. He should be playing for the Southern Huskies but in fairness to the Hobart Huskies this will be a huge signing for them.

Any news on signings from eltham bendigo sandringham Knox ??? Imports ??

Eltham to resign their freakishly athletic import Josh Sykes

The hobart Huskies import may not get to the shores of Tassie.
Lots of big $'s on offer from the Kiwis it seems.

Eltham have signed US import Maggie Mulligan. Looks pretty handy. 6'3 centre. Averaged 11 boards per game at UMass.

Hobart have announced Zac White as their first import signing. Have indicated that they probably won't sign another import so the previous post about a massive signing could be way off the mark.

Very good signing for Hobart, integral part last season. Have not seen it announced anywhere though?

Adam Doyle signed to Eltham.

Eltham announced today on their Facebook page

The import I alluded to and may not now get signed was for the Southern Huskies. My error.
Every chance the Hobart Huskies will sign a current Aussie NBL player.

will kendle return with turner?

Haven't the Southern Huskies already got two imports? Billups and Nicholls?

Hearing Bendigo chasing nbl player from Melbourne United. Nznbl opening there cheque books for a few nbl players.

Zac White's signing was announced on Win News in Hobart.

Froling is also counted as an import in nznbl. White a very good pick up for Hobart Huskies.

I believe the Hobart Huskies have indeed signed the outstanding player in question earlier. My error again. Hobart Huskies and Southern Huskies. PLus Lady Hobart Huskies. No wonder I am confused.

Waverley will be just fine in new comp

Diamond Valley have announced the re-signing of Darcy Harding and the signing of Ben Allen.

Harding hasn't lived up to his potential yet. Allen will be handy but they’ll need a fair bit more if they want to challenge the better teams.

0-24 and Allen still gets a gig. Easy W's first all.

The overall standard of the competition will need to drop considerably from that of SEABL, for these new teams to be at all competitive.

Recruiting is very unimpressive. Bottom 6 to 10 teams will be very ordinary.

Jamison from mount going to afl Canberra. Hobart premiership team won't look anything near what they had last season. Think a few from seabl will be heading to nz.

HObart will recruit a local import. Exciting. Plus Zac White.

"Local import" What does that mean?

Southern Huskies to play 5 games @ The Silverdome and 4 @ The DEC.
Cant post the link for some reason. From today's Examiner.

Frankston have a number of other "exciting announcements to come" according to the media release .... wonder if this includes a new GM ?

The league with no name will be dominated by half a dozen teams, most of which won't be from metropolitan Vic.

With more teams and less talent to spread around, it will be a shadow of seabl and nothing more than the best of the state leagues. And maybe struggling to stay ahead of the QBL.

Eltham re signed high flyer josh Sykes. I don't know the import situation at waverley or DV ?

Eltham have added an NBL player in Doyle.
Home Stadium has had significant upgrades done it meets requirements

Moeller is on 13.8 minutes per game with 8 games of the season remaining, won't get near the 7.5 minutes. Wonder if he’ll end up Kilsyth with hooley and scheuler. Ballarat and Bendigo haven’t made any announcement yet.
When is there going to announcement of competition name and web site put up.

Doyle badly found out last time in seabl. Maybe he's improved and the vic league might not be quite as challenging for him.

Love how the name has changed from SEABL to something else, with basically same teams and some added, and people think it's going to be lesser quality.

Love your belief in your own opinion which is clearly based on little information.

Reality what's the issue with their Stadium?

Still a high school gym?

Still better than Waverley.

what does sharing a facility with a school have to do with the stadium being suitable or not? Sounds like perfect business sense, more venues should do it.

Doyle averaged 15 and 5. Guess the bloke should retire

What are the stadium requirements?

sealed timber court with line markings?
rims on glass backboards?
scoreboard, shot clocks
score bench and stats
seating for 400+
change rooms directly linked to court
canteen

there could be several stadiums that don't meet this...
- Ringwood wouldn't have 400 seats in their stand
- access to change rooms, there would be numerous clubs that you have to work half way around the stadium through the crowd to get to a change room

Decent run off all around. A full sized court?

Why so many teams yet to make announcements?

A lot of teams yet to finish their teams or even be half way finish.

Challenge for Doyle. He struggled to play extended minutes effectively against the seabl guards in his previous attempt.

Can he run a successful team in the new seabl lite league?

No hurry at all. March is a way to go yet.

Fixtures are out. Unsure if its the final version. Perhaps out for 2 weeks?

Where ^^^^^ is there a web site.

Can you view fixtures publicly anywhere?

Fixtures aren't 100% finalised yet. Should be out in the next week or so I believe.

Ballarat have signed US import Marqueze Coleman. 6'4 combo guard.

Averaged 19ppg in Portugal last year.

What happened to Frankstons GM???

Frankston have been on a downward spiral ever since Simon Mitchell ruined the club

Albury/Wodonga signing Lauren Jackson and Nat Hurst have been the biggest signings for me. If Jackson is able to play as she's said she hopes to it'll be huge for them. They're coming from a long way back so it probably doesn't make them title contenders but will certainly give them a massive boost.

The lack of other big name signings so far has been the biggest surprise. Especially with the four teams that have come up from Big V. I think they're all in for a rude shock once the season starts.

Knox rumoured to have signed Jeremy kendle along with an nbl big.

Frankston have been an embarrassment for the last 8 years...hopefully now with a new CEO coming on board they can move forward.

Latest rumour I'm hearing is that BV are just going to run with 'League With No Name' (LWNN), as the name.

Most imports are with their clubs now or are landing to join pre season training shortly. Any word on practice games in Feb???

Dandenong have no signed players.

Not a good sign for the program

Big V with Tassie and COE League.

When will Big V release the outcome of their investigation into Frankston ?
Nervous times for the President !!

Yep it's a Basketball Victoiria issue ... and a big one!

Hobart Huskies have signed their 2nd import.

Who ?

Wait until it's official.

Frankston sign Taylor Lee
Frankston sign Joanna Smith (Import)

Do we know what date the season starts?

30th March

29th March. Three games on the Friday night to start the season.

.?? Draw ! Is there a web site, hard to find anything.

I have a copy of the draw. Don't know how to post it here.

Why did Frankston get rid of Bennie Lewis. He was coming off his most efficient statiscal year and adapted his game when Trist came into the mix.

He shopped himself around probably like he does most years.

Why do Frankston have a new team every year with no home grown talent?

Stay tuned for some interesting off court news out of Franga. Lucky there's a station opposite ... Perfect for the karma train to stop at !!

Lewis was talking to bigv teams aswell.

Will Blackburn D2W be the favourite to take the next step and take it all out in 2019? They had a fairytale rise and nearly knocked of Craigienburn in the final. Wallan will no doubt be up there along with Melbourne University

Not sure too many people in the Victorian Senior Elite League thread care too much about Big V D2 Women.

Lauren Nicholson has signed with Kilsyth. Big pick up for the Cobras being the reigning SEABL MVP.

Not sure how the Torns cover the loss of Nicholson, Lauren Mansfield and Ellie Collins. Could be a tough year for them.

None of the Tassie teams look that great at the moment. Still early I guess but they won't want to finish near the bottom of the ladder. Pretty sure there will be calls to cull them from the league if they're not pushing for finals. Time will tell.

Hearing a whisper that Knox have signed Marena Whittle and Lauren Scherf. Can anyone confirm?

Ask your source to talk louder

Can confirm Whittle to Knox.

Why would she leave Nunawading??

Also... Paul Flynn seems to bring in a new team every year to Nunawading. Is there no home grown talent anymore?

Or is the coach the reason they don't stay?

Flynn brings in a new team every year? Only 2nd year in the job. you make no sense.

Have you considered Nunawading didn't want Whittle?

Flynn has been involved with senior player signings for the last 4-5 years since his return to the club. Yes he has only been the head coach recently though.

It just seems that he brings in talent from other clubs more often than elevating his own juniors. And then this talent does not seem to stay for more than a season. Lots of turnover. Not a criticism, just an observation.

Any early favorites for championship?

Men
Kilsyth
Women
Kilsyth

Hobart have signed Cayla George. Big pick up for them but a strange signing seeing as they already have Tayla Roberts and Ellie Collins signed.

She wouldn't have come cheap. I would have thought signing a guard with that money would've been a bigger priority with those other two bigs already under contract.

The Huskies obviously aren't scared to throw the cash at these Hobart teams as well as the NZNBL team. Men have been pretty quiet on the recruiting front so far though.

Hobart have signed Cayla George. Big pick up for them but a strange signing seeing as they already have Tayla Roberts and Ellie Collins signed.

She wouldn't have come cheap. I would have thought signing a guard with that money would've been a bigger priority with those other two bigs already under contract.

The Huskies obviously aren't scared to throw the cash at these Hobart teams as well as the NZNBL team. Men have been pretty quiet on the recruiting front so far though.

Sorry, not sure why that posted twice.

Cayla is playing 4 games to cover their import and before going back to WNBA.

Cayla is a welcome return to Hobart.
Hobart Men's team are done and Southern Huskies almost done.

So what happened to the Hobart men's second import that we keep hearing about on here?

Trist gone to Europe for season start.

Hobart's 2nd import was mentioned once here. The official announcement is still yet to come. Maybe it's fallen through and they are looking for another player.?

"Hobart Huskies to soon announce a massive import recruit."

"I believe the Hobart Huskies have indeed signed the outstanding player in question earlier. "

"Hobart Huskies will sign two imports (one will be the gun out of NZ)"

"Hobart Huskies have signed their 2nd import."

There's at least four mentions about the Hobart import. Just curious as to whether it's still happening. Not having a shot at anyone, just curious.

No triat leaves Frankston seriously thin up front. Backcourt will be as good as anyone though

NBL 1 could be the new competition name. Plus one game a week on FTA.

So is Trist not playing for Frankston this year?

Misses first 7 games I'm hearing.

NBL1 it is.

Been on the cards for a while. I know of at least one other club was very interested in him.

Frankston shaping up a decent roster.
Hope they can make a run at the finals this year.

Frankston is going to have a hell of a year.

Why even bother. Seriously. He top scored last season in the SEABL and was effectively sacked from the United. Go figure.

Have most teams signed their imports yet?

I believe Frankston have signed Alister McDonald.

Any news out of Sandringham men or women?

Dave Anderson signed in France so no Blues for him.

Hobart Huskies lose their 'local' player.

Have to love their press release....must of been written by the former GM thanking himself for his achievements which is ZILCH!!!

Having your 18.1's drop to metro 4 is a huge achievement

List of achievements:

No new stadium
Lost funding for new stadium
Arguably the worst SEABL program in the last 7 years
Basketball Victoria investigation
Club governance raised in Victorian Parliament


and thats just for starters...

Majok has been touting him self to ever NBL1 club. No one wanted him except Franga so I would expect him to be cheap.

Any news from practice games over the weekend? I know there were a few games at Bendigo.

What a fall from grace is Majok.

Frankston cashed up after losing stadium deal. Paying overs for players as nobody wants to go there. Only started training properly 2 weeks ago. Will be dropping back to Big V next year.

Any Dandenong or Hobart signings?

I suspect Hobart are in trouble. Zac White as a returning import and that's all.
NO PG.

Predictions for the season ahead?

Men

Champions Kilsyth
Wooden Spoon Hobart
MVP Ray Turner (Bendigo)

Women

Champions Geelong
Wooden Spoon Ringwood
MVP Bec Cole (Dandenong)

Headline Travel costs force Tassie teams out of NBL1 2020.

In the women.

Geelong will be very good this year. Will be a little weak in the guard department once Shelley leaves for college.

Moneybags Knox will think they are a chance but with only 1 ball on the court and being full of egos will make finals but not the big dance.

Cole will not play enough games to win MVP with Opals and 3x3 commitments this season.

Frankston Wooden Spoon for me.

Hate to think how much Knox are spending on their women's team. I agree about the egos. Not sure how Scherf and Whittle will mesh.

Make up your mind. Clubs don't spend money on their teams and they’re accused of not taking it seriously and you say they shouldn’t be there.

Not knowing the players, I don’t know about egos, but I’d jump on the ring road if you want to bash clubs for spending money.

Very much doubt Hobart will be bottom.

Dandenong has signed Dexter Kernich-Drew but haven't heard anything else. Venky Jois is a former junior? Keli Leaupepe, Tyler Robertson etc. should be back although they may be leaving for college?

Couple of handy late signings for the Rangers with DKD and Kenyon. Have they announced any import signings?

wasn't Kenyon play afl

Is there a Media Guide or anywhere we can view the Team Lists for NBL1?
The promotion of this so called elite league is underwhelming to say the least.

Is there a Media Guide available anywhere or access to team lists?
Couldn't find anything other than links to the club sites on the website.
The promotion of this new league is underwhelming to say the least.

Agree with all the above, bring back seabl. :(

Nope.

Can we get a new TOPIC for NBL1 please?

Hobart Huskies have a 2 page colour spread on page 2 -3 today.