Yes have heard similar stories coming out of tiger land

Not everything is smooth sailing in the North & West men's camps, so I've been told...

I think there are a lot of people now giggling with the thought in their head "told you so!" Several clubs already in trouble after financial mismanagement relating to player salaries (predominantly imports). But no BAdel knew better.

Oh oh. Not smooth sailing at North or West men's programs, so someone has been told........
Anyone know any facts about the off-season so far?

Any coaches been announced on women's side apart from KB and Jones?

Bello at Eagles. Assume you mean Joynes

Will any imports return or will we see a whole new batch?

will the sun rise in the west tomorrow and settle in the east

Exactly, west seem like a tight core group. Southern seem to have great sponsorship and unless Alex is really pissed off, who cares about rest at North, they'd be bottom 3 without him.
Does anyone know when the Summer reserves season starts, heard they're going back to 13 game season. Would imagine most squads would start training soon so the coaches should get announced soon.

Southern to fall off & miss finals? North as stated above will be fine as long as they have Alex, his teams have never missed finals. West would want to retain Kubank and Thomas to stay competitive or get Spear back.

Think South and Sturt will be the big improvers.

How are some clubs going to cope with the proposed new by laws including salary caps and minimum playing times for restricted players? Will be interesting if the "poorer" clubs vote for these changes to rein in the Norwood's, Forestvilles and Tigers of this world

"proposed"

Proposed by hoops posters or the bylaw committee?

By the by-law committee.

I think a salary caps a good idea, but shouldn't be anything about restricted players minimum minutes. Don’t think the other teams gonna mind if your best players only on for 10 seconds.

Except when they play 80 seconds in a season then beat you in finals!

Who is the by law committee?

DJ?

They would need to pick up more than a couple of players!

80 seconds is in reference to the comment above saying who cares if they best player only plays 10 seconds each game.

Is this correct for coaches:

Same
Sturt
North
Southern
Forestville
Woodville
Centrals
West
Eastern

New
South - Jamie Petty
Norwood - ??

South picking up anyone we've heard of?

South picking up some uniSa div 4 women, projected to start.

Women's side, North have Joynes and Centrals KB, Woodville and West still to announce.

South will make a splash!

South would barely make a splash if they let some of their men's bench start for the women.

Splash hitting the toilet water!!!!

Hmm splash as in spencer I would think

Anyone know why spencer didn't sign again with Bendigo

Rumour has it that Larkins will go to the Tigers

The Tigers stack their team with good players. Not sure how Larkins fits into that plan.

Larkins only coming to tigers so his dad can pay for the pool being installed in sams Hackham West mansion.

fair amount of premier league players are also gonna be playing in the SAABL as well, will be on the look out for them

Like who? Please elaborate...

not sure the exact people but, a lot of younger players were playing in the winter season while the ABA season was still on, so in the summer it would just make more sense for them to keep playing

Cmon people, there's gotta be something juicy about player movements, import selections (is it still too early?) and club drama!!

Haha love how people think southern are out of money. Incorrect! They still have it, but have chosen to spend it on a big 3 combo. 3 players who have all been all-star 5 and 2 of those were league MVP's! Southern to win the men’s again next season

Name names for this southern big 3!

Building quality teams!!! Unbelievable, buying quality teams more like it!!!

Ha ha ha ha, emulate, ha ha, building, ha.
That's some funny shit right there.

Sounds like Southern might bring back Johns and Turnage but not sure who with 3rd could be. Maybe Nwelue back.

Drimic taking up a restricted spot, therefore only the "big 3" as they will have to sacrifice an import for him.

That will make them small and shallow you'd think. Barely a playoff team?

Something big to centrals, can you be anymore vague!!! Another clue maybe

North Women to go undefeated for next 10 yrs......... If they spend same amount as Southern Men.

Chewie you weren't at Souths trainings, you are full of it

North's women losing at least three of their top 6.

Hodges heading home then. She is a Sturt junior and bleeds blue.

Hodges heading home then. She is a Sturt junior and bleeds blue.

Hopefully Drmic is back so he can have another HUGE performance in the Grand Final!

D R M I C

Wow, that was inciteful spelling a players name in capitals and spaces inbetween. Or is it the average Southern fans IQ test to spell players names, Sam's must have been too hard and got confused because didn't know if Johns was first name or surname.

I'm the words of meatloaf... don’t be sad. Cause 2 outta 3 ain’t bad.

Anyway let’s add fuel to the Larkins at tigers thing. He gonna be backing up staude surely!

Can someone tell me why Larkins gets a gig while Johns still DP ? I don't get it

The new southern president who replaced the one that was removed won't allow all this spending to continue, women’s coach been told her budgets been slashed I imagine the men’s coach would have been told the same. I will say deano will go running to a new JDO position as soon as one comes available

Reckon there's only one JDO actively looking for a new role but isn’t looking within SA.

Larkins has a surname and Johns has skill. Which one do you think is more important to Joey?

I thought (was told by Southern supporters) the team got a whole bunch of sponsors. Why can't they spend the money they manage to bring in?

Sturt??

Yep Sturt.

He is referring to Sturt.

plenty of demerit points to be racked up on the drive down south every training

How many clubs has Hatchard been at.

North, Sturt & Crows?

And what is the issue with Hatchard moving clubs ? Most senior players have or will at some point change clubs for whatever reason that is relevant to them. Its life. If you watch anything other than local basketball then negative comments about player movement is hypocrisy because you are watching players who have all made moves that fit or give opportunity or was the only opportunity at that time. Stop making judgements for the sake of it and get a life or at least think beyond what is in front of your nose and expand your ideas and understanding of moves in isolation or as part of a bigger picture. Be smart and think a little. Should I write a list of all players movements in the local comp and your movements perhaps too ?

Someone has struck a raw nerve there!! I guess you have loyal people to your club and team or you blame your teamS and clubS and keep moving. You can list all the clubs I have been with and you only need one line!!!

I'd think it’s only interesting as her step dad coaches Sturt (if I’m not mistaken)

Whatever you think :)

Woodville women's coach announced to the players Friday evening... Thought I misread it, maybe it was a telegram sent from 1995. Maybe it was a "Flashback Friday".

so who is it

Mike Osborne, last coached Noarlunga men in the 90's? Could be mistaken. If it’s the same guy? May just be similar name.

Same guy.

Walking frame at training

No matter the coaching appointment, if your roster is trash, you're gonna be hampered. Too much separation between the top and bottom teams in both the men and women’s because some teams have neglected player development or neglected their senior program.

News from Woodville womens first training last night, the new coach was unveiled to them and used his initial speech to inform the ladies that they would be coaching themselves until January.

"If you need me, I'll be on the golf course", were his words.

Interesting take considering the state of the Womens program recently. I'd have thought it would be a perfect opportunity to take charge now and really try to get those ladies working to his game styles etc.

Until they get a coach that wants to take Womens basketball serious, unfortunately I fear for that side of the club.

what a rabble if true

From more than one of the players mouth's to those words typed above!

Games start next week.

Mass exodus for one of the women's clubs it seems.

Top 5 could be very different next year.

You're wasting everyone’s time writing nothing comments like that. Name teams or piss off

Yeah, name them!!!!!

My mail is a few Southern Tigers girls looking elsewhere.

Have seen Spear is back in town any news if hes playing back in Adelaide?

West could be stronger than their 2017 title team.

Your mail about tigers women is correct, fleeing like rats on a sinking ship

Who have West added to make them stronger than that team!?

Joel Spear apparently.

laughing my ass off at that notion...

Spear for Thomas is an upgrade.

Spear back because both his sisters are getting married this month

Spear is looking for a gig overseas, last I heard.

That's laughable, Spear for Thomas is certainly not an upgrade. Both bring different skill sets. Spear a SG stuck in a PG body.

nah Callan Prider/Burns out at Eastern will be more dangerous than west

League Pass, I can't tell if you're trolling or not. Best 1-2 combo in the State? Spear is good but cmon....

Johns/Staude/Burns probably still the best guard combo in the league I'd say.

Take Burns over Larkins

Not many starters I wouldn't take over Larkins

CJ Reed vs Larkins?

Tigers women looking likely to finish as wooden spooners next season, many players leaving

why?

Need cash for the Burns family private seats in the stadium

Hammer Burns hasn't shown anything in the last couple of years. Was highly touted as a junior.

5 players have left the tigers because of lack of money and dislike of the coach

5 players have left because they want to play curling, lacrosse and roller derby!

This statement holds the same credibility as the one above.

thanks tracey

Anyone know how many Forestville ladies are off to college? Interested to see what recruits Mons signs after the success of Ireland and Nairn last season.

Tracy has done well with the Tigers program but think her time might be up. Everything has a shelf life.

she had a huge budget and recruited a stack of players, no development of juniors and now with budget reduced and players leaving no replacements from within the ranks

Exactly same pattern/problems with their men's program too.

Will their budget remain the same levels as the past 3 years in order to keep the status quo? Will it be dropped like the women's budget too?

Tigers men losing players too?

I wonder how many mavs players have walked? From the resigning of a subpar coach

Tracey has no juniors to develop. That ship sailed long ago. No u18 girls team last year, hardly have one this year. Forestville had 4 u18s playing PL - 2 of them starters. (Not sure the next crop will be as good though). Can t blame Tracey for poor club management and development. Might have to poach juniors from somewhere else to get the no cost players - just like many of the other clubs. Be thankful they aren't Woodville!

Mavs players wouldn't get a game higher than div 1 men at other clubs.

You'd think some mavs players would've walked

^^

How would you say the Mavs PLs would do against the adelaide uni team?(last years div 1 mens winners i think)

Without imports? Close game. Southern Tigers won div 1 by the way.

Oh yeah fair, all i know was adelaide uni made finals lol, thanks for clarifying

So if Tracey not responsible for developing juniors who is, coaching director??

2 mavs PL players moving to Adelaide Uni for summer season funnily enough. Seems to be the new place to get a gig

Summer season, huh? Don't these players get any rest in SA?

Oh really? hahahha thats actually pretty ironically funny

Tigers girls with first u18 team in a few years this year on girls side. Not Tracy's fault. Has taken a few years but junior girls program on track and should produce some senior players going forward.

Always competitive??? Wasn't until they started splashing money about!!! Same with the men

Better than some other clubs who splash money and still aren't competitive!

got no money to splash anymore

SA just dont have enough quality coaches for the amount of talent tbh

Centrals imports will be back, just need a little bit of help and they might win a few more games. Maybe those disaffected at other clubs should head up North.

Who would you say are quality coaches in PL?

Both centrals imports coming back? I thought they could do better...

SA has plenty of quality coaches, problem is if you're not in the cool kids group and if you don’t agree with the whole every team should run the same programme you don’t get a look in on any state positions which then in turn affects your ability to get PL jobs

Which PL coaches aren't up to it in your opinion? Some of the lower profile ones are actually some of the better ones I’d say.

The whole State thing is such an elitist club. Been stale for too long and needs new ideas and fresh blood in there. Instructions on how to run teams is sent from top and trickles down, is flow still the in thing???
High performance manager should have a 5 year contract and then should be replaced, then they can go off and not have a conflict of interest at private schools. Problem with a lot of clubs is that committees have no idea about basketball, see on a resume something about being involved in a state program and think they have to be amazing coach. Shudder to think how one of the new PL coaches will go, can't coach his way out of a wet paper bag but gets hired. Too many sycophants at state all worried about brown nosing than actually bringing in new perspectives.

he got hired by his mate who is now the assistant coach

Are we talking south Adelaide?

Winner winner

re the mavs vs adl uni discussion

The uni team just flogged a team containing some mavs players in the SAABL

thats something

That Uni team would make finals in reserves.

Speaking of, will teams suit up their real teams on Tuesday or will we see a bunch of YL guys in ressies?

So basically better than mavs PL? their PL team couldnt make reserves finals

Have heard North have lost a starter but already replaced him with someone better?

^ Names or you're just a dad stirring shit.

Brad Jonnek has left

Thank you! Who have they replaced him with?

One of the Woodville guards.

Define "better" in this context.

James Peters >>> Brad Jonnek.

I heard back to Forestville but then I heard South so not 100% sure.

South coach having a crack at everyone!

South willing to throw $$ at Jonnek, Forestville aren't. Don't know what he chose though.

Petty comes from Southern, thinks he has the Southern budget!

Gee, better must have a new definition now! What did he do at Woodville?

Yeah Jonnek has got that one covered!

For some money is greater than loyalty!!

Jonnek came a long way being developed by Hawkes. From no-one to starter on a very decent program. Always been talented but went to another level while at North.
Sad to see him put money first. Will be interesting to see how he goes at South.

The people saying North will keep everyone with Hawkes appointment can apologise now.

Ask him if he would be with Hawkes or South if money wasn't involved

Saw Andy on the bench with Forestville, safe to say the rumours of his departure are looking iffy???

He's been confirmed the coach so I’d say pretty iffy

Second to none? Came runners up last year with 3 6ers. That's one. And how many other 2nd place finishes. Maybe coach at a club without the budget of eagles and with integrity of not qualifying a player that got in with a technicality.

Is Andy the best coach in premier league?

Who else is even close? Of the current coaches who has won a title? Maclean and Nyberg 2 each. Any others? Ricky Simpson?

The coaches obviously think Maclean is best based on COY voting.

1. McLean
2. Simons

then DAYLIGHT

Think clubs like church, uni sa and adelaide uni are all on the receiving end of plenty of solid div 1 players who don't wanna pay astronomical club fees that are used to fund premier league players. on the way up

Pffft, if North's import didn't choke and miss foul shots, cheatgles would have finished 4th with a stacked team.

With his resources he should be doing better. I don't even think he comes in too three. May have many years ago but it is time to move on!

Wasn't there some thing during the successful days at Forestivlle with rules being broken in regards to player payments. Bar money been siphened off and the like? Probably puts it all in perspective if true.

Heard about showing up for a camp and getting a couple of grand for a days work.

1. Nyberg....easily

I've heard of McKendrick but not Barton. Who is she?

Barton is a he ;-)

That's huge for South. Women might be able to beat the under 14 boys in a trial game now.

Or get within 30 of another Premier League team.

Both South coaches telling everyone they will make finals next season.

"Both South coaches telling everyone they will make finals next season."

Hoppo just committed to a D1, that means he's going to be sitting out the next four PL seasons. Don't see the men making finals without him.

He will play this season though. And their coach is expected to make finals.

How does the standard of Premier League compare with that of SBL in WA?

Not SEABL or QBL level but better than all other leagues. The WA league is living off reputation. Both SA GF teams would have easily won WA or Big V for that matter.

The bottom teams in SA would struggle to win a game in any league tho.

Ok so without getting too partisan or specific, the league is roughly comparable to WA SBL but maybe less even from top to bottom? (top is better but bottom is worse)

In reality, if south pickup a couple of really good imports to go with Mckendrick and 1 or 2 role players that would put them above centrals and woodville. Lions nothing without their imports and interesting to see fall out with woodvilles appointment of coach.

Souths men have to make finals or the coach back to his day job?

Someone should do preseason team previews! (not me I'm lazy).

Maybe the person who did the previews of games last year - they weren't always accurate but good for discussion.

South men top
South women top

Walkout at Southern Women Premier League.

At least 8 players leave after telling the Club they would do so if Tracy reappointed. President reappointed her and now they have left.

President also has been removed.

Its a long way back from this.

Tracey seems like a really professional coach, what was so bad that 8 players would leave over it?

From what I can gather Tracey doesn't realise most of the girls play for the love of the game and a bit of pocket money, expects full time commitment, video review sessions, you name it, not sure it’s 8 first team players, mckendrick and Kinross gone

I could see it being true, she's probably picked up a lot from her time with the 6ers and may be trying to implement a bit too much. On the other hand 8 walking out is huge and probably points to something bigger.

"What and other clubs don't"

No, they don't.

What serious team wouldn't do some form of scouting? That can’t be the reason.

Demi as well apparently

At least she has picked up her daughter who is playing Reserves!

Of course all clubs scout. However, the good clubs recognize this isn't a full-time gig, or close to. It's a fair commitment considering most don't get paid more than their fuel costs.

most dont even get fuel costs
premier league games during season, possibly reserves or 23's also then train twice a week, anyone expecting video review sessions on top of this, plus work or uni has rocks in their head.

and all that with all the cash and only 1 championship to show for it in 3 years

I think Tracy has been there longer than 3 years hasn't she? Maybe 5?

3 seasons

North Women definitely had scouting reports for other teams. Not put together by the players though. Video sessions during the finals.

I think it probably paid off for them.

No Tracy was definitely there before 2016.

All finals bound teams would scout. But most coaches would do it themselves.

4 years one title, all the money to spend, even worse

What professional attributes did she bring? Recruited heavily with no junior development at all. Four years with a stacked team and not enough to show for it.

The worm hasn't turned its just the players are fed up with her and are now showing it by walking out or simply just quitting basketball.

So if it hasn't turned then explain what has happened to the worm? The worm has maintained its course but the course was incorrect to begin with? Was it the wrong type of worm? Did the worm get dug up and used for fishing bait? Did someone throw some Combantrin into the mix and incapacitate the worm?
The people need answers.

Maybe all the promises she made about getting them into the lightning squad finally got old.

With those predictions in the men's are you expecting the top 5 teams to return the same lineups? Both imports back for Southern? 3 6ers for Forestville?

Just can't see Southern up there again in the men. Might sneak in bottom end of top 5.

Too early to make predictions like that until we know player the major player movements for each club

Anyone going after any players from the soon to be out of business Pioneers?

south men recruiting anyone that rings the coach

Pioneers have survived apparently!

Eagles women to lose a few. Rumour of no imports for the men, so 6ers could be back.

Who are the eagles women losing?

Dowdell from west adelaide is playing with the west reserves team in the SAABL

I assume he's staying at west

West have signed a guy an awful lot like Dowdell according to Instagram!

who? ^

"and imports" - have they signed two? I heard they'd signed one.

No fallout at Woodville. All players returning while gaining 2 from Southern at this point. Coach taking all trainings just not games at this stage.

I genuinely don't think West will be competitive this year. Seems like a down year is coming for them.

lose

Is Ollie coming back to eagles, heard rumour she was moving to netball and not playing wnbl this season

Have also heard that one.

Katia signed but I thought she would have played more than enough to qualify?

Talking women

I'm just dying to hear if one of the best imports to ever grace our shore, William Wise the third, will be back.

Hearing Will Wise to southern + Turnage. will be very competitive.

Will Wise, Turnage and Drmic. Hmm interesting core. Not sure Will Wise gets it done though.

Wise is ass lmao

Wise already took Greg Mays Missus !!

She downgraded in almost every way then!

Drmic won't be unrestricted so can’t happen

"Will Wise, Turnage and Drmic."

Southern will be sporting 3 restricted players? Either your mail is wrong or Dean has found yet another loophole in the by-laws.

Think you're all being trolled about Wise. I doubt he would be able to convince anyone in SA to take him.

My mail is Turnage Drmic the restricted guys plus Johns and Sturt’s big

Where is Brine going?

More than likely Brine will head to South.

Of course we're being trolled about Wise - just not trolled very well.

811 is correct, and Brine to South is what I last heard too.

brine a club hopper

Why waste money on Drmic when he is now restricted. Better off with Brine as local and a good import again. Drmic got $30k last time, would have to be on same again.
Things look like they're falling apart way down south.

Rumours last year Brine was on $1k a game. What is South doing to match that and to pay over the top money to others. South coach would want to perform!

so you're saying Brine and Drmic were on more than SEABL imports and since tiger also had 2 imports and johns they would have there for spent over 50-60k

you blokes are either taking the Pi$$ or have no clue how much players get paid, unless you hear it directly from the player or the coach you are all dreaming

which given I am not dreaming you can decide if I heard it from the player or the coach or the past president

and what happened to that reliable source , seeeeyya

Brine will end up more east than South I anticipate.

Hearing South will get two new imports and have already got North's best Aussie. Could be the big improvers.

North's best Aussie would be the legendary Raymond Harding

Kid lasted all of 2 games last year.

Well most do have a clue how much Southern are spending. $50-60 is way less what they are spending. And yes, heard it directly from players. Maybe you should get a clue.

The Johns mansion jokes remain a poor deflection from the poorly kept secret that Tigers spend ALOT more than every other club. Anyone that is involved in Premier League knows the deal.
Jonnek Norths best Aussie hey, I doubt those at North see it that way..

South men have a bigger budget than southern

Everyone in premier league know Norwood have the biggest budget & it's not close!

At Norwood Lycett would be highest, Standbridge got $10k, McGriff was on $5-8, other import was nothing (didn't play much either), Webber boys are on good wicket and Drew is VP so wouldn't be paid much. Drmic was going to go to the Flames originally but Southern chucked $30k at him and Norwood couldn't even come close. And no one else would be getting paid. So how can that even come close to Southern. Forestville would be the next highest, then its daylight to Norwood and West.

^A lot of conjecture in that post... You reckon Turnage and Johns aren't being paid?!

The Drmic 30k stuff just makes you guys who believe it sound like morons.

Hahahaha I know for a fact that Drmic wasn't on that amount. No way near!

So how much was he on then since your in the know???

There are several Aussies at North who do more for the team cause than Jonnek. Not the best - several are more important to the team than him

Build a program???? Recruit 2 36ers, have one play token minutes to manipulate the system, have the coach tell everyone he won't play finals because he won't qualify, then put forward a bullshit case to a piss weak bsa to let him play finals. Most disgraceful act in living memory. How is that building a program???

Recruit 2 36ers, try 4 and an import in one season. Not much program building going on there.

And the other half of the team were juniors. As were two of those 6ers. Terrible program.

Yep, those juniors really warmed the bench in the finals! Oh, and two juniors were actually from West...

While another 2 of them were Sturt juniors.

As was Doyle.

Didn't realise Southerns juniors did anything in the final...

If Brine goes to South how many clubs has he been at? Is there a distance those ears can't hear money rustling from?

If teams want to throw ridiculous amounts of money at him, good for him. He's clowning them with those numbers. Just a solid forward and he is what he is at his age.

Flames will get brine not panthers

Brine will take Stanbridges over inflated pay cheque.

If he's smart enough to parlay one good game into big money good luck to him. Other clubs saw through it.

Andy hasn't won since the three peat. With the amount Forestville pump in they’d expect better I’d think.

I dislike Southern as much as the next bloke, but aren't Johns, Staude, Brine and Ellison all Southern juniors?

So of their top six, four are juniors and two are imports?

Then after that were three Sturt juniors in Brurns, Dodman and Fricken?

...Or am I completely wrong???

Fricken is a Southern junior

From memory Andys team missed the finals in 2017 and responded with suiting 4 36ers and an import in 2018, resorting to showing he is morally corrupt with the DJ scam and still lost.

Ficken southern his whole junior career. Staude south junior but has been at Tigers about 10 years now. So yeah of any club in finals they certainly had no less local guys than other teams.

so much hate on this forum

Burns is a Forestville Junior lol. He just started moving when the $$$ came through

So a recap, Southern men get paid shitloads, their women hate Tracey, South are spending big trying to copy tigers, North lost a replaceable starter and pick up a Woodville bench player who apparently is better. Forestville, whilst not cheats, went against the spirit of the game and Andy sells his soul. But only Eagle fans think it OK. Everyone else is fairly quiet.

Will Wise still the best import from last season.

In this thread: butthurt

Will Wise best import of all time!!! Robbed of the Woollacott!!!

With that form Teys will be off to Europe!!

Would love to see Norwood or West pick up a Sixer each and create some really good competition in the league!

In reply to #711316. Brine has played PL for Southern and North. He had a preseason with Woodville while Maclean was there before heading off to college/pro. Doubt south will land him.

"Scraped in" by 5 wins over 6th? Now that's a poorly constructed sentence.

Sobey to south

Sobey won't ever play Premier League.

Nothing wrong with the sentence construction, flowed quite well. Misleading sentence perhaps?

Wiley to south

Where's all the money come from at the South Adelaide Poachers? Do they have it or are they just throwing numbers at other clubs guys hoping they can land a couple?
can anyone confirm who they are actually trying to poach. Am aware Jonnek from North chased the green. Any other confirmed offers or signings? Who else is on their hit list. Someone at Poacher land must've won the lottery. Bet Al wished he had access to this much alleged cash for his program.

Al had access to the money, just that most of it went in his own pocket!
They still gonna struggle with coaching unless he borrows $50 grand from Deano

South need as much quality as they can poach as the new coach is useless

Why the hate for Souths coach?

The south's coach is an upgrade this season! Guarantee they will be more competitive this season then the last few seasons. So much hate on here, calm down keyboard warriors

They have been 6th the past couple years. That means finals or bust for Petty.

Jamie needs time to build his own culture and drop his values on a group that has had none

That won't happen over night

Couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag

How would we know? What has he coached in SA?

He was coaching 16-2 girls for Centrals not that long ago then coached Mickey mouse YL for Southern.

He must have presented very well or no other applicants!

Or his mate is on the selection committee

If all you haters could do a better job then why didn't you apply? Thing is you probably did and didn’t get it that’s why there is so much sour comments on here. Give the guy a chance to rebuild the non-existent culture there and show his worth.

Thanks Jamie

Build a culture by recruiting every renegade player in Adelaide

Mrs Petty, doubt many did go for it and he probably got it by promising he could get some southern bench players over. Facts are he got sacked from Centrals under 16 div 2 girls so that tells you the calibre. So give Jamie a big hug, tell him not to listen to the bad people and that he is a good boy and he'll get an extra spoon of Milo in his milk.

Jamie coached State Country 18's at Nationals this year and failed to win a game!

I also like to make things up to make people look bad....

This thread is great! Everyone commenting on poor quality teams and coaches. News flash SA, you have the 2nd worst league in the country! Don't be surprised about the low quality talent you attract, just accept it. You earnt it

And I'm sure Jamie is worried about faceless, nameless keyboard warriors slagging him off on a forum.

Yeah, I'm sure hes gonna be more worried losing by 40 each week wondering what to do.

Which is the worst league in the country?

Waratah.

Do you South Australians realise that travel in involved in every other senior semi-pro state league in the country, and that your Meteo senior league is the exception here? Amazes me that travelling a few hours away once a season could possibly be such a massive deal. The resistance to progress is one of the reasons your state league is so far behind all the others and why the game isn't growing in SA.

Anon #423 so convinced you're right you had to post the same thing twice?

SA is different to other states. Population base is different. Obviously that has an impact. All State Leagues across all sports in SA are Metro based because about 75% of South Australian's are Metro based. This is different to every other state in Australia. This is why SA is different.

Talent Pool in turn is different. Even MtG recruit Metro players to build a viable team. Are you suggesting SA should become all of state based just for the visuals but force city based players to relocate or commute to play for a Country based team?

SA has twice tried Country based teams in the State League. Both times they collapsed due to non-competitiveness and cost.

The game is growing in SA. Stats prove it is growing. Your claim otherwise is false.

People caught in the one import era. The Premier League sits behind SEABL & QBL but ahead of all other competitions. Only 10 teams means the talent doesn't get as diluted as in some other places.

Hahahhhahaa you are kidding yourselves if you think premier league teams could hang with SEABL teams. Tigers would be able and maybe west/Norwood but you have a very delusion perception of premier league compared to others. The players in SEABL and QBL are deeper and better. Sam Johns went to Logan and didn't do much, yet dominates here

I am proud of our league, but I would have to agree that our teams cannot be compared to SEABL/QBL. I think the depth of teams in those leagues are greater as their benches are far stronger and Imports are quality. Maybe our top teams could compete with the lower end teams in those leagues, but wouldn't stand a chance against the top-mid range sides

Main difference between PL and SEABL teams is the depth of the SEABL benches. Starting units compare very favourably, it's only when you go to the bench that SEABL teams have the edge.

So you are saying Sturts, centrals, Woodville, south, east, & west starting 5 could compete with a nunawading, Geelong, Kilsyth, Hobart starting 5???

WA has its majority of population in Perth with the largest town outside of it with 30K just like SA. And guess what? Its state league the SBL has country teams!

Legan came here and his numbers were well down on QBL...

Ridgeway also went to Qld and his numbers were well up...

Seriously folks. Success is equal to % of population playing basketball and that means melbourne/victoria are always going to be stronger 4-10 fold so stop bragging Eastern states and all the rest celebrate success that is statistically harder to achieve so worth celebrating when it comes. There is also an economic factor as well and that again leaves SA/NT & Tassie behibd the 8 ball. Perspective people. It's just basketball.

Jamie won a couple of games at Nationals goiyby the website. I know that's not great but he probably really didn't have any competition for the South job. $$ give you talent in PL but putting that talent together and coming up with an effective formula that works is another. Club culture is something else entirely and will take more than a decent PL program.

Time will tell in this case and there are a few clubs with experienced coaches that starts below Jamie before he has drawn up his first play!!

There are 300,000 people in SA outside of Metro

Considering how scattered that small population is, SA can barely maintain country teams

Very true. SA Countrys Senior and U18 championship are stuffed. No basketball interest in regional areas anymore unfortunately

And there lies a problem for Metro. They are soaking up talented Country players who have a mountain of opportunity comparatively per head of player to metro players. And now those players are now taking positions for metro players to develop within teams and stronger competition. This showed at Nationals with Country placing higher than Metro and winning in matchups in the junior mens. In the long run this will have its down side for metro. There needs to be limits and equity. An example is the no of teams in development teams for that tiny country population is double that of an exponentially larger population in the metro region. At this age group that is locking in the same players with no fluidity to the program. The net loss will be to other sports or leaving basketball all together. This has to be contributing to lower numbers in many clubs in senior and youth league competition. In turn the strength of SA is weakened. Then of course there is the politics and a varying defintition of what makes a good player vs what mkes a good team. The latter being ignored to develop selected few at the expense of the State. And that is where our reputation is laid. End of rant.

Welcome the Pioneers 2019.

P.Thomas still holding out for West to match the $$$ that his home club with the new stadium are waving at him. Might see him in the emerald green come march #WarriorPride

Wait - Pat Thomas played for Woodville? When??

Hope they don't match it. Would be nice to see Woodville not waste St Clair with the rubbish they’ve been dishing up recently

That's gotta be the worst attempt at a rumour in a while....

I hear paddy Thomas was keen on going to forrestvile.

That also sounds like a poor rumour....

Thomas was SEABL or West always.

Ridgeway to the Ringwood Hawkes

Woodville, can't develop players so let's buy them. Amazed Whitmore still has a job, hasn't he only got a team in finals once at centrals. His record is terrible, a lot worse than others that have been fired, but still has a job because his mates are on committee.

So Thomas has signed or still looking? Whats going on with Jordan West?

Thomas and Kubank back to West. Add in a couple imports and they are title favourites right now.

Title favourites, pffft!!!

Mt Gambier would be title favorites right now.

If Mt G are Daly, 2 imports and locals then they are not favourites.

Wtf are you talking about, if gambier are in the mix then they are definitely favourites!

If they're playing premier league they will not have the Sam McDaniel, Majok Deng, Lewis Thomas, Jamison types.

It’ll be Tom Daly, 2 imports and locals.

Title favourites, pffft!!!

Is Tom Daly's last memory of the PL choking away an impossible 14 point lead with 4 minutes to go on the biggest stage of them all?

Yeah, favourites !!!

Yep don't think he has recovered from that.

Yeah a Premier League final is the biggest stage of them all! That's funny. Sure it compares to his multiple SEABL National Championships.

I forgot that mt gambier don't have any group locals, and they train 4 times a week, and they only have one of the best senior program cultures in the country.... yeah they will be no good in the elite premier league

Gonna find it hard to recruit into PL I'd say.

Early pre season predictions for the men...

Southern
Daylight....
Norwood
West
Forrestville
South
North
Sturt
Woodville
Centrals
Eastern

Should be an easy win with the suspected trio of Johns/Drimic/Turnage. will be to good with the exemption of a doctors certificate.
If not for the West Adelaide upset of 2017 would you agree this southern dynasty would be the best run our state league has seen? Credit to coach Nyberg building this one from the ground up.

Rumour has it East are targeting 2017 Halls Medalist Eian Davis but then again we all thought they were targeting Brooks, Typical bush league type stuff. With Cornerstone Seb Vozzo looking around east might be in for a tough year once again.

Norwood have opened their pockets and their hearts and poached Brandon Brine for the up coming season apparently for around $1000 per game. will be hoping to have a good season to get back to that Southern pay cheque rumoured to be upwards of $1500 per game.

North once again haven't learnt their lesson that paying Starling's mates to keep him happy after CJ Reeds 4/26 finals performance. But here we are they have brought in James peters and from reports is the second highest earner at north. Only reason to be out at Hilcrest it seems this year is to potentially catch Hawkes taking out his frustrations on the opposing teams import with his signature right hook.

What ever happened to Daniel Simms?

Nice name drop Mrs Vozzo. Come off it.

Warhurst cut Vozzo a season ago!

Brines alleged game payments are hilarious!

Peters is getting paid, not a heap but he's getting coin.

How did Brines departure from Tigers come about? Might speak to his character if Tigers were willing to move him on after his GF performance.

Wondered when Norwood would open up the vault. But is he going to start at the 4, no way in the world Daniel Webber or Lycett give up the 2/3. Is McGriff going to be back? Are they going to get a proper second import, would have thought they would be cheaper and better than Brine.

Haha Peters adds what?! Sure didn't add much to Woodville the last couple years..

Is Reed coming back to North?

Dumbass, I think you'll find money is always the reason. Drmic had committed to kb at Norwood but when Southern offered him $30k they couldn't match. You think Brine is thinking about anything else but money you're kidding yourself. And eagles have always paid huge, you think DJ would have stepped on court for seconds for free???? As well as Teys??? Even Peters who was an OK reserves player to even get petrol money to move is absurd. Don't even get me started on Standbridge from last year and his $10k.
Produce season after season, what had Southern done in last decade until the chequebook came out. Forestville miss playoffs, suddenly a bunch of sixers want to play there.
Grow up and look at the facts before talking crap about God at Forestville and Jesus at southern.

#261 actually just because its said here doesn't make it true. Players need to be paid but many find the right coach, the right team, the right culture, the right role/opportunity are just as important.

Players at that level often play to play with mates too. Money isn't everything to these guys.

Cash Rules Everything Around Me! $15-20 grand a season they going there. Might take a discount for some factors but ultimately money talks.
How many teams DJ played for? I believe West, South, Sturt and Forestville. Not too worried about culture or coaches, just the dollar bills!

Drmic was going to Norwood until he found out he had to play with the Webbers. They are their downfall in recruiting.

Brine may end up there for lack of options.

Some of these players need to recognise they are not professional basketballers. If you aren't signed to an NBL 10 then you do not play professionally in Australia.
If you are an Aussie in Premier League, get a job and support yourself and stop attempting to extort these amateur clubs for all they have. Once again you ARE NOT professionals because YOU haven't made it. Simple.
I personally rate, very highly, loyalty and commitment to your club. Wouldn't want ANY of these over rated, non-professionals who are nothing short of hired mercenaries anywhere near my club.
As for the constant bagging of coaches on here by the "experts", I doubt you can actually comprehend the time and effort spent coaching Premier League for very little financial compensation. These guys do it because they love it and most are pretty good coaches overall.
So dust the Doritos chips from your manboobs, get off your ass and away from your keyboard for a bit, have a shower and get a life. No-one cares what you think. Some opinions aren't worth sharing.

Like yours?

Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has them

#520, I see what you're saying but players like Brine who have put in the work and played overseas (getting paid) have set a precedent for themselves, if he's played overseas, gotten paid and is better than the vast majority of forwards in PL, then let him get paid. That being said, there are a few guys in PL who are possibly fringe NBL guys/DP level players that could be making some coin too. Get off these guys, they deserve to make money because of how much time they've put into their craft.

They don't deserve money, because they don’t generate money.

So players are generating money in the QBL or SEABL? They're being compensated for their time and petrol. We're not talking huge amounts of money here either. Everything on here is very overblown.

1000 bucks a game to a guy that's never set foot on an NBL court is ridiculous

Is Nelson Larkins worth closer to $1k then?

Will any 6ers or DPs hang around?

I'd assume thats close to what Larkins daddy gives Joey every time he hits the court, yes.

Was Miller Starlings guy? He was great but the other guys they have had recently have been among the worst in the league.

Took the right cross after he pushed the import running down the sideline. "How time muddies clarity."

Miller was at North before Starling was!

Reed was the worst import in the league last year & the guy they had before Miller was the worst his year too.

Nate Garth....

Nate over 2018 CJ.
2015 CJ over Nate.

Will Wise > 2015 CJ > Nate

I heard Boti is coaching them.

Can confirm Woosnam will be coaching women at West

You are both right , it will be sams program but coached by Boti, Sam not back until 2020 season

Boti will coach the team until then under sams direction

boti doesnt coach under anyone's direction, he was asked by willie jennette to be an assistant once and the response was i am not anyone's assistant

Teams never learn!

How many teams has Boti been at now??? All with his daughters haven't they

Thought I'd check back in on this thread. Any more player movements? Someone give us some power rankings. Heard Southern have created a big 3 and West have signed a power-forward import to replace/pair?? with Tobias Dowdell. Lycett was injured for a while last season, will he be healthy? South have snagged a couple of club movers it appears. Is Sturt going to go with the usual route of playing junior talent with one import signing? Will they snag Tom Daly? Starling getting another go round with North?

Bryan Jefferson is one I'm told.

Ricardo Martin to Eastern

Who's Bryan Jefferson? Where’d he play? Ricardo Martin to Eastern confirmed? They’ll still be trash.

Jefferson played at UMary with Kubank and Thomas. Upgrade on Dowdell.

Does that mean Skinner to Mavs too? I thought they were looking interstate?

Anyone Heard where Vozzo has signed ? Lad had one of the best youth league seasons we've seen

Righto Mrs Vozzo, Might make a good Div 1 Mens back up pointguard if he finds the right fit

Youth league is no better than a local social comp, dont kid yourself

If scoring is all that matters but there is more to playing a team game like basketball.

easy to have a good youth league season when you put up 50 shots in a game, he scored 60 one night and they still got pumped by one of the top 4 sides

kid could be a good player if he played in a decent team with some structure and discipline

^ to be fair, the mavs do suck

Why wasn't he playing reserves then if their YL team was bad and if he is so good

ahh good point

Why was he playing YL and not reserves??

How can you average 35 points a game and not get moved up?

He's just lucky they don’t chart FGA & FG% in YL1.

If he was any good someone would have taken a chance on him by now.

the word out is that Seb Vozzo refusing to suit up for Mavs reserve and YL team, as he awaits the call from Hawkes to create a shaq kobe like duo up at hillcrest

Everything quiet out of Norwood - is that because they're bringing everyone back?

Few going from Flames for one reason or another. Still the same core though.

^^^i mean, mavs YL team wouldnt beat a good mars A grade social team

If Vozzo goes to North half the team would leave!!

Players leaving won't matter it’s just simple maths if you add up Starling’s, Peter’s and Vozzo’s average points north will be scoring up to 200 points per game.

Will be a sight to see!

North fans trying to talk up some very sorry player signings is hilarious

I think it was in jest...

Young Utah Star Jarryd Hoppo currently injured with a dramatic finger, is said to dominate the glass averaging 15 boards with a cheeky 20 points. Big things for this young star! Rumour to rattle chains with Alex Starlings possible wollacot medal in the 2019 season!

South boys need to stop posting on Instagram and Hoops and start doing something worthwhile like practicing basketball.

Come off it Mrs.Vozzo.

Nah they're getting swole to grab all the rebounds from missed Brad Jonnek long contested 2's

I just heard that Mavs are so desperate to hang onto Seb Vozzo that they have offered him $500 a game and promised to bring in his buddy Kane Della Pia.

Finally something to smile about up at Mt Barker

Seb Vozzo and Kane Della Pia the biggest confirmed signings of the offseason so far!