Anonymous
Years ago
Not enough get spoken about the top division in Big V.
Huge effort and congrats to Ringwood for getting game 3 today and their three peat. Four years ago also one of best teams but upset by McKinnon import heroics.
Hats off to Ken Harrington and their core players, especially Matt Snowball who has been getting th job done for years doing it the right way.
big v state champ is better than every state comp besides seabl
Spot Up
Years ago
Seconded. Was bloody impressive today. Interesting to see how things end up structured next season now!
If you think fat Snowball could compete in the QBL for example you are kidding yourself
SEABL it as as we have always known. BA are screwing it so who cares about anything less.
X
Years ago
Why does this need to become negative.
Good job Ringwood. Well done!
I'm just looking at the team lists and it’s hard to see any team with Daniel Johnson (5x NBL All Star), Brendan Teys (well over 100 NBL games) and Adam Doyle (long time NBL backup) not winning any of the state leagues listed below Premier League.
You chose one outlier stacked team.
and you used an example of a team who lost their GF.
That's the point. They win any other league but couldn’t win Premier League. I think by the looks the Premier League GF teams could hang with any in the country.
PersonalFoul
Years ago
Big fan of Ken Harrington and Snowball and what they have created at Ringwood.
The SEABL and potential Club Championship is needed so we can stop having this pissing in the wind contest and see who has the best team in the best state league
Every pre season state champ teams beat seabl teams. I know it's just pre season. But way too much hate on big v. It is not way behind qbl, premier or sbl. top teams in big v would have a shot at making finals in QBL
Still confused about who will run and PAY for all this since BA shat on the Seabl.
BigV play a different style to SEABL - very 3P heavy in comparison. I know we struggle to defend it in the preseason with our old legs still working into shape. And with their season starting 3-4 weeks before ours, they are always much further along.
Congrats to Kenny and his boys. They have been the clear leaders in that league for a long time.
Reality
Years ago
Great Job Ringwood, to win any comp once is a great effort let alone 3 times in a row.
Taking nothing away from Ringwood but the Big V isn't exactly what it was even 4/5 seasons ago let along a decade ago.
How many NBL players (Actually guys NBL playing minutes in 2017/18) played SCM this year? None!
A few years back players like Tragardh, Greer, Dillon, Corletto, Lowery, DJ, McMillan, Ohea, Quick, Wheeler where running so the level has fallen off a cliff in terms of talent.
You guys overrate the NBL players.
How many of them play in state leagues and get balled on by imports? (A lot of them)
How many of them play in state leagues and don't stand out? (A lot of them)
NBL players back then were of a lower standard to the ones in NBL today.
Reality
Years ago
Also more than a fair share of the imports are busts.
Name 1 import in this years Big v who is NBL level? Konor Kulas dominated and not one NBL team would even take a look at him!
The names previously mentioned dominated the state leagues hence got the opportunity at the NBL level but when you look ar which locals would get NBL looks in the current Big v...Fennel, Waldren, Platenik are among the best locals and they aren;t getting a sniff of a NBL court unless they buying tickets to a game!
The only current local big v player who might get a look in would be Dan Dillon.
Konor kulas dominated? He played on a team that won 5 games. His stats were meaningless.
Dan Dillion was signed to Melbourne United last . He was balled on by big v imports and locals this season. Deng Deng is signed to Sydney. Played for McKinnon and he wasn't even top 15 players in league.
Big v Imports scrimmage against Melbourne United players at off season trainings. From reports not all the nbl players are good. Lot of time the imports are more impressive in those trainings than the locals.
Anthony Drmic, David Barlow, Sam short, Dane pineau, mason bragg, Smith-milner, deng deng and others did not dominate their state leagues...
Great stuff from Ringwood. Snowball still floor general, Fennell tough inside, imports shooting the piss out of it. Winning formula.
Reality
Years ago
The past NBL players listed dominated the state leagues
No current lower league imports are getting looks from NBL teams unless you count Jordair Jett (Lolz!)
Deng Deng is yet to step on an NBL court and Dillon is coming back from injury but was good in the big V 5 or 6 years ago.
The other mentioned are DP players or guys not even seeing the counrt iun the past the Big V/VBL had guys who played legit NBL minutes playing which just doesn't happen anymore.
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