Expansion team, essentially. Gives him a pass for a couple of years, IMO. Lost Bairstow, had some Buford chemistry issues and I don't know if Holt is enough. Only had one centre so struggled on the boards. Did he have enough warning re Bairstow to accommodate that though?

Clean last in FGA/game but their percentages were good - second in FG%, top in 3P% and top in FT%. But last in offensive rebounds and second last in total boards.

I will look to place bets on the Australian national team to fall-over under him.

Losing Bairstow meant Jervis was the starting (only) C, that was never going to end well.

Bairstow fit and getting 15/10 a night completely changes the dynamic of the squad.

Sure, better recruitment or in season adjustments probably were needed to cover the loss of such an important piece but I think Lemanis deserves the chance to go around again next season.

The Kings can still end up with the wooden spoon I'm not sure why the commentators were saying otherwise last night.

Really needed an import forward/ centre to replace Bairstow.

Really AshT!? He was one terrible foul call away from winning a Bronze medal at Rio and for the most part, that was the most attractive basketball our national men's team has played at that level in a long, long time. Given the likes of Simmons, Exum, Delly, Patty, Baynes, Bairstow, Bolden coming through, I hardly think they will 'fall over' as you claim under Lemanis' tutelage.

Do people forget Rio already?

Geez, imagine how that conversation would have gone....

Receptionist: "hey Andrej, Macarron is on the phone, you know rookie of the year and the guy you've coached in the Boomers team."

Andrej: "Oh yeah, that emerging star that everyone in the league is talking about. Isn't he still under contract until the end of the 2018 season where he'll be the hottest free agent on the market?"

Receptionist: "yeah that's him, but contracts don't matter in this mythical situation proposed on the internet. Anyways, he wants to sign here, what do you think?"

Andrej: "nah we don't want to talk to him, I prefer the weather at the bottom of the ladder. Get me Stephen Holt's agent..."

So before he actually played in the NBL?

The agent didn't pick up the phone to CJ Bruton, who he also represents? Or anyone else in the club? You know agents generally talk to GM's before coaches right?

#trusttheprocess

Some piss poor trolling on this thread. Lift your game anons

Zodiac - yes, Sydney can finish bottom. It needs Brisbane to beat Adelaide and Sydney to lose their game. It also needs the margins in those two games to tally to about 20 points. Possible but unlikely.

Zodiac - yes, Sydney can finish bottom. It needs Brisbane to beat Adelaide and Sydney to lose their game. It also needs the margins in those two games to tally to about 20 points. Possible but unlikely.

Sorry Peter John I misread your post I thought you said the margin in each game would need to be 20 not 20 total.

This has probably been discussed elsewhere, apologies if so, but doesn't Holt qualify as Asian? I thought that was the whole point of getting him back to the league?
The team is still a bit cobbled together and has been unlucky losing players like Beal, Bairstow and Craig. Look around the league, stability is very important.

And yes, I think Lemanis is someone (like many of our championship winning coaches) who does best with top-quality players to choose from.

Be interesting to see what he does for next season to plug the gaps and develop stability.

Lemanis' offence is one where his players are required to make reads, and not all players are gifted with a sharp basketball mind.

The Boomers looked awesome at the last Olympics because that team was smart. The Bullets ain't so.

Lemanis' offence, when run right, makes you go "oh wow what a pass, oh what a cut, how did he see that opening etc. rather than "oh what a fantastic flashy individual play".

Yeah definitely. Needs to be flexible, there is no doubt.
Bairstow would have been huge for his system in providing genuine balance offensively and switchability on the other end.

Don't think he is good enough to be the Boomers coach

For most of this season Brisbane were the most efficient offensive team in the NBL, so you can't say the system didn't work with the team.

What's hurt them is rebounding and closing out close games. The close losses often came because they got beaten in the possession game down the stretch, so if they can get Bairstow back next season they probably solve both problems.

While fans look just at wins and losses and scream for sackings, administrators have to be smarter than that.

I think as Boomers coach he has been great and played quite exciting and I'm happy for him to remain as Boomers coach.

But as Bullets coach he is way too chilled and not proactive enough and I'd expect to see more mongrel from him.

Gleeson is too on edge and Lemanis is too chilled, need to find a happy medium. Yes I know that Lindsay Gaze and Phil Smyth were bloody relaxed but it helped their coaching, it is not helping Andrej at all

As many excuses as we want to give Lemanis he didn't adjust to anything whether it be with injuries or strategy. Examples....

Sydney changed imports a few times until they got Randle and a healthy Lisch and that proved to be the right formula.

Cairns Carrera got hurt they got a high energy player in Evans to fill the gap and Fearne gave more freedom to his locals and they were competitive.

Illawarra just a well coached team with Clarke, Conger being good imports and Johnson (very budget import) still got some impressive wins and played will without Rotnei Clarke even when finals were not in the picture.

Melbourne struggling early on and then Prather goes down and they bring in Felix and that revitalised there season.

Adelaide added Childress and pushed the tempo against other teams and thats proving successful.

New Zealand(Rakim Christmas maybe) & Perth have kept the same teams but their are also in finals so no changes there.

In my opinion Brisbane have been complacent and they have finished last 2 straight years. Why not unload Stephen Holt as he didn't really offer anything or why not recruit players that can play like McCarron who he ignored.

Lemanis has had some success with the Boomers team but if anyone that knows Basketball, if you have a group of good players they can figure out stuff on their own and adjust to the competition and the Coach just needs to manage them.

Oh dear, Changes to teams cost money, if this is restricted then put up with what you have.
Lemanis went to the Breakers when the team was a basket case. Under his guidance and an owner who invested and lost many millions Lemanis built the Breakers to be a 3 times NBL Champion. His record to date with the Boomers is best ever.
Brisbane fans unfortunately expect instant success and to suggest that Gaze out coached him is more than a laugh.
The Kings back court is a $million dollar investment and there is plenty more where this cash comes from.
Brisbane needs to shake out a few, perhaps get a tough disciplined team manager and the fan base needs to be patient.

Is anyone going to mention the influence of Adam Gibson? Everywhere he goes, his teams seem to have "culture" issues.

Leroy Loggins still playin these days?..

We're the second best team in the world over the last four years and that only because we were on the wrong end of a couple of shit calls.

Well said KR. It helps to actually watch and understand fiba ball doesn't it.

well said Koberrulz, you are so smart, you are my hero,

Yep, there's no real arguing with Lemanis' results at the last two tourneys IMO. We can nitpick on details around team selection and player usage, and of course it was a disappointing result as an Australian supporter falling so close to a medal, but I'm sure lots of countries felt the same, including European powerhouses. We looked good overall on both ends of the court, especially with a lack of top-tier scorers (outside of Mills).

I'm OK with BB taking over all the same, but I think there's a real risk that we don't perform as well as we have the past 2 tourneys. It might be because of the coaching, or it could just be a few shots don't drop against quality opponents. Maybe then we'll appreciate the Lemanis-era a little bit more.