Last time I looked Baseball and Soccer had coaches interacting with referees.

Loelinger is good at the PR not so much the facts

Pretty much all a load of hot air except for the bit at the end where he says they'll make the review of some calls more transparent. But then I imagine they'll end up being about as transparent as player value in the salary cap. We all remember that promise!

From memory, we had a reasonably good year of refereeing when we had the referee panel adjudicating. It cleaned things up, the teams got used to it, the internal feedback was apparently so good that some refs were getting pissed off, and then it got chucked out and we're back to sloppy, inconsistent refereeing with no real ability for criticism or growth.

It isn't just commentators interpretation influencing fans. It's current and past players and coaches too. Apparently they are all dumb and the refs are perfect...

"We're back to sloppy, inconsistent refereeing with no real ability for criticism or growth."

There's still plenty of critiquing of refs. Every game is closely reviewed. That is part of the reason why we've seen a lot of older, mid-to-lower level refs move on recently.

Until the group of young refs who have come in to replace get a bit more experience there is going to be inconsistency.

But let's be real, we've long had inconsistency so at least having some new refs replacing the guys who make the same mistakes year after year gives some hope, even if it may be a little way off.

The young ref making all the wrong calls at the wrong times at the moment is being accelerated beyond his capacity due to who his family is

And he is a knob

The biggest frustration for me isn't even the unsportsmanlike interpretations (which has been frustrating), it's the ridiculous amount of tech fouls being blown for insignificant reactions.

The refs need to give players some licence - sure if it's over-the-top abuse or carry-on then call a tech, but that's not what been happening.

"The young ref making all the wrong calls at the wrong times at the moment is being accelerated beyond his capacity due to who his family is"

I don't know that side of it, but certainly a few of Jon's calls have undone a lot of good work being done by others.

Take out the bad USFs and techs in recent weeks and the reffing has been pretty solid (with some obvious mistakes sure, but that happens) and is helping produce some attractive hoops.

I think people vastly underestimate what Scott Butler is doing in this space with the referees, they have never had someone with comparative national AND international experience running the officials program in the NBL.

Rule changes and transitions will always be frustrating to the average fan, that's situation normal, but as an aspiring referee I wish there was more easily accessible information on what's happening on the back end for training/coaching/accountability, etc.

This podcast was really informative on what they started out with this season (Butler is on at around 30 mins in). I'd love to see more of this stuff!


http://www.aussiehoopla.com/nbl-blitz-recap-traralgon-1/

Another round of charge/flop referee roulette. These refs have a loooooong way to go. What were they calling in the Adelaide Illawarra game Friday night? Carfinos comment was basically to say that at least whatever it is tonight they are being consistent with it....

Keep trying to justify the shitty, inconsistent refereeing though. Another 10 years and they may be decent.

NBL: refereeing is all good.

In totally unrelated news, if you look out your window you'll see pigs flapping their wings and performing aerobatics.

"Keep trying to justify the shitty, inconsistent refereeing though. Another 10 years and they may be decent."

Said pretty much the same thing.......20 years ago

"in this space"

As soon as I see or hear this I KNOW there will be some quality BS to follow. Up there with "reached out to" as my favourite corporate wanker words.

Swimming- legality of stroke, underwater length on breaststroke??, 2 handed touch
Running- baton changes, lane violations, false starts

All sports involve some form of official judgements imho- even bog snorkelling.

Sticking up for mediocrity is fine if you want a shit product. It's meant to be a national league but there's completely different interpretations of charges (for one example) each week. Get rid of "flopping" if they can't understand how to officiate it. It's a bastard new rule straight out of soccer mad Europe.

Udog... You mean one of the most successful leagues in the world? You're right, let's do away with FIBA rules and just go rogue, so instead of having a solid product and players (and officials) who can seamlessly transition to the highest standard of global basketball, we'll have a D Grade "entertainment package" that will make Average Joe fan boy happy.

The statement says they will review at the end of the year and see how best to "interpret and apply" the new rules. Sounds very seamless indeed.