But doesn't this happen all the time? Doesn't matter what age group.

link to side?

Seems b ball has about as much credibility as politions.
Ba and bv need a shake up. Tryouts should be about best players but the system is broken.

Sorry....that's simply not true

It's a shame you feel that way. I'm sure the system isn't perfect. Trying out is important however by under 18s level many will be earmarked by the way they play in competition. Their participation in camps and high performance programs, how they will gel with the key players...

However, I know it must be frustrating for many.

Move to ACT .....

And yes you do all those things and more, but they don't count. Why?
Some players have a free ride no matter how they perform, so much for tryouts!!
The system is corrupt.

I would put up $100,000 if 40% of those chosen could beat some that were cut!

That's true

That's true so why are they chosen?

And sometimes not!!

My point is, where does a player go who has vastly improved, to be the best player! and is the best at tryouts. Will they be chosen, if not picked in the past.
They still get overlooked, due to club preferences and selectors agendas.
Those players now do not have that pathway.

I sympathize with the the sentiments of the poster.

Unfortunately the coach/s are charged with picking a balanced TEAM, one that has a balance of bigs, forwards, guards & point guards. As unfortunate as that is, that means there are generally only two spots for each position, so if your child is not one of the top two players for a certain position, then your child is more than likely going to miss out.

However, making junior teams is not the be all. Kyle Adnam never made a state team and is now playing for Melbourne United and there are others that made nearly every state team in their time in Juniors, yet never played Big V, SEABL or beyond once out of juniors.

Dominating in juniors, whilst nice if your child can do it, should not be the goal. The journey should be geared to where they are at by the early mid twenties.

Junior sport is so fickle as some kids mature early, some late. Generally the early maturing kids have an extreme advantage, that generally diminishes as the kids age. Things only start to even out at top age 18 of the U20's.

I have two kids, one made every state team going, the other never made a state team. Yes I was disappointed, a little like the original poster, but looking back it is not such a big deal, he has played in SEABL when most of the players that made those state junior teams are no longer playing or were/are not good enough to make Big V or SEABL.

So my advice is train hard, work on your game and if you are good enough, like Kyle Adnam, your child will make it in the end.

I assume this is in relation to tryouts for the upcoming East Coast Challenge? Which is not the State team, it is a part of the selection process for the Vic Metro State team.

Also, I forgot to mention, the tryouts for the ECC are only a small part. The coaches know these kids, they see them play on Friday nights, etc.

It's not like these kids are unknown. Sometimes there is a kid who shows up and surprises everyone. But this is rare.

My experience is that the state teams will generally come from the top 4 to 6 teams in VC. Why? They are not the top 4 to 6 teams by accident, they generally have the best players, as hard as that might sound.

Last year u18 selection, did bv choose the best squad to take to east coast? No they did not. At east coast did they Choose the best team to represent bv? No they did not.
On selector boasted he got seven of his girls in the side, corrupt!
That year did they go on to win? No they failed, and no one asks why. They played off for bronze.
It seems vic country have it together by choosing their best players maybe the influence of Justin.
Flawed and corrupt.
Recently 2 girls got offered a scholarship at Coe one struggled last year, whilst the other played well in the lower age as a centre but now has to play a 3 she can't dribble or shoot and would struggle against the 18s this season,but that is overlooked.
When will ba and bv start recognising the better and improved players.
Sadly I don't think it will happen.

No Isis, and three others who shouldn't be there.

Locandro injured,won't be fit enough

Question mark on Isis, locandro, potter, Babic Edmanson

STOP naming and eluding to children. Pull your head in. If you think it's "corrupt" complain to peak sports body and whomever else you need to go to.

It was it is mate.

What it boils down to is 1. That's the team, it's not changing
2. Work on your attitude so it doesn't transfer to your child as pain in the ass parents are actually unfortunately a factor in kids progression.
3. Look to the future.. we said a million times, so many excellent professionals didn't make these squads. They worked hard, more than anyone and they got theirs.
4. If you're so caught up in selection and so angry about it you might want to reasses whether you are living vicariously through your child.

Anon who's We?
We said a million times??

I can't see why you have anything against Potter. You have no basis to say she struggled last year. She was the best player in the VC winning team. She is a clear talent and I don't believe you should be making such comments against kids online.

Too true unfortunately!

Big congrats to both girls. Well deserved.

The process is flawed, unfair at times and biased often. I have a few observations.
I understand players are [supposed to] picked for position, but multiple players from one club, often the club of the Head coach? State teams should be the best players, they are being picked to represent Victoria, not BV or a club or even the coach, but Victoria. The BEST players.
I don't think there should ever be coach appointed by BV who has a child in that age group who is a possible representative. Nepotism avoided!
Yes, many players are preselected, it happens at many levels, VJBL level and lower. This makes it extremely hard for many players who possibly have made huge improvement to get through.
It's not impossible, but rare for players from small associations or clubs to get through at any age group. usually they are osticized by the club uniform they wear at tryouts immediately.

^ that is such rubbish. My child is in the team at the bottom of the ladder, and has made state selection 2 years in a row.

Sooky anonymous parent - "we" is about the numerous posts pointing out people like Adnam and Sobey who have had great success with the right attitude and work ethic. Dude, just pull your head in.

The team published, is the team - do not think for a second that BV is more interested in spoiling favourites than winning, that's just stupid. BV select to win, even at ECC and SCC these kids are selected to be the best fit.

Move on, or move states.

If the team is published can I have a link to view the team?

Thank god for Dane, some sanity in this discussion.
I suppose if you poke a stick into a wasps nest you'll probably get stung.
Btw the opals squad is pretty good!