Hobart have signed Tre Nichols from the SBL. IMO along with Daniel Alexander he's been the best import not in the NBL the past few years. Anthony Stewarthas also flagged their interest in Jacob Holman from Goldfied. Also hearing rumours he's chasing some guys from Adelaide.

Kilsyth certainly very active early. The clubs you've mentioned, do you have names of the imports they have signed?

Have also heard Hobart chasing an ex Olympian! $$$ to burn there.

Hearing Mt Gambier will lose a few.

I have also heard that Adnam will return for Kilsyth. They will be tough! Adnam, Patton, Odigie, Von Hofe, Pineau is an awesome group at this point.

Will Mt G keep Alexander? I guess they will upgrade the other import?

Hadn't Mallory been at Albury before? Was he any good?

Adnam and tough shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence please.

I think that Ballarat have re-signed the same imports as season 2017.

i would be surprised if mt gambier loose any of the locals (excluding sutton who has retired).

dandenong have already lost one from them deep bench at the end of the year. would expect them to lose couple more who are seeking more court time.

nunawading i expect will be very similar again in 2018. you would think conn's output would have to slow down he certainly isnt getting younger. even if he gets the offensive numbers he will be exposed more and more on the defensive end.

Chargers reinvesting in their local players. Well done. Paywall might block the article.
http://www.themercury.com.au/sport/basketball/hobart-to-invest-in-homegrown-talent-to-ensure-longterm-seabl-success/news-story/bdf00d878ae2ce13e4cb92c3fa86e7cd

MtGambier splashing the cash around it seems.

Ballarat has brought back imports, Hooley, Short, no word on Moller yet though and he was missed greatly in that final. Seabl looking very strong next season.

who are mt gambier splashing the cash on?

Lewis Thomas

So he won't be in Hobart? Heard rumours they're chasing a big from SA. Anyone know who that might be?

Joel Spear off to DV.

highly doubt the pioneers have splashed much cash on thomas. good signing though. cant see him starting, but will certainly add depth. expect he effectively replace jones from their bench.

Hill or Daly gone from Mt G? Have heard they will have some changes so presume something is happening there?

Yeah Wally leads a charmed life.

Thomas now official.

bendigo is quiet. any news on coming out of there in respect to signings in the mens?

mount gambier player jack madgen has been picked up as a rookie by collingwood, obviously they wont have him off the bench anymore. will be interesting to watch if he can make it into the regular 22. somewhat following in the footsteps of ex mount gambier player josh jenkins.

Hobart resigned Mathiang Muo & Kathleen Scheer

Hobart way too small atm

Who have Hobart signed ???? :)))

Anthony Stewart also said that he was talking to Cody Ellis and Rhys Vague but would only sign one of those players.
So more than likely no 2nd american import in hobart.

Adam Doyle to Geelong...

not surprised to hear doyle moving from bendigo, i have heard that he hated it there and were issues from the get go.

I heard Doyle looking to stay in SA, few clubs in the mix including his old junior club.

Supercats re-signing Gatlin and adding a young rookie John who is on United rookie list I think. They lose Gaff and Canan but keep everyone else.

Where is Gaff off too?

BigV 2018 thread suggests Gaff is moving around the corner to Corio Bay.

geelong needed to do something different to try and get to the next stage. i suspect that gaff didnt get an offer.

When is the draw out???

Majok Major would be a beast at SEABL level. Is that the ex footballer Jesse white?

Season starts April 6th?

Gaff was a great player. Like a few nowadays the game is getting tougher.

Any other rumours anyone knows of?

Doyle has a broken foot now.

Doyle has a broken foot now.

shouldnt impact seabl season

Like previous years, I would hope the draw would be out in Dec.

Kendle back to Bendigo

With Kendle back at the Braves they're already looking a mile better.

Braves have already signed another import.

Who

admit that kendle is certainly a great signing but wont be able to win it by himself. they will still need a decent quality american big to support him and another decent Australian as was the case when they won it all with DJ and kevin white.

Simon Conn re-signs for two years with Spectres

http://nunawadingbasketball.com.au/News/conn-re-signs-for-2-years

Braves have signed a stud import.

in addition to kendle? who is it?

Ray Turner.
http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/story/5141292/braves-sign-second-american-import/?cs=4783

Kilsyth looking strong, Isaac turner is new import, very good player. Ballarat also be o be very strong, should be a very competitive season as most teams seem to be on the up.

Ssuprising to read the Bendigo coach considers Turner a 4 man. He's a centre and not even close to being a PF. He has no range outside the key

THis year will be harder than last season for sure.

Chargers loading up.

Not really surprising at all to hear the Bendigo coach have something wrong

So is this the same coach as last season?

Sure looks like teams are stepping it up big time. Not much news out of mount gambier. They will need to bring in two quality imports this year to challenge rather than just one decent important and a limited minutes bench player. Will be interesting.

Article refers to Harvey as coach, so yes.

So the coach that won it all in 2016 doesn't know what he's doing?

would attribute that win to kendle, johnson and white. not sure the coach actually played a significant role. given the budget available to him compared to others he should at least be in the gf each year if not winning it. you were quick to mention 2016 how did he perform last year

Braves underperformed last season undoubtedly.
Losing Kendle was part of that. Time will tell.

without kendle (too good for seabl really) and johnson and to a far lesser extent white they were average. Their core group is average.

kendle immediately makes them contenders although he will need support, not sure about new import but if is good and they can have someone fill whites spot to that level they will contend again and would do so with a 12 year old coaching them.

Mount gambier are always good, Kilsyth, Bendigo and Ballarat will be up there, no conferences this season, so is it just a top four or eight play off. If only top four the above teams should fight it out.

I thought the Supercats were going to give it a shake, until injuries to two key players destroyed their chances. The men, of course. They are always there abouts so it will be interesting to see how they go this season after a change on their roster.

what is the change to their roster?

SEABL 2018 will be a top 8 with the structure same as AFL finals

That lucky loser system is horrible, especially with basketball playing series of three in playoffs. Odd.

Retirement and moving on of two bigs from Supercats roster is a big change.

Pretty sure SEABL has never had multiple-game finals series.
There is no "lucky loser" in AFL Finals system.

Game 1: 1 v 4
Game 2: 2 v 3
Game 3: 5 v 8
Game 4: 6 v 7

Game 5: Loser Game 1 v Winner Game 3
Game 6: Loser Game 2 v Winner Game 4

Game 7: Winner Game 1 v Winner Game 6
Game 8: Winner Game 2 v Winner Game 5

Game 9: Winner Game 7 v Winner Game 8

Yeah Gaff has moved on. Past seabl level IMO now.

Chargers may well have pulled off the best recruiting job of 2018. Stay tuned.

Xsdxd

Gtho351

Any word on majok majok?? And any Spectre/Ranger men signings?

"Exciting news for the Hobart Chargers... it's almost certain that Jarrad Weeks will return for 4 matches to start the season as the team awaits the arrival of Tre Nichols. Also, Zach White is likely to fill the remaining spot in the starting 5 alongside new recruit Craig Moller & Mathiang Muo.

^^^
Where do you get that from, heard Moller headed to either Nelson or Hawks Bay in NZ.

Neither. NZ was an option but no thanks was the reply.

They must have found a few dollars then, I'll believe it when it's formally announced.
He was exceptionally good for Ballarat, surprised they would let him go if playing seabl.

Formally announced today. Announcement is on Chargers Fb page

Ray Turner to Bendigo, 28 year old import four man.

Yes you have said that before. More Braves announcements to come. What did Harvey do to you?

Has Hobart got anyone else other Muo and Moller, do they have a 4/5 man. Weeks to play the point for month I beleive.

Did you not read the quote above? You seem to bag Harvey for no reason. Clearly there is a grudge here. The Chargers have concluded their side.
Braves have more announcements to come. Sorry how many championships do you have? Do you even play?

According to interview with coach on Fb page, there'll be an announcement of a centre next week

Pretty simple. Pay attention.

Chargers?

Yes?

Recruiting coup of 2018. Moller could have gone to many other clubs but ultimately chose Hobart for the exposure and knocked back far more higher offers.

From The Mercury article (Paywall.)

"But he did say while they could not offer the financial contracts of other teams, the incentive of personal development saw Moller head south for this season.
"It is becoming easier to sell the product," Stewart said.
“We've got the best crowds in the league, we’ve got the best venue and we are pushing towards an NBL team in the future.”

hard to say if it the recruiting coup of the season at this stage when so many rosters not complete.

would think some teams will come up with some decent signings still yet.

with the season not kicking off until april i always find it a little be strange that teams lock in their imports so early unless of course they a returning.

interested in thoughts on the same

Deba George re signs with the Bandits.

Andronicus returns to the Braves and expected to sign Indiana Faithful.

Bendigo must be spending big $$$$

Majok Deng to the Pioneers

Tom Daly commits for 2 seasons

Deng a huge signing, fits well with the pioneers squad. will be a tough cover for other seabl teams.

no surprise with daly returning but is certainly quality. all seabl team last year.

pioneers obviously will be contenders again.

no imports signed yet, think earlier reports that hill not returning. so im guessing at least one import still to come

Any news out of the Sabres or Blues?

Good on her

pioneers announcing another signing tomorrow!

Presumably he replaces Doyle. Not sure how he gets any sort of looking at Nbl level though.

Swetalla re ups with the Specs.

Dexter KD signs with tigers, probably be at Kings next year, they don't have enough 2/3 men. :):)

Chargers to have a dreads starting 5?

Hill returns to pioneers. Thought he was leaving.

will pioneers still be adding an import?

all aussie squad. good flexibility then to have ability to add import later if things aren't working out or if there are injuries. Of course all depending on the $.

Lots of money spent in The Mount for sure

Dayum

What I don't understand is how SEABL don't insist on Mt Gambier having a women's team. They have a massive advantage because they only have to fund one program. You take away the women's team from nearly every other team in the league and they would probably play in five straight grand finals too. New teams entering the league are told they have to have both a men's and women's program but Mt Gambier are allowed to continue putting all their money into just a men's team. Makes no sense to me.

Sydney only have a women's team.

The original entry rules didn't require you to have a woman's team.

Sydney Women are a recently added team

Yes not sure how that can happen without the equivalent means team.

Dexter Kernich-Drew joins the Tigers.

good signing

Are there any practice games coming up that anyone has heard about?

Can you please provide a link to this DV schedule as my current schedule doesn't have us playing DV.

Don't worry I found it in their calendar. Guess I better check with our coach and office...

Looking at all these announcements I don't see Diamond Valley here at all. Looking at their website I don't see anyone that makes them a side that will push anyone. Are they holding something back? Thought maybe they had some WNBL announcements but NO

You're kidding right? Diamond Valley have made numerous announcements boasting WNBL talent. Possibly the most talent laden women's team on paper thus far.

Jarry is gonna play? I hope she has some sought good medical advice from various sources.

whats happening with Kilsyth and Frankston both been very quiet

You forgot the best player of the lot for Kilsyth - Sam Daly

Anyone notice Ben Harvey on the Hawks coaching staff? In particular the United game.

Melbourne as favourites...this is the age of the Hot Take, I guess.

Melbourne as favourites...this is the age of the Piss Take, I guess. (Corrected for accuracy)

Drmic to play at Dandenong

Pre season tournament Highett, Thunder and Chargers in Launceston this weekend.

Highest? You mean McKinnon?

Not sure saw something on the news tonight. Perhaps misheard?

Chargers Men lose both. Thunder win both. McKinnon split the weekend. (Men) Pointless.

^ Correction Thunder split, chargers lose both and McKinnon won both.

It is still February. Don't worry much about practice game results. There are six weeks until SEABL starts and some teams are still waiting for imports.

Dandenong get a practice game win over Bendigo by 20.

Men

NO imports for either side?

I saw former Charger Cam Bennerman in Launceston a few weeks ago playing with Hobart vs. the Thunder. They lost but he looked good. Not sure whats going on but could be interesting

No imports playing for Dandenong, I think Bendigo had full squad with 2 imports

Dandenong have drimic signed and I'm hearing Creek after the com games, better than imports.

Creek should be trying Europe not SEABL!

Has Creek got a Euro passport?

Bennerman is training with the Chargers to keep his fitness up. He is always welcome in Hobart now that the Rush era is over.

Chargers lost all games on that weekend. No Moller, No Muo and no Tre. Bennerman played well.

Dandy Women

Toddhunter
Roberts
Madgen
Fadjlevic
Lavey
Rowe
Pizzey
Anstey

Creek could easily play in Europe.

Thats cool Bennerman is training with the Chargers. He acually did look good that weekend and at times there looked to be some team chemestry. He could be a nice snag for someone, I heard possibly the Tigers.

any news out of the trial games over the weekend?

Short lead up for the players playing in the nbl grand final. For those involved with the grand final on a Saturday you wouldn't think they would get to threre seabl clubs by Wednesday, Thursday at the earliest.

So unlike other state leagues SEABL is starting AFTER NBL Finals? Good move, unlike those leagues that have already started.

Good, they shouldn't overlap with NBL. Stupid SBL (WA) and Premier League (SA)!

Tre Nichols arrives in Hobart.
Paywall article.

" HOBART'S newest import comes with plenty of hype and Tre Nichols is ready to set the SEABL alight when the Chargers kickstart their season next Friday. Nichols might be small in stature at 175cm but he is touted as an excitement machine and aims to hit the ground running when the Chargers host Kilsyth at the DEC. The Texas-born point guard is no stranger to Australian basketball having spent three seasons playing with the South West Slammers in Western Australia, and arrived in Hobart on Tuesday following a stint in Saudi Arabia, which he feels will have him primed for the physical nature of the SEABL.
"It was a good experience, to get over there and experience that entire Middle East-type culture, it was great," Nichols said. “Over there it was more physical, the game is really physical and they played some good basketball. “There was a lot of athleticism in the league as well, it definitely helped my game.
“Being around the game in Australia, I know the guys get pretty rough as well, but the Saudi Arabian league, getting over there and exposure will help me for this next chapter.”
While new to town there is one familiar face within the Chargers camp in Mathiang Muo, with the pair having been opponents in the WA league.
Nichols, who is likened to last year’s guard Chris Whitehead but with a deadlier perimeter game, is looking forward to joining forces with Muo rather than trying to curb his influence.
“We had previously had talks about playing with each other and teaming up, the opportunity presented itself and we jumped on it,” Nichols said. “I enjoy the game of basketball, I play the game with my emotions on my sleeve and I feel like me as a player, I can bring a lot to the team, a lot of excitement to the fans and hopefully get us a championship his year. “They play an exciting style which was another factor which drew me here.”

I know most of this forum is of the opinion of 'lolWASBL' but this guy will be very very good in the SEABL. If he had a couple more inches he would be getting NBL interest. Keen to see how he performs in the SEABL.

There are 3 players running around in various comps that deserve an NBL shot. He is one of them.

The others?

One is in Bendigo.

Anyone who has seen Tre Nichols play, is team oriented or is he just an out and out shooter, what are his strengths.

lets just say hes a scorer, 25 pts ,3 assts game in sbl last yr, and runs his own facebook tre nichols fan page.

"..and runs his own facebook fan page"

what does this have anything to do with anything??

Nothing to see there. 1687 supporters.
He will tear the seabl apart.

Frankston light on in both men and women.

For guard play they may need to pick up Bennerman. Dude had 37 pts effortlessly a few nights ago bombing 3's from all over the place! I saw Tre and Cam chatting a bit after the game. They could be an interesting combo.

What combo is that?

I am hearing some SEABL teams are contemplating forming break away competitions, in some dispute with BA apparently. Costs are high and making it difficult for clubs to be viable, maybe other issues at play also.

Those rumours have been about for years.

Frankston being light on is an understatement, will be lucky to win a game

So who you got for the ship? For me it will be mt gambier v Kilsyth in the gf. Pioneers to get it done again.

Bendigo and Ballarat will be strong but mount gambier and Kilsyth look favourites.

If you could only have 1 of Anthony Drmic or Peter Hooey who do you take?

^^^^

Neither, but probably Hooley if had to choose.

Round1 Chargers Vs Cobras will give a fair indication for the Favourite.

Is Moller going to playing for chargers, he's still in Melbourne and they have clinics all week, chargers would not have trained together.

Yes their import arrived last week. Moller will fit in, they still have another import to arrive too. Is their a point?

OK. You got it. Bet against Hobart all the time please.

Tre is the point. He's a shorty (shorter than Tiri) but strong frame. At the moment Tiri looks to be the 2 guard which will not be enough. White is the other import as a big. Hobat desperately needs a legit wing and a leader.

Yes no point in mentioning Moller or Muo into your team then. Oops.

Oops

Chargers get Page 3 of The Mercury and pages 52 and 53 full pages in colour. mens team on the left with player mug shots and a writeup with the Women on the right in the same format.

Is Moller in town, is he playing, Kilsyth would start favourite.

NO one has tipped Hobart for anything in the 'expert' polls. Get on the Cobras at $8.25. THat's how favourite they are.

Maybe that the womens odds?

The 'favourites' are paying $6.50. Chargers $1.10

Chargers back page of the Mercury and a sports article inside as well. That's 3 days Chargers on the back page this week

Imagine if they had an NBL team.

What, they would be on more pages in the Mercury if had an nbl team?? Its marketing, absolutely necessary when you have a team/ product.

Yeah happy to have had a Cobras bet too. I wont back them for all of the season that's for sure.

Graeme Dann really got that one wrong.

triple-double for Lucas Barker tonight for Rangers against Miners, 22/10/10

Great to get the W backing the Cobras. Thanks GD.
Good to see that the favourites got up at $6.50. Women smashed the Chargers as well. Doubled up on that too.

Lucas Barker gets the Triple in a losing side.

Skin in the game Matt. Not knuckles.

Diamond valley women's got smashed last night.

not sure what score box your looking at but its a clear 73 to 51 Ballarats way win showing .

going to be a long season for Rangers if thats how they are going to play,because Ballarat were all over the place its not like that was even a good game they played to win it.,wheres all their players gone,I know Lavey is at Comm games but where are the rest of them,

Big crowd in Hobart, couldn't get the wins though. Will take time for team to gell , should get better from here, lots of strong teams this year. Nicholls with 25, Moller with 22 and 17 boards. Kilsyth shot at 46% to Hobarts 35%, von hoffe good for Kilsyth. Kilsyth will will be very hard to beat with Ballarat and mt gambier plus throw a blanke over the rest.

Dandenong was missing .. toddhunter, lavey, and Magden. they will be fine

Time for a few wagers today. Reasonable odds on offer to continue the winning streak ;)

Moller was the only bright spot for the Chargers. A bit too aggressive at times to score but he was trying. Tre ended up with 25 but it was an impactful 25. Moller is gonna have to score but also create for others if they stand a chance of winning anything. Their guards (bench included) are to weak. They need a wing that can shoot and slash badly.

Yeah 17 rebounds is meaningless.

So supercats favs over the Pioneers. Still good value with cobras and Thunder. Men.

Supercats get the W

Reply #682725
re: SEABL 2018
Dandenong was missing .. toddhunter, lavey, and Magden. they will be fine

Madgen and Toddhunter both too injured and Lavey well not sure how much impact she will have

I think you meant to say Tres 25 was NOT impactful. He's just too short to be a 2 and struggled to finish in the paint amongst the trees. Moller is for sure the bright spot for the Chargers. - Gambier looked good aye?

Lost money on the Pioneers but otherwise successful. The Cobras @$6.50 was a bargain.

any good bets like the kilsyth one?

any good bets like the kilsyth one?

^ what he said. Need my fill.

MtG is paying $1.22. Nothing there to see.
Thunder Vs Chargers tomorrow should be game of the week.Odds available only on the day.

"Pioneers at Home into Cavs & Houston to win their respective series into Crows inot Eagles is cash money."

Can you repeat that?

Pioneers no brad hill no deng thought the $6 for Albury was value but it was not. Pioneers spanked them winning 127 to 94. They had 37 in the first quarter. Tommy Daly with40/5/11. Burdon with 26. Shows why they win championships. None of them play for there own numbers but buy into team first attitude. Daly should be in the Nbl. Burdon one of the best shooters in the country and a smart player should have far more Nbl gigs than he did. Deng will develop a great deal in their system. Nbl clubs are crazy if they are not leaning on coach hill or trying to get him involved with there programme. Their usual deep bench guys can hold there own. Albury might not end up being much but pioneers will make it back to the big dance again. Their club just get it.

Miners lose to coe, upset win there.

If you are talking about betting odds in a semi pro league thread you definitely have a gambling problem.. smh

bet365 posting up odds for all state leagues. Get on it people.

Good odds about in the seabl. Just need to scour all games and teams.

I agree

Exactly. Keep that gambling crap outta here.

NO addicts here.
Thanks for all your anonymous contributions for the teams you dont support here.

We need more odds discussions and identification of value!

NO you do your homework. Identifying the value odds makes them lower.

This a forum so it's about sharing. Sharing is caring.

Yep ensure you back anyone playing franga. Caring is sharing.

Yep Franga men and women. Wow how can a team suit up 7 players this early in the season.

Frankston are junk.
Paying severely for their decision not to play YL for a couple of years. Any young talent they had is gone. Unable to recruit except for other SEABL/Big V team rejects.
Women's team is a debacle. Domestic teams would beat them.

Chargers men beat Thunder convincingly.

https://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/5343440/thunder-has-work-to-do-after-chargers-defeat/?cs=88.

Frankston SEABL women's team are missing 4 starters, they'll be competitive once they have their full team. Definitely paying for the short sighted decision to get rid of youth league.

You have 20 games only this season. No conferences. They better hurry up and play otherwise it will be all over even before they arrive.

#4055 name the 4 missing starters? They have an import coming in this week so who are the other 3?

The chargers are 1 slasher/shooter away from a championshion run.

Who are the starters that Frankston women are missing?

Frankston have no money to pay players not even starters so dont know who they will get,what they have is as good as it gets

FDBA MEMBERS URGENT EVENT

LIFE MEMBER - SENIOR DOMESTIC MEMBERS-BLUES MEMBERS

IT IS NOW TIME TO ACT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH YOU MUST ATTEND IF YOU CARE AT ALL ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE CLUB

On Monday the 23rd of April the current board are holding the Annual General Meeting at the Frankston Stadium at 7pm.

THIS IS A MUST ATTEND EVENT

This might seem like a normal activity however IT IS NOT. The current board have not met the constitution rules by following the guidelines with the Annual General Meeting. The rules state clearly.


RULE
13. Notice of general meetings [including annual general meeting]
(1) The General Manager of the Association, at least 21 days, or if a special resolution has been proposed at least 30 days, before the date fixed for holding a general meeting of the Association, must cause to be sent to each member of the Association, a notice stating the place, date and time of the meeting and the nature of the business to be conducted at the meeting.
(2) Notice may be sent
(a) by prepaid post to the address appearing in the register of members; or
(b) by facsimile transmission or electronic transmission; or
(c) by the display of notices in prominent positions in the Frankston Basketball Stadium (3)

The board are hiding the meeting from all the members and there has been 1 single A4 notice placed on the board at the back of the stadium (not multiple and definitely not in a prominent position). This is the way the current board wants to avoid a take-over or new board members joining that are not pre-selected people by them.

The Constitution also states that only Life Members and Senior domestic team delegate of which there are 356 can vote.

BUT HERE IS THE PROBLEM AND WHY WE ALL NEED TO TURN UP

The FDBA current board made the date the 23rd of April and the rules state you must give 21 days notice which means the single notice we assume was placed in the back corner on Easter Monday ( stadium was closed so it must have been a special trip) the centre was closed for domestic and Blues for the next two weeks which then HAS NOT allowed anyone to nominate outside their pre-arranged people.

The rules state nominations must be delivered to the General Manager of the Association not less than 14 days before the date fixed for the holding of the annual general meeting. This means that from the the 2nd of April to the next date the 9th of April when the stadium was closed to competition and members the single notice in the back corner did not allow any nomination to be submitted prior to the 14 days.

The action of the current board and management are showing a total disregard for the members and are hiding their actions:

It is time for a new board we need more than 3 member to be present to put forward a poll as per the following rule


18. Poll at general meetings [including annual general meeting]

(1) If at a meeting a poll on any question is demanded by not less than 3 members, it must be taken at that meeting in such manner as the Chairperson may direct and the resolution of the poll shall be deemed to be a resolution of the meeting on that question.

(2) A poll that is demanded on the election of a Chairperson or on a question of an adjournment must be taken immediately and a poll that is demanded on any other question must be taken at such time before the close of the meeting as the Chairperson may direct.

WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH EVERYONE

THE POLL QUESTION IS AS FOLLOWS TO BE PUT FORWARD BASED ON MORE THAN 3 MEMBERS LIFE MEMBERS OR SENIOR DELEGATES:

SHOULD A MOTION BE MOVED TO CANCEL THE CURRENT MEETING AND THAT A NEW MEETING BE HELD IN 21 DAYS AND ALL POSITIONS BE MADE VACANT AND NEW NOMINATION BE ACCEPTED BY A REPRESENTATIVE FROM BASKETBALL VICTORIA, WHO SHOULD CONDUCT THE NEW ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING IN 21 DAYS TIME.


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Game of the week surely? Braves Vs Chargers

nah, game of the week in mount gambier

Vs Diamond Valley. Clearly a DV fan. Mtg by 20.

No deng, Daly, Jamieson, hill only about 1/4 fit and they still won by close on 30! When you consider dv pushed Bendigo bendigo to a point realise pioneers are deep. Guys on their bench could get significant minute elsewhere. Pioneers will get the ship again

DV women lose another game. That roster is seriously underperforming.

Roster or coach at DV? She has already lost the playing group.

melb tigers should be booted out of the seabl losing by almost 60 and not even scoring 50. maybe gaze could coach;)

I see the kings latest Melbourne tigers recruit shot at 20%, had 7 turnovers and was -46 , will fit right in, jacks it up don't play d and likes to give it to the other side.

DV women V Sydney,29 assists for Sydney to just 9 for DV with a guard filled roster, think heir in lies your problem,but then they have taken on basically the core group from Canberra caps WNBL and they did the exact same thing so thinking its the playing group this time not the coaching

Yep, Mt Gambier are deep. Wonder how deep they'd be if they had to pay for a women's program?

dv men did look average.

no idea on pioneers spend or any other team.

i think all of pioneers bench are locals (excluding 6th man), i doubt they are being paid anything.

bendigo this week would surely have to be confident unless pioneers get some players back

David Barlow now playing for the Sabres. No longer easy beats.

Not sure how much Mt Gambier are paying but you'd reckon Deng, Daly, Jamieson, Thomas, Hill and Burdon would all be on good coin. Thomas is their sixth man and is probably earning more than a lot of starters in the league.

Why haven't SEABL forced them to enter a women's team? They've been in the league for 30 years without ever having to have a women's team. That gives them a massive advantage over the rest of the league. I'm surprised the others clubs allow it to continue.

Sabres to add another import as soon as this week too.

Why should Mt Gambier be forced to subsidise a women's team through their men? Just because most other clubs have to do it doesn't mean two wrongs make a right.

Still an unfair advantage in my opinion. Pretty sure if you gave all the other clubs the option of putting all their resources into one team they'd jump at it.

It's got nothing to do with their recent success. It's about having a level playing field which SEABL doesn't have if most of the clubs are forced to pay for two programs whilst others are allowed to only have one.

My point exactly. It's not just about Mt Gambier and their recent success. It should be the same rule for everyone. If you want to play SEABL, you should have to have a men's and a women's team.

You can say what you like about all those guys living in SA; it doesn't change the fact that they're able to put all of their resources into one team when (nearly) everyone else has to pay for two.

While four teams are allowed to only have one program the league is never going to be equal. You said the other clubs should look at what they are doing. I can tell you what they're doing - paying for two teams while Mt Gambier and others only have to pay for one. Spin it any way you like, it's a massive advantage that in my opinion, the league shouldn't allow.

SEABL being the second tier below NBL could be a lot better if they scrapped the womens' teams. Imagine how much more money could be invested in the men's sides and grow it to a national second tier league.

^ and that comment right there is everything thats wrong with this sport,the 'womens'teams carry the mens in some clubs you cretin

SEABL certainly wouldn't grow if you took women's teams out of it.

If anything the League's days are numbered

No, the men's teams carry the women's in most clubs, you cretin. You're happy to be propped up but don't like it when the fact is stated.

Who is forcing these clubs to have two teams? Isn't it the choice of each individual club? Mount gambier doesn't have the luxury of huge junior associations funding their teams. Teams from larger associations and larger population basis have greater access to players to retain and recruit. They have far more opportunities to generate income/sponsorship. Teams from such areas have a significant advantage certainly significantly less travel costs for Melbourne teams

Frankston choke again.
Spending big $$$ for zero wins.

It's a seabl rule now that if you enter that competition to have mens and womens teams.
Established cubs like MtG etc weren't under that rule.

Mt Gambier aren't the only stand alone club without a junior association.

If the league aren't going to make it compulsory to have both teams then all teams should be given the option to drop one of their programs.

Pretty sure that won't happen so I think the four single team clubs should be forced to start a second program.

They won't as then the women would fall by the wayside.

It's nice that Reality exists without reality.

Forget diversity and inclusiveness in 2018. To win a title, just scrap half your senior pathway and expect the money to be redistributed to the 'important half'. Easy!!

I really hope Reality and Anon^^^ aren't running a basketball team/club/association any time soon.

What? The debate stems from the continous talk about SEABL becoming a legit second tier below the NBL. If that were to happen you can't carry the women along with you as you need to free up money. Obviously not talking about the current setup of SEABL. So quick to pull the trigger when you feel violated.

If you want a level playing field and you want SEABL to be a true second tier competition, every team should have to have both a men's and a women's team.

If the criteria is that you have to have both programs to enter the league (which it should be) then Mt Gambier and the others should have to do the same. Just because the rule wasn't there when they started shouldn't mean they get a competitive advantage now.

And the size of their population shouldn't come into it either. There should be a clear cut rule that says if you want to play SEABL you need both a men's and women's program.

how many nbl teams also have a womens team?

how many WNBL teams also have a mens teams?

Hardly comparing apples with apples. NBL and WNBL are totally separate leagues.

MtG easy betting favs over Braves.

"how many nbl teams also have a womens team?

how many WNBL teams also have a mens teams?"

Exactly.

"MtG easy betting favs over Braves."

The head-to-head odds are too short. How about taking the line MtG -9.5? Thoughts?

Anyone missing for either Mt G or Bendigo?

I would have thought -20 , so its a good bet.

NBL and WNBL are totally different entities. 1 is a privately run business and the other is controlled by the peak body

Somebody must have have had a decent bet on the mt gambier v bendigo game, can't get on anywhere. Pioneers without Daly, deng, hill. Bendigo were at $5 seems overs.

Not really. Limits on SEABL are very low. What would've happened is they closed/suspended the market due to that injury news.

Happy to have had a winning bet on the Braves @$6.50.

30,000 distributed 24 page pullout spread today on the Chargers in The Mercury today. Unprecedented in SEABL history or NBL history.

Pioneers were with them for most of the night. Can't see the braves getting close once Daly, deng, hill are back.

I'm happy that no poster on hoops has ever had a losing bet.

#543 what a bad tip.

"MtG easy betting favs over Braves." It was statement that MtG were easy favs thats all.
I lost money on NWT. Sandy must have been shitful. Happy to post my loss.

Can Franga break the drought tonight. I mean either team?

Dandenong long odds to beat Kilsyth! Will either team have their head coach & will it matter?

Cobras $1:30. Rangers $3.40.

Fair odds?

The drums are beating at Launceston with their new wonder boy Coach, with WNBA connections! The locals getting restless with his lack of commitment to scout opposition teams & his cluelessness in developing defensive schemes to even slow down the opposition. If Torns can't turn around this slump soon Coach DWash could be heading home sooner than expected!

BRush to return Yay

Lost money on Sabres V NWT and Geelong losing.
How bad are DV losing to the Tigers?
Cellar dwellers today Gunners and Tigers.

anyone know why kernich-drew isn't playing? was interested to see how he goes with him trying to earn a new contract in the nbl

Gunners are shitful again.

Braves lose to the kids and Specs lose their 1st game to Dandy.
Supercats drop 2.
Sandy loses to the Tigers and Cobras roll on.

Anyone want to comment on the standard of officiating?

If I did I would be fined.

The game I saw on the weekend was probably one of the worst officiating I have seen for a long time. There were literally people crashing to the floor for "no reason" as fouls were never called.
Never seen 2 of the refs before either. If they walked away feeling "what a great game we had" shame on them.

I watched the rangers womens game at Nunawading,officiating was atrocious but it was bad both ways , Rangers got the win,but Spectres actually were the better team out there,Whittle was getting smashed and nothing called,Roberts can certainly use her body to bump players out of the key lol.
good to see Madgen on the court but she was also getting hacked and few if any calls,hope she finds her feet though she was pretty timid looking out there for her first game back. Shame Rangers lost Antoniadou,shes such a great a defensive player

I watched a few games a couple weekends ago, the referees were very good, yes they make mistakes but it evens out normally.
Hobart never led till 37 second from the end against Geelong and Moller hits a 3, followed by two free throws to close out Geelong. Geelong led by up to 13 points and mostly between 6 to 9 so could be considered unlucky.

That game was one of the worst I have seen in a very long time.

So good bets on offer tonight.

Trist playing for Frankston tomorrow.

Played tonight & Franga still lost.
They will keep adding players until they start winning. Paying lots of $$$ for no result.

with 4 mins to go the other team mates of Trist lost it.

What happened with MTG NUNA?

Do Tigers have any chance of winning?

How many games have Franga choked in the last 5 minutes, lol.
Coach either pulling his hair out or needs to bear some responsibility.
Who are they going to bring in next to make the coaches look better?

Mount v nana canceled due transport issues.

I dont think the refs could get there. I saw on refs post "delayed in melb"
With Trist in there side It's only a matter of time before Frangs start knocking off a few teams. He;s the real deal.

Yep, might save the debacle that's going on down there.
For how long tho?,that is the question.

Best team they've had on the floor since Al Mcaughtry had a year there.

They are the big joke of the basketball world.
They need a big clean out and start again, but it will never happen while Jolly is there.
The board should be ashamed of themselves.

Bendigo lose the the Tigers!

Never take a lot of notice about the box score stuff but Trist was a -13 and a -16 on the Tassie double this weekend.
They will get better for sure but how they lost last night so badly is amazing.

Teams who "preach" youth development over actual winning, its nothing but an excuse for having no money to bring in valuable imports. At that point what other choice do you have BUT youth development. Seabl is a league full of kids. The better teams i.e. Mt. Gamb., they having grown men. Thats why they win! Seabl needs new management to be honest that will hikd teams to higher standards- it'll be good for everyone in the end.

HOw will new management solve your supposed problem? Never heard so much piffle.
How are the kids in Bendigo doing? Kilsyth? Canberra?
Nuna is full of ageing men that get the job done. You want youth and wins? Forget it. Other than the CoE who are doing it well finally that will never happen.

All Hobart bench are locals, Zac white lives in Tasmania so is local as well though he is American.

So White, Muo, Nichols and Moller and then the locals. A local American,(White) every team has one.

SEABL isn't a development league.

The Franga crisis continues. One win for the entire SEABL program to this stage of the season should be ringing alarm bells. But who there is actually running basketball.
Do the have a DOC?
Pretty funny that the CEO is also now the Assistant Mens Coach - tipping he won't be too concern e with the performance. Unless he’s positioning himself for the men’s job !!
Next addition to the women’s team will be Steph Reid - and she won’t be cheap.
Just keep adding players and spending $$$$.

$250,000 on a Men's team. Bullshit. That may be 2 teams. If it's only the Men's team then I agree. If it's a mens team then Frankston are paying way over the odds. Trist was terrible this weekend.

Yes Trist looked slow and not very athletic, he was shorter than Moller by at least a few centimetres.

Frankston band Aid approach will not heal what has gone on down there. The fish rotts from the head, not only that there is a major seperation of all programs and all committees. What happened to the so called BASKETBALL Victoria investigation is it still going.

Why are the people involved not stood down until it's either cleared up or they are found out. Do they have a DOC you ask yes they do but they pay him to not work work and have done for 6 months. More people resigning from office along with a tainted culture. It gets written about,talked about but nothing can by done as the CEO is Protected by his mate.

The committee has no idea what is really going on and never will until it is exposed.

Who is the chairman of Blues what his experience in running and developing a program ???? His record is 1/17 the CEO record is 1/17 the president whoever that is record is 1/17 the committee record is 1/17.
Dont blame the coaches this record is on the aforementioned. Imagine if Grant Wallace had this record or MIke Brookens they would be their... oops sorry there not.

They have lost the money, CEO has lost his creditability, Cahirman of Blues has no idea and just rants stupidity without any common sense on Facebook.

The committee are blinded by the light and led by the avangelist CEO who is ducking and weaving faster and harder than tony mokbel.

The place is a discrace, through more Money into the SEABL it will not touch the service against the legal fees they have been paying and pay to try and hush the crowd.

What’s the solution.

Any ideas.....

Where do they get all this money from to throw away?

Why are Frankston paying the DOC not to work? You cant be serious?

games of the week. Men.

1. chargers Vs MtGambier. tonight.
2. chargers Vs Spectres. tomorrow night at the graveyard.

Braves lose to the CoE.
Charges in a belter of a game beating MtG 108.106.

Coenraad. Awesome in that game. 40mins. 25/16 fga, 5/10 3pa 5rbds, 3 t/o, 3 pf.
39 points. Possibly his last game too.

The Mercury pay wall article on Coenraad and the Chargers W.
CHARGERS American import Tre Nichols again showed why he is fast becoming the most exciting point guard in the SEABL after helping guide Hobart to a pulsating victory over Mt Gambier.

In arguably the match of the season at the DEC on Friday night, the Chargers edged out the defending champion 108-106, with Kyle Tipene missing an open three-point attempt at the buzzer that would have snatched the win for the Pioneers.

Nichols scored 25 of his 36 points in the second half, catching fire late when the hosts needed him most after NBL veteran Tim Coenraad (39 points) went on a rampage for Mt Gambier in the first half.


Chargers forward Craig Moller gets airborne for a mighty dunk.
Nichols also dished out seven assists, including one to BJ Radcliffe who knocked down a corner three with 25 seconds remaining to put the Chargers up 107-104. Former Charger Lewis Thomas (25 points) dragged the Pioneers back to within a point following Radcliffe's huge bucket, and when Mathiang Muo only managed to convert one of two free throws with 9.5 seconds left, the visitors had time to send the contest into an extra period or snatch the win.

But the home side kept the ball out of the hands of Coenraad and sharpshooter Erik Burdon, forcing Tipene, who had attempted only six shots all night, to try to sink the last shot of the match.

"That was the reigning champs with their backs to the wall, I haven’t seen that high quality a game for a long, long time as far as the shooting, it was unbelievable," said Chargers coach Anthony Stewart.

“There were shots being knocked down everywhere, Tim Coenraad had 26 in the first half, but Tiri [Masunda] did a great job on him in the second. It was something to watch.”

Craig Moller finished with 27 points and 13 rebounds, while Muo (17), Zac White (12) and Masunda (11) ensured all five starters hit double figures.

The Chargers back up against Nunawading on the road on Saturday night.

Coenraad -2 played 40 minutes
Nichols. +5 played 37.23
Moller +13 only played 31 minutes due to foul trouble, had 3 assists as well.
Masunda +13 A's well in 31 minutes.

Some players play D others just score more.

Crowd at DEC?

About 1000.

NWT win again. Chargers lose. CoE get a reaming by Tigers.

Ok surely now someone at Frankston has the Balls to ask what the hell is going on. 1 from 19 for the senior program. I drive to Ballarat tonight with hope - absolute joke. They sacked Wallace and replace him with a guy who has never coached and won't get a job anywhere else. No idea and if you think that’s harsh google the Anzac Day game versus Dande as a reminder. And I’m not even going to mention the women - ok I just did !! How they couldn’t beat Ballarat tonight is beyond me.
Someone needs to take control of bball down there.

I only watched on the live stats (and not the whole game, was flicking between a few games) it looked like one of Frankston's imports is injured again, they're still missing a starter who's out with an ankle injury, they're still missing their starting PG (if you're to believe the Steph Reid rumours) and it looked like Sammy Simmons did not play in the 2nd half, so possibly injured again. They've been disorganised in terms of their roster (only seem to have 8 players, from the start and then had a shocking run with injuries, that's sport. They're actually doing surprisingly well when you consider all of that.

^^^^
LOL

Frankston 0-11 and doing surprisingly well - give us a spell LOL ^^^ 629402!!
I suppose the men have over achieved as well at 1-10 !!!

Let's hope TRIST plays better in the NBL than his current SEABL form.

They have 2 imports, only one of them suited up this weekend.

pioneers are languishing in 12th they might struggle to even qualify for the finals. thoughts?

Coenrad been playing for the pioneers, so yes injuries but still tough to beat.

man, the Braves have been a disappointment. Too bad Turner and Kendle have no consistent help - both deserve better

The pay that Coenraad is on is a lot and he might not play for them again.

Was anyone at the Spectres game on Sat night? Thoughts on the reffing please.

Which game men's or women’s?

Refs were very even till 1/2 time, second half was woeful. A slight touch at one end was a foul and at the other you could take an arm off favouring the home team, neither good enough to win this season.

^^^^
Men, did not see the women.

Men's. I was told it was crap. Conn still gettingb the job done. replay in 2 weeks I see.

Conn gets away with pushing, shoving and whacking, not certain how. Still very effective from ten feet of the basket.

Pioneers have signed Sam McDaniel. Deng has been released injured and is pursuing nba camps.

Hicks got a tech for headbutting the ball off a Geelong score as his fifth - they'd already been warned. He got a couple of soft calls - one screening, I think, and another pushing in back on offensive rebound at the FT line.

Conn absorbs a lot of contact in the lane and is often hit on the elbow without the call. Stewie definitely wasn't happy late in the Hobart game and I'm surprised we haven't seen anything further from the league re the words used that forced his ejection.

stewie can seemingly do as he pleases without the league giving a rats including deliberately pushing a player during the course of a game without even a reprimand.

Conn has all conned if what I saw last Saturday is the norm.

Maybe Stewart should make a complaint to the SEABL about the reffing then. Who would review that? Tim?
Review himself? THat ain't gonna happen soon.

Another great game tonight. Miners vs Chargers in Hobart.

Moller with 43 pts & 15 rebs vs Miners

Miners beaten with the Chargers missing Mathiang Muo and Cameron Brown.
HUGE effort from the Chargers with the team trailing at every quarter.
Miners a lot of depth hoever with King-Davis in foul trouble that caused a few headaches for the Miners. Hooley is a freak with his ability to penetrate the Chargers at times poor defence. Slashing and driving for what appeared to be easy baskets.
Fox 8/12 from the field make it look easy too.
Interesting to see Mollers coach from United there as was Vince Crivelli.
Moller single handedly took the game by the neck and individually is one of the best games I have seen from any Chargers player. PLayer of the week without question.

Moller was unstoppable, two offensive fouls after scoring on what looked like and ones could had fifty. If chargers play defence and help Moller out at that end like they did in the second half today they could be very dangerous. Great game, thought Sam Short did a fantastic job on Tre Nichols, Hooley a couple good spin moves but was sent to Moller defensively but couldn't stop him. Fox very good for the visitors, got away with a few fouls early but the refs caught up with him. Zac White very good with great help from Thierry Masunda, BJ Radcliffe as well. Bench did there bit in front of a very good crowd.

Vickerman also sitting in a box watching.

Refs were their usual not up to the standard of play form.
1 local and 2 from outta town. Some absolute howlers in their were called that were clearly wrong.
The guy in the 3rd row with the assistance animal even saw it.

The refs were not great either way, it happens in sport, some go your way some against. It's not an easy job.

Crowd?

1057

Don't they need higher than that to show the NBL they are viable at the next level.

Why? Ask Vickerman and Crivelli who were there last night. Quality game and Moller crushed them all single handedly.

Spectres smash Cobras. Everyone seems to be talking Van Hofe. Why?
Pineau found out it seems. 2pts 5rb, 2t0,3F . Cobras had 11 of 12 players in negative +/- with the only person in the plus, Pinneau. +1.
Game of the week next week Spectres Vs Chargers (at home)

Because NBL wants to see strong Chargers crowds at DEC as one of the requirements for gaining an NBL entry.

Good to see Frankston women beat the u15 COE!

Hobart getting over 1000 people to watch seabl they should do very well when Bogut,Goulding, Randle, Cotton etc come to town.

"...the women one their first game..." I laughed and laughed and laughed. It might not be "miss spelt", but it isn't correct either.

Within the league, COE are expected to make the men's playoffs this season. They will have some consistency problems week-to-week due to playing over 20 different players, but they are tough.

The Frankston coaches know their issues more than anyone else. They both know that they don't have the depth or calibre of players to compete. Will definitely not be rebuilt in one season.

Stop hating and love the game!! There will always be some teams struggling each season. Swings and roundabouts...

The women add Reid this week. She'd be on a good wicket you'd imagine.

Hill out for the season for Pioneers. News articles suggest retirement due to ankle injury. Pioneers have also announced that they have signed an import. Clearly still think they can contest for the ship.

So they have a salary cap that is under spent? I thought they were broke?

Volunteer at a local hospital Millionaire hot seat, you've clearly got way too much time on your hands

Chargers claim another scalp after knocking off Ballarat last week and Nunawading tonight. Spectres minus Steele and Chargers minus Muo and Brown.

Moller another 28 points. Chargers winning the close ones.

Sam McDaniel new pioneers signing can play. Would certainly be a good development spot pick at least at the next level.

Miners by 5 in ot. Dexter k- d 22 but 8 turn overs.
Wilson 26 but t.o.
Hooley 20
Short 18

Miners down by 7 with minute less minute to play but got it to ot.

Maybe a link to your website said no one ever.

Kilsyth Cobras (89) vs Turner & Kendle (66)

Turner is a stats padder , not convinced Bendigo that good as early season reports.

Ballarat favourite now, Melbourne in over time last night and Nunawading today. The foul and free throw count in favour of Ballarat away from home seems strange though. 29 free throws to 9 and foul count of 22 to 10. Nunawading two losses over weekend.

NO Steele is the difference. Dont get too excited. Chargers beat the Miners a weeks ago.

Moller had to score 43 for chargers to win, won't happen every week. Ballarat have very good starting five and very solid bench. Ballarat also very well coached, will be very hard to beat.

Yes Moller did. Clearly no one in his former team could shut him down. Another 28 points the other night.

Bendigo too dominant in the women's side of things. Making light work of everyone.

Oh there is a womens seabl comp? :)

No games this weekend but at this stage Ballarat and Kilsyth probably the two fancied teams, have got good starters plus solid depth, Nunawading probably third pick.
As for the MVP probably Moller followed by Wilson who are both leading their sides admirably.

In case you missed it Spectres dropped both this weekend.

I would have to say Diamond Valley in the women's and Albury or Mt Gambier in the men’s have been the biggest disappointments thus far.

Gunners. Usually win a few games but this season zero W's

Opals Asia tour to destroy the last two weeks of the SEABL comp

Opals Asia tour to destroy the last two weeks of the SEABL comp

How?

You don't see how teams losing their best players destroys those teams?

Yep the Gunners are a bit strange. There are good players that are in Aussie and available (imports included) but they don't want to make any moves..it’s comical.

Dont tell the Torns they dont count