NBA - To Small

Certain leagues in EU doesn't suit as to small and needs the offence to completely run through him.

The above is before we even get to the off-court issues

Does seem suspicious.

I remember saying when we first signed Randle I was concerned by his inability to stick with a team for more than one season, constantly bouncing around in Europe mainly Turkey.

Funnily enough his 1.5 seasons with the 36ers is the longest stint he's ever had with a team in his career.

Can someone elaborate on his off-court issues in Adelaide? Are we talking the Twitter stuff or is there more?

There were a couple of off court instances when he was still with the team but most of them were towards the tail end of his tenure.

1) Calling out the Illawarra Hawks as a dirty team, saying he disliked the players.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/basketball/adelaide-sixers-mvp-jerome-randle-has-branded-illawarra-a-dirty-team/news-story/5c685dca7a7a9d860517087c67588b69

Unfortunately our captain Mitch Creek made things worse by re-iterating those sentiments as the face of the club.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/basketball/captain-creek-jumps-into-dirty-debate-agreeing-with-mvp-teammate-jerome-randle/news-story/c40510159d3cdccf4a3f982d51b77b26

I personally think this lit a fire under the Hawks who already did not need more motivation for the SF. I don't attribute the series loss to this one issue but it didn't help.

2) Then there was platter-gate, where Mrs Randle famously threw a plate of food over fans followed up by threats.

http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/4491159/its-disgusting-plate-of-food-reportedly-thrown-at-hawks-game/

There were several tweets after Randle had left and about the time of the NBL stars vs China games.

Personally I don't put any weight behind those tweets being some sort of shot at Joey Wright.

The x-is-dirty thing was nothing. And the food fight was after what was probably a frustrating game. Not ideal, but hardly a dealbreaker under stress. Maybe he has a vocal/involved partner - wouldn't be the first or last time in sport.

For almost every game last season, he was doing just fine with the team and coach.

As for his career, it's never really obvious why players are moved on from Euro gigs. Are they short term contracts, higher expectations, injuries, going unpaid or hating the experience?

It's not terribly uncommon for imports to hop from club to club - staying in one place for multiple seasons really seems to be the exception rather than the rule from what I've seen checking out player pages on realgm over the years.

Randle is a strong personality which is always going to rub some people the wrong way.

Zhordan was quite involved as a partner. My seats are near where the Players family used to sit, behind the old bench and she was often vocal and animated, particularly when things weren't going great. It didn't surprise me to hear that some Illawarra fans may have copped it. She was very passionate.

The whole cloud over what happened at the end of last season is a bit of a blight on what was otherwise a hugely successful couple of seasons with Randle. He still stuck around for essentially two seasons which is rare for an Adelaide import in recent memory. We have a recent history of either having duds, or having someone decent we can't or don't hold on to. His candour at wanting to come back and then following it up was true class. It's a shame there's a sour taste with the "he said, she said" of alleged contract negotiations for this season. It's unquestionable he brought fans out in droves, and he essentially built his own brand from the ground up whilst in Adelaide (camps, merch etc) so it's possibly a little bit of a shame for both parties that he couldn't stick around.

James Maloney is similar in the NRL, has NEVER resigned with the same club but success seems to follow him. Not sure about his personality bar reading the media reports but Sydney Kings had a policy this year of players of the best character only. Will be interesting how he gels with the other players.

Best character policy??

The Kings' management and recruitment strategy may yet prove to be the work of a great tactical genius such as we have not seen since ancient times.

Or....

They’ve proven the adage about merriment and breweries, and are now trying to buy their way out of a hole they dug through their own special blend of incompetence.

If it’s the latter, any character test would’ve been abandoned.

"As for his career, it's never really obvious why players are moved on from Euro gigs. Are they short term contracts, higher expectations, injuries, going unpaid or hating the experience?"

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That's unpaid thing is an untrue myth. There are strict rules that ban teams if they don't pay players. Partizan just got banned like a week ago, for being late on a player's payments, and they paid it immediately to get unbanned.

It's a game agents play, to gain some kind of leverage. The fact people actually believe European Union law allows professional sports clubs to not pay players (common belief outside Europe) is truly absurd. It's 2017 and we are talking about the European Union.

Rabbit41 - it happens, Euro leagues under pay often! ask DJ why he left a few years ago..

For the love of god, Joey Wright is not a dickhead. He is a passionate and strong willed coach who has the respect of every player regardless of admonishments.

the team got a long with Randle just fine. He didnt have a job, adelaide didnt have the money he wanted, sydney offered him a job... simple.

He didnt have a job, adelaide didnt have the money he wanted, sydney offered him a job... simple.

No, they're talking about off-season negotiations when he was asking $600k+ or whatever it was and Adelaide couldn't justify it.

Not sure that's what they're saying as no mention of his stint in Turkey in there so took it as after the fact.

I've heard it from enough Aussie and non-Aussie players re: European $$$ to believe it's true.

So we know that he absolutely despises being called Ant Man so will anyone in Adelaide be shouting that out in the stands ?

Great links

I hereby retract my recent comments about anonymous posters

European law, any team not paying players and coaches in full is banned from signing any new players, and if they refuse to pay them, banned from all competitions.

Every season, 2-3 teams get banned immediately, upon the first missed payments to players.

It's a myth that teams can get away with not paying players in Europe. It's simply not true. And it's an obvious game agents play, and pretty much considered a favorite fake talking point of US sports media, because they know people believe it and it is easy click bait.

Fact is, there are laws against not paying players, and they are very heavily enforced.

People act like it is the 1800s or something - this is the European commission laws, which have much, much stricter labor laws than Australia or USA.

Rabbit41, it goes on a fair bit more than you actually realise. You only ever hear about the rare times players/agents go on with it legally on most occasions they just quickly move on to the next gig. Too costly and time consuming to take legal action. It's notorious in South America and smaller Euro leagues.

Despite his history of bouncing around I've got no doubt something similar happened with Randle to only last 5 games in Turkey this time around. Plus the supposed contract mentioned by Olgun (via his agent) of 2 years for almost US $1 million net was too unbelievable for a Div 2 team in Turkey.

very very very strongly suggested today that Randle was sacked in Turkey.

https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Jerome-Randle/Summary/4710#International

he didn't perform well in Turkey.