Anonymous
Years ago
http://basketball.net.au/five-athletes-to-graduate-from-basketball-australias-centre-of-excellence/
Whos left at coe now? Boys/girls.
Anyone know who are the new scholarship holders?
From what I can gather the current girls scholarship holders are;
S. Heal 9/01 165
A Hannan 3/01 190
I. Palmer 2/01 175
E. Hollingsworth 2/01 188
K. King-Hawea
Last-tear Poa 11/01 177
I. Bourne 11/00 188
?T. Mole? 6/99 185
8 If Mole is still there, of which 5 are from 2001/02 - eligible for the next world U17's
A. Emma-Nnopu would be a must along with Anstey and Johnson. Others??
From what I can gather the current boys COE scholarship holders are;
A. Krause 10/00 192
S. Froling 2/00 211
K. Bowen 10/00 202
I. Lee 4/00 182
C. Beard 5/00 202
C. Dalton 5/00 206
J. Kunen 10/00 202
?D. Grida? 4/98 197
?O. Hulland? 9/99 211 Hawaii 2018
?M. Johns? 5/99 203
?A. Mudronja? 9/99 194
11 If Grida, Hulland, Johns, Mudronja don't graduate very soon,
7 if they do Graduate, of which 0 are from 2001/02 - eligible for the next world U17's this is very poor planning...
From what I can gather the current boys NBA Academy scholarship holders are;
A. Ducas 12/00 193
A. Garang 9/00 205
T. Wigness 3/02 179
H. Clarke 8/01 196
w. Swaka 6/01 195
5 in total, 3 are from 2001/02 - eligible for the next world U17's
Capetola, Madden, Rantall, Jackson, Tsapatollis would be a must along with more PF-C's. Others??
2017 u16 Asia/2018 u17 World Cup
Girls(5)
PG S.Heal 01 5'6
CG LT.Poa 01 5'10
SG I.Palmer 01 5'10
PF E.Hollingsworth 01 6'2
C A.Hannan 01 6'4
Boys
2018 u18 Asia/2019 u19 World Cup
Girls(2)
SG/SF K.King-Hawea 00 5'11
PF I.Bourne 00 6'2
Boys(7)
PG I.Lee 00 6'2
SG/SF A.Krause 00 6'4
CF J.Kunen 00 6'7
CF C.Beard 00 6'7
PF K.Bowen 00 6'8
PF/C C.Dalton 00 6'9
PF/C S.Froling 00 6'11
5 girls/boys spots available
With the 02s getting another u19 shot in 4 years time, I'd like to see only 01s chosen.
from BA article - http://basketball.net.au/returning-coe-athletes-named-for-2018-womens-program/
2018 CoE Returning Athletes:
Taylor Mole - Tasmania
Isabelle Bourne – Australian Capital Territory
Kobe King-Hawea – Victoria
Eliza Hollingsworth – Victoria
Ashlee Hannan - Queensland
Isabel Palmer – New South Wales
Shyla Heal – New South Wales
Stay tuned in the coming days for the release of the new scholarship holders for the women's CoE program in 2018 as well as announcements on the men's program.
So hard to even gauge selections as performances at National Championships aren't a big consideration anymore
Women's program reached a new low, at least one has been turned out for alcohol related problems
I wonder if anyone stood out at the recent ADC?
Looks like they need another pg, another guard, a couple of sfs and another post player.
Based on form at the u16 Asia champs, you'd think Amoore and Nnopu will be 2 of them.
Anstey who was injured? and potter maybe?
they shouldnt take any from 00.
That group is so stacked, they are going to have a tough time choosing u18/u19 players for Asia/worlds.
Any logic in retaining grida 98', Mudronja 99' and Mole 99'?
Doesn't make much sense if youre trying to develop players for junior national teams.
Oh, and Hulland 99'
4 players that are no longer eligible for junior nationals teams.
Anon
Years ago
North Adelaide boy '03 born will make his way there by next year i think.
It's a very overrated program for both girls and boys
Few if any who have attended have set the basketball world on fire, only advantagethey get is a guarantee into a national team
491, not sure they are all that concerned about junior national teams. They want olympic medals.
The 2018 Centre of Excellence Men's Class:
Kyle Bowen (Western Australia)
Callum Dalton (Queensland)
Alex Ducas (Western Australia)
Samson Froling (Queensland)
Hunter Goodrick (New South Wales)
Daniel Grida (Western Australia)
Owen Hulland (South Australia)
Aiden Krause (Queensland)
Josh Kunen (Victoria)
Isaiah Lee (New South Wales)
Alex Mudronja (South Australia)
Kody Stattmann (Queensland)
The 2018 NBA Global Academy Class:
Hunter Clarke (Tasmania/USA)
Anyang Garang (South Australia)
Wani Swaka Lo Buluk (Western Australia)
Kane Waters (Western Australia)
Tamuri Wigness (Queensland)
The 2018 Centre of Excellence Women's Class:
Isabelle Bourne (ACT)
Elissa Brett (South Australia)
Suzi-Rose Deegan (Western Australia)
Agnes Emma-Nnopu (Victoria)
Ashlee Hannan (Queensland)
Shyla Heal (New South Wales)
Eliza Hollingsworth (Victoria)
Adelaide Fuller (Queensland)
Kobe King-Hawea (Victoria)- scholarship provided by NBA Global Academy.
Taylor Mole (Tasmania)
Isabel Palmer (New South Wales)
Gemma Potter (Victoria)
Kelsey Rees (South Australia)
^ Yes, what are they doing? Is there a single COE boy eligible for u17 worlds next year? I know 4 of the Global Academy boys are but that seems like an exceptionally old cohort in the boys. No one from the team that won the most recent u18 National championship is a bit disappointing, too.
Still kids from 98'.
00 kids who just came in have no chance of making Aus teams.
King hawea-sponsored by global academy.
Guess that means she's playing for nz?
Should be 27 kids 01-02-03.
Only 13 out of 28.
What's going on with Vic metro? Would this be a first when there are ZERO Vic metro boys in the program?
Anon
Years ago
You must remember that the announced list is also people have ACCEPTED the scholarships. Some may not want to attend COE and would prefer to perfect their game elsewhere. Some may want to focus on academics at their chosen school, lots of reasons.
That's true, but if there are that many of our best kids turning down the COE, the COE needs to reevaluate what they're doing. If they can't lure the kids who are genuinely most likely to be Boomers and Opals in the future, what purpose do they serve? Turns into a pretty significant expenditure to develop some B teams.
Anonymous
Years ago
Time they did away with the whole "live in" program and instead put resources into developing a larger pool across the country, take those athletes who show potential into short term camps throughout the year, this allows them to be exposed to bigger older stronger opponents and more competitive games than they get simply being encased at the institute with the same ten players al, the time.
This is what these institute athletes lack when they eventually leave.
In addition as they are still young they can at least have parental guidance and access to better education.
If they are going to go on to be elite athletes they will do so with or without the CofE
Anon
Years ago
Agree with above. Need multiple campuses across country
Should follow the ntc model in soccer.
Eg
Vjbl u14, u16, u18, u20
U12 vic side play in u14vjbl
U14 vic side play in u16vjbl
U16 vic side play in u18vjbl
U18 vic side play in u20vjbl
Same with all the states
Wabl
District Sa
Tas
Waratah metro/country
Bqjbc
Qnjbc
?
Years ago
doesn't an individual state's high performance program cover this ? The COE is the next step up assembling the best athletes.
?
Years ago
you won't get COE level of athletes at any depth in numbers at a state level
ANON
Years ago
Where do you think they get them from in the first place lol
If you chose the best 12-15 within the state for each age group.
Best 11/12y.o in u14 state league
Best 13/14y.o in u16 state league
Best 15/16y.o in u18 state league
Best 17/18y.o in senior division
Each age group gets HP training every week. (this is not the same as nitp)
Fnsw institute do it this way.
13G compete in u14 npl
14G compete in u15 npl
15G compete in u17 npl
16G compete in womens reserves
17G compete in women's 1sts
Majority of players end up as u17, u20 or senior matildas or w league professionals.
Each state has something similar but don't field a team in every age group.
?
Years ago
#229 - if you think every state has 10-15 COE level athletes think again
The whole point is to build top quality athletes.
Notice how they keep leaving to go back home?
ANON
Years ago
Every state has more than one though don't they
, plus you have multiple positions to fill
Better to be able to
Develop more than simply focus on a handful
The logistics of this don't work, it's that simple. Take the 10 best u14 players in VJBL and play them as a Vic HP side in u16 VC. Fine. But they can't simultaneously play in that HP team in u16 and also meet their club commitments in u14s. So now the u14 competition is watered down. And so on through every age group.
The only place it arguably is viable is with u18/20 athletes who could simultaneously play seniors. But by then if they are good enough, they should be able to do so through their junior club so the primary benefit would be in having them play together. The value of that is questionable, IMO, compared to fighting for minutes in an established senior team.
I agree with the notion that decentralising the COE somewhat would be preferable if it created a broader base of athletes in consideration for Aus junior sides. But this suggestion doesn't work.
They don't play for a club team if they are apart of 'VIC HP'
I disagree that it would be watered down. You have 4+ divisions within each age group now and an increase in basketball registrations every year. You also have clubs that are rapidly expanding in areas of population growth. Teams in the south east like Casey etc and new teams yet to come on board in the north.
Anonymous
Years ago
Being part of HP doesn't stop them playing rep ball, infact they must play rep ball, it may when they get to the UN18 allow them to not play fir a domestic club simply because of time restraints s, but it doesn’t prevent them .
NikoRustov79
Years ago
They should abolish the whole COE & just leverage the nba academy & make that larger. So many of these coe kids leave & cant handle the athleticism of international ball. get more foreigners to the institute & develop them in an international environment - while being part paid by the COE
#343, taking the ten best kids out of VC will absolutely dilute the quality of the competition. I know there are a lot of divisions and registrations are increasing, but that doesn't mean that the standard at the very top is the same whether you include the best team or not. If you isolate it to VC, at a very minimum, you're talking about the equivalent of removing the best team in the competition and replacing it with the worst. And that fails to consider the inappropriateness of the proposal for every other state, where the depth of talent is even less. It's conceptually fine, but unless they rescheduled it so, for example, u12s and u16s played on one day and u14s and u18s played on another day, it is practically unsound.
#348, being part of HP doesn't currently preclude kids playing rep, but under the proposal being discussed - namely that a state HP side of kids in one age group should be entered into the rep competition in the age group above - it would.
starting a best of age team late on isn't the best way to develop kids.
Has to be from the very beginning of there rep playing journey.
U12 to u18..
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