Jack good write ups as always.
Think NZ at home might scrape by in a close low scoring affair.
Hope I am wrong.

Sosa Vs Cotton.

Or more like Sosa Vs Martin.

injuries are sport Anon.
Nz have beaten Perth with both players healthy and have 3 peated in that same timeframe which your so called best dynasty has yet to do

The Wildcats were clearly the better team in 2013. 2012 could've gone either way.

2011 the Wildcats came within a ridiculous Kirk Penney performance and Braswell fluking a couple of terrible threes of sweeping the Breakers even without Redhage.

Mystro, the Breakers have never won a playoff series against a healthy Wildcats roster. Redhage was out in 2011, Martin played through a serious injury in 2012, Martin was out with the achilles tear in 2013. Perth won in 2016.

Abercrombie was also hobbled in 2012, though, so that probably evens out.

Can't count tall black team with a couple imports as beating Perth. Still think Perth would've got one. Done now, considering how close the competition is now compared back then and haven't missed the play offs where nz has.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda. The results are in the books.

Looking forward to this game though. Two in-form teams going at it, with the #1 spot up for grabs.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda. The results are in the books.

Exactly, we can't change what happened, we all know that part. When we lost Martin in the semi-finals and we got robbo, you knew we had no hope.

If they rock up with the mind set against cairns, then no chance. We are due for a win in New Zealand. Looking forward to it.

"I'm bothered just by the fact that we never got to see those two teams at full strength in a playoff series, never mind the results."

Wasn't their last GF with a full squad both ways?

Other than the Breakers unhappy that someone did someone that wasn't his own wife, I don't recall any injuries.

Oops sorry KR...I think Nate was injured with a bad back.

They were very different teams by 2016 though. Wilkinson, Boucher and Bruton all gone from NZ, Perth running with a full import quota and a Shawn Redhage well past his prime, different coaches...

"The Wildcats were clearly the better team in 2013."

NZ went 28-4 that season, and one of those losses was a dead rubber in the last game of the regular season in Perth. Their meeting before that the Breakers won by 17 in Auckland.

So while the Wildcats' two big early-season wins showed it would have been another very even GF if Martin had played, to suggest the Wildcats were clearly the better team is some very selective memory!

NZ went 28-4 that season, and one of those losses was a dead rubber in the last game of the regular season in Perth. Their meeting before that the Breakers won by 17 in Auckland.

So while the Wildcats' two big early-season wins showed it would have been another very even GF if Martin had played, to suggest the Wildcats were clearly the better team is some very selective memory!

NZ won 21 of their last 22 games that season, Perth won 11 of their last 15. In this instance, your memory has failed you Kobz.

Perth weren't far behind NZ that season, and might have beaten them full strength in the GF, but they weren't clearly better.

The reality is NZ own a 3-1 lead in playoff series over the Wildcats and a 7-4 lead in playoff games.

NZ won 21 of their last 22 games that season, Perth won 11 of their last 15. In this instance, your memory has failed you Kobz.

MOV doesn't win you titles, wins do.

Perth lost to more than half their opponents that season (NZ, Cairns, Adelaide & Illawarra), three of them twice. NZ lost to just two teams.

Your claim that Perth was "clearly better" is off the mark, but a quite reasonable position is that although NZ won more games than Perth, they were very evenly matched.

Have to tip Auckland at home.

MOV doesn't win you titles, wins do.

And if you were to play that series over again several times the result would swing the other way more often than not.

Statistically speaking, Perth were strong favourites going into that series.

In 2012-13 regular season, Perth's high average margin of victory was fueled by their performances at home. In turn that was fueled by favourable foul calling at home games.

Perth were 13-1 at home, with a +16.6 PPG average margin over their opponents. They were 9-5 playing away, with a +5.5 PPG average margin. Perth scored 4.4 fewer points per game at home than away and had 5.1 fewer fouls per game called on them at home than away (16.5FPG at home and 21.6 FPG away.

That season was the peak of the Perth home advantage in terms of fouls called at home vs away. No-one else had a foul disparity even close to Perth's (the rest of the league averaged only 1.0 fewer fouls per game at home than away). In fact, only Wollongong were called for fewer fouls at home than Perth and yet Perth was called for more fouls in away games than every other team.

Based on the posts in this thread, some people will see that as saying the refs screwed Perth away from home and so clearly should have won the title. Others will say Perth looked better than they were because the refs screwed other teams in Perth home games. I lean towards the latter view. Perth were very good that season but the margin of victory stat flatters them because of favourable reffing in home games.

currently the only kiwi on the team that wasnt developed by the Breakers academy is Kirk Penney.

Melbourne & Sydney's populations exceed the population of NZ yet how many locals play for them and how many titles have they won in the last 10 years?

Give credit where credit is due, NZ is a great organization just like Perth and those 3peat teams deserve to be mentioned up there with the best teams in NBL history.

Vukona played that first title year from memory on one leg and yes Abercrombie dealt with that horrible ankle injury through that 3peat period as well so Perth weren't the only team to deal with injuries.

The Cat's defence will stifle any team. I think this is an away game that the wildcats have planned to win.... To show they can win away.

Beware or be square as the saying goes.

Interesting that we talk about this historic rivalry, when the regular season records throughout that 3 year period were:

NZ 67-17.
Perth 57-27.

And NZ won 3 titles, Perth 0 from 2 grand finals.

Yes Perth had injuries, and it's a shame we didn't see as many full strength battles as we would've liked. But the reality is we didn't.

Another reality is that this was a weak era in NBL history. That's the whole reason we remember this rivalry- because the rest of the league was so poor, they didn't have much competition.

When have Perth flown across for this game, does anyone know?

Leaving 9.20am via Sydney then get to Auckland just before midnight New Zealand time.

Thank you, I'm guessing that's today and not yesterday?

https://thewest.com.au/sport/basketball/perth-wildcats-take-smash-and-grab-approach-to-new-zealand-trip-ng-b88652728z

Perth trying to beat the time differential by spending as little as time as possible in NZ. They will land 20 hours before tip off.

https://thewest.com.au/sport/basketball/perth-wildcats-take-smash-and-grab-approach-to-new-zealand-trip-ng-b88652728z

Perth trying to beat the time differential by spending as little as time as possible in NZ. They will land 20 hours before tip off.

If staying keyed up and on Perth time sucessfully circumvents travel fatigue I wonder if fatigue will catch up and hit them more come Sunday. It will be interesting how it all pans out.

"Timezone Tussle."

I like it. But really, I reckon there are only 4 potential matchups without Timezone differentials:
Cairns vs Brisbane
Kings vs Hawks
United vs Hawks
United vs Kings

If we wanted a league without games across time zones, we could support the CBA or other league in China.

China's communist govt declared a single time zone following wwII and the Chinese civil war. (Much the same as the addition of the USA’s Alaskan time zone occurred with the demise of Russia and its decision to sell Alaska for revenue.) It’s based on Beijing time. Geographically, China “should” be divided into 5 time zones. It is likely about state centralised control and the capacity to communicate with all citizens more easily and therefore exert centralised control. This results in sun rises as late as 10 am and sun setting as late as 10 pm (approximately). There are, however, some regions with 2 time zones operating in tandem. China refers to its time zone as Beijing Standard time, but it is internationally known as China Standard Time (CST). China does not have Dylight Saving Time.

Anyone else have any fun facts about Chinese time zone/s?

For a domestic competition you have to fly international airport is a bit different, not fair on both teams. Breakers play 11.30pm say a Friday night tip off, no disrespect to New Zealand, they have a national competition.

I used to like the "Sunshine Swing" as well when the NBL had teams in Cairns and Townsville.

Possible NBL and cartographic fun fact:

Is the NBL the only national basketball comp that's only ever represented cities/ territories/ counties with a seaside?

I base this conjecture/ question on all the old school suburban clubs (St Kilda, Coburg, Glenelg etc being in cities on the coast.

Before you yell “Canberra”, if we accept that Canberra represented the ACT, then the Cannons had a seaside/coastline rep role. Under the articles or agreements of Federation, the nation’s capital had to have “access to the sea”. Consequently, when the ACT was established, NSW donated the ACT land around the city of Canberra and... Jarvis Bay on the south coast (near Nowra).

It used to be possible to run from NSW into the ACT at HMAS Creswell on the beaches. You just had to wave at the guard tower as you ran bac out. Or maybe you didn’t have to wave, but they always waved back to me. I doubt you could do that now. Jarvis Bay is prob also the coolest posting for a Fed police officer or ACT teacher.

The navy used to park the HMAS Melbourne off Jervis Bay. Pilots would train take off and landing between the carrier and HMAS Albatross. There is also a NZ connection for our Kiwi friends. When the Australian defence force acquired their FA18 Hornets, there were a few jobs they couldn’t do. They had sold the Skyhawks to the Royal NZ Air Force. They then had to pay the Kiwis to operate the old birds from Albatross. The Kiwi ground crews were pretty cool though.

Jervis Bay is also the only location in Australia seriously considered as a site for a nuclear power station. Only because it’s on commonwealth land I think.

So... any other National league with only coastal teams???

Wow, game hasn't even started and 83 comments already..

Anon "weird rant"

“Possible NBL and cartographic fun fact:

Is the NBL the only national basketball comp that's only ever represented cities/ territories/ counties with a seaside?

I base this conjecture/ question on all the old school suburban clubs (St Kilda, Coburg, Glenelg etc being in cities on the coast.”

Not sure where “possible”, “conjecture/question” and “if we accept” became a “rant”, weird or otherwise. It was speculation and food for thought. You obviously think differently. This just demonstrates the wide variety of human experience represented by the forum.

Ricky

Timezones and related geographical banter obviously adds interest to basketball.

I wanna see a giant globe spinning and orbiting through the crowd for half time entertainment.

Interesting how Tokoto play's on the road? It's time I think to put Cooke in the five, at least we got Angus as back up.

You pay imports for a reason, if they don't perform they go home.

Cooke hasn't earnt a starting spot yet.
He will get his chance with Knight gone, the rest is up to him

Lemanis is easily the least-talented coach to win an NBL three-peat and finish in the top four at the Olympics.

Lemanis is also easily the most-talented coach to win an NBL three-peat and finish in the top four at the Olympics.

Personally I think he's the coach who has won a 3peat in the NBL NBL and coached the Boomers to top 4 in the Olympics because he adjusts so well to different time zones.

I think the Boomers need a specialist time zone coach for 2020.

"Another reality is that this was a weak era in NBL history. That's the whole reason we remember this rivalry- because the rest of the league was so poor, they didn't have much competition."

They had to beat a loaded Gold Coast team that would be one of the best teams in the NBL in any year. The Townsville team in 2012 was also very strong.

The reality is these two teams were at the top when the league was low and rebuilding and they're at the top now it's as strong as it's ever been.

"The reality is these two teams were at the top when the league was low and rebuilding and they're at the top now it's as strong as it's ever been."

NZ won't be at the top for very long. They've won a bunch of games in the dying seconds. Let's see if they're still on top by Christmas.

Secondly, the team Perth has now is stronger than their team from back then.

Yes- those two teams were strong then. I'm not saying *they* were weak. I'm saying, back then we all waited all year for the inevitable Perth vs NZ GF. There were only two good teams. There was one good rivalry in the competition because there were 2 good teams. Now there are 4 or 5.

Bottom line- Whoeever wins it this year will have to beat 3 or 4 other strong teams, not ONE other strong team. To me, that makes it a more valuable title.

I just checked the stats to confirm if my memory was correct

In 2011-12- Perth and NZ were the top 2 on the ladder for the entire season. Every single round. Perth ended up 2 games clear of 3rd ranked team. (19-9 to 17-11).

They both won their semi final series 2-1 but smashed the third game by 20 points. NZ lost game 1 in NZ but then proceeded to win games 2 and 3 by double digits. Perth won game 1 by 15, then lost by 2, then won by 20 or so.

In 2012-13 They finished first and second, Perth in second was NINE games clear of third position (22-6 to 13-15). Perth and NZ dominated their semi series, both winning 2-0 with big victories.

So that confirms my memory- it was a boring competition back then. We all knew who would be meeting in the GF.

You can't say the same now though. United is currently $3.10 favourites with the bookies but I can’t even understand why, when Perth has won 3 of the last 4 and retains the same system, coach and most of last year’s team. Sydney and Adelaide, meanwhile, have two of the most talented rosters ever seen in the NBL. NZ has most of the Tall Blacks plus a stud import in Sosa...…

"I'm saying, back then we all waited all year for the inevitable Perth vs NZ GF. There were only two good teams."

And I'm saying Gold Coast was a very strong team - Petrie, Worthington, Hudson, Hoare, Harvey, Goulding, Deleon, Cadee, Gibson and coached by Wright - they had good veterans and good youngsters off the bench, they just weren't quite as good as NZ and Perth.

In their final year they were 4-6 against those two teams but couldn't get over the Wildcats in G3 of the SFs in Perth.

Better than that these two teams have won 8 of the last 8 titles!

2010 - Perth
2011 - NZ
2012 - NZ
2013 - NZ
2014 - Perth
2015 - NZ
2016 - Perth
2017 - Perth

Paul, I don't buy that.

Some good names, yes, but Goulding and Cadee were very young then. Nowhere near the level they are today. Hoare was about 37 and on his last legs.

And they got beaten 85-70 and 88-67 in 2 of the 3 semi finals games. Winning game 2 72-70.

My recollection is Perth and NZ were head and shoulders 1 and 2 for 2 seasons. Certainly stats support my memory here.

(and if memory serves me correctly, Perth would've been a clear top 2 team in 2011 as well, but injuries got the better of them). The NBL just wasn't anywhere near as deep and talented then. Nowhere near it.

"My recollection is Perth and NZ were head and shoulders 1 and 2 for 2 seasons. Certainly stats support my memory here."

Perth was only 3-3 against Gold Coast that season and only won two more games than them in the regular season. They were two evenly matched teams, with Perth a little better when it counted.

Two years earlier, when the Wildcats won the title, GC beat them 3-1 in the regular season but got swept by them in the playoffs.

Gold Coast's issue wasn't so much talent, it was more the same issue Joey Wright's teams often encounter in the playoffs as opposed to H&A.

Fair enough, sounds like you got me there Paul. Perhaps GC were right in the mix and it was unfair or incorrect to say Perth and NZ were head and shoulders 1 and 2.

Still- it's only one team. My broader point was that the NBL was quite weak, so Perth and NZ rivalry was a little overblown in our memories as a result of them being two big fishes in a relatively small pond compared to the great ocean of talent we now enjoy.

"I love how LV assumes it will be tight at the end of the season - no one knows yet, yet this assumption of his is the crux of his argument. Not buying it."

It's not so much "tight" or now. it's about depth of talent.

It wasn't tight at the end of last season. Perth won easily in the end. But you had Adelaide capitulating, Melbourne just missing the finals after adding Casper late and then losing 4 games against Perth by 2 or 3 points. It was a topsy turvy season where talented teams were everywhere and it was a ride and a half.

As I said, in 2012 NZ and Perth were 1 and 2 EVERY SINGLE WEEK of the season. And in 2013 they finished 24-4 and 22-6, compared to the third ranked team having a losing record of 13-15. The competition is more hard fought and much stronger as a result of marquee player changes, soft salary cap, etc.

I'm not trying to discredit Perth and NZ- I'm discrediting the rivalry. If we had another strong team or two, there's every chance they wouldn't have fought in 2 straight GF's.

Whereas if, say, Perth meet Illawarra again this year, that will be a much more impressive rivalry in my mind, not because of he bevo connection but because both teams will have had to face more adversity in the form of stronger opponents, to get to a second straight GF matchup.

Melbourne isn't even my title tip. Perth is. I've made that very clear by saying many times that Perth deserves favouritism.

Whoever wins this year- and United and Perth both stand a strong chance, as does Adelaide, with Sydney, NZ and Illawarra my smokies- it will be a more impressive title in my mind than any of the titles from 2010 to 2014. Possibly the most impressive ever, since we have the strongest league I can remember right now.

"Perth and NZ rivalry was a little overblown in our memories as a result of them being two big fishes in a relatively small pond compared to the great ocean of talent we now enjoy."

In this great ocean you speak of, 3 of the last 4 grand finalists have been NZ and Perth! They will likely both be in the top 4 again this year.

Time to give some credit where credit is due. While the league has improved from good to great by NBL standards, these two clubs have continued with two of the best dynasties the league has seen.

We'll see, Paul.

It's early days, but if NZ's roster remains as it is, I can't see them beating Perth, Adelaide or Melbourne come crunch time.

"It's early days, but if NZ's roster remains as it is, I can't see them beating Perth, Adelaide or Melbourne come crunch time."

It's no surprise to see a Melbourne fan think your success is determined by your roster, and not how it functions together. JVG comes from the same school.

That thinking led LV to say Illawarra were clearly the worst team in the league last year and Sydney were the best then daylight.

Hmmm...I'm pretty sure you're making things up there Paul! Don't think I ever said that about Illawarra.

I certainly respect teams over individuals- that's why I was riding Cairns all the way last year. Right from the beginning when the bookies had them winning 8 games for the season.

I never said United would dominate this season. Let me say this again: Perth is my title tip and I cannot, for the life of me, work out why United are favourites ahead of them. Maybe it's because everybody else is thinking how you claim I think, Paul ;-)

(Well, actually, I did say it would be a catastrophe if United missed the GF, but I no longer think that, since Adelaide have upgraded from a 33 year old journeyman Wiggins to Josh Childress).

United is still my tip for runner up though. But they've actually played like it so far (except the NZ game and parts of the Brisbane game).

"Hmmm...I'm pretty sure you're making things up there Paul! Don't think I ever said that about Illawarra."

I guarantee that you did! It was in November when they were 2-5 or around that mark.

I go back to what I said at the same time, no one can be championship favourites until they beat Perth or NZ in the playoffs.

Only Cairns in 2015 have achieved that feat in the past eight years! Even then, after beating Perth, they still had NZ standing in front of them the poor buggers!

I may have said that out of frustration cos, along with Cairns I also loaded up on Illawarra pre season and then was frustrated when they were struggling (after a delightful early win against Adelaide).

But Illawarra came good in the end.

If I remember correctly the Illawarra bets were the only ones I actually cashed out at a loss. Even Sydney I cashed out for a win cos I made the "daylight" comment when they were about $4 and then cashed them out when they got to about $2.70.

Not betting this season tho. Too time consuming!

Next season I reckon we go for a hoops.com.au tipping comp. Anonymous blowhards can pick a username and then take egg on their face when I defeat them in tipping!

"I go back to what I said at the same time, no one can be championship favourites until they beat Perth or NZ in the playoffs."

I predict that this record remains intact this year.

Perth will win the title. NZ will finish 5th.

I'm never shy of making a bold prediction. So there you go. Hopefully not my next "daylight" moment :-)

"With your track record you'd be at the bottom.

and if you were making money you wouldn't be using "time consuming" excuses."

From memory I made somewhere between $50 and $100 last season- after spending hours and hours reviewing odds and updating my betting spreadsheet- not worth it when you have a good job and a great family to spend time on.

Happy to do tipping if someone sets it up tho

".. while secretly hoping Melb Utd win it, so then you can woof about it and how good the league is this season so their title trumps anything the PER or NZB dynasties have done. Yeah, we get you."

Of course I hope UTD wins it, but whoever wins it, I'll give credit where it's due

The NBL is more talented than ever, so whoever wins it will have the most impressive title ever

"Well that's on you - wasting hours for a few dollars? Bet some real coin then if you think you're that good at it."

I did bet real coin- but in percentage terms, even if you bet $10,000, if you make 5% it's only $500.

Not worth it.

But if that's your thing- go for it.

It's early days, but based on what we've seen so far:

- Perth looks just as good as last year. Haven't skipped a beat and Tokoto is a stud.

- Melbourne has a stacked roster and in 5 out of 7 games so far, they've looked every bit as good as many people have declared them already

- Adelaide has Wright at the helm and the most talented team he's had at his disposal since the 2007 Bullets. Yet to perform consistently but history suggests they'll get it together.

- NZ is playing great basketball, no reason to think they won't continue to do so.

You would have to suggest there's a fairly strong probability that we'll continue to see some great basketball this year.

Should have your own thread lv

$3.67 for Perth and Melbourne to get up today.

"
- The championship side from the previous season look just as good. Plus they tend to add yet another stud import."

How many teams have swept a championship 3-0 and then kept pretty much their entire roster?

(Knight now gone but will no doubt be replaced eventually by someone good like Steindl)

"There is a team with a stacked roster and their play looks good"

How many teams in NBL history have been as stacked as United this year?

"A team has had Wright at the helm in the NBL now for the past 15 of 16 seasons"

In how many of those seasons did he have a team as talented as this one?

Anyone having issues with nbl.com.au?

Working fine on the app

Cotton missed and-1, breakers go on 9-0 run

Stop shooting threes!!!!

Who'd want to be a rebounder at Spark Arena. These rings are rock hard!

Getting tired of Cotton throwing the legs out and getting the calls.

NBL referees clearly have their faults, but are usually better than to fall for those cheap tricks that imports come up with. Quite disappointing

Awesome block by Cooke

Great game so far

10 min quarters are too quick..

Kudos to the refs for not calling anything in that Cotton one-on-five action late in the quarter. I was almost certain they'd call something when he flopped to the ground once he knew he'd lost control of possession

That unsportsmanlike on Vukona was a disgraceful call.

All the no calls when cotton was getting checked is a joke. Clearly fouled multiple times. Refs starting to become a factor, nz actually playing the game bettwr for how they are calling it though

The USF was a shocker but overall I reckon they've done ok at "letting them play"

I hope manu thinks that was an offensive foul on Penney, or is it only cotton feet?

No call on cotton layup a disgrace, airborne contact from behind and nothing

Nah I ain't one-eyed. I hate Perth with both eyes

But seriously, yeah Penney kicks out too. Not a fan

Would need to see the replay, but Cotton didn't even attempted to shoot it while milking for the foul, so I'm glad it wasn't called.

Looks to me like a lot of great D being played on Cotton.

Angush is was a foul. You can not contact a player from that angle.

Silly 4th, Damo

For those idiots that complain about the "Perth home cooking " at Perth arena, I hope you're watching this game

NZ too good today. Didn't let us get loose. Very disciplined performance.

@ Red74, we are - good to see how Perth look without that advantage!

Nz have won it on the boards, but cats definitely deserved a few more trips to the free throw line in the last quarter. It's amazing that the refs are so quick to call a hands foul on a double team but happy to let contact go when the cats attacked the basket hard in the final quarter, you can see the frustration in the cats players.

Angush - and we will see how the sheep shaggers go without theirs.

But credit to nz, they played much better, tokoto started hot then disappeared for two quarters and cotton seems afraid of contact!

Angush the implication was that nz is getting an advantage so in fact you are seeing the cats at a disadvantage rather than an advantage, preferable to many on this forum I am sure, but not what fans of the sport want to see. Should have been a closer game, cats deserved as free more trips to the line when it was a 6pt game.

Cats were far from bad. Just didn't cash in on the opportunities we created as efficiently as we usually do.

Perth need another big. Cooke doesn't cover the offensive input of Matty knight.

Couple trips to the line. 2 posession game... credit Nz, cats shouldn't have gotten themselves in such a hole. Even if it appeared they drew a few short straws trying to get out of it. If i am cotton I am seeking a few explanations, guy is a star, officiated like he is a scrub

Agree Perth bench unit looses a lot without knight

^^^ Yeah Coocke jr is really average

NBL Website has the scores 92-84, Wildcats Twitter saying 88-84. Which ones right?

Not good signs seeing Cooke Jr only playing 11:59. I was expecting him to play at least 20 now that Knight has gone. Didn't think he played bad but you want your import playing a lot more minutes and having an impact on games.

88-84 was the final score.
40 points from the bench is huge for the Breakers. Kudos to Ili, Penney, Lowe and Delaney for keeping the scoreboard ticking over.
Sunday is going to be an uphill battle, the bench depth will help the fatigue but the Cats will have their claws out for revenge.

Some nice comments from Henare and Penney in the post game interview about Matty Knight and his character and career.

The next Timezone Tussle should be taken to a country centre, Eucla:
Eucla

Despite daft time zone switches taking place all over the world, Australia arguably hosts the titan of the genre. Eucla is the first town you hit on the Nullarbor after crossing the border from South Australia. Logic would dictate it follows the same times as the rest of Western Australia, but no - it has its own absurd 45 minute offset. So while the vast bulk of WA is at UTC+8, Eucla is at UTC+45. This makes the time difference between Eucla and South Australia either 45 minutes or one hour and 45 minutes, depending on whether South Australia is observing daylight savings. Drivers are forgiven for getting screamingly confused.



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That'd really confuse those single zone cross-Tasman cousins

Above was cut n paste from the website listed:

"UTC +45"

Can't be right, that’d be 37 hrs behind the rest of West Oz.

They must mean UTC +7:15, ie 45 min earlier than WA time.

See how much better hoops is than a travel website. Very edumacational.

Cooke failed IMO.
Had a chance to step up and didn't.
Get Dunigan or someone similar oh and sign Steindl.
Hire 1 rebound in 10 mins why bother he should retire too.

Cooke isn't the reason the cats lost.

But with Knight gone... I don’t think he’s going to cut it

Sorry UseTaHoop, 1981 champions were Launceston. That's on a river but too far from Bass Strait to be called coastal. Maybe they're the exception that proves the rule!

PeterJohn

Damn.

Speculation was futile.

Forgot about them. The NBL really has had a lot of teams though.

Makes sense that Tasmania would have 2 Historical teams to go with the dual crania (is that the right plural???? Like stadia/ stadium).

PeterJohn

I salute your dedication to NBL history, geography and cartography.

Cooke just needs to hold on to his rebounds a bit better instead of fumbling or trying to pass straight away when coming down.. a couple of silly turnovers from that.

Just settle it down.

Needs minutes!