I love it baby!

He's a smart guy and will have a couple months to learn the ways.

He'll surprise a few this year

Joyce too, apparently. I might actually miss some games this season.

I'd love to see them bring back names like Peter Ensel, Stephen Quartermain, Dean Templeten, Bill Woods etc

Probably the only positive in Randle not coming back, no more ANT MAN being screamed into the mic.

If this is true, it means a lot of muting the broadcast for me. Really don't enjoy his commentary.

Homicide is woeful. UGH.

Joyce and Barfino also suck.

Fingers crossed for some more Gelmi sideline reporting though.

I can deal with Carfino because I am so used to him but Joyce and Homicide? No thanks. Not calling the game anyway. I think Homicide could be useful maybe talking to fans and sideline celebrities and acting a clown but please, not play-by-play. And Joyce just needs to bugger off.

What about James Harvey? I thought he did a decent job, I know people don't like Brad Rosen but he is knowledgable at least.

Ugh, Homicide? God no, please! Joyce was the opposite of him but still unbearable to listen to... I wish there where radio commentaries that we could switch to...

Agree on Harvs, he was quite good on the games that he got... Carfino was semi-bearable when he was paired with the right partner...

I'll be calling fox for a discount on my monthly bill because I'll be watching half the games.

All the insight of grandpa Simpson after a night on the cough syrup. You could put a giraffe in one of Fox's trademark ill-fitting blue suits and it would have more to offer than Homicide's inane ramblings.

he wears an onion on his belt.

As was the fashion at the time.

In small quantity Homicide could be mildly entertaining I suppose...

Homiccide - OMFG really

Heal - like but will he be there?

Harvey - great but agrees with heal to much

Rosen - love. Can babble but knows the game better than most

Tragargh - love. One liners are gold

Greer - to much united

Carfino - there or not here don't really care

Robbins - flat out awful

Anyone else I miss?

You missed Joyce ;p.

Perhaps Homicide could take the 'roving mic' into the changerooms after the game like Brian Taylor does with AFL

Homicide dialed in at about 8 is fine. I think he dialed it up to about a 12 into bizzaro/annoying in the later games he called, but I don't mind him as an over-enthusiastic colour commentator. He's definitely 'unique'.

Will Hammer be back?

Rucker, Heal, Harvey are all good. Carfino is fine.

Tragardh is too ocker for me. Rosen has improved. Don't like Joyce, Robbins or Homicide.

I'm shocked at how many people think Carfino is fine. He gets so many facts incorrect and bumbles through each game.

Rucker is by far the best. I also liked Ricky Grace in his brief stints last year (or the year before?).

Homicide would be good if he became more professional. The half time interviews would be more interesting.

You can't go bagging out the players like he did previously.

Happy to see how he goes...

That Adelaide-Sydney game a couple of years ago, where the Sixers set the record for the biggest three-quarter-time comeback in 40-minute history, was a brilliant game. I have it on disc, but Homicide was commentating so I've never been able to stomach actually rewatching it.

It seemed like things were improving on the commentary front last season, with Matt Russell and John Casey as the two primary play-by-play guys, rather than Dwayne Russell filling that role as he did the year before.

But Williams and Joyce are easily the worst two commentators since the 80s, back when it was local TV and they were blatant cheerleaders for the home team.

Carfino might be a bit half-baked at times, but I think he's inoffensive, familiar, etc. I'd prefer that over Homicide's unbearable rhetoric and fluff and glory-days Joyce.

I know not everyone likes him, but I do like Casey Frank - he's an example where the attitude/flavour works IMO. It's about the sport. With Homicide, it just feels like it's about him. You want these past players to bring their expertise rather than their ego, and I think Rucker, Heal, Harvey, etc all do that well.

I forgot about Casey Frank. Easily the best colour commentator in the league

Homicide and Joyce will be muted the first time they come on, and I will probably keep watching on mute until I hear they've been sacked.

Give me intelligent level commentators instead of ones who are just there to stroke their own egos.

Bruce Palmer was gold. Most sarcastic commentator ever.

Agree on Casey Frank, he's always enjoyable on the NZ games... He's obviously pro_NZB, but he doesn't have home team blinders on, most of the time...

I like Heal more often than not, but he needs the right partner and to not get into the same old thing... Rucker was great, but it seems like it's an AJ/Lemanis Boomers situation there...

I can't remember the name of the other NZ commentator, but I think he's pretty good too - has improved a lot over the years I've been tuning in to Breakers games.

Andrew Mulligan?

Might be - is he the little (well, next to Frank...) quirky dude on the SKY broadcasts? I didn't catch a lot of NZ games last season, so unless the guy I'm thinking of was replaced last year than that would probably be him.

Actually it might be Dennis Katsanos that you're talking about?

Having Heal and Joyce together would be good. They can both talk about how good they are and pitch for head coaching roles they should have.

Why Heal? Seems genuine about contributing expertise or opinion without being grandiose about it.

The NZ offsiders with Casey are OK too. Maher also.

Bruce Palmer had the famous line likening someone's move to an octopus, right?

Yep, Dennis Katsanos is who I was thinking of. He's improved tons since I first heard him and Casey, and I think the two of them work well together on the Breakers games.

Dennis Katsanos doesn't do commentary, just hosts the pre-game and half-time segments. I think he only did a couple of games last season.

Most of these guys would certainly know what a good commentator is anon. A lot of hoops tragics here that would have watched enough games to qualify as a PhD if there's such a degree.

There maybe slight bias against Heal due to his notoriety. I don't mind his commentaries when doing some play analysis, he knows his stuff.

He can't even research his own career. Loudly proclaimed to have never had a scoreless first half in the NBL despite there being a game where he failed to score until after three quarter time.

I thought Lachy, Shawn and Corey were a good combination last night but doubt it's sustainable.

There was a balance between Redhage's pro-perth bias and Williams's anti-perth sentiment which I didn't mind.

Both former players are also at opposite ends of the charisma spectrum but are also stubborn. It was obvious Lachy enjoyed pressing each of them when they had digs at each other.

So did I actually. Individually they might not be perfect but it worked for me as a combo.

It really was, and worked well because Lachie Reid did a really good job in the middle.

It was better last night because the cartoonish nature of Homicide was balanced out by the vanilla straight down the line commentary of Redhage.

Homicide's half-time interview of fellow New Yorker Conger was hilarious.

Corey Williams is intense, funny and entertaining, what's wrong with that?

The fact that he doesn't know anything and insists on making everything about himself.

You make him sound like Drumph.....

Listen...Conger is from New York...I'm from New York...this is how we do it in New York.

There you go....inside knowledge! Who says he knows nothing!

I explicitly compared Williams to Trump in a different thread last week.

Well, I missed it, must have been busy doing something really impotent.....

pun intended.