Anonymous
Years ago
It is that time of year again. tryouts are just around the corner. Can we get a thread going on the club junior coaching positions that have been announced?
Anonymous
Years ago
Eastern Mavericks:
U10G - Shayde Quintrell
U12G - Donna Georg-Dent
U14G - Shaun Bell
U16G - Scott Rattus
U18G - James Rattus/Mitchell Stanbury
U10B - TBC
U12B - Jo Matthews
U14B - Marc Maddaford
U16B - Mark Billington
U18B - Candice Love
Anonymous
Years ago
Forestville Eagles:
Girls
Under 10's - Amy Bell
Under 12's - Jodie Bell
Under 14's - Rob Wise
Under 16's - Damian Weeks
Under 18's - Lynne Holland
Under 23's - Brian Penna
Boys
Under 10's - Brett Lewis
Under 12's - Kyle Vucetic
Under 14's - Steve Shinnick
Under 16's - Tom Hilbig
Under 18's - Paul Prior
Under 23's - Tim Fitzgerald
Jayden K Smith
Years ago
as an outsider these seem to be the only ones that have been released via the clubs social media. Most should filter through over August. Important decisions for a club to get the right people.
Anonymous
Years ago
This just in:
Southern Tiger:
GIRLS
U10 - Scott Lambert
U12 - Mollie McKendrick
U14 - Matt Clarke
U16 - Ryan Byrne
BOYS
U10 - Michelle Fisher
U12 - Lisa Gill/Kim Jury
U14 - Dean Nyberg
U16 - Ryan Vivian
U18 - Jaydan Fort
same old same old
Years ago
what about other grades ? majority of the comp is grades lower than Div 1. Yet that is just shrugged off by clubs and great fanfare with Div 1 coaches - see how they exist without their lower graded teams.
Anonymous
Years ago
I guess the piont is here that traditionally Division 1 coaches will direct the age group as a squad. The program should filter through to lower grades.
Damn right, who's the under 16 div 6 boys coach at south, been waiting months for that announcement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well Read
Years ago
South Adelaide Basketball Club are excited to announce our Division 1 junior coaching appointments for the 2017/18 season.
GIRLS
U10 - Jason Balfour
U12 – Greg Cunningham
U14 – Jason Balfour
U16 – Kelly Manning
U18 – Jeremy Cotterill
BOYS
U10 – Terry Jones
U12 – Nicholas Wooden
U14 – Jarrod Clarke
U16 – Chad Friend
U18 – Chas McCormick
West Adelaide Basketball Club are pleased to announce our Division One coaching line up for the 2017/18 season.
GIRLS:
U10: Stephen Wormald
U12: Dion Grieger
U14: Amy Grieger
U16: Alan Bell
U18: Morgan Treloar
BOYS:
U10: Dion Grieger
U12: Michaela Lappin
U14: Dennis Jones
U16: Andrew Nowak
U18: Peter Ali
Anonymous
Years ago
North Adelaide Rockets
BOYS
U10 Boys Div 1 Kevin Rock
U12 Boys Div 1 Dallas Quigley
Div 2 Ashley Zauch
Team 3 Brett Aistrope
Team 4 Helen Ollivier
Team 5 Dylan Hall
U14 Boys Div 1 Joel Juncken
Div 2 Under discussion - Awaiting Confirmation
Other Coaches in this age group are Jamie Gower, Tim Ingram, Jason Rinaldi, Harrison Taylor & Gavin Puddy and will be appointed to specific teams once they are known.
U16 Boys Div 1 Adam Todd
Div 2 David Evans
Other Coaches in this age group are Gary Saponari, Jamie Gower, David Durant, Ryan Lloyd, Mitchell Evans & Tracey Gordon and will be appointed to specific teams once they are known.
U18 Boys Div 1 Kane Della-Pia
Div 2 Gary Saponari
Div 3 Courtney Johnston
Other Coaches in this age group are Sam McGough & Rod Herrera and will be appointed to specific teams once they are known.
GIRLS
U10 Girls Rachael Meyer
U12 Girls Div 1 Barry Mansfield
Div 2 Sam Ninnes
Team 3 Karleigh Mailes
U14 Girls Div 1 John Della-Pia
Div 2 Tracie Dawber
Div 3 Montana Willmott & Wayne Bishop
U16 Girls Div 1 Jason Smith
Div 2 Andrew Davis
Div 3 Robert Zoanetti
U18 Girls Div 1 Sean Richards
Div 2 Matt Heinrich
Div 3 Angela Mudri
Grape Vine
Years ago
Sturt/Noorwood will no doubt be respectable.
Centrals/Woodville on the other hand
Anon
Years ago
No guarantee that Norwood or Sturt will bring the goods either IMO
Anon
Years ago
Sorry- but if I wanted to settle for the bad then I would just take my children to the nearest domestic competition/league for less than 10% of the price of district clubs.
Quality coaching
Years ago
It amazes me that clubs still rely on volunteer coaching models.
Pay the coaches and treat the service right, and then we can cut a lot of the bad.
Hanging Round
Years ago
Quality coaching--
Your idea sounds so simple but who pays?
Poor mum and dad already pay heaps for (club)fees which cover rego, noms, court hire etc, plus buy uniforms and associated clothing, then travel between Gawler, Mt Barker and Morphett Vale for the pleasure to pay for the family to watch their child play.
I heard that Sturt junior coaches get paid petrol money. First club in SA to do it I believe.
Quality Coaching
Years ago
Hanging Around and others - Agree that it's difficult to implement, costs of the sport are huge. But there is some simple low hanging fruit, starting with senior programs.
.
Years ago
Good on North + any other clubs for announcing all coaches / assistant coaches or any that are prepared to say - yet to be appointed (not just the emphasis on Div 1, everyone is important. For every Div 1 team there is usually 1-3 full fee paying lower graded teams.
Does Southern have a money tree out there or something????
Southern pay something like $100 per season.
Sturt pay $500 for a year.
Good initiative I think! And all coaches of district teams paid equally.
Hanging Round
Years ago
Low Hanging Fruit??
Went to Bunnings Garden area on weekend
and they said that they were out of money trees.
Am aware of some clubs who provide reduced fees for children if a parent coaches at the club, but don't think that too many people who love the game would 'negotiate' with the club, or hold them to ransom over $250 or $500.
If they are in it for the money, priorities are certainly in wrong place
Quality Coaching
Years ago
Hanging Around - Seems I won't be changing your opinion, but I will try to explain the context.
Some clubs spend 10s of thousands on dollars on Premier League teams chasing titles, while parents who pay $100s of dollars a year wonder why they have to have a parent coach a team. Meanwhile committed coaches who put in hours upon hours a week quit as they have to look after their career.
Premier League programs make nothing for clubs. They are a drain. Imagine the cost of getting an import, match payments plus car, housing, revenue from camps. It all adds up.
Junior programs are the bread and butter of clubs. Parents pay for a service, and want good coaching.
We aren't talking about people becoming rich, we are talking about keeping good coaches in clubs and providing a service to parents paying a lot of money.
Quality Coaching, I think you've just said what everyone on the outside solely involved in junior basketball thinks. But I don't know that's completely accurate.
PL and Senior competitions are very important to a Club. Home games can become club events for all members, past players and families. They can be used to generate local interest from potential new families, local councils etc.
Secondly what does a junior have to aspire for if not a Senior playing position somewhere. While many will aim much higher, the reality is that Premier League for most is the best level of senior competition they can realistically achieve.
If Clubs invested no money into the PL programs the League would cease to exist. What then for the current juniors? What long term goals can they set for their playing careers?
A good club can fund Senior programs from sponsorship, Senior and YL programs as well as door, canteen, bar and fundraising efforts at Home games. As a result they possibly could draw $0 from their Junior Program.
Maybe you need to check your club's structure to find out where your money is going if you're so concerns your junior fees are paying for 10s of thousands spent on PL players.
Nothing wrong with a senior team playing in their state league. I think what all of these types of leagues need to have a look at is having a zero import rule. This will increase numbers for juniors to come through. Do we really need imports at the state league level?
It's a great conversation
I like premier league and get to a few games with the family - home games only. Whilst we like to watch winners, I would prefer to see locally grown talent -only. Even better if the local has achieved great things with their basketball talent, and so do my kids. They know who theses players are.
Unfortunately, if your club has failed to develop good programs, any talent you think you might have in your junior ranks will go searching for the best coaches. It is happening all the time, and,generally, it's not the successful club chasing the talent, they just have the best environments to attract good coaches. It's a vicious cycle.
Get good coaches, the talent will stay, then you will enjoy these kids / adults playing at the highest level at your club. Don't blame the "big" clubs. They are just doing it better - that's how they got big.
Quality Coaching
Years ago
#645401 - I appreciate what you are saying and for context I have been on the inside of basketball clubs, one way or the other for twenty plus years. Variety of positions.
Investing no money would be extreme, and wasn't quite what I suggested.
It's an interesting conversation never the less. I don't think I have more to add.
Grape Vine
Years ago
Still no announcement from Centrals and Woodville?
Shooting themselves in the foot
401, junior success will flow into PL. You will have guys that had such a good junior experience they are willing to put back. Some clubs with phenomenal, world class junior development focus on outcomes for their juniors MUCH, MUCH higher than premier league. This enables them to focus on using junior programs to build future elite professionals on the court, on the sidelines or outside of basketball in other careers.
Grape Vine
Years ago
I cant find the Noorwood lineup published anywhere but I think it is well known who is in what position.
Anon
Years ago
I don't think Norwood ever releases their line up do they?
anyone who knows love to see.
Thanks.
Anonymous
Years ago
I have heard that Woodville are still finalizing coaching lineup and Centrals wont be publish theirs.
Oberon 84
Years ago
Woodville still trying to find/ poach enough players, can't name a coach to a team that can't field 5
Anon
Years ago
^ The post above sucks. I have nothing to do with Woodville but i see them offering free registration to encourage young girls to come and join their program, that's just awesome in my opinion so making fun of their efforts to build their program bites.
Plenty of teams haven't announced their coaching lines ups.
anon how is it awesome?
Clubs charge fees to cover costs. Who will pay for these girls to train, nominate, register?
Why Girls and not Boys? Why Under 12s and not all age groups? How is this fair to families that have been at Woodville for a long time?
Once the summer season is over and they all get a bill to play Winter, how many will continue to play?
Short term action that will just make it look like Woodville are better but in the end do more harm.
cat
Years ago
are Woodville now in a position to fully fund this initiative?
or are BSA once again coming to the rescue?
I agree it's a fantastic short term gesture, but very few Clubs would have the $$ to fund it.
Anon
Years ago
I don't know how they are funding it, and i am sure they will organise a payment plan for winter or the year after for kids who will find it hard, i hope they have thought about it in a long term sense.
Girls not boys as their boys program is strong enough and they do not have enough girls to enter 1 - 2 teams right now i don't think.
Attracting girls to have a go in the first place will in my opinion result in many of those girls falling in love with the game and the parents getting their head around it which is better than doing nothing.
Anonymous
Years ago
Noorwood?
Centrals?
Woodville?
Anyone got coaching lineups for these clubs?
Anonymous
Years ago
Central District Lions:
U10 Boys
Myles Thiele
U10 Girls
N/A
U12 Boys
Bradly Harris
U12 Girls
Phil Sherwood
U14 Boys
Toby Lockwood
U14 Girls
Nisa Sexton
U16 Boys
Dan Nelson
U16 Girls
Stephanie Harris
U18 Boys
Rupert Sapwell
U18 Girls
Benn McDonald
On the weekend I was told Norwood were still looking for a few coaches (not Div 1) and was also told of a Div 3 parent whose team didn't have a coach that they should force the club to forfeit until they had one to punish it financially for not getting coaching staff organised and trying to make parents coach....
Well done another pointless Norwood comment !
Lets just all agree your amazing child was treated like crap at Norwood so we can all move on !
LOL. My kid was terrific at Norwood........not
Source was out looking for coaches.....
Lol, what club isn't looking for coaches at this point? I doubt any club has their coaching line-up completed 100%.
It's a volunteer role people. Not a professional service with KPIs and people knocking down the door to coach.
I guess if someone wants to forfeit Norwood could just kick the kid out and bring in other kids. Tough to punish the kids due to the unrealistic expectations of parents but probably only solution.
Anon
Years ago
Comments above are clumsily worded however not having a coach for the lower DIVs is common across the board of course. The way the flames handle it is the difference.
The CD doesn't directly ask parents to coach or communicate the team may not have one organised yet, just waits for parents to get stressed or worried and a mum or dad to come to the rescue.
other clubs ASK parents who have enough skill or desire to coach - the flames force it by way of offering nothing else including offering up zero communication.
Anonymous
Years ago
Goodness. Reading this I would never take my children to North Flames. Are there other clubs which we should steer clear of/ What clubs are the best ones?
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