Swain is actually 03. Pretty impressive for a bottom ager.

Good list lots of talent

IMO

Heal
Poa
Riley
Palmer
Lopes
Ogier
Nnopu
Potter
Hollingsworth
Locandro
Anstey
Jefferson


Wigness
Madden
Rantall
Taulapiu
Capetola
Buluk
Clarke
Steiner
Jackson
Simons
Crowe
Tsapatolis

(Just for 2017 Asia... I see a few changes come worlds in 2018)

Can't compare the 18's with the 16's! Apart from Wigness who is a certainty the 01 athletes in the boys are better at this stage

#096 must be Victorian!!

OP
If you were at the 16 nationals, you weren't watching the girls very closely. Potter yes. Others no. Need to be able to do more than shoot a lot.
A few other girls from the top 4 would have to be considered.
Melbourne
Riley
Van der Maas
Maybe a few others.

In the boys, Tassie had an '01 big who was selected in 18s this year but didn't make it to Nationals, I assume through injury but not sure. I think he would be worth a look in a group that's thin up front.

Other than that, sandgroper I think your list is pretty solid. Hopefully some of the other '01 kids throw themselves in the mix. I'm curious as to how many of the '02 kids BA will invite to camp given the apparent talent discrepancy between the age groups (at least right now). Williams (WA) and Simons (NSW) the next best '02 candidates?

For a comparison

U16 2016
PF 6'4 Steiner averaged 16 points, 7 rebounds
PF 6'4 Kearing averaged 15 points, 9 rebounds
PF 6'5 Jackson averaged 13 points, 16 rebounds
C 6'7 Igbenoba averaged 11 points, 5 rebounds
C 6'7 Crowe averaged 8 points, 9 rebounds
C 6'7 Tsapatolis averaged 12 points, 8 rebounds
C 6'10 Walsh averaged 10 points, 11 rebounds

(Last years guys have grown atleast another inch)

U16 2017
C 6'5-6'6 Simons averaged 15 points 12 rebounds
C 6'8-6'9 Tsapatolis averaged 12 points 9 rebounds

Seebohm and schueller are the coaches. Good choices imo.

The standard at the U18's was very good and the talent on display was one of the better years.
2001 age group is strong

Starting 5s

5'10 Wigness
6'3 Rantall
6'5 Clarke
6'5 Steiner
6'8 Tsapatolis


5'6 Heal
5'9 Palmer
6'0 Nnopu
6'3 Hollingsworth
6'3 Anstey

6'1 maybe 6'2

There are some good 01 kids featured in the 18's stats:
http://websites.sportstg.com/comp_info.cgi?c=1-4101-0-439123-0&pool=1003&round=0&a=STATS

None that haven't already been mentioned.

NZ Women Squad
Ella Bradley, Isabelle Cook, Tayla Dalton, Raykesha-line Fiatau, Charlisse Leger-Walker, Paris Lokotui, Jordyn Maddix, Tara Manumaleuga, Helen Matthews, Kyra Paniora, Sharne Pupuke-Robati, Briarley Rogers, Rosalia Samia, Rashaan Smith, Tessalonia Talo-Tomokino.

Nz Boys squad
Shalom Broughton, Tom Cowie, Mitchell Dance, Haven Dixon, Hayden Druce, Kainoa Lepou, Cullen Marsters, Oskam Waitaha, Sharne Perham, Te Tuaio Rautangata, Anzac Rissetto, Jaylin To'o, Marvin Williams-Dunn

NZ all 2001

02 player highlights are surfacing from u16s

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1On597YTiGE

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sgTFJjOEi3A

There were some decent ones after the 18's also. Awesome work

Got any links?

hardest position to choose is center for both teams.

Girls C
6'3 Anstey, 6'3 Jefferson, 6'3 Ayliffe, 6'3 Hannan, 6'4 Johnson, 6'5 Rees
Last u17- 6'4 Magbegor, 6'4 Mcspadden, 6'5 Cochrane

Boys C
6'6 Simons, 6'7 Crowe, 6'7 Igbenoba, 6'8 Green, 6'8 Tsapatolis, 6'10 Walsh
Last u17- 6'8 Dalton, 6'10 Froling, 6'10 Colina


Not much between them.

275 I'm struggling to come up with which Green you mean. NSWM? He would be a stretch, surely?

The boys might get some leeway with rebounding strength at C given what Jackson has shown he can do. With not a lot of dominant scorers or shot blockers in that group, it's probably more about having a couple of bodies available to throw at any genuinely big kids from other teams.

Yeah, green from last years metro. Would be a stretch...

Personally I'd take Tsapatolis, Jackson, Steiner but am unsure as to the other 2

Any quality centres in the ssanba?

Agree with those 3. Not sure on ssanba but it's a year that could use one.

These squads should be announced soon?

OP squads look about right in the boys with the girls having more 01 or first year 18's. You can't compare the 16's with 18's.

You wouldn't take any of the 02 girls to camp to see how they go against 01 players?

5'6 Henderson (aggressive pg- good leader 82ft%, 35% 3pt)
13 pts, 6 rbds, 4 asts
5'6 East (consistent pg 75 ft%, 37% 3 pt)
20 pts, 5 reds, 3 asts
5'8 Riley (aggressive guard with range almost 40%3pt)
12 pts, 4 rbds, 5 asts
5'9 Melbourne (well rounded get to the rack guard)
14 pts, 8 rbds, 5 asts
6'0 Potter (quick athletic-leading scorer in tournament)
20 pts, 8 rbds
6'0 Cotton (well rounded sf 89ft%'35% 3 pt)
13 pts, 8 rbds, 3 asts
6'1 Van der Maas (shot 90ft% and almost 50% 3 pt)
12 pts, 5 rbds
6'2 Barber (mobile pf with range)
13 pts, 8 rbds
6'5 Rees (mobile - tallest player 01/02)
11pts, 11 rbds

It's about time we start bringing more people into camp to go against each other and actually test them.
like 25-30 player camps, (5-6 best players per position)
not the normal take 15, and reduce to 12...

The USA have a pool of 120-150 players every time they choose a squad.
A lot of the euro teams do the same.

It's all about the $$ unfortunately! BA roll out all of these programs but are significantly restricted with national junior squads. The U17s that recently went to the Oceania Championships didn't even have a selection camp?? At very best they would have a squad of 18-20.

This is why we lose so many kids to football and netball.

are you talking about other 02 players?


Do they measure these kids when they go to camp?

Shuttle run
Sprint
Standing jump
Wingspan/height etc
Along with all the essential basketball skills..

are you talking about other 02 players?


Do they measure these kids when they go to camp?

Shuttle run
Sprint
Standing jump
Wingspan/height etc
Along with all the essential basketball skills..

Oops double posted..

I watched the u16 americas in which USA won, Canada 2nd, Argentina 3rd, Colombia 4th.All qualified for next years u17 World Cup.
USA look very very good. unbeatable it looks like. They booted the coach after last years historic semi final loss to us. Had a camp with 150 players before choosing the final squad.

The euro u16 teams have been announced recently and they are much taller than previous years. All positions...

We were one of the biggest and fastest teams last year, but we won't be any of those next year.

Generally those athletes that are in their respective NITP/NPP squads are measured and tested regularly so the National Coach U/16-17 would have test results plus their performances at National Champs performances to base their selection in a squad. The 01 age group is decent in both genders and apart from the 02 male PG in the Qld Nth team that won gold, they would be far superior to the other 02 born athletes.
The question is apart from the above mentioned athlete what U/16's from the recent championships would feature against the better U/18's from Townsville? I was at both championships and the U/18's was well above the U/16's.

Even the bench 6-10 players from Townsville would be superior to those top 10 performers from the u16 champs.

These guys and girls are at COE so no doubt they are guaranteed a spot.

Wigness
Buluk
Clarke

Heal
Palmer
Hollingsworth

01 u18s

Girls
Walsh-Gay
Lee
Dallinger
Jefferson
Heard
Fowler
Hannan
Levy
Stratford
Vidmar
Sawyer
Hank
Oneill
Amoore
Nnopu
Ogier
Anstey
Hollingsworth
Lopes
Poa
Deegan
Ayliffe

Boys
Madden
Crowe
Walsh
Meldrum
Meakes
Pepper
Rantall
Capetola
Taulapiu
Kearing
Travers
Buluk
Jackson
Igbenoba


Plenty to choose from....
Not sure everyone on this list beats out all 02s.

#641142
From your list you missed the second and fourth overall scorers respectively at the championship that are both 01 or first years? I wont name them as they are under 18.

And some of those girls wouldn't make the squad if it was 30+??

Did you just randomly pick out some names???

I missed 2 teams. and 2 quality players.
1 is at global academy.

IMO those girls would make the camp, if it was 30 players.
Obviously some that didn't make it on u18 squads and also some 02s, About 5.

I would choose a much quicker more mobile squad for Asia, with height not being a major factor, given our opponents.

6 quick guards, 3 quick forwards, and 3 quick mobile bigs.

worlds would be
5 guards(2pg, 1cg, 2sg), 3 forwards(2sf, 1cf), 4 bigs(1pf, 1 pf/c, 2c)

Play to your strengths. Midget ball is not Australia's strong point as we can see at u19 worlds this week.

Going small would be the dumbest strategy imaginable.

"Going small" is a misleading term, anyway. It's about big bodies who can play smart and fast. I think 163 has a reasonable point about plodding bigs not being necessary for Asia, where we're unlikely to encounter 7'0" back to the basket posts anchoring offences.

But, if we're going to see those big bodies come worlds, is it worth taking some bigger, slower kids to Asia for the sake of continuity? Only if we can still qualify, IMO.

And 190, to say 'play to your strengths' and then disregard that the strength of particular age groups could be different seems strange. As discussed above, there isn't much stand-out size in the middle for the '01/'02 boys. They have a number of very impressive guards and wings, though.

I think you would pick at least 6 guards for Asia and work on the bigs for Worlds. The 01 guards in both Girls and Boys is very good. Lots of standouts at the completion of the week.

A couple of 6'2 girls that are quicker than some of the guards.
Those are the ones we should be taking for Asia in the post.

The 6'3-6'5 girls we have (and there's about 7) are all quite slow and need a lot of development.

The nz squad and some of the Asian squads have already been picked and started training weeks ago.

No sign of even a camp list for Australia.

Probably having them spell checked

Nz team already assembled and playing overseas, developing chemistry.

http://www.basketball.org.nz/News/aon-new-zealand-under-17s-return-from-philippines-with-two-wins-and-international-experience