Joyce is not coaching the Opals.

Brendan Joyce on life after the Opals

Maybe I'm being cynical but it sounds a bit far-fetched for him to have had so many responsibilities and take so much credit.

I'm not sure about Brondello. Hasn't she just signed a multi year contract with the Mercury. How does she train and coach the Opals (who's next campaign is in July at the Asian Champs) when she's coaching in the USA at the same time. I can't see BA appointing Brondello after all the crap that went down with Joyce. Time to get on track. Maybe Chambers, she's just won the WNBL coach of the year, coached at junior level internationally. What about Tom Maher, he's not coaching back in China, saw him at the WNBL Grand Final. Hasn't he got 4/5/6 Olympics under his belt with great success. Ready made I think.
And what about our Hall of Famer Michelle Timms. She's back in Australia from coaching in China also, maybe those two can hook back up as HC and AC.

Seebohm Should have kept coaching in the League to be considered maybe. He and his team did a great job at the u17 but coaching senior professional women at the world stage would be a whole different Ball game. He needs to get a few more games under his belt.

If we met 4 out 5 KPIs in the last game in Rio then we must have had the wrong KPIs. Hearing Joyce spent more time at a recent Sandringham Clinic talking about what he has done instead of using that time to coach!!

Did he even put his hand up to Coach the Opals.
I heard today there were at least 5 applicants, and he didn't get a mention. Maybe he knows he's not ready yet.

Brendan Joyce didn't quite get assistance to coach with him that could of taken over from him either. Should have had at least 1 current WNBL coach in there. We have to start from scratch now with nearly all of our current WNBL coaches not had any experience with the senior program. Chris Lucas has but not for the past 4 years. Ok that's not right he helped out with the NZ team as an assistant, but that's not the Opals. It was a terrible appointment from the start. Glad to hear he has gone onto other things but sounds like he has continued to justify himself.
The more I think about it, Tom Maher should be approached and appointed the position.

KPIs? LMAO. Maybe KPI #1 was to successfully catch the plane to Rio and the team certainly achieved that.

I don't get why Seebohm didn't take the Flames job he was offered. Sure BA may have been more lucrative, but he was on track to be Opals Coach

Seebohm wouldn't sign on as the Flames wouldn't let him pick his own players.

Seems like things worked out OK for the Flames without him though.

Doggies Forever nailed it, he's too young and not experienced enough. I think he would say the same thing.
Not sure about Chambers as Opals Coach either, she's had one championship win, Brondello was a Champion player for the Opals and is used to coaching readymade teams but she needs to be here in Australia taking care of our players, not coaching in the WNBA when the Opals are supposed to be preparing for competition. Maybe her turn might be 2024.
Tom Maher has 6 Olympics and a couple of medals with the Opals, he knows everything there is to know about International hoop and maybe available. Don't know if he's back with China, but if not he's the obvious one.
Chris Lucas - dunno
Guy Malloy - definitely not
Larissa Anderson - needs some help
Andy Stewart - not ready

2 words sum up Tom Maher's success on the international stage. "Lauren Jackson"
Without those 2 words Tom has zero

You're delusional if you think Seebohm is at the senior international level yet, and Goriss (Goriss who?). And if you're going to select a coach select a coach who is will be able to coach at all international events.
Not sure about the comments on Maher either.
So you are saying that anyone who has coached Jackson can't Coach. Maybe ask Jackson, she still says that in all the coaches she's ever had Tom Maher has been the best, and she's had a lot of Coaches.
Didn't he get Australia's first ever medal in Atlanta (without Jackson)
Followed up with a Silver in Sydney
New Zealand to the quarter finals in Athens - (who would of predicted that one)
China to the Semi Finals in Beijing
That British team were more than competitive in London in their first ever international competition
Took China to the 2012 Olympics when it was predicted by everyone they wouldn't get past the Qualifying stage.
Not a bad record for someone that apparently needs Jackson.
I think all Opals fans are just asking for BA not to screw up another decision. They should have stepped in when Joyce continued to select non international prospects and leave out genuine international champions. They didn't have the balls to tell him.
I guess we'll all find out sooner or later.

Didn't the WNBA coach Brian Agler put his name forward for the Opals but Joyce got it?
Or what about going for the Serbian Olympic coach, given the way they beat us?

Should we consider someone from outside with Aussie assistants?

Why would Serbia give up their job, she's on a high.
I think we did have a couple of internationals apply when Joyce got it, obviously Joyce was the preferred. What a joke.

Veal hasn't coached anyone yet.

Veal is coaching kids at CofE ...big difference

Brendan Joyce has certainly made some mistakes as Opals coach, and he probably was given too much control of the squad and its operation. Having worked with the guy in a basketball capacity, while he was the head coach of the NBL Championship winning Wollongong Hawks in 2001, I can assure you he's a guy who knows basketball extremely well.

Anyone who plays and/or coaches basketball at that level has to have a high sense of self worth to achieve that level of success, which is why he has made the comments he has made about the successes of the Opals team he coached. KPIs are an important part of measuring success, so it's normal to talk about those, as well.

I'm not trying to state that Chocko was the best choice for coach of the most recent Opals Olympic squad; I do think that there are a lot of trolls on this forum who have nothing to say for themselves, and plenty of scorn for someone who has achieved a hell of a lot more than they have.

Just be a little respectful, please.

Huge difference
I'm coaching VJBL Championship guess I should apply. LOL

FT - Part of the problem was him thinking he knew basketball more than anyone else, and he let his ego cost us a medal. And thats a problem with a lot of the old farts running around; they refuse to believe that there's other ways to go about playing/selection. They are so set in their ways because of their past success that they refuse to believe there other's opinions of doing things might carry some weight. He surrounded himself with his usual brown noser and others who would have had zero pull/input but happy to hop on for an Olympic ride.

A penny for everytime I've heard a 90s era player now coach say "I've forgotten more about basketball than X person knows" would give me enough money for a can of coke.

The dumbest suggestion here is Heal and it came from Joyce...says a lot. If Heal makes an application for the job, it should be thrown in the bin and then the bin should be set on fire.

Seebottom just does not have enough experience with coaching women nor has he the playing experience. So many good ex-players (not that a good player automatically makes a great coach)but they should be looking to these women to create the next great coaching group , not revisiting old ones like Maher and definitely not looking at the likes of Molloy or Lucas.

brondello tooo good to be true.. some things they're too hot to touch

Hoggy Time is the best candidate for the job.

Hoggy Time is the best candidate for the job.

Why not Ian Stacker? He's done nothing wrong.

Someone did a lot of homework on Maher's International achievements.
Just the length of it proves something.
He did take an Opals team that didn't qualify for the 1992 Olympics to a 4th place at Oz94 and then onto the Atlanta Olympics for Australias 1st ever medal - Bronze. Followed up with a Bronze at the next Worlds and a Silver at the Sydney Olympics.
I don't think that's lots of experience without saying it's lots of success. It's not achieving very little.
So I guess Andres Gaze (absolute champion) had lots of experience as a player but not much success. No medals in his profile. Achieved very little. Doesn't make much sense - does it.

Annoying, I guess it depends if his KPI's for "success" are the same as Brendan's

My thoughts on Maher are based on personal experience from many years ago. I went from "mind blown" by the opportunity to work with him to "mind blown" by "How the f*&K does this guy have such a huge reputation?" in the space of 6 months. Each to their own opinion.

From reading Stacker's blogs, he'd blow up in the interview.

Seebohn - like putting a baby under hot water
Let him have a coaching career first, it will be a tough gig without handing it to someone that has one (that's right just one) international competition under his belt.

Liz Cambage would eat Seebohn alive

Duke Fan please go on more. I've heard maher is a very unique person who definitely knows his stuff, how else would he get all those jobs!

Also can someone please confirm when the qualifiers are on as surely opals would have a camp coming up if they are in July????

Would you rather Cheryl chambers or seebohm at the helm of opals? I personally feel chambers has more experience, where seebohm has only done an u17. Can't see seebohm controlling cambage!

And what happens if you give Seebohm the job as a "trial" and the team bombs out of the Asians. No Worlds for the Opals. It's not going to be easy, as stated above if all those players are unavailable, the Opals will struggle against full teams from Japan, Korea, China, NZ and Taiwan.
Did he even apply for the job?
I think it was assumed that coaches such as Brondello, Chambers, Molloy, Maher, Lucas, Anderson would put their hand up, never heard Seebohm name mentioned as doing the same. Are you in the know?
And if they are going to do any good with whoever coaches they better get a move on if they have to get ready by July?

opals are not just going to be able to walk in and win, it'll be a tough run especially by the way they played at the Olympics and with what players make themselves available! The likes of the older players eg penny, are gone so who is going step up!

You have to place well to get a good pool so you wanna make top 2.

Why not Damian Cotter? Better than a lot of names listed above. Top bloke. Knows the game back to front, always watching basketball, studying the game, getting the latest news on his phone. Gun coach who every one likes.

"Duke Fan interesting can you elaborate a bit?"
"Duke Fan please go on more. I've heard maher is a very unique person who definitely knows his stuff, how else would he get all those jobs!"


Over the years I've been fortunate to know loads of great coaches, both Aussie and international. Whether it's a clinic or working a camp or just sitting and talking hoops over a beer, I've had numerous occasion to be made to feel like I know bugger all about coaching by many of them, learning stacks in the process. In 6 months working in a program headed up at the time by Maher I can honestly say I didn't feel I learnt one new thing about the game and how to teach it. I also found his style of communicating to be mind numbingly boring, and some of the players I witnessed tuning him out did as well.

Like I said, personal opinion. Obviously he's had loads of positions, but I wasn't on the selection panel for any of them, so I can't say how he got the jobs. Lucky for him I guess!

Just goes to show that Maher is yesterday's man. Bring in the man with energy and new ideas, Damian Cotter.

Damien Cotter, wasn't he Brendan Joyce's assistant at the Olympics?
If he was, can't remember, best leave the entire staff to rest.
What is he doing now? where does he coach?

LMAO at 'sudo'

Anon above, are you saying the Flames players did or didn't like Seebohm's coaching? Either way, I don't think he has enough experience. Interesting career, but he needs a few more years before he is considered for something like the Opals gig imo.

I am impressed with Cotter's ability to "get news on his phone". That makes him basically a lock for the job you would think.

Agreed, JHf.

I think Seebohm has got great potential, but not the experience yet to be thrown into the Opals head coaching role. Too big a gamble.

Besides, if Cotter really does get news on his phone then we might as well stop the search right now because it's his to turn down.

I like the sound of Chambers head coach with Timms and Seebohm or Lucas as assistants.
Hopefully BA gets a move on so everyone can find out and get the progress of training the youngsters into shape considering it's going to be a younger side then recent years!

I know how to check news updates on my phone.

I can also bury my tongue deep into someone's nether regions.

I can give your son unwarranted NBL opportunities.

Who am I?

Hehe

Sounds like Joyce

""All of these ladies around the program would be beneficial.
Chambers, Anderson, York, Thornton, Carr, veal.

Not sure a head coach is amongst them.""

York Thornton Carr are no way in the same league as Chambers, Anderson and Veal,take them out and add Timms into that mix and you could have yourself a great team, one that respects each member it could be a good working group, but the question would be who is head....for me Id take Timms over them all for head coach

Timms has never had any desire to be a head coach - she has been very open about that. Even if she suddenly changed her mind, one's first head coaching job probably should not be the national team.
She's a great of the game and her input would be valuable, but she's not a head coach.

Wouldn't surprise me if BA do give the job to sandy brondello, the only thing that is against her is WNBA. If she can work around that it would be fantastic!

I think its a case of sandy wanting the job, and BA trying to talk he into it. But thats just MHO

Jeez it's not great if someone has to be talked into taking the job of Opals HC.

Sandy would be a solid choice, but she's the head coach of the Mercury in the winter, and co-head coach along with her husband of Ekaterinburg over the summer, so I just don't see how that could work for the Opals. It has got half-arsed mess written all over it IMO.

If Sandy's current coaching arrangements remain in place, she cannot possibly coach the Opals.

A good choice would be Ray Tomlinson, Gary Fox or Charlie Wilson. If you don't know who they are then you don't know womens basketball. Their ages might be a problem however, but still take them before Tom Maher.

Boti claims Sandy b is a done deal.

http://www.botinagy.com/blog/good-times-ahead-for-our-ladies/

That's the best news that I've ever heard..

I wouldn't say Tomlinson, Fox etc are too old. Have a look at the ages of the top college coaches.

Do not underestimate coaches such as Tomlinson, fox and their like, they know basketball always have and always will.

If Sandy B is to get the head coach position a good assistant coach line up would be, in order of position Tomlinson, Chambers and for all you he's so great people out there Seebolm (dev).