Luuuc
Years ago
WNBL 2017 Off-Season Thread
Jenna O'Hea has signed with the Melbourne Boomers for 2 seasons. Great signing for them.
The Age
Herald Sun
Luuuc
Years ago
Jenna O'Hea has signed with the Melbourne Boomers for 2 seasons. Great signing for them.
The Age
Herald Sun
Great signing by the Boomers. Have a feeling they aren't finished yet. Could see them back in playoff contention next season.
Luuuc
Years ago
By all reports they have been doing very well in the off-the-court areas, and this signing confirms that they've got some cash to spend. I agree it's a great signing, and reason for some optimism for Boomers fans.
(I really don't think they were that far off the mark this season in terms of playing personnel. Hopefully they don't neglect the front court this time when they're constructing the team)
Talbot, bishop and George all on lightning wish list for next season,
Nice front court..l
Luuuc
Years ago
A good reference point to keep track of how the teams are shaping up:
Hoopshots WNBL Offseason Tracker
Melb Fan
Years ago
So stoked with that signing, O'Hea is the type of player the Boomers lacked last season - someone who could take over and get the team over the line. I do wonder what will happen with their stacked guards, surely it isn't feasible to keep all 4 of Garrick, Cole, Smart and Conti (who has already re-signed) as the first 3 definitely could start and/or command big minutes on most rosters and Conti will probably continue to improve and deserve an increase in minutes too.
Nonetheless it looks like an exciting off-season across the board, hopefully the league can get some big names across the line.
You can count ... a snipe at the coach everytime a WNBL thread comes out.
yes and some of those snipes are very justified like this one.
Anonymous
Years ago
Does that mean that Boomers no longer need propping up financially by WNBL/BA
If the can afford Ohea for two seasons I hope they can stand on their own feet financially like the other teams have to
And agree re Molloy , his coaching won't change no matter who they have playing
Anonymous
Years ago
Does that mean that Boomers no longer need propping up financially by WNBL/BA
If the can afford Ohea for two seasons I hope they can stand on their own feet financially like the other teams have to
And agree re Molloy , his coaching won't change no matter who they have playing
Keen observer
Years ago
Boomers aren't my team, but honestly it is a win for the league and all fans to see a player of this calibre return.
Anonymous
Years ago
Conti was fsigned first because she will be on an amateur contract most likely if she has aspirations of going to college so a guaranteed pmayer for no financial outlay
Luuuc
Years ago
From Boti's blog:
BIG news today in WNBL ranks with Melbourne Boomers revealing they have secured London Olympian Jenna O'Hea for the next two seasons.
There's more to come too with Liz Cambage and Louella Tomlinson strongly tipped to form a frontcourt that will bring the Boomers right back into Championship calculations.
DJ Lizzy C looking to play hoops or spin tracks at timeouts and half time?
Amazing how a club who was broke can one year later afford the likes of Liz Cambage and Jenna OHea ........
Keen observer
Years ago
McSpadden is signed to the Flames next year.
Luuuc
Years ago
WNBL stars set for landmark deal which will guarantee them a minimum $7500
AUSTRALIA'S best women’s basketballers are on the brink of a landmark deal which would guarantee them a $7500 minimum wage.
The Herald Sun understands the deal will soon be announced as a huge boost for the 20 per cent of women basketballers who are paid nothing or less than $5000 to play.
And the deal will include a breakthrough in supporting pregnant players, who will have their contracts honoured under the agreement.
Holmes said there had been strong progress on a TV deal after the ABC dumped the competition in 2014/15 due to budget cuts.
from the bleachers
Years ago
IMO - did not think Boomers were not that bad this year - results did not reflect how close they were.
Just lacked a couple of talls and just some 1% finishing skills went amiss at times.
Great to hear some good basketball names being aligned back with WNBL teams.
Also nice about the $ - it is what it is and if everyone keeps looking to market the game / teams / gate things can look up there.
Yes the WNBL should be back on TV, but not at the standard of coverage it was before. The ABC coverage, like what the clubs have been putting online is a complete disservice to the sport and the athletes.
It needs to be produced and packaged properly to reflect the fantastic game it is or it will simply not thrive.
Luuuc
Years ago
Brittany Smart re-signs with the Boomers.
http://wnbl.com.au/boomers-make-another-smart-move/
Melb Fan
Years ago
Maddie Garrick has also re-signed with Melbourne.
http://wnbl.com.au/melbourne_news/maddie-garrick-commits-boomers-201718/
The club supposedly also has 3 more signings to be announced in the coming weeks.
Amazing how a club who had absolutely no money last season can suddenly have the cash for the likes of Jenna OHea and if rumours are correct Liz Cambage, both will be demanding big money plus Garrick and import Smart ( conti won't cost them anything)
So the Boomers get good Aussie players back into the league and into Melbourneand that is a problem ? You think the Perth public are upset when they put that roster together ??? Bet not
It's the same person always whining about anything the Boomers do. Just ignore them.
Red74
Years ago
Could you imagine whitcomb and cambage in the Lynx together......yes please
So are you saying Cambage not a lock for Melbourne and Perth may beat them in a bidding war.
The Lynx are more likely to lose Whitcomb to the Boomers than pick up Cambage.
Anon #721 I think somebody was dreaming out loud...
Melb Fan
Years ago
http://wnbl.com.au/sami-whitcomb-recommits-perth-lynx/ great to see Sami signing on for another 2 seasons with the Lynx. Hopefully she can get that well deserved MVP award soon!
Luuuc
Years ago
EXPECT a whopping great Easter present to arrive shortly for the WNBL in terms of a new, long-coveted and long-awaited television deal.
Maley should have been working on this from the start , not now his daughters back playing!!
WNBL obviously didn't learn from NBL's appointment of ex player Chuck Harmison as CEO back in the day... lmao
Melb Fan
Years ago
http://www.botinagy.com/blog/cruisy-suzy-stays-put/
interesting that Boti is writing about Tomlinson and Cambage being certainties for the Boomers - I do believe Cambage will be the announcement made today. Also quite interesting that he believes Kerryn Harrington will be switching to AFLW with Carlton - surely the Spirit need to get a good import guard because they definitely struggled big time when she was out injured last season.
So glad Rach Jarry has signed with Canberra, https://twitter.com/WNBL/status/854841602451296257
its great that she will be back in the league. She's definitely been putting in the hard yards since she came back from Europe - many of the mens and womens players do some training at my local park.
Luuuc
Years ago
Dammit. Jarry would have been the perfect fit for Perth's needs.
Well done, Caps.
Tim Duncan
Years ago
https://www.theeveninggame.com/home/sport/cherylchambers
Melb Fan
Years ago
Some more interesting signings from Boti's article today - http://www.botinagy.com/blog/clydesdale-to-run-lightning-horses/
Clydesdale to Adelaide - this one shocked me, but I think going to Adelaide could make her stand out a bit more than on the Dandy lineup.
Scherf to the Caps - not surprised Scherf is leaving Dandenong after the way she was handled last season to be honest.
Mijovic to Dandenong
Kayla Pedersen (F/C from WNBA Connecticut Sun) to Dandenong - played with Dandenong in 2013/14.
Also mentioned Betnijah Laney (WNBA Chicago Sky & Perth 15/16) will be back in the league but no comment on which team.
Luuuc
Years ago
Liz Cambage signing with the Melbourne Boomers just confirmed by the club
Luuuc
Years ago
Melbourne Boomers sign basketball superstar Liz Cambage
THE prized signing of international superstar Liz Cambage has catapulted Melbourne Boomers into WNBL championship favouritism.
The return of the 203cm dual Olympian, unveiled this morning on a one-year-deal, caps a landmark week for the WNBL which on Tuesday announced a three-year broadcast deal with Fox Sports.
...
So how many SA girls are signing with Adelaide as promised by coach Lucas. Is it money or other issues we are not seeing many if any returning.
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Years ago
I think only 2-3 Lightning signings have been confirmed - early days yet. Have to see what teh opponents have as well - now Cambage is playing expect some super talls to be in demand.
Melb Fan
Years ago
A bit interesting in the Cambage press conference, the chairman kept alluding to them becoming fully professional team i.e. like Perth training during the day etc. Also seemed to me like they'd finished signing all the 16/17 squad they were intending to keep, so I'd be curious as to where players like Kunek, Thompson, Cunningham and Bowen end up. The Boomers lineup so far certainly does look playoff calibre - if they can all gel together that is, so I'm excited for October!!
Anon
Years ago
Wow Clydesdale to Adelaide, that's a slap in the face for Dandenong, given the captaincy at 23, starting five full court time last two years, how can she be showcased anymore than what she has, Sherf I can understand , but she also will have to work hard or the same thing will happen, grass isn't always greener on the other side, it still needs to be watered and fed to stay green.
How can boomers a team that had no money and had to get backing by BA to stay in comp last year now afford Ohea and Cambage, both demand huge salaries, rumour was close to $200k for Ohea, Cambage would want way more, And now they are going professional .....hope they pay back to money BA and the WNBL dished out to keep them in the comp before spending up big to buy a championship.
Now that the league has to pay a minimum wage to all players unless they are junior developments players it will be interesting to see just how deep these teams are going to run.
Mijovic to Dandenong.....oh dear!!
Any more Melbourne signings will be Melbourne based players as they are like Adelaide trying to promote a State brand.
Melb Fan
Years ago
I've no clue how the Boomers can afford that calibre of players either, but in saying that it is probably just as or close to as important as the TV deal for the league. Players like Cambage in particular draw will draw in so many more people, her face recognition would be just about on par with LJ for the 'casual' basketball fan.
I hope the boomers can afford to spend a couple of dollars of their big new budget to hire someone to look after their social media. It's a joke right now. The club has gone ahead in leaps and bounds off the court and are holding themselves back from more growth due to their lack of SM presence.
To save on productions costs Fox should ask Cambage for a mixtape to be used as the WNBL's coverage opening theme song.
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Years ago
be interesting if someone like Saicha Grant-Allen, Lanay Montgomery or Kai James would be interested in playing in Aust - going to have to counter Liz
""Any more Melbourne signings will be Melbourne based players as they are like Adelaide trying to promote a State brand.""
and thats why Adelaide have contracted Clydesdale,never knew she was from Adelaide, Lucas has apparently been given a big budget to buy players,doubt many locals will be getting much of a look in in major positions, Adelaide dont have many legit players to choose from that are 'local'at that calibre.
Luuuc
Years ago
Abby Bishop signs with Adelaide
http://wnbl.com.au/mac-adelaide-lightning-welcome-back-abby-bishop/
Melb Fan
Years ago
It's great that Adelaide have been able to get one of their best current SA born players back, she was playing extremely well in France this past season. IMO she's a bit unlucky to not get at least a training camp invite for WNBA based on what she produced in France. The standard of this year's league will surely have to be one of the best ever.
The Boomers are also announcing yet another signing tomorrow.
yes Sherf to Canberra, but Mijovic going to Dandenong surly not if they are having Mallot and Blicavs and Pederson, Mijovic wont want to be coming of the bench thats for sure
be interseting to see who Rangers get to replace Clydesdale, or will they now start to bring in their younger guards and give them a role before they loose them too like they have Sherf and Bibby....no good having young players and developing them then never using them , they eventually get tired of waiting and go else where
Hespect
Years ago
Clydesdale was 22/23/24 or so with a full time starting pg role at Dandy.
Should they have been playing 17 year olds major minutes instead?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/south-east/sport/cocaptain-aimie-clydesdale-leaves-dandenong-rangers-for-adelaide-lightning/news-story/1c1ace820fd45abae3375394910ac754
I think Dandenong will keep toddhunter as backup, bring a young pg in (maybe a girl out of college-Panousis/ioniidis) and bring in an import as the starter.
Anon
Years ago
Panousis would go to Sydney most likely , plus Dandenong would not bring in someone like her, they already have two guards of better quality in Whatman and Antoniado sitting there waiting
Toddhunter was a starter in the second half of the season, would imagine she will remain as such for the coming WNBL season, unless they can scoop a top international PG with pl entry of experience, I'd expect they will concentrate on bigs to replace Sherf and Kennedy( who retired).
Any word on Novosel, it would be good if they could keep her, she could start rather than come off the bench
The wnbl should make another import spot and try to bring in some more young developing WNBA players.
Recently waived by WNBA
Some good prospects on that list with many more to come over next week.
Dallas Lang, Kelsey
Dallas Purcell, Kalani
Chicago Cooper, Shayla
San Antonio Williams, Courtney
Washington Range, Courtney
Atlanta Fields, Nirra
Atlanta Little, Peyton
Chicago Williams, Destiny
Los Angeles Cave, Khadijia
Los Angeles Dornstauder, Quinn
Minnesota Hayes, Keyona
Connecticut Cooper, Shayla
New York Okorie, Chinwe
Reply #634775
re: WNBL 2017 Off-Season Thread
The wnbl should make another import spot and try to bring in some more young developing WNBA players.
No they shouldn't they need to be developing their Aussie players
We don't have the talent pool just yet.
It's at least 4-5 years away before we have serious depth on the rosters.
And that's if we don't lose alot of guards to afl.
Adding more imports and therefore further reducing the amount of starting spots in the WNBL for aussies is only going to further push athletes towards AFLW. We are getting some very handy imports out here lately but I think for now it is wise to stick with 2. I would rather have quality over quantity.
Talent pool currently in guard spots here
Wherung
Tupuea
Antoniado
Conti
Pirini
Ellsworth
Shelley
That's to name just a few I'm sure their are more who could be added
All these are 21 and under all bar one represented Australia in juniors
If they are not going to develop Australian players what incentive is there for kids to stay and play
Not really that much u21 development going on.
Elsworthy/Brook-Adelaide (Maley, Hatchard gone)
Tupaea/McLean/Mcspadden-Sydney
Antoniadou/Puli/Taylor-Dandenong (Bibby)
Wehrung/C.Bourne/Froling-Canberra (I.Bourne)
Conti/Burton/Dangelo/Gould/Nankervis-Melbourne (Ogier, Molloy)
Tessari-Bendigo
Andrews-Townsville
Fejo/Grant-Perth
Each team should be developing at least 1 pg, sg, sf, pf, c after u16 ajc and before college.
http://www.basketball.net.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/2017_U20-Ivor-Burge_Team-Lists-U20-Women.pdf
http://www.basketball.net.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/U18-Women-Team-Lists.pdf
A lot of these young ladies have potential. Not just the ones that will go to college.
lot of big personalities too in that front court, be interesting to see how it unfolds
5'10 Cole/5'5 Conti
5'10 Smart/5'10 Garrick/?
6'1 Ohea/6'0 Ott/?
6'4 Tomlinson/?
6'8 Cambage/?
Hit the nail on the head there controlling those personalitys would be a nightmare. Garrick will be certainly told by the talls if she jacks every ball she gets like last year.
any word on Kunek, wonder will she go back to boomers after last season.
Hespect
Years ago
Can you play Tomlinson and Cambage at the same time for a lot of minutes or will they be too slow and not able to get out to shooters?
It's not can you play them more would you and if so who's ego will be the stronger
Lots of big personalities and me players he's collected none are going to want to take a back seat which in some ways could mean they will all be looking to score but the real question is will they share the ball or hog it
Melb Fan
Years ago
Scherf confirmed to Canberra on a 2 season deal - I like this move as she will be with the Opals assistant coach, hopefully it pushes her to continue to improve and break into the squad. http://wnbl.com.au/uc-capitals-sign-rising-star-lauren-scherf/
Blicavs is returning to Dandenong for another season and is their first confirmed player to be signed for 17/18, article also implies that Anderson has received an extension to remain coach. http://wnbl.com.au/blicavs-re-signs-rangers-201718/
Any word on season structure considering it will be on Fox and they said season will be shorter?
Melb Fan
Years ago
http://www.botinagy.com/blog/nat-has-unfinished-business/
Nat Novosel is joining Clydesdale in moving to Adelaide. I'm interested to see who Dandenong has up their sleeve because there's a fair chunk of their core group either retired or departed to other clubs so far.
Melb Fan
Years ago
http://wnbl.com.au/championship-star-returns-fire/ Cayla George is returning to the Fire - excellent signing to get back in the league! The Fire really missed her presence last season
Possibles to wnbl?
Seekamp
Ebzery
Madgen
Kunek
Tolo
Bunton
Mitchell
Allen
Talbot
Mitchell going to Europe for next season so no WNBL
Think Tolo was as well
I'm thinking Whitcomb will take the opals naturalised spot now.
will depend on who is invited to the camp, she may not even get an invite...they havent released whos going yet, but it appears Mitchell wont be available for the Asia cup which is part of the qualifier series.
wnba fan
Years ago
katherine Plouff ?
Ah-Ra Go ?
Danielle McCray ?
Luuuc any analysis on WNBL team needs yet ?
Melb Fan
Years ago
A couple of big signings announced today;
- Nicole Seekamp to Adelaide
http://www.botinagy.com/blog/nicole-back-adding-sa-flavour/
- Carley Mijovic to Dandenong
http://wnbl.com.au/dandenong_news/carley-mijovic-signs-jayco-rangers/
- Jen Hamson returning to Sydney marking the 7th championship team member to re-sign for 17/18
http://wnbl.com.au/hamson-back-flames/
I'm looking forward to seeing what Seekamp can do in the WNBL after being away for so long overseas.
Luuuc
Years ago
The big signings are coming in thick and fast lately.
Nice work by Adelaide & Melbourne in particular.
Luuuc any analysis on WNBL team needs yet ?
If dandy can say get Mansfield,
You'd potentially have starting g 5 of
Mansfield
Cumming
Blicavs
Mijovic
Pederson
wnba fan
Years ago
i'm liking the lightning look - 2 great athletes novosel and seekamp.
adelaide is looking good for an inside / outside game.
still need a true 5 to counter Liz
Seekamp to Adelaide
Gould, dangelo, nankervis development players at boomers.
James Harvey fan
Years ago
Kunek has said she'll be playing in Europe next year, same with Tolo.
I dunno, I just thought it might be a nice get.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Allen will be playing for Lyon in France next season - she RT'd an article about her signing a few weeks back. Also read in a Boti piece that Talbot intends to be playing in Europe next season, however in the same article he had Bishop and George staying in Europe too - though I guess things can change.
Madgen did her ACL in March so unfortunately time is definitely not on her side for the 17/18 season.
no word on Pederson being recruited yet, and they will have Toddhunter she was their starting guard for half of last season and won their defensive player award, why would they take Mansfield.
Is that a joke? Why would they take Mansfield when they have toddhunter.
Anonymous
Years ago
Definitely would have Mansfield!
Would boomers take bowan and Cunningham as their final 2 spots ?
well 70 turn overs(mansfield) to 35(todhunter) be a good start for a pg position lol Rangers hate turnovers
Mansfield-2nd best pg last season behind Mitchell.
840 minutes
14.6 points
5.04 rebounds
4.83 assists
36% fg
90% ft
34% 3pt
Toddhunter-
655 minutes
4.89 points
1.96 rebounds
3.89 assists
35% fg
65% ft
34% 3 pt
James Harvey fan
Years ago
Jarry cut from Atlanta. was hoping she would get a full contract there
Jarry has been sliding down the Aussie sf list for a while. Might not even be in the top 5.
She needs to have a massive season at Canberra.
Anon
Years ago
Joycecwas the one who rated Jarry, she actually doesn't do much
Toddhunter is a defensive gutsy player, can't see Dandenong taking a p,Ayer like Mansfield over toddhunter
Clearly we have a mass shortage Of established Aussie pgs.
With Phillips and Mitchell on the way out...
No real standouts to take there place.
Yes our PG situation is dire once Mitchell & Phillips retire.
Mansfield the next best option IMO.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Probably a bit biased but I hope Bec Cole gets a chance at Opals level, I believe she made a training squad or was on the cusp before her knees went. If she can keep building on her last WNBL season she'd be worth a shot for sure IMO.
Anon
Years ago
Clydesdale has it all over Mansfield, sorry, and plenty of young ones coming through, Opals will be looking to build on their younger players, as the bulk of current players will all be late 20s early /mid 30s by the next Olympics,
Plenty of young ones that will not be opals ready by next years World Cup.
Women's World Cup is 2018. Men's 2019.
2023 World Cup and beyond for junior girls.
Only 5 Possibles for World Cup in 2018.
5'5 Mitchell (Could lose her spot to Whitcomb or Griffin)
5'7 Mansfield (inexperienced at international level)
5'7 Lavey (has not flourished even though has the tools)
5'8 Phillips (proven to be a better 2 guard)
5'10 Clydesdale (same as Lavey)
3 chosen, possibly only 2 having Whitcomb as a cg.
IMO, Squad looking something like..
5'7 Mansfield
5'10 Clydesdale
5'10 Whitcomb
1 of 5'11 Cumming or 5'8 Phillips
6'1 Ohea
6'2 Allen
6'2 Talbot
6'2 Blicavs
6'4 George
1 of 6'5 Batkovic, 6'5 Scherf, 6'5 Mijovic, 6'5 Bunton
6'5 Tolo
6'8 Cambage
Anonymous
Years ago
Mansfield scored double the points Clydesdale did in almost exactly the same minutes. Also had 5 apg to Clydesdale's 2.8 per game. But yeah, Clydesdale is obviously way better.
Anon
Years ago
Mansfield also put up over 100 more shots in that time, and shot at a lesser percentage....just because someone jacks up shots constantly does not mean they are a better player, look at what they have around them as well, one on one Clydesdale IS a better player, ....did Mansfield get an invite to Opals camp??
Luuuc
Years ago
Mansfield puts up a lot more shots than Clydesdale - because her team needs her to!
Aimee is more of a traditional pass-first PG, but has also been blessed with a lot more scoring power around her than Mansfield has. Pretty hard to compare the two directly just based on what they do in the WNBL.
I've always been a Clydesdale fan and it was great to see her finally adding some scoring to her game this past season. Mansfield is still the better player for mine, but realistically they both should be aiming for an Opals spot.
"did Mansfield get an invite to Opals camp??"
I don't recall the answer to that, but it's a silly question anyway, because using that logic you probably also want Nat Burton in our starting 5 again, and I don't think she's our best option.
Luuuc
Years ago
... actually IIRC, Mansfield copped that nasty injury right at the end of the 15/16 season that would have ruled her out anyway, which was a real shame as she was killing it that season.
http://www.basketball.net.au/basketball-australia-names-jayco-opals-camp-squad/
Mansfield was named in opals Rio camp but was injured.
Mitchell, Phillips and Lavey were chosen to go to rio but Mansfield was next in line.
That was 2016 when Joyce was picking players
Did she get an invite to this next camp?
Melb Fan
Years ago
iirc Mansfield made the initial squad of 27(?) for Rio but was cut quite soon after and didn't make it to the Rio test event or any OS tours. Madgen was the next guard in line after those who made Rio as she was cut in the final cut with Suzy.
If it were me selecting out of Mansfield and Clydesdale I'd go Clydesdale purely for her age - Mansfield will be 31 by the time Tokyo comes by whereas Clydesdale will be 27 and would still be around her prime to lead when the current 16-20ish age group of Opals guards are ready for selection.
Imo World Cup will be Mansfield, Clydesdale and Phillips.
Rio will be between Clydesdale, Lavey, Wallace, Reid, Wehrung. Maybe some younger players.
Luuuc
Years ago
Rebuild on the cards as star Perth Lynx pair leave town
Translation: We're going cheap again. No playoffs for Perth this season :(
Wonder if Lacey will end up back at Bendigo
Hope it's there not rangers
What wnbl possible local talent is there in w.a?
very old
Years ago
is the list of teams that Carley Mijovic hasn't played for now shorter than the ones she has / pehaps it time for an expansion of the league ?
^haha .... maybe she has a check list and she's working her way through every team in the league
Cannot believe Rangers recruited her , must not want much money
Luuuc
Years ago
Nothing at all. She's a very good player. I'm sad to have lost her from Perth.
I also don't see the big deal with a Melbourne player returning home after a stint over in the west, especially when it's clear that the Lynx are cutting their budget.
The only interesting thing for me is seeing how Blicavs, Mijovic & Pedersen coexsist, because that's 3 top notch players whose best positions are the 3 and/or the 4.
Seems like Larissa is going to go with small ball this season with Pedersen playing the 5?
Melb Fan
Years ago
I reckon Lavey will go back to Bendigo, a few weeks ago they tweeted a photo of her coaching which seemed a bit of an odd thing to go to the effort of doing if she wasn't playing for them.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Surely Larissa will have learnt from Melbourne's mistakes last season, going small ball - particularly in a league which now has Cambage, Bishop and George back in it, seems quite dangerous.
The Rangers have also announced the re-signing of Steph Cumming - http://wnbl.com.au/dandenong_news/steph-cumming-re-signs-jayco-rangers/
Luuuc
Years ago
Trying to exploit bigs at the other end is a valid tactic, but yeah I don't know that it's going to work too well against the quality of Cambage or the Batkovic/George duo. Some teams are going to be in a world of hurt in the paint this season.
I'd like to see Magbegor and aokuso make the jump to wnbl from seabl/coe.
Opening up a bunch more spots up at coe so we can develop some bigs.
With mcspadden, Cochrane now gone and potentially Pizzey soon, we really need to get some more post players developing. Those born 00/01/02 etc.
Anon
Years ago
Some interesting WNBL rosters thus far:
Adelaide: Clydesdale, Seekamp, Novosel, Planeta, Bishop, Brook, Elsworthy
Bendigo: Payne
Canberra: Froling, Jarry, Scherf
Dandenong: Cumming, Blicavs, Mijovic
Melbourne: Cole, Garrick, O'Hea, Tomlinson, Cambage, Smart, Conti, Ott
Perth: Edmonson, Whitcomb
Sydney: Tupaea, Wilson, Snell, Boag, Hamson, Nicholson, McSpadden, Greaves
Townsville: Wilson, Cocks, Murray, George, Batkovic, Garbin
Luuuc
Years ago
Which Boag is signed with Sydney?
(Carly is currently playing state league over here, and I was kinda hoping the Lynx would sign her up)
Anon
Years ago
Actually jumped the gun there with Boag:
Adelaide: Clydesdale, Seekamp, Novosel, Planeta, Bishop, Brook, Elsworthy
Bendigo: Payne
Canberra: Froling, Jarry, Scherf
Dandenong: Cumming, Blicavs, Mijovic
Melbourne: Cole, Garrick, O'Hea, Tomlinson, Cambage, Smart, Conti, Ott
Perth: Edmonson, Whitcomb
Sydney: Tupaea, Wilson, Snell, Greaves, Hamson, Nicholson, McSpadden
Townsville: Wilson, Cocks, Murray, George, Batkovic, Garbin Actually jumped the gun there:
Do you think there may be a trend of fringe Opals joining clubs wher the assistants coach? Or those deluded they're fringe Opals?
swollboi
Years ago
Which fringe Opals have actually joined a club where the assistants coach? No 'fringe opals' have gone to Canberra (Gorrie) or Sydney (Chambers).
Lucas is only coach of the University Games, which is under 23s only.
Stewie
Years ago
M ruef has been waived by wnba team - wnba transactions page
Luuuc
Years ago
Teams go into preseason "camp" with fairly large groups of potential players (in LA's case, especially large), including all their draft picks, plus overseas free agent prospects. By today they need to trim it back to a max of 12 (or in certain cases, 11, if salary cap is an issue).
Was always going to be a big ask for Ruef to squeeze her way onto the reigning champs roster. She gave it a good crack though.
https://pickandroll.com.au/wnbl-free-agency-tracker/
She's going to dandenong
Anon
Years ago
Let's wait for the announcement from club , surely rangers are not that desperate
Losing Lavey, who was captain, and Mijovic are big losses for the Lynx, especially if Hamblin doesn't come back.
Lavey wouldn't like the idea of playing behind Whitcomb as Lynx cant seem to get enough of Sammi, cant blame Lavey really, just hope Whitcomb doesnt let them down now shes in the WNBA league, after all she American not Australian
Luuuc
Years ago
I doubt that has anything to do with it. Lavey & Whitcomb complemented each other well as the starting backcourt. Perth's style suited Lavey's strengths. I'll be interested to see if she is as effective next season.
Not that I blame her for going. If the money and care factor is disappearing in Perth then playing close to home makes sense.
Speaking of Lynx starters heading elsewhere, I hear that Adelaide are trying to make more big things happen in time for the coming season.
"Big things"
They're going after Ruth Hamblin? Depends on her Canada commitments I guess.
http://www.basketball.ca/en/news-article/34-athletes-invited-to-attend-womens-national-team-phase-1-camp
Some nice players in there.
Interesting how no squad list has been released yet for the Opals first training camp ( that actually didn't eventuate because of player unavailability) yet all players had been notified ( lucky for Lizzie as she had a DJ gig the same time)
Seems no players over 28 were on that list
But since the camp didn't eventuate and some players are now back from Europe and after being cut from WNBA teams, it would be plain ridiculous to limit candidature to those below that age.
Over 28
Phillips. Ohea, batkovic, Mitchell, Griffin, hodges
Currently/soon to be 28
Whitcomb, George, tolo
Luuuc
Years ago
Perth Lynx sign Alice Kunek
http://www.perthlynx.com/Media/News/alice-kunek-signs-with-perth-lynx
Hopefully she can get back to the form she once had.
Luuuc
Years ago
Yes, hopefully. But the way things are shaping up, the Lynx are looking to me like a bottom 3 team this season :(
Lukosius
Years ago
I don't think the Lynx will drop off like some are saying. Lets have a look at the 7 players who averaged 15mins per game or more last season...
Whitcomb
Mijovic
Hamblin
Edmondson
Butler
Lavey
Burton
Whitcomb and Edmondson are back, while Kunek effectively replaces Mijovic. The keys here are the imports. To be honest both Hamblin and (particularly) Butler were both underwhelming as imports, especially compared to some of the gun imports at other clubs.
If they are replaced by two 5-star imports, and they can somehow recruit one more quality Aussie, they are no worse than last season.
Import
Kunek
Import
Whitcomb
Aussie
------------
Edmondson
Burton
Luuuc
Years ago
Firstly, Kunek is no Mijovic!
Tenaya Phillips was an important player in the rotation when healthy and I doubt she returns.
Despite what the haters here say, Lavey was very effective at the Lynx and leaves a big hole to fill.
I agree that the import duo wasn't top notch, but you get what you pay for, and Perth is paying less and less each season, so I don't see us getting one 5-star import, let alone 2. If we do get 2, then yes, we should be competitive.
We'll see. But IMO the Perth trend is downward, meanwhile the trend of the league overall is upward with the return of some quality aussies to the league, and in particular the big improvements at last season's bottom 2 clubs, Adelaide & Melbourne.
Luuuc
Years ago
Btw, for those who missed the wedding news, Toni Edmondson is now Toni Farnworth.
Kunek doesn't replace mijovic.
Mijovic = pf
Kunek = sf
Whitcomb to the pg spot + 1 prospect
Edmondson at sg /T.Phillips?
Kunek at sf + 1 prospect
Pf Import + grant
C Import + Burton
Probably 30 girls recently waived in WNBA would make great wnbl players.
Whitcomb would play SG. I wouldn't be suprised if Edmondson (playing PG) and Burton come into the starting lineup for Perth.
Bit worrying, but plenty of time to change things.
Luuuc
Years ago
Hopefully Perth goes after a legit starting PG (looks like Mansfield hasn't officially signed anywhere yet - I'd love to have her here. Alternatively use an import slot), because Sami needs to stay at the 2 IMO. Last thing we need to do is wear her out with ball carrying duties.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Yep I definitely agree Kunek plays her best basketball as a SF, but she can definitely fill the gap as a PF like she did for most the season at the Boomers but obviously wasn't as effective. I hope she does well over there, she was one of my favourite boomers.
Luuuc
Years ago
"Wehrung is a nice young prospect"
Yeah, I like her too. (I'm guessing Canberra will be very keen to hang on to her though)
Lots of talk in here about Opals squads. I hardly know any of the players - can someone do positional depth charts of players that are in contention, separated into two teams, sorted by those playing abroad and in the WNBL?
Luuuc
Years ago
I think it's worth starting a separate Opals 2017 thread, considering we've got the FIBA Asia Cup in July this year.
Top 3 per position?(Under 32y.o)
HOME
PG Mansfield/Clydesdale/Lavey
SG Cumming/Cole/Garrick
SF Blicavs/Kunek/Newley
PF Griffin/Mijovic/Garbin
C Cambage/Tolo/Scherf
ABROAD (still/recently returned)
PG Mitchell/Phillips/Seekamp
SG Whitcomb/Ohea/Ebzery
SF Allen/Talbot/Jarry
PF Bishop/Tomlinson
C George/Bunton
College prospects
PG Reid
SG Wallace
SF Sharp
PF Froling
C Smith
Rosenbergi
Years ago
With the Lynx signing Alice and losing Tess, it would seem obvious their primary target with imports would be a PG and a C to match it with Liz and co.
Sami will remain at the 2 (why change that up?), Alice will more than hold her own at the 3 and Toni is perfect off the bench. Add a quality import PG and the guard/wing positions seem pretty good.
But, the issue is their front court and as Luuuc has alluded to, if the Perth budget is going nowhere but down, then they will be pretty skinny.
From all reports Burton is leaning towards heading overseas and is no guarantee to re-sign. With the lack of spending, what type of big can they sign that can match it with the Cambage's of the world?
If Burton does hang around, that will help the depth but she's no game changer, so it will be interesting to see who they bring in. I felt Hamblin was starting to adjust to the league late last season, so if they can get her back, that would be a good outcome.
A lot of water to go under the bridge yet.
http://www.botinagy.com/blog/hamblin-signs-on-with-lightning/
Melb Fan
Years ago
http://www.botinagy.com/blog/hamblin-signs-on-with-lightning/
Ruth Hamblin has apparently signed with Adelaide.
I feel Roberts could well be a good suitor to Perth in that case, though I'm not sure how she would hold up against the likes of Cambage, but she'd be worth a look at the very least for a backup 5.
Kerryn Harrington has also officially switched to AFLW - signing with Carlton. It'll be interesting to see how she goes, given Phillips' success and the high likelihood Conti will go high in the draft plus ex Boomers development player Chloe Molloy is absolutely killing it at the moment and I'd say would go first pick in the draft.
Melb Fan
Years ago
http://wnbl.com.au/dandenong_news/kayla-pedersen-signs-wnbl-201718/
Kayla Pedersen confirmed to Dandenong, I'm interested to see the dynamic between Blicavs/Mijovic/Pedersen to be honest.
6'3 Pf R.Pizzey and 6'0 sf K.Rowe leave COE for Dandenong.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Molloy has stopped basketball entirely, so won't be heading off to VCU. She's extremely talented at footy though, she was the leading goal kicker by a fair margin and the best and fairest (equivalent to MVP) for the under18 league this year plus is the leading goalkicker in the senior women's league so far.
Those COE girls are good gets for Dandenong if true.
Lightning's starting lineup to date does look extremely nice on paper. Hopefully it's a super even league again this season, and it'd be nice to see the cellar dwellers of the last few seasons in Melbourne and Adelaide hopefully get into the playoffs.
Wow, going to college in US and then in future playing overseas making $$$ being turned down for minimum pay in aussie rules league propped up by profits made by the men's league. A lot of these kids I don't think understand one is a global sport the other not.
The COE girls may be "ok" at SEABL level but not WNBL, at least not for the next 4 years if at all.
Molloy a good ordinary baller at best, so will probably be an outstanding footballer.
Currently $27,000 a season for top aflw footballers. Expansion in 2019.
Top flight players might get 50-60,000 in just a few years time. Rare WNBA contracts aren't much more.
It's the better option at this point in time when she could have a 10+ year pro career as a footballer.
there is no guarantee of great money in basketball for women unless they are elite. no guarantee of great money in AFLW even if they are elite. who knows if that league will prosper once the novelty wears off. bottom line unless you are the next lauren jackson just play the sport you love.
I'd say Aokuso, Magbegor, Cubillo and Rocci aren't far off wnbl spots either.
Probably making room for those younger girls in preparation for asia champs and World Cup next year.
Magbegor to Dandenong or Melbourne would be sweet.
Adelaide still to sign Good and Nagy, 2 bench players and not forgetting hodges and planetta from last season.
VCU was not a good college as far as basketball standards and conferences go so Molloy probably made the right choice changing to AFL
She would be fighting for a spot in pg/she agsinst much stronger players in that age bracket.
Those COE girls are good for development players but not ready for the jump to WNBL just yet but certainly good if they can tag onto the end of a team now , it can only be a good thing
How good would this be?
Canberra right near coe....
Mansfield/Wehrung
Import/?/Bourne
Jarry/Froling
Ruef/?/Aokuso
Scherf/Magbegor
There would be no point in having Magbegor, aokuso or any of those born 98 and 99 back at the Coe after the u19 World Cup. Next step is opals representation.
Making room for 01 or new 00 players at coe to develop them for 2017 asia/2018 worlds, 2018 asia/2019 worlds is what should happen.
And COE spots run to the end of year 12, some of the older girls have been allowed to stay on until worlds. Ideally this would align with college years but not much interest, that's why you have them staying in Aus.
The big college interest is in the Sapphires crew coming through in the next two years.
The scouts from the good schools can spot talent.
Whyndoes it have to be a high major? Why not st Mary's?
Anonymous
Years ago
Colleges will be snapping up The likes of Hayley Andrews and Cassidy Maclane
This AFLW thing is becoming a disease. Also good luck playing both when the Americans see how rough it is if you want to play college or WNBA.
IMO it helps there development.
Basketball helps there football and vice versa.
Hey you parents of all these kids start another thread about college. This thread is about WNBL not one for you to convince everyone how good your kid is. WOW
Well said. Used to think WTF at all the talk on here about junior sport. Was baffling. Then I realised this place is full of parents. Another example is the latest Taipans player thread which has morphed into a solely St. Mary's player discussion.
We need a creche on this site for all the parents to be put into.
James Harvey fan
Years ago
Back to basketball....Abbey Wehrung re-signs with Canberra
Melb Fan
Years ago
http://wnbl.com.au/abbey-wehrung-re-signs-uc-capitals/
Abbey Wehrung is returning to Canberra for another season.
Can't help but laugh at that parent comment, I'm definitely not a parent - I'm only a year older than Molloy etc! The only reason I know/care about those switching to AFLW is because I play footy with and against them myself
Luuuc
Years ago
Tessa Lavey -> Dandenong (2 year deal) is official as per Roy Ward
Sorry but Clydesdale has it all over Lavey absolutely not a replacement equal
Not liking the look of this new rangers team at all , can't see this being a finals group this year with what other teams are putting together
Luuuc
Years ago
Any Lightning fans watching this LA-Washington WNBA game?
I didn't think wiese would do so well at the next level.
Luuuc
Years ago
Neither did I, from the little I knew. Then again I also didn't expect a well-coached WNBA team to just leave a shooter open on the perimeter so much either.
I don't expect too many more games from her like that, but it was fun to watch anyway.
{
Years ago
some of Wiese's transition 3s reminded me of LJs pull up 3s in her heyday at the Storm - such a dagger when they drop
Hopefully simmons can do what wiese has done at Oregon state and then go to the WNBA.
{
Years ago
got a backlog of games from the W to watch and catch up on.....
Melb Fan
Years ago
Amelia Todhunter has re-signed with the Rangers. http://wnbl.com.au/todhunter-re-signs-rangers/
Also slightly irrelevant but Guy Molloy has been recruited by the NZ Tall Ferns to be an associate coach.
How is Adelaide going to play all its talent? And Planeta is meant to come back. Theyre loaded.
Lynx2Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Hodges possibly to Sydney. Boti broke a lot of news this evening: http://www.botinagy.com/blog/ebzery-to-flames-standish-at-perth/
Ebzery from Russia -> Sydney
Standish from Townsville -> Perth
Sydney now:
Tupaea/Ebzery/Snell/Greaves/Hamson
Wilson/McSpadden
Lynx are:
?/Whitcomb/Kunek/Standish/?
Edmondson
Clear where they need to find some good imports.
Has that new ruling come into play yet for the minimum wage for players in the WNBL they were talking about,
Anonymous
Years ago
Townsville and Sydney will announce new player signings tomorrow.
Melb Fan
Years ago
http://wnbl.com.au/whittle-links-fire/
Townsville have signed 23yo 5'11" G/F Marena Whittle from North Dakota State University / Nunawading SEABL. She's currently averaging 15.8pts and 9 rebounds in the SEABL.
bobbi
Years ago
Nathan Strempel
@nathanstrempel
I'm hearing a 3x Olympian has just signed to play her 1st @WNBL season in #WNBL18. Another huge talent addition to watch on @FoxBasketball!
Yeah are they talking an import? Augustus or Fowles came straight to mind. That would be really massive but surely not.
^only said 3 x Olympian not 3 x time gold medallist.
Thinking someone from Europe (Turkey?)
Melb Fan
Years ago
It'd surely have to be one of the Lynx, Caps or Spirit. The other teams have already signed what you'd assume to be their starting lineups. I can't think of any Australian 3x Olympians who haven't played WNBL.
There was a rumour a while ago that Laia Palau was leaving her euroleague side to either retire or potentially play WNBL - she fits the bill with 3 olympics.
I never understood why wnbl teams always looked to the us for imports.
A huge pool of players are available in Europe. Players that have never wanted to play in the WNBA.
Luuuc
Years ago
How is a huge pool of players available in Europe when our season directly clashes with theirs, and the money is better over there?
For Americans it makes sense because we've got a solid standard league, and in terms of culture & language it's very easy for them here. Plus in Europe, Americans are restricted players so there are only so many places available for them there until they have to start going down to lower-standard leagues with lower salaries.
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Reply #636704
I'll shorten it I think because tl;dr lol
On this rumour. Whoever it is, it's probably a Victorian team since that's where the reporter who broke it is from and the teams he covers.
Only three teams in vic, boomers are just about done, Bendigo have no money so that leaves Rangers , unless who ever it is is going to be happy staring on the bench rangers pretty much have their starters, either that or someone who thought they would be starting is going to be disappointed
Rangers have just signed two COE kids neither former ranger juniors so that kills their pathway claims lol ( cheap labour they don't have to pay them)
So that's 8 spots gone on that roster. Very few players from last year for rangers, a team that made the finals yet only three have resigned!
Only Bendigo now who's not got many signed
"Reply #636704
I'll shorten it I think because tl;dr lol"
haha ok
I'm not sure Rowe and Pizzey will contribute that much. such a leap from seabl to wnbl. Must be 3rd choices at sf and pf.
Bunton going back to Europe, so we won't see her against Cambage.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Agreed on Rowe and Pizzey, especially considering the lack of use Dandenong's bench got last season. It'd be good for them in the long run though to train with and against the large contingent of Opals squad members that Dandenong has though.
Probably why they have signed them to two year contracts ... so they don't walk when they just get sat on the bench which is what will happen
Cambage off in Europe peddling her DJ career according to article in paper today ... what an embarrassment she is starting a cat fight with Bogurt on twitter
Boomers must be very impressed, I don't think
Where are WNBL clubs getting all of this money from all of a sudden?
They would not be paying the likes of Rowe and Pizzey , it's also a shorter season so
Smaller packages for some of those with small budgets , but Boomers and Lightening seem very cashed up
Anonymous
Years ago
Can someone do an updated list of the teams so far ??
So many big names coming back into the comp this year, its great for the league!!
OK that makes sense - less pay as shorter season. How short is the season then, I know it still starts in October as always. So when does it end now? Clubs must know by now?
January so four months , absolutely ridiculous who plays a league like this of that duration
Anonymous
Years ago
With games being played mid week as well apparently!
Oh well, it's only a minor women's league, the faster it's over with the better. Then you exclusively showcase NBL the last two-three months. Good move.
Melb Fan
Years ago
http://www.hoopshots.com.au/2017-wnbl-offseason-tracker/
Helen from BasketCase (check out their podcast if you haven't - they deserve all the recognition they can get) does an extremely up to date off season tracker at the above link fyi.
Adelaide:
Sarah Elsworthy (re-signed) G
Aimie Clydesdale (via Dandenong) G
Nicole Seekamp (via AZS PWSZ Gorzow - Poland) G
* Natalie Novosel (via Dandenong) G/F
Lauren Nicholson (via Sydney) F
Abby Bishop (via Tarbes - France) F
Chelsea Brook (re-signed) F/C
* Ruth Hamblin (via Perth) C
Bendigo:
Nadeen Payne (re-signed) F
Kelsey Griffin (re-signed) F
Canberra:
Abigail Wehrung (re-signed) G
Rachel Jarry (via BLMA - France) G/F
Keely Froling (re-signed) F
Lauren Scherf (via Dandenong) C
Dandenong:
Tessa Lavey (via Perth) G
Amelia Todhunter (re-signed) G
Steph Blicavs (Cumming) (re-signed) G
Sara Blicavs (re-signed) F
Carley Mijovic (via Perth) F
Rebecca Pizzey (via CoE) F
Kiera Rowe (via CoE) F
* Kayla Pedersen (via Gesam Gas Le Mura Lucca - Italy) F/C
Melbourne:
Monique Conti (re-signed) G
* Brittany Smart (re-signed) G
Maddie Garrick (re-signed) G
Bec Cole (re-signed) G
Jenna O'Hea (via Seattle Storm) G/F
Bec Ott (re-signed) G/F
Louella Tomlinson (via Misckolc - Hungary) F
Liz Cambage C
Perth:
Sami Whitcomb (re-signed) G
Antonia Farnworth (Edmondson) (re-signed) G/F
Alice Kunek (via Melbourne) G/F
Sydney:
Tahlia Tupaea (re-signed) G
Katie-Rae Ebzery (via Dynamo Moscow - Russia) G
Belinda Snell (re-signed) G/F
Alex Wilson (re-signed) G
Lara McSpadden (re-signed) F
Shanae Greaves (re-signed) F
* Jen Hamson (re-signed) C
Townsville:
Kelly Wilson (re-signed) G
Micaela Cocks (re-signed) G
Marena Whittle (via North Dakota State Uni & Nunawading SEABL) G/F
Mia Murray (re-signed) F
Darcee Garbin (re-signed) F
Suzy Batkovic (re-signed) F
Cayla George (re-signed) F/C
* = imports
Rumour yesterday that Kayla Standish (Townsville) will be headed to Perth.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Cayla George via Phoenix Mercury not re-signed - my bad!
Anonymous
Years ago
Boomers released today that they will announce another signing next week.
Any suggestions??
Perhaps Tegan cunningham or Kelly bowan returning from last season?
Standish to Perth according to pick and roll.
Melbourne need another big. Maybe greaves, Roberts, Thompson, penaluna?
Maybe even a coe kid.
Melb Fan
Years ago
The Boomers definitely need backup in the 4 & 5, and a lesser extent the 3 as well. IMO I don't think they'll be re-signing any more of their 16/17 list, but I'd be happy for Bowen and Cunningham to come back on board. Liv Thompson is another who I'd like to fit back in, although her being a SA girl could mean she's been targeted by the Lightning.
Imo it's probably penaluna or maybe even Magbegor.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Hopefully Penaluna, she seems to be going well in the SEABL. I just hope she can get her body right again! The Boomers also have Emma Nankervis in a development spot, she's a 6'3" forward, though she's probably not ready to be the first backup.
Anonymous
Years ago
Who's left from the Boomers 16/17 list ?
Don't boomers have bigs- Cambage, Tomlinson, Jenna ohea could possible slip into the 4, being a versatile player. Or would teams go with 3 or 4 bigs ?
Smart
Cole
Garrick
Ohea
Cambage
Helps open up Cambage in the middle with 3 point shooters all around.
Melb Fan
Years ago
I'm just suggesting the Boomers go for more bigs because they already a plethora of capable backup guards, they don't have any bench back up whatsoever as of yet for the 4 or 5 spots - Cambage and Tomlinson will inevitably need a rest (or come off due to foul trouble).
From the Boomers 16/17 list there's Bowen, Cunningham, Bygate, Thompson, Penaluna, Black, Keane and Kasey Burton left on the FA list, with Kunek off to Perth.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Agreed on Roberts, she really stepped up toward the second half of Adelaide's season. I'd be very surprised if she couldn't find a home this offseason.
Anonymous
Years ago
Good point Melb Fan, maybe an import to fill the 4/5 spot but who would know with the money they have already spent, who can they afford that is good enough to fill the spot.
Bowen, Cunningham and Burton potentially affordable in the 3 spot if they sign 12 players.
Anonymous
Years ago
Roberts is playing great basketball in seabl surely Adelaide or even Bendigo might pick her up!!
That's why Magbegor would be good fit. I think she finishes school this year?
Little to no cost and would hold her own against many other front court players.
Another step up from seabl.
A few girls in the qbl like Farley, karitiana, mate etc might find there way onto rosters.
Cochrane is playing the long game, people forget she was only 15 when she won gold with the Sapphires last year. I'm guessing if she was going to sign anywhere it would involve Chambers who was her high school coach.
Like Magbegor, the big US colleges are where I would expect to see them first getting a free education, seeing the world and developing their game. Plenty of time later for WNBL.
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
I've been thinking about that mystery big player that's meant to be signing so went to cross-check the Olympics squads on wikipedia. There's not a lot of players who "three time Olympian" and not from Australia can be. There's only 6 other countries of the last 4 olympics that fulfil that criteria (USA, Russia, Spain, Czech Rep, Brazil, China) to begin with.
From those that I can see that have played 3 Olympics and think aren't retired:
Siemone Augustus - USA - 33, WNBA
Sylvia Fowles - USA - 31, WNBA
Laia Palau - ESP - 37, CZE/EuroLeague
Lucila Pascua - ESP - 34, Spain
Erika de Souza - BRA - 35, WNBA
Kelly Santos - BRA - 37, Brazil
Irina Osipova - RUS - 34, Russia
Petra Kulichova - CZE - 32, Turkey
Interestingly 5 players have played 4 Olympics (Taurusi, Bird, Catchings, Moises Pinto, Chen Nan).
I don't think it's any of the WNBA players. I would guess it is one of Pascua, Kulichova or maybe Osipova.
Anonymous
Years ago
It's Palau! She's said on a heap of occasions that she'd be playing in the WNBL next season, clearly someone has signed her!
Anonymous
Years ago
No she's a PG, but no one ever said the triple Olympian was a big. She's the one who has signed to play in the WNBL though.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Nathan Strempel (the man who made the initial tweet) favourited two tweets, one questioning whether the player in question was signing to Dandenong - he MC's there, and the second was asking if it was Palau. Putting two and two together, I'd say it's Palau to Dandenong.
If that's the case I'm quite surprised to be honest, considering they just lured Lavey back from Perth..
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Oh I would have thought Palau would be to good for this league seeing as she led EuroLeague in assists so still got it. Huge signing.
Agree it's weird if Dandenong. Lavey leaves a comfortable gig and captaincy to ride the pine?
Anonymous
Years ago
Roberts won't be going back to Adelaide. Bendigo might be a good spot for her. Strong bigs are going to be a valuable commodity this coming season.
Anon
Years ago
If it's Dandenong then some serious questions should be asked re their rational, if it Palau she's 37 ....they already have Lavey and literally just signed Toddhunter,
She announced her retirement from the Spanish national team stating the tryouts had given her concerns ""The selection [national team], which has been part of my life for many years, is something that has generated many doubts this year."
And from Euro League followed by this info
"She is currently eyeing up teams in Australia, with Sydney and Melbourne the most likely destinations if she opts to play another year."
Can players get out of contracts if the club recruits over them?
If it's true she's going to Dandenong I'd be seeing red if I was Lavey and Toddhunter.
I'd wager Palau to Boomers. I believe she played with LJ in Spain, which is probably the connection to getting her to Melbourne.
Ah The Lucas effect not many young ones want to stay playing under him. He is a very unusual man / coach and that is the nicest way I can put it.
Anonymous
Years ago
Don't be surprised if she has signed to play with her ex-teammate Belinda Snell as a back up to Tupaea.
Will be interesting to see who the Boomers sign up to the remaining spots. I'm assuming Kelly Bowen would be a certainty, given she's probably the only bench player with legitimate 3 point range.
Liv Thompson improved out of sight last season, so to not sign her again this season would seem ludicrous. Surely there's much better options than Bygate? Cunningham, while she doesn't have great shooting range, would be a handy bench player, and provide good depth at the 3 and possibly 4 on occasions.
Thompson did not improve out of sight last season she just bounced back slightly after a bad previous season
Not to be pedantic, but when you have a better season than before, then that's an improvement.
not to be pedantic but there was no disputing of the improvement. a player improving out of sight implies more than just having a season that is middle of the road by their own standards, no?
Thompson will no doubt sign with Adelaide, no secret she wants to be closer to home. Will probably come off the bench though, not sure she will like that.
Melb Fan
Years ago
"Boti Nagy
@boti_nagy
Betnijah Laney is a huge pickup for @BendigoSpirit. Quality player and @WNBL star. Bet they're not bent with her at 3, @Griffinkelsey23 at 4"
Massive get for Bendigo, she averaged 15.2ppg & 7.8 boards for Perth in 15/16!
Now they can re-sign Burke to at C!
Or as Melbournians like to call it, the DJ spot.
James Harvey fan
Years ago
Good signing. I was worried Bendigo would lag behind, they have only signed a couple of players.
Anon
Years ago
That's great for Zitina - she is soo athletic !! I wonder why she didn't choose the college pathway ?
Luuuc
Years ago
Great to see Laney back in the WNBL. Wish it was back in Perth :(
Bendigo are going to want to make sure they add some guards who can hit the 3.
Boti's story on Hodges was interesting. I guess once Lucas signed Bishop there was no chance Laura was going to play backup. And with coaches reputation in regard to young players and not developing them backup players will be hard to find.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Great to see Aokuso getting a gig, how great of her to be able to work with Suzy and Cayla! She could well still be off to college if she has signed an amateur contract like Conti / Bibby have which will allow her to still be eligible. The article implies she finishes high school at the end of this year so there's plenty of time to play the full WNBL season and then head to college in July or whenever they head over.
Aokuso a really nice pickup for Townsville.
It's Magbegors last year also?
Where would she go if that's the case?
Melbourne perhaps?
Anonymous
Years ago
Boti on Lucas:
"Anyone who knows Chris is well aware he always is at pains to do "the right thing".
Hmmm some would disagree.
Townsville article says Aokuso chose to stay and play wnbl over college.
Not sure she had the academic options to head to the US, and that window is now closing for her.
Rowe, Pizzi, Rocci, Aokuso all finished year 12 in 2016 so were given an extension in Canberra through to worlds.
For various reasons none are off to college.
Magbegor is in year 12 this year in Canberra, could theoretically play WNBL there after worlds if BA allowed it. Then she is off to college as a class of 18 student.
Wheres Rocci going?
98-Rocci
99-Cubillo, Simmons, Mole, Magbegor
00-Shelley, Simons, Clarke, Bourne
Wnbl-Rowe, Pizzey, Aokuso
So 5 new kids will join COE.
Looks like mainly post players are needed.
lookingforward
Years ago
If Palau has signed for the WNBL that is a huge plus for the league. She is still getting great stats in the Euroleague, lead assists last season.
The experience and leadership she will bring to a WNBL team will be priceless.
If Dandy have signed her, Larissa has showed a lot of forward thinking that will develop the younger players in the team. You do not go to multible Olympics representing Spain, and not have plenty to offer younger players in a team. Depth is what wins championships, and Dandy look to be heading in that direction.
Big surprise there moving away, but she doesn't like Lucas from her time in Townsville.
I think this is a great pick up for Perth she is super athletic and still has an enormous upside.
Anon
Years ago
Looking forward........what young guards, Toddhunter is almost 30, Cummings late twenties, and Lavey 24 and already a seasoned Opal, she's a PG not a big, who's she going to develop, Dandenong have yet to sign any young guards that would benefit from any of her experience .
I'd say Antoniadou would be the new up and coming guard for Dandenong.
Rocci could be with an wnbl team also.
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Years ago
^ Palau and Purcell 2 excellent signings for the league
Luuuc
Years ago
They sure are. Loving the influx of talent this season.
(need more teams!)
Anon
Years ago
Anyone know the legitimacy behind the Kayla Standish move to the Lynx?
Pick and Roll have it on their Tracker, and they're usually pretty reliable.
If it's true then Perth are looking a lot better than two weeks ago!
Anonymous
Years ago
It will be interesting to see who Dandenong play at the SG position when Cumming is off the floor. Palau and Toddhunter aren't combo guards.
lookingforward
Years ago
anon138 look beyond the actual WNBL team to the club as a whole.
Anon
Years ago
The club as a whole isn't usually involved with the wnbl players at all, unless it's via holiday camps and thats usually the bottom end of the roster helping out, not a lot of influence in those short periods.
Yes 1441 Antoniadou would be the next guard for Dandenong to really develop now that Clydesdale is gone if she resigns at least she's been a Dandenong junior too, forgot about her
Certainly some interesting and different line ups for all teams this coming season, hope it's a good thing being as it will be televised finally after three years with no promotion,
Luuuc
Years ago
"Anyone know the legitimacy behind the Kayla Standish move to the Lynx?"
I think that one is legit.
I'd say the Young guards in development will be.
Boomers-Conti
Rangers-Antoniadou
Spirit-Tessari
Lightning-Elsworthy
Lynx-Fejo
Fire-Andrews
Flames-McLean
Capitals-Bourne
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Having a look at PnR tracker's didn't realise Perth re-signed Burton/Grant/Phillips already.
Still think they're short two starts.
???-Whitcomb-Kunek-Standish-???
Edmondson///Thompson///Burton
Phillips///Grant
Should be competitive if they can get two good players to fill that role but going to be hard this year with Adelaide/Dandenong/Melbourne/Sydney/Townsville all looking very good
Luuuc
Years ago
"didn't realise Perth re-signed Burton/Grant/Phillips already."
Neither did I. It's definitely not official.
You're correct about those two crucial ??? starting spots if the Lynx want to compete with the many legit finals contenders.
Anon
Years ago
Don't think they javevsigned them yet that's just Pickandrolls predictions.
But happy to stand corrected if it's official via Lynx
LC
Years ago
There are no predictions on the PnR tracker. We update it once we know the transaction is happening/happened.
The Fire have signed Sydney Wiese. That will help them spread the floor with Murray on one side, Wiese on the other, and Batgirl and George working the paint.
Anon
Years ago
Looks like Adelaide, Dandenong, Melbourne and Townsville are almost done with some work still do for Bendigo, Canberra and Perth. There's some stacked rosters in the WNBL this season.
Adelaide: Clydesdale, Seekamp, Novosel, Bishop, Hamblin, Elsworthy, Nicholson, Brook.
Bendigo: Laney, Griffin, Payne.
Canberra: Wherung, Froling, Jarry, Hooper, Scherf.
Dandenong: Lavey, Cumming, Blicavs, Mijovic, Pedersen, Toddhunter, Palau, Rowe, Pizzey.
Melbourne: Cole, Garrick, O'Hea, Tomlinson, Cambage, Smart, Conti, Purcell, Ott.
Perth: Edmonson, Whitcomb, Kunek, Thompson.
Sydney: Tupaea, Ebzery, Snell, Greaves, Hamson, Wilson, McSpadden.
Townsville: Wilson, Wiese, Murray, George, Batkovic, Cocks, Whittle, Garbin, Aokuso.
Breakers2Lynx2Waves2Lynx
Years ago
If PandR's list is correct, then one of those two spare Lynx spots will be filled by an import, a PG you would assume. They are starting to look like this...
C - Burton
PF - Standish (import)
SF - Kunek
SG - Whitcomb
PG - Import
F - ?????
F - Thompson
F - Grant
GF - Edmondson
G - Phillips
What's the chances that bench forward spot could be filled by either Hodges or Boag.
And there's also Tahlia Fejo and Kisha Lee playing well in the SBL. I wonder what's happening with them.
Luuuc
Years ago
Standish is an aussie permanent resident, so the Lynx can potentially still add 2 imports.
(she got it part way through last season, which is what allowed the Fire to add Amy Kame to their roster)
So fingers crossed for imports at the 1 & 5.
Boag would be a nice addition, but if it's true that Grant & Burton are both signed then I don't know that there's a spot for her unless we're not going with an import in the front court.
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
I'm being imitated. That's awesome haha.
There has to be another import centre to replace Hamblin. Grant and maybe Burton when going small are the only ones they have that can play there.
I like Burton (Rio was all on the coach) but she really should be suited to 15 mins or so off the bench covering Standish etc.
Any thought on last years Adelaide girls, Alex cibatonni, Jess Good, Ieva Nagy, Jordan hunter, Shannon McKay, Taylor Roberts, opal Maden, Taylor Corrigan, mollie mckendrick?
Roberts should get a gig maybe Perth. Good probably Bendigo not sure about cibatoni. The rest probably not. A lot of players that have been lucky enough to make up the numbers are going to miss out this year. League has become too strong
Breakers2Lynx2Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Standish confirmed at the Lynx.
C - Import
PF - Standish
SF - Kunek
SG - Whitcomb
PG - Import
C - Burton
F - Thompson
F - Grant
G - Edmondson
G - Phillips
If they get their imports right, that's a solid line-up and should have them in the upper half of the ladder again.
Players that consistently produce need to
Be picked
Breakers2Lynx2Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Anonymous #637388 - Great insight, thanks for that!!!
Melb Fan
Years ago
It'll be interesting to see who the Lynx get as their imports. It seems like they're going for a more athletic lineup, so perhaps they'll go down the route of a smaller and more agile C like it seems Dandenong will be doing with Pedersen, as opposed to getting a giant like a Cambage/Hamson/Hamblin.
In other news, Canberra have re-signed Kate Gaze.
Spot on Melb Fan it does seem they are going athletic. Coach has even referred to the teams up tempo style
Melb Fan
Years ago
Someone like Ramu Tokashiki seems like a realistic target for the Lynx to sign IMO - athletic and probably big enough to hold her own in the 5, plus she'd already have the chemistry with Whitcomb.
Hey breaker moron. If you read the comment.
It states players who always preform
Well are not always picked. Glad to explain.
Wow anon you have me confused now. Not sure what you are saying??
I think anon has no idea himself what he is saying. lol
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Yes, Perth's imports will be import. Especially as they are basically relying on Whitcomb now.
Luuuc
Years ago
Yeah, we have some depth now but it will still take a couple of quality imports to put us into the playoffs, and I'd be surprised if that happened. Hopefully I'm wrong, but it seems like our roster budget is trending in the downward direction based on what we did from year 1 to year 2.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Nat Hurst has officially signed with Canberra http://wnbl.com.au/seven-time-wnbl-champ-nat-hurst-returns-caps/
IMO Canberra are quietly building a very solid roster - all the talk has been about Melbourne but I think the Caps are looking really good already with a few gaps still to fill in that starting lineup.
Hurst signing suggests to me that Mansfield won't return.. I'd see Bendigo as a good suitor for her if she's going to stay in the WNBL. They desperately need a good point guard as it's unlikely Harrington will return after signing up to play AFLW.
Luuuc
Years ago
^ That's exactly the question that came to my mind as well when the Hurst signing (nice pickup for the Caps) was announced. Hope so!
Bendigo need guards too
So Canberra now has:
Hurst
Wehrung
Gaze
Hooper
Jarry
Froling
Scherf
Certainly forming a competitive team, but not up there with the powerhouses just yet.
Anonymous
Years ago
Canberra Times story on Nat Hurst says Mansfield is going to Europe. I believe Tolo & Ruef are going there too. Canberra with a brand new starting five next season.
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Mansfield could be great but seems to be no budget to sign top players. Maybe all that's left is Burton, bench depth and a C import. Then just relying on Edmondson to play a "Give it to Sam" point game.
Which local talent remains unsigned who has the potential to be a rotation player? That well appears dry.
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Perth's local talent from last season remain unsigned, so I assume that is who the Anon was referring to. Fejo/Lee/Phillips/Grant
Assumption is that some of those are coming back, but nothing official yet.
very old
Years ago
Canberra has basically no local talent, rarely ever has ( Hurst and Lacey were probably the best they have had in the last 15 years) and probably never will have any local players get anywhere, given both of them had to leave to develop to (and over) competent WNBL standard. Hurst signed as she was going to be living in Canberra for the next year in anycase, no real cheque book or long term recruiting plan there..
LC
Years ago
Fresh off a ground-breaking 2017 WNBL Championship with the Sydney Uni Flames and currently playing for the Phoenix Mercury in the WNBA, Leilani Mitchell has signed to play the 2017-18 season with Turkish EuroLeague side Hatay.
Leilani Mitchell to play in Europe, signs with Hatay
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
I enjoy articles and information the site provides but sorry, PnR site layout at the moment is awful to try and read.
Main content squeezed into a narrow field, whilst a header takes up 1/3 of the screen at all times is not an effective use of space.
James Harvey fan
Years ago
Rachel Banhan to Bendigo! The talent keeps coming
Melb Fan
Years ago
This season is going to be insanely good - and there's still 5 more import spots available to fill! Can October hurry up please! Hopefully the fixture will be released soon (iirc I read somewhere that it will be released within the next few weeks)
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Wow. Great signing.
Perth is really being left behind right now with just Farnworth at the point.
Anon
Years ago
Perth will have an import PG.
Question is who will be the backup? Will Phillips return seeing she's now back in Melbourne playing SEABL?
Tahlia Fejo is putting up good numbers in the WSBL.
Maybe they might even lure back Shani Amos who I thought more than held her own with Perth in 2014/2015.
Breakers
Years ago
'Pick & Roll' have Nat Burton, Ash Grant and Tenaya Phillips as 'Contracted'.
Can anyone from P&R confirm this, and let us know how they come across this?
Anon
Years ago
Both Pick&Roll and Hoopshots have good WNBL off-season trackers. However one of them has those three players as 'contracted' and the other one has them as 'free agents'. So one website is right and one is wrong. Who do you believe?
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Years ago
harvey fan - is that Banham from WNBA Conn Sun - shot 60 points in a college game ?
If it is what a great signing
Luuuc
Years ago
That's the one. Heck of a college player, but is yet to translate it to the WNBA.
The WNBL seems a great fit for someone in her situation. Very nice signing.
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
The difference between PnR and HH looks like the latter is only listing official signings. It's handy that they provide links/sources.
I don't think there has been any news on re-signed player for Perth, just the 5 current signings atm (Farnworth/Whitcomb/Kunek/Thompson/Standish).
Reading their off-season wraps, the players mentioned there are Fejo/Grant/Lee/Burton that haven't re-signed, but no Phillips. So I think that suggests she's unlikely to come back but very likely most of the other four do.
Very light looking squad for Australia's "first" pro women's team.
Melb Fan
Years ago
I really like the Lynx's weekly updates on their players around the state leagues / WNBA. I think it's a great idea to generate a bit of interest on their players in the offseason and the state leagues in general. Hopefully the other teams follow suit, it'd be really nice to be able to track all the players' offseason stats etc without having to trawl the various league pages to find who plays where and when.
Luuuc
Years ago
The big signings keep coming!
Laura Hodges signs with the Lightning.
http://www.botinagy.com/blog/laura-back-for-lightning/
They should be aiming for a top 2 spot this season.
Melb Fan
Years ago
I wonder if they'll move Hodges into the starting SF spot.. Clydesdale-Seekamp-Hodges-Bishop-Hamblin certainly does look like a very good starting 5 on paper. If not, well what a player to have coming off your bench!
Melb Fan
Years ago
Also a little bit of news on WNBL imports in the WNBA for those interested;
- Jordan Hooper (Canberra) has been traded from Connecticut to Atlanta
- Kayla Pedersen (Dandenong) has been signed by Connecticut.
Luuuc
Years ago
Banham played a nice little cameo for any Spirit fans that tuned in :)
Any chance someone picks up Stacey Barr? Been putting up huge numbers in the WA SBL.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Barr's been re-signed to play AFLW with Fremantle next year - though I suppose the earlier finish date for the WNBL could mean that if she chose to / Freo allowed her, she could play both.
Re Stacey Barr, she is a volume shooter 38% and 28% form 3 pt land, seems to shoot from as far out as Steph Curry! 2.2 A v 3.3 TOs per game, I would not want to be a teammate!
No, neither would I. I just thought I would ask the question.
I am not connected to Willeton but just on the eye test her team mates look bored on offense
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
There's so much talent in the league next season. Going to be great. Almost makes you wish there's a couple more teams to spread the talent. For example some of those players who were thrown to the wolves in Adelaide last season aren't going to get any minutes or even a roster spot for all the hard work they did.
Maybe if the new TV deal helps with growth.
Yes it's such a shame for those girls, huge commitment for no reward. And those that may possibly get a roster spot, it's bum splinters all season for them. And that's a big IF
the new 'pay incentive'is also a huge stumbling block for those players out of the real development stage and no longer juniors, those 19 to 21 yr olds, who would have had a roster spot, but no or little pay, the new minimum pay for contracted players has placed teams in situations where they cannot afford to pay ALL ten/12 players, not if they need to pay big money to their imports and elite end talent, many of those good players that have been waiting their turn will have been cast aside, replaced by 'development" players that they do not have to pay that will fill those last four roster spots, that way their 7th and 8th players will be the ones getting that minimum wage, in theory it all sounded great, but in practice its going to decimate the league of succession planning.
they really haven't thought that through properly, and while clubs think they will solve that problem simply by eliminating those players and replacing with juniors, those same juniors will be in the exact same position in two years and it will start again, until all that will be left is geriatric players and young inexperienced ones. Without long term succession planning teams falter eventually.
absolutely no incentive for young players to stay with the game anymore...nice one WNBL team!!
Does then mean young girls can't play WNBl before heading to college?
They can't be paid.
they can play but not get paid, so it will be a continual revolving door, few will be developed to fill the league,meanwhile those players that have been training and developing in the league will just end up walking away most likely or going to AWFL as they are doing......
they should have made a mandate that ALL ten roster spots needed to be filled with paid players, not only would it strengthen each team, it would in the long term ensure continuity for the league....instead now you will just simply have half a dozen development players training against the rest of the team, great for the envelopment players going to college, but not great for the players they play against and certainly not building anything for the future
they can play but not get paid, so it will be a continual revolving door, few will be developed to fill the league,meanwhile those players that have been training and developing in the league will just end up walking away most likely or going to AWFL as they are doing......
they should have made a mandate that ALL ten roster spots needed to be filled with paid players, not only would it strengthen each team, it would in the long term ensure continuity for the league....instead now you will just simply have half a dozen development players training against the rest of the team, great for the envelopment players going to college, but not great for the players they play against and certainly not building anything for the future
I'd actually argue the opposite. My experience is "development players" are just cannon fodder at training. No real development being done, instead it is just and immense privilege to have to turn up to provide the real team someone to practice against.
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Years ago
adelaide with a front court of hamblin, bishop, hodges and planeta will be a very formidable line up. Good shooting guards as well = strong inside and out game. However the opponents are going to be just a as talented.
Absolutely no incentive for players to hang around in Australia or even in the sport really
LOL at wanting all ten players paid with minimum wage going up. WNBL doesn't have a bucketload of money so how can you expect that to occur.
Melb Fan
Years ago
IMO we will only see this problem with the players who in 16/17 would've filled the 7 onwards spots on the roster not getting a look in this season for this season only - and maybe the 19/20 season. I think a lot of the high end Australian players have come back for the WC next year, just like what happened in 15/16 before Rio.
Though in saying that I think the league should look to expand, definitely before 2020. We definitely have the talent to spread across one more team, and given that it seems imports want to come here, it shouldn't be too difficult to form a new competitive team.
On Adelaide and Planeta.. Is she actually able to return to Adelaide? Aren't Novosel and Hamblin both imports therefore she couldn't? Unless she or Novosel get permanent residency etc before the season.
novosel will have pr by start of season. planeta should too but is less certain thus why Sydney wiese signed w/ fire instead of original plan of going to lighting but expect lightning to get another import at some stage
Melb Fan
Years ago
Tayla Roberts has signed with Dandenong.
Good to hear both Novosel and Planeta are planning on getting their PRs, Adelaide with another import on top of the players they've already got looks very dangerous.
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
That's going to make Adelaide even more ridiculously stacked if Planeta can come in and not count as an import and they grab another.
How are they going to player all these girls? Max squad size is 10?
Can't see palenta coming back. Why would she, no court time in that team. By the way lovely rebuild with young SA talent. What a joke Lucas is talking that crap.
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Years ago
clydesdale/ elsworthy / seekamp
novosel / nicolson / seekamp
seekamp / nicolson
bishop / planeta / hodges
hamblin / bishop / hodges
looks like I'm off to a few Lightning games this season.
that's a good team
James Harvey fan
Years ago
Lucas can be a bit of an odd guy but he can claim some credit for giving the team an SA identity. Bishop, Hodges, Elsworthy, Brook, Seekamp all SA juniors. Probably a couple of DPs to come as well.
Not sure how he's going to spread those minutes through all those players who are all going to be wanting and expecting a lot of court time .... there is only one ball!!
From hoopshots these are the players un signed for the next season and the number of players that each team has already signed is next to team.
Adelaide (9 signed)
Unsigned below
Colleen Planeta*
Alex Ciabattoni
Jessica Good
Anne Hatchard
Jordan Hunter
Shannon McKay
Mollie McKendrick
Ieva Nagy
Bendigo (4 signed)
Unsigned below
Gabrielle Richards
Kerryn Harrington
Heather Oliver
Blake Dietrick*
Jane Chalmers
Ashleigh Karatiana
Molly Matthews
Ebony Rolph
Ashleigh Spencer
Andrea Wilson
Canberra (7 signed)
Unsigned below
Stephanie Bairstow
Mikaela Ruef*
Lauren Mansfield
Alice Coddington
Jazmon Gwathmey*
Janelle Adams
Maddison Allen
Callie Bourne
Isabelle Bourneberra
Dandenong (10 signed)
Unsigned below
Ally Malott*
Rosie Fadljevic
Rachel Antoniadou
Madeline Puli
Saraid Taylor
Briahna Whatman
Melbourne (9 signed)
Unsigned below
Kalisha Keane*
Elyse Penaluna
Tegan Cunningham
Kelly Bowen
Chante Black*
Kasey Burton
Jessica Bygate
Perth (5 signed)
Unsigned below
Brianna Butler*
Courtney Byrnes
Kisha Lee
Natalie Burton
Tahlia Fejo
Ashleigh Grant
Tenaya Phillips
Monica Wright*
Sydney (8 signed)
Unsigned below
Asia Taylor*
Sarah Graham
Christina Boag
Cassidy McLean
Haylee Moffat
Lauren Sparks
Susannah Walmsley
Townsville (9 signed)
Unsigned below
Amy Kame*
Natasha Cloud*
Haylee Andrews
Chevannah Paalvast
Ainsley Walsh
Jacqui Zelenka
Not many spots left in some teams and a lot of players to pick from
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Doesn't seem like Fejo is going anywhere, at least this season:
http://www.botinagy.com/blog/skys-the-limit-/
Anonymous
Years ago
Any player updates ?
On a side note - BoOmers to announce coaching staff tomorrow...
Anyone know who they are?
Head coach - Guy Molloy
Melb Fan
Years ago
Canberra have signed current COE and u19 Gems point guard Maddison Rocci.
Anon
Years ago
Boomers announced coaching staff.
Head coach- Guy Molloy
Assistant Coach- Katrina Hibbert
Assistant coach- Nicole Howard
Assistant coach- Paul Flynn
Great to see Paul Flynn stepping up into women's.
Only heard great things about him!
Only 1 spot left in their roster who's it gonna be ?
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
http://wnbl.com.au/melbourne_news/boomers-close-finalising-roster/
I didn't know you could have so many DP players. 15 is a large squad. Melbourne definitely one of the favourites
Melb Fan
Years ago
The final Boomers signing is 6'1 American forward Courtney Duever. She's currently playing BigV with Sunbury and averaging 23pts 11 boards and played college with Central Arkansas.
Last year it seemed the Boomers had 5-6 DPs as well, perhaps it's just that Victoria has a larger pool of high quality youth players to choose from? Although they do seem quite keen on developing local talent (i.e. their academy) so that could have something to do with it too. As far as I know there's no cap on development players?
3 dp players is a lot?
Each team should have 5 imo.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Agreed anonymous, especially considering the DP's are unpaid. It's probably important particularly for this season because most players still developing who would previously have filled spots 8/9/10 on the roster likely won't get a roster spot with the strength of the league.
Should be a wnbl/nbl youth league for u23s
Less college opportunities in the future as other. Foreign countries begin to send more to college.
Anon
Years ago
Why would the WNBL clubs want to run a youth league team? It's Basketball Australia's job to develop players, the WNBL is an elite league.
PlaymakerMo
Years ago
599, what's wrong with the more talented youngsters playing in the SEABL or their state league (if not college)?
A national youth league wouldn't be viable.
Plenty of college spots open to Aussies, especially after winning worlds last year.
Anonymous
Years ago
what about the girls that didn't go to college? So the girls born in 95/96/97 - These are the girls that would fill 11/12 rostered spot but because of the new minimum wage thing they won't be signed in the main squad as it'll cost them to much.
Therefore they will be known as development players.
PlaymakerMo
Years ago
...and then if they're good enough when they're older they will be signed to the roster, earn the minimum salary, and likely earn more than they would've as the 11th/12th player under the old pay rate.
koberulz
Years ago
Why would the WNBL clubs want to run a youth league team? It's Basketball Australia's job to develop players, the WNBL is an elite league.The WNBL can only exist if there are players to play in it.
Yep just like NBL the WNBL also is lacking a youth league.
Look at the young players in seabl. Barely get anytime if at all.
Anon
Years ago
They really didn't think this minimum wage crap through really, in theory it all sounds fabulous, till you begin to actually look at how it's going to work, clubs who have struggled with sponsorship before this are not suddenly going to be able to find the big $ .....so the choices they have are either pull out of the league all together, or limit the amount of paid players they actually have.....unless of course your melbourne boomers who a year before were so broke BA had to bail them out and all the other clubs subsidised them, and now this season they can afford the likes of Cambage and Ohea, and guaranteed the rest of those named players won't be playing for peanuts or Adelaide Lightening, who were given a sizeable sum to buy players.
It means the rest will be left with development players in those 7,8 9,10 spots, plus 11,12 will also be development, which sounds great till they are too old to be development players or get sick of sitting waiting their turn and they either don't get another spot or they walk away from the sport.
SEABL should be the development league for those younger players to actually put all that WNBL training into game time, but instead it's filled with starters from WNBL, Rangers are a prime example, the same guards who started WNBL running 35 mins a game are staring in SEABL running 38 mins most weeks, and the same guards that were sitting waiting on the bench in WNBL are sitting waiting behind those same players in SEABL.......how is that developing them to come through the WNBL ranks......answer is "it's not".... where is the succession planning.
Their should be a rule that starters in WNBL either don't play SEABL or their minutes must be limited to,allow for game development of these younger players, or the league will just end up filled with old used up players.
There is absolutely no incentive for these players to either stay in Australia or even keep playing, and what incentive does that then give to the even more junior players aspiring to get to that elite level.
Absolutely no future planning was put into this idea at all.
PlaymakerMo
Years ago
"Look at the young players in seabl. Barely get anytime if at all."
Then chances are they aren't good enough and could always play in a state league...
"It means the rest will be left with development players in those 7,8 9,10 spots, plus 11,12 will also be development, which sounds great till they are too old to be development players or get sick of sitting waiting their turn and they either don't get another spot or they walk away from the sport."
Your point about the 7-10 spots is unfounded. Otherwise, what you're basically describing is the nature of competition.
I agree with Anon 616 that it's highly questionable whether WNBL clubs can afford the minimum salary in the medium-term. In that case: how could they afford to finance a national youth league? How much should they be payed to be under/unemployed and (for most) not make it to the WNBL?
Makes no sense whatsoever.
Anon
Years ago
Koberulz: The WNBL has existed for 35 years without a Youth League. I think they will be fine finding players without creating one.
"Look at the young players in seabl. Barely get anytime if at all."
Then chances are they aren't good enough and could always play in a state league..
Disagree totally here , it depends on the strength of the actual team, many even in WNBL who are bench players in one team could and would be a starter in another
Tessa Lavey is the perfect example ... she couldn't get off the Brnch at Bendigo , Joyce decided she was his next project and actually gave her the opportunity to play... the rest as they say is history
How many players are sitting on benches behind players that are getting old and worn outt,, that if given the opportunity they will would stand out in a game
You see it at trainings Frequently ,the starting group getting their butts whipped by the bench players , but because of who the starters are those bench players continue to get splinters
Your only ever as good as what you train against so they say ..... the league should use SEABL as their development league and put a stop to those starters playing in that lower league
They would get the best of both world , their development players would actually be receiving court time and their starters would not be wearing their bodies out playing back to back seasons so Less injury prone during the wnbl season
Plus those development players would actually be less inclined to walk away from the game
Melb Fan
Years ago
I understand why the younger players should be getting bigger minutes at SEABL level, however I also think that the WNBL starters do need to play as well. Given the amount most of those women are being paid they probably need the salary they receive from SEABL etc in order to actually stay full time athletes. It'd also keep them in good touch for Opals opportunities because most of the national duties are during the WNBL off season. I think the system could be better set out, but at the moment it is what it is..
IMO 99% of the time, if the players aren't ready to be playing a role in SEABL, get a DP/roster spot or a college offer by the time they graduate high school, they probably won't ever be at the level to be a consistent starter or major role player in the WNBL. Therefore they'd just be constantly replaced by the next batch of players who could play the same minor minutes.
From a purely outsider perspective, I think it would be valuable to have the COE back in the WNBL just to fast track the development of the higher end youth players. Even though they were more often than not an easy beat for the other teams, many of the former AIS players stepped almost straight into starting lineups or major bench roles - i.e. Cambage, Jarry, Madgen, Allen, Blicavs, and Thompson to name a few.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Bendigo have re-signed Kara Tessari.
Still nothing out of Perth.. Hopefully they have some good imports up their sleeves and are saving the best til last!
Melb Fan
Years ago
Townsville have re-signed Haylee Andrews as a DP and added Miela Goodchild as a DP - she was a guard in last year's u17 world championship winning team.
Surely an announcement re fixtures will be in the next week or two as the NBL have just announced theirs.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Marianna Tolo has also as expected signed with a European side - Turkish & Euro League team Bellona AGU.
Anon
Years ago
Bendigo have re-signed Ashleigh Spencer
http://wnbl.com.au/bendigo_news/splash-makes-waves/
Luuuc
Years ago
Ezi Magbegor signs with the Caps
http://wnbl.com.au/uc-capitals-name-ezi-magbegor-one-year-deal/
I have been told that its now compulsory for all WNBL teams to have a current member of the GEMS un19 team on their roster...anyone know if this is true?
Dandenong-Pizzey, Rowe
Canberra-Magbegor, Rocci
Townsville-Aokuso
Sydney-Mcspadden
Melbourne-Conti
Shelley, Simons, Cubillo
Bibby, maley college bound
No gems
Adelaide
Perth
Bendigo
Magbegor and Scherf. 2 future opals. Will they play beside each other?
Anon
Years ago
Adelaide have signed 9 players with Planetta rumoured to be the 10th. There's no chance they take a Gems player.
Shelley at Bendigo and Simons at Adelaide as dps would be good.
Any announcement on who's new at COE. So many people have left but only 2 new girls in. Who are the other 4-5
Mistie Bass rumoured from Boti Nagy to be the Caps import.
Simmons is still injured, but has signed with Oregon State for 2018.
Magbegor can play for Caps while she finishes year 12 in Canberra, then will be off to college in 2018 - has not nominated which school yet.
Simons finishes year 12 this year also.
Shelley in year 11, so another year yet in Canberra after this one.
Rocci ineligible for college so available to any team unless she's received another extension in Canberra.
Anon
Years ago
If they are at the COE and still attending g school, doubt very much they will p,at WNBL unless for Canberra, Shelley and Simmons are still school age, the rest have finished yr 12 .
So I would say it's true re having an un19 gem in a WNBL side, those that don't, don't have any players left to take as they are off to college this year.
Um, yeh, it was a joke I think you may find.
Of those whose year it is, the 3 strongest are off to college - Maley, Bibby and dare I say it Horvat. There wasn't a lot of interest from good schools for the others which Is why they're on the fringes of WNBL rosters.
Did aokuso not qualify for college?
Thought she would be wanted by high majors.
"Mistie Bass rumoured from Boti Nagy to be the Caps import."
Surely they aren't that hard up for an import?
Melb Fan
Years ago
For those interested I've compiled a list of stats from each officially announced signed player who has played over the past week to see how they're all going. I might keep doing it if I can be bothered/ have time when uni goes back, but nonetheless it's an interesting read on form.
Adelaide:
Aimie Clydesdale (SEABL) 30.23 mins: 11 pts, 3 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl
Lauren Nicholson (SEABL) 36.23 mins: 22 pts, 10 reb, 3 ast
Chelsea Brook (Premier League) 25 mins: 9 pts, 3 reb, 1 ast, 1 blk
& 24 min: 7 pts, 7 reb, 3 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk
Sarah Elsworthy (Premier League) 19 mins: 15 pts, 2 reb, 3 ast, 3 stl
& 34 mins: 15 pts, 10 reb, 9 ast, 2 stl
Bendigo:
Rachel Banham (WNBA) 15.58 mins: 9 pts, 4 reb, 2 ast
Ashleigh Spencer (SEABL) 38.34 mins: 19 pts, 4 reb, 5 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk
Nadeen Payne (QBL) 33.06 mins: 20 pts, 14 reb, 3 ast
Canberra:
Jordan Hooper (WNBA) 9.06 min: 13 pts,
& 13.41 mins: 6 pts, 2 reb, 1 ast
& 5.27 mins: 1 ast, 1 stl
Lauren Scherf (SEABL) 34.45 mins: 16 pts, 14 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk
Keely Froling (SEABL) 40 mins: 13 pts, 10 reb, 3 ast, 1 stl
Kate Gaze (QBL) 31.13mins: 19 pts, 6 reb, 3 ast, 1 stl
& 38.50 mins: 28 pts, 3 reb, 3 ast, 2 stl
Dandenong:
Kayla Pedersen (WNBA) 12.11 mins: 2 pts, 3 reb, 1 stl
& 16.30 mins: 4 pts, 5 reb
Sara Blicavs (SEABL) 40 mins: 25 pts, 12 reb, 3 ast
Carley Mijovic (SEABL) 32.18 mins: 29 pts, 7 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl, 2 blk
& 31.55 mins: 15 pts, 8 reb, 5 ast, 1 blk
Amelia Todhunter (SEABL) 25.17 mins: 2 pts, 7 reb, 4 ast, 1 stl
Tayla Roberts (SEABL) 36.45 mins: 23 pts, 8 reb, 4 ast
Melbourne:
Kalani Purcell (NZ Tall Ferns) 27.22 mins: 1 pt, 10 rebs, 4 ast, 5 stl, 2 blk
& 30.28 mins: 8 pts, 12 reb, 3 ast, 2 stl
& 32.17 mins: 18 pts, 12 reb, 1 ast, 2 stl, 1 blk
& 31.34 mins: 5 pts, 6 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl
Rebecca Ott (NZ Tall Ferns) 14,48 mins: 6 pts, 4 reb, 1 ast
& 10.28 mins: 4 pts, 1 reb
& 14.17 mins: 3 reb
& 21.33 mins: 5 pts, 7 reb, 2 ast, 1 stl
Monique Conti (SEABL) 34.01 mins: 22 pts, 4 reb, 9 ast, 3 stl
Louella Tomlinson (SEABL) 39.07 mins: 18 pts, 6 reb, 5 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk
Bec Cole (Big V) 32.17 mins: 13 pts, 7 reb, 2 ast, 3 stl, 1 blk
& 38.24 mins: 10 pts, 4 reb, 6 ast
Courtney Duever (BigV) 37.03 mins: 22 pts, 8 reb, 1 ast, 5 stl, 2 blk
Perth:
Sami Whitcomb (WNBA) 18.34 mins: 13 pts, 1 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl
& 13 mins
Toni Farnworth (NZ Tall Ferns) 21.46 mins: 7 pts, 3 reb, 4 ast, 5 stl
& 28.02 mins: 16 pts, 4 reb, 2 ast
& 28.26 mins: 9 reb, 3 ast, 2 stl
& 30.17 mins: 13 pts, 7 reb, 3 ast
Alice Kunek (BigV) 32.26 mins: 25 pts, 6 reb, 4 ast, 2 stl
& 33.36 mins: 37 pts, 10 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk
Olivia Thompson (Premier League) 40 mins: 22 pts, 8 reb, 1 ast,
& 36 mins: 27 pts, 9 reb, 1 ast, 3 stl, 2 blks
Sydney:
Shanae Greaves (SEABL) 19.56 mins: 4 pts, 8 reb, 1 ast, 2 stl, 1 blk
Lara McSpadden (SEABL) 19.50 mins: 10 pts, 5 reb, 1 ast
Ally Wilson (Premier League) 36 mins: 24 pts, 10 reb, 9 ast, 1stl
& 36 mins: 32 pts, 10 reb, 4 ast, 3 stl
Belinda Snell (Waratah) 40 mins: 24 pts, 14 reb, 6 ast, 4 blk
Townsville:
Sydney Wiese (WNBA) 2.45 mins: 1 reb
& 5.10 mins: 1 reb
Cayla George (WNBA) 1.43 mins
& 1.17 mins
Micaela Cocks (NZ Tall Ferns) 27.33 mins: 21 pts, 5 reb, 2 ast, 1 stl
& 33.41 mins: 9 pts, 4 reb, 2 ast
& 36.09 mins: 16 pts, 5 reb, 2 ast, 1 stl
& 28.52 mins: 27 pts, 5 reb, 2 ast, 1 stl
Marena Whittle (SEABL) 36.25 mins: 9 pts, 4 reb, 2 ast, 2 stl
Mia Murray (QBL) 34.27 mins: 21 pts, 7 reb, 4 ast, 2 stl, 1 blk
Darcee Garbin (QBL) 30.52 mins: 19 pts, 6 reb, 2 ast, 2 stl, 2 blk
Suzy Batkovic (Waratah) 37.51 mins: 30 pts, 15 reb, 4 ast, 2 stl, 3 blk
Danny Green
Years ago
In this article, Andy Stewart says Perth are zeroing in on "a pair of high quality imports"
Hope so, they are behind the other sides at the moment.
http://www.perthlynx.com/Media/News/versatility-athleticism-the-key-says-stewart
Melb Fan
Years ago
I don't think all you Perth fans will have much to worry about if your imports really are high calibre as the coach claims.. You'll have Sami who will have developed so much with Seattle and it seems like Farnworth, Kunek and Thompson are in red hot form so they should come in with plenty of confidence too.
Luuuc
Years ago
We'll see.
The bar has been raised this season all over the league, so staying put is actually going backwards.
If our imports are actually good then yes, this could still be a competitive team. We've left ourselves possibly the toughest positions to recruit though with our starting 1 & 5 spots still to be filled.
Andy will also need to turn around a couple of patchy players in Kunek & Thompson and turn them into the consistent performers they're capable of being. His track record in that department is pretty good so far, so fingers crossed.
Melb Fan
Years ago
I reckon Elyse Penaluna would be a good fit for Perth given the type of player they're after - I know she's back playing SEABL with Melbourne. While I personally haven't seen her play, if she's even half the player athletically as she was pre-knee problems I think she'd be a great addition for any team coming off the bench. I hope there's a team out there willing to roll the dice on her.
Think the problem Perth might face this season will be the me players they already have , kunek and whitcomb are both very ball hungry
Hopefully they can get some decent team players on the roster
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Whoa, impressive work, Melb fan!
Of course Andy would talk up any player they're getting. Not like he'd say they're average. It's good though that they're aiming for two imports though. Need that quality desperately.
Lukosius
Years ago
This was an interesting comment....
"Travelling to the eastern states in the coming weeks, Stewart is set to work through a shortlist of players to fill the three remaining unrestricted roster spots."
Does that mean the following aren't coming back?
Burton
Phillips
Grant
Fejo
Lee
Pick&Roll have those first three players as "Signed" which obviously isn't correct.
Will be very disappointing if there is no WA players in that team.
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Yeah it's weird, I don't think they are all coming back. All but Burton have stopped being mentioned in the off season wraps too. That's a lot of talent left in the state league.
She shouldn't be anywhere near the Opals but I like Burton, she's been been in Perth for ages and with so many big outs she is definitely needed in the locker room. Disappointing if they can't re-sign her.
Anonymous
Years ago
Bendigo has announced the return of Heather Oliver as their 8th signing today.
Luuuc
Years ago
Does that mean the following aren't coming back?
Burton
Phillips
Grant
Fejo
Lee
Melb Fan
Years ago
iirc Fejo is injured, as was Phillips - though I'm not sure if she's back playing now. That's a massive list turnover though if there will only be 2 returning players.
Anon
Years ago
Phillips playing for Frankston in SEABL, wouldn't surprise me if Bendigo have picked her up but if not she will be back to Perth. No spots in Dandenong or Boomers for her to stay in her home state.
When is the fixture coming out?
Melb Fan
Years ago
IMO if Phillips were to sign with Bendigo, she would just about be in their starting lineup given their lack of guards - should Harrington not return.
I think 2 or so weeks ago they said the fixture would be a few weeks away, so hopefully it gets announced this upcoming week.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Some pretty neat stat lines coming out of last week for the WNBL players, and quite a few international representatives playing well for their respective teams. Surprisingly this list is very quick to compile when you already have a list of players who play in each league.
Adelaide:
Aimie Clydesdale (SEABL) 22.37 mins: 5 pts, 3 reb, 4 ast
& 12.34 mins: 12 pts, 1 reb, 3 ast, 1 stl
Lauren Nicholson (SEABL) 35.32 mins: 10 pts, 9 reb, 3 ast, 1 stl
Chelsea Brook (Premier League) 19 mins: 11 pts, 3 reb, 1 blk
Sarah Elsworthy (Premier League) 40 mins: 12 pts, 9 reb, 5 ast, 2 stl
Bendigo:
Rachel Banham (WNBA) 5.04 mins: 1 reb
& 14.51 mins: 3 pts, 1 stl
Ashleigh Spencer (SEABL) 33.15 mins: 13 pts, 7 reb. 2 ast.
& 31.08 mins: 16 pts, 8 reb, 4 ast
Kara Tessari (BigV) 25.20 mins: 27 pts, 5 reb, 2 ast, 2 stl
Nadeen Payne (QBL) 31.39 mins: 29 pts, 9 reb, 6 ast, 2 stl
& 36.34 mins: 18 pts, 9 reb, 1 ast
Canberra:
Jordan Hooper (WNBA) 8.41 mins: 3 pts, 3 reb, 2 stl
& 3.35 mins: 1 reb, 1 ast
Ezi Magbegor (Aus u19) 23.32 mins: 19 pts, 6 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl, 2 blk
Maddi Rocci (Aus u19) 16.05 mins: 2 pts, 1 reb, 2 ast
Lauren Scherf (SEABL) 39.17 mins: 29 pts, 15 reb, 4 ast, 2 stl, 4 blk
& 23.16 mins: 17 pts, 11 reb, 2 ast, 2 stl
Kate Gaze (QBL) 30.12 mins: 30 pts, 4 reb, 2 ast, 2 stl
Dandenong:
Kayla Pedersen (WNBA) 11.03 mins: 2 pts, 1 reb
& 5.53 mins: 1 stl
& 10.52 mins; 4 pts, 3 reb, 1 ast
Kiera Rowe (Aus u19) 17.48 mins: 1 pt, 3 reb, 2 ast
Sara Blicavs (SEABL) 35.10 mins: 24 pts, 9 reb, 4 ast, 2 stl, 1 blk
Carley Mijovic (SEABL) 29.07 mins: 12 pts, 6 reb, 2 ast, 1 blk
& 28.02 mins: 9 pts, 8 reb, 1 ast, 2 blk
Amelia Todhunter (SEABL) 35.06 mins: 18 pts, 8 reb, 5 ast, 4 stl
& 35.01 mins: 19 pts, 7 reb, 2 ast, 3 stl, 1 blk
Tayla Roberts (SEABL) 37.12 mins: 18 pts, 6 reb, 2 ast, 1 blk
Melbourne:
Kalani Purcell (NZ Tall Ferns) 16 pts, 9 reb
& 13 pts, 18 reb
Rebecca Ott (NZ Tall Ferns) 7 pts
& 2 pts
Monique Conti (Aus u19) 14.30 mins: 2 pts, 1 reb, 1 ast, 2 sta
Maddie Garrick (SEABL) 23.22 mins: 15 pts, 5 reb, 2 ast, 1 stl
Bec Cole (Big V) 33.05 mins: 21 pts, 6 reb, 3 ast
DP Cassidy Gould (Aus u17) 19.25 mins: 16 pts, 4 reb, 5 ast, 3 stl, 1 blk
& 20.23 mins: 12 pts, 3 reb, 4 ast, 4 stl
& 14.41 mins: 2 pts, 1 reb, 3 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk
& 16.50 mins: 15 pts, 4 reb, 6 ast
& 4.31 mins:
DP Chelsea D'Angelo (Aus u17) 21.03 mins: 19 pts, 6 reb, 3 ast, 3 stl
& 22.07 mins: 21 pts, 5 reb, 4 ast, 4 stl
& 17.38 mins: 12 pts, 5 reb, 3 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk
& 21.27 mins: 10 pts, 2 reb, 2 ast, 3 stl
& 31.56 mins: 18 pts, 11 reb, 3 ast, 6 stl
DP Kasey Burton (BigV): 35.33 mins: 3 pts, 15 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk
Perth:
Sami Whitcomb (WNBA) 10.17 mins: 3 pts, 1 reb, 1 ast
& 8.40 mins: 5 pts, 1 stl
Toni Farnworth (NZ Tall Ferns) 10 pts
& 8 pts
Alice Kunek (BigV) 25.28 mins: 11 pts, 4 reb, 3 ast
Olivia Thompson (Premier League) 36 mins: 23 pts, 16 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl, 3 blk
Sydney:
Jennifer Hamson (WNBA) 5.08 mins: 2 reb, 1 blk
& 3.58 mins: 2 reb
Lara McSpadden (Aus u19) 14.14 mins: 4 pts, 1 reb, 2 ast
Shanae Greaves (SEABL) 32.08 mins: 19 pts, 13 reb, 1 ast, 3 stl
Carly Boag (WA SBL) 24.28 mins: 14 pts, 13 reb, 5 ast, 5 stl
Ally Wilson (Premier League) 37 mins: 23 pts, 11 reb, 3 ast, 3 stl, 1 blk
Belinda Snell (Waratah) 20 mins: 12 pts, 8 reb, 3 ast, 1 stl
Townsville:
Sydney Wiese (WNBA) 4.34 mins: 1 reb, 1 ast
Cayla George (WNBA) 3.31 mins
& 8.49 mins: 1 reb, 1 blk
& 7.32 mins: 3 reb, 1 ast
Micaela Cocks (NZ Tall Ferns) 7 pts, 6 reb
& 10 pts
Zitina Aokuso (Aus u19) 18.05 mins: 5 pts, 8 reb, 1 ast, 2 stl
Mia Murray (QBL) 30.18 mins: 18 pts, 6 reb, 2 ast, 1 stl
Darcee Garbin (QBL) 37 mins: 24 pts, 14 reb, 4 ast, 2 stl, 3 blk
Suzy Batkovic (Waratah) 39.38 mins: 27 pts, 24 reb, 2 ast, 4 stl, 1 blk
DP Miela Goodchild (Aus u17) 18.22 mins: 28 pts, 7 reb, 2 ast, 3 stl
& 18.48 mins: 25 pts, 3 reb, 4 ast, 6 stl, 1 blk
& 22.55 mins: 21 pts, 7 reb, 1 ast, 2 stl, 1 blk
& 19.45 mins: 24 pts, 3 reb, 2 ast, 4 stl
& 34.50 mins: 17 pts, 4 reb, 3 ast, 1 stl
DP Haylee Andrews (QBL) 15.28 mins: 15 pts, 3 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl
Melb Fan
Years ago
Adelaide have signed Vanessa Panousis, a guard first year out of Virginia Tech. She played as a DP with Sydney back in 12/13 and was a part of the 2015 & 2017 world uni games and 2013 u19 wc bronze medal winning teams.
This brings their roster to 10 players - I'm assuming the Planeta contract offer has fallen through then?
Melb Fan
Years ago
Assuming each club goes for a 10 player inc 2 import roster, that means there's only 6 local spots left in the league.
There are some solid local players still left on that free agent list - Ciabattoni, Karatiana, Mansfield, Fadljevic, Penaluna, Cunningham, Bowen, Burton, Phillips. It'll be interesting to see how the rest of the off-season pans out.
Adelaide are guard heavy now then with Clydesdale, Novesal, Seekamp, Nicholson. Elmsworthy, now Pannosiss all over n the ten
Melb Fan
Years ago
Agreed, they really don't have much cover at all for their forwards and center, realistically they only have Brook and Hodges that is if theyre not starting her at SF. You'd think Novosel might have to spend most of her time in SF to allow a spread of minutes across their guards.
IMO it could be a dangerous decision to not go for another backup big, especially since Bishop is now under an injury cloud.
James Harvey fan
Years ago
I think I read somewhere Mansfield is headed to Europe.
Each team can have up to 12 contracted players , only ten usually travel interstate with the team due to financial costs so maybe Adelaide will fill the two remaining roster spots with bigs and leave Elmsworthy and Panousiss behind when they travel
Melb Fan
Years ago
I read that too, though she's still technically a FA until she signs elsewhere. It'd be great to see her stay in the WNBL and she'd probably make the CG Opals side, but Europe should do her good too.
IMO most, if not all teams will be going with a 10 contracted player roster, especially now the minimum wage has been introduced - then signing a few DPs in case they need top ups through injury etc. The media releases from clubs like Melbourne and Dandenong strongly imply they've shut up shop with 10 contracted players.
They don't pay all ten players, those signed straight from CofE won't be getting paid
They never have paid all their players
Anonymous
Years ago
Every WNBL player including the COE girls must be paid the minimum wage. The only exceptions are those such as Conti who do not want to renounce their amateur status due to NCAA rules. Otherwise, there is no way around it.
Off topic but does anyone know what colleges are interested in Conti, Magbegor, Shelley etc?
I know simmons has just signed with Oregon state in 2018.
"Every WNBL player including the COE girls must be paid the minimum wage. The only exceptions are those such as Conti who do not want to renounce their amateur status due to NCAA rules. Otherwise, there is no way around it
They sign them on amateur contracts regardless of college or not
Melb Fan
Years ago
I obviously don't know the ins and outs of the contracts etc, but I think the minimum wage was introduced so those girls coming out of CoE / lower order bench players get paid. They're 'turning pro' similar to McDowell White and Wilson in the mens recently, so why would they be signing amateur deals? Sure, if they're being signed as development players or amateur to go to college then they won't be paid, but I believe the minimum wage applies to any other player on the roster.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Ashleigh Karaitiana has been re-signed by Bendigo.
Looks like Bendigo are going with a basically unchanged roster barring their imports. Could be a POD (along with Sydney and Townsville) with their chemistry out of the blocks with all other teams undergoing some major roster turnover.
mel fan,I was told it only applies to the first 7, and does not extend down to the 12,not even the ten, I do know of some who are signed and are not getting paid anything,so if its the case that they must pay them something has been done under the table.
Anonymous
Years ago
Anon 317 you were told wrong. Instead of peddeling something as fact, why don't you ask the WNBL directly.
She's been working out !!?????? Where at mc Donald's
Sorry but she's no ambassador of women's sports , not the sharpest tool in the shed either is she LOL
She trains quite a bit actually..
She should have just given no comment to the Bogut question.
Anon
Years ago
You can "train" all you like at a pace that never challenges you, it does not automatically transfer into fitness, she looks well ( like someone who's on permanent holidays) but not fit
Melb Fan
Years ago
Sydney have re-signed Sarah Graham - 8 members of their championship winning team have re-signed so far.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Here are the stats from around the leagues last week:
Adelaide:
Laura Hodges (Aus Opals) 18 mins: 3 reb
Aimie Clydesdale (SEABL) 25.26 mins: 28 pts, 4 reb, 1 ast, 5 stl
Lauren Nicholson (SEABL) 38.19 mins: 20 pts, 9 reb,4 ast, 1 stl
Chelsea Brook (Premier League) 25 mins: 30 pts, 15 reb, 3 ast, 2 stl
Sarah Elsworthy (Premier League) 25 mins: 17 pts, 5 reb, 4 ast, 3 stl, 2 blk
Bendigo:
Rachel Banham (WNBA) 12.56 mins: 5 pts, 1 reb
Kelsey Griffin (Aus Opals) 18 mins 15 pts, 5 reb
Ashleigh Spencer (SEABL) 36.37 mins: 22 pts, 6 reb, 1 ast, 1 blk
& 34.50 mins: 20 pts, 8 reb, 7 ast, 2 stl
Kara Tessari (BigV) 37.23 mins: 11 pts, 3 reb, 4 ast, 2 stl
& 28 mins: 18 pts, 6 reb, 2 ast, 2 stl, 2 blk
Nadeen Payne (QBL) 36.35 mins: 15 pts, 12 reb, 4 ast, 1 stl
Ashleigh Karaitiana (QBL) 19.56 mins: 18 pts, 2 reb, 2 ast, 5 stl
& 29.40 mins: 13 pts, 3 reb, 2 ast, 2 stl
Canberra:
Jordan Hooper (WNBA) 5.38 mins: 3 pts
& 3.12 mins: 3 pts, 1 stl
Ezi Magbegor (Aus u19) 28.30 mins: 21 pts, 5 reb, 2 ast, 3 stl, 3 blk
& 12.48 mins: 11 pts, 7 reb, 2 stl, 1 blk
Maddi Rocci (Aus u19) 23.20 mins: 6 pts, 4 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl
& 17.39 mins: 14 pts, 1 reb, 7 ast
Keely Froling (SEABL) 40 mins: 23 pts, 8 reb, 1 ast
& 26.54 mins: 12 pts, 7 reb, 2 ast
Abigail Wehrung (SEABL) 25.12 mins: 14 pts, 3 reb, 1 ast, 1 blk
& 37.37 mins: 18 pts, 7 reb, 4 ast, 2 stl
Kate Gaze (QBL) 43.35 mins: 26 pts, 6 reb, 5 ast, 2 stl
Dandenong:
Kayla Pedersen (WNBA) 5.32 mins: 1 reb
Sara Blicavs (Aus Opals) 22 mins: 4 pts, 5 reb
Tessa Lavey (Aus Opals) 17 mins: 2 pts, 2 reb, 2 ast
Steph Blicavs (Aus Opals) 13 mins: 5 pts, 1 reb, 2 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk
Kiera Rowe (Aus u19) 15.15 mins: 4 reb, 3 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk
& 17.08 mins: 7 pts, 2 reb, 2 ast
Rebecca Pizzey (Aus u19) 14.22 mins: 4 pts, 4 reb
& 12.29 mins: 2 pts, 5 reb, 1 stl, 1 blk
Carley Mijovic (SEABL) 34.02 mins: 25 pts, 13 reb, 5 ast, 1 stl
Amelia Todhunter (SEABL) 35.14 mins: 10 pts, 5 reb, 4 ast, 1 stl
Tayla Roberts (SEABL) 40 mins: 17 pts, 8 reb, 4 ast, 2 stl, 3 blk
Melbourne:
Maddie Garrick (Aus Opals) 14 mins: 10 pts, 1 reb
Kalani Purcell (NZ Tall Ferns) 23 mins: 4 pts, 6 reb
Rebecca Ott (NZ Tall Ferns) 8 mins: 2 pts, 1 ast
Monique Conti (Aus u19) 19.18 mins: 1 reb, 2 ast
& 19.43 mins: 12 pts, 4 reb, 5 ast, 2 stl
Louella Tomlinson (SEABL) 40 mins: 7 pts, 12 reb, 6 ast, 1 blk
& 37.34 mins: 8 pts, 6 reb, 5 ast, 6 blk
Bec Cole (Big V) 37.43 mins: 17 pts, 6 reb, 6 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk
Courtney Duever (BigV) 38.06 mins: 18 pts, 11 reb, 3 ast, 4 stl
DP Emma Nankervis (SEABL) 0.10 mins: 1 blk
DP Chelsea D'Angelo (SEABL) 30.55 mins: 11 pts, 5 reb, 3 ast, 1 stl
DP Kasey Burton (BigV): 23.55 mins: 6 pts, 7 reb, 1 ast
Perth:
Sami Whitcomb (WNBA) 14.47 mins: 5 pts, 4 reb, 2 ast, 1 stl
Alice Kunek (Aus Opals) 9 mins: 2 pts, 2 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl
Toni Farnworth (NZ Tall Ferns) 22 mins: 6 pts, 3 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl
Sydney:
Jennifer Hamson (WNBA) 12.01 mins: 9 pts, 5 reb, 2 blk
& 7.59 mins: 1 reb, 1 blk
Katie-Rae Ebzery (Aus Opals) 15 mins: 3 pts, 2 reb, 4 ast, 1 stl
Belinda Snell (Aus Opals) 23 mins: 11 pts, 7 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl
Lara McSpadden (Aus u19) 16.06 mins: 6 pts, 6 reb, 1 ast, 1 blk
Shanae Greaves (SEABL) 34.34 mins: 15 pts, 16 reb, 1 ast
& 37.35 mins: 3 pts, 17 reb
Sarah Graham (SEABL) 29.35 mins: 8 pts, 2 reb, 3 ast, 2 stl
& 33.33 mins: 36 pts, 1 reb, 3 ast, 5 stl
Carly Boag (WA SBL) 30.45 mins: 19 pts, 8 reb, 3 ast, 5 stl, 1 blk
Ally Wilson (Premier League) 35 mins: 18 pts, 6 reb, 5 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk
Townsville:
Sydney Wiese (WNBA) 6.59 mins: 3 pts, 1 reb
& 1.43 mins:
Cayla George (WNBA) 16.04 mins: 4 pts, 2 ast, 1 stl
Micaela Cocks (NZ Tall Ferns) 32 mins: 11 pts, 2 ast, 4 stl
Zitina Aokuso (Aus u19) 15.19 mins: 6 pts, 5 reb, 1 stl
& 14.48 mins: 8 pts, 7 reb, 1 stl, 1 blk
Mia Murray (QBL) 32.53 mins: 15 pts, 6 reb, 4 ast, 2 stl
Darcee Garbin (QBL) 35.43 mins: 27 pts, 10 reb, 1 ast, 1 blk
DP Miela Goodchild (QBL) 28.37 mins: 11 pts, 3 reb, 1 ast
DP Haylee Andrews (QBL) 14.11 mins: 3 pts, 1 reb, 1 stl
Melb Fan
Years ago
http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/sport/wnbl-to-play-a-full-round-in-melbourne/news-story/dc499c2f6373954f27a1a10ea61fdc86
Fixture is set to be released today - apparently including a quadruple header round in 'neutral' Melbourne featuring all 8 teams (to allow for 10 home + 10 away games + 1 'neutral Melb game). I find it interesting that Melbourne is a 'neutral' place, hopefully they use that round to have the Vic based or even all teams teams play a regional game i.e. when the Boomers played in Geelong last season.
Are you saying that the "neutral@ games will be run from the state centre... if so who by Boomers .... that's far from neutral
Melb Fan
Years ago
I hope that's not the case - perhaps the Boomers play out of Dandenong Stadium and the Rangers play out of SBC? Either way, it does seem a bit of a pointless round to be seen as neutral considering 3 teams won't have to travel at all..
They should see if they can piggy back onto an NBL game playing out of the city centre stadium, not only help cut costs for all but also get a bigger highlight for the women's league especially considering they are finally getting a small amount of Rv coverage
Melb Fan
Years ago
Yeah I like that idea - maybe a GF replay or a Melb derby would be good for a double header with a NBL game? I guess we'll find out more in the next few hours.
I believe it is for TV purposes. Quadruple header Melbourne round to be played while NBL has a break for FIBA World Cup qualification in November. Fox gets content for the NBL off week and save on costs by filming all four out of one city/venue.
Luuuc
Years ago
If that's the case then I don't mind it.
Sure it's not remotely "neutral", but it's making the most of the situation for the league.
Melb Fan
Years ago
I hope they do it like 4 games on the one day at the one venue - I'd definitely head on out to that! Maybe even let them play at HiSense or MCA if United won't be using it.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Bendigo have re-signed Ebony Rolph and have promoted her to the senior roster.
Boti has rumours of Perth being close to signing Alex Ciabattoni, I reckon she'd be good coming off the bench and seems to be playing really well at SEABL level. He's also got in the piece below that the NBL & WNBL will share a season launch at Crown (Melb) on September 11.
http://www.botinagy.com/blog/sources-tell-me-7/
Hopefully the fact that they're sharing a season launch will mean they'll also share the MVP night and we get a bit of an upgrade from the drip feeding of awards through social media we've been getting for the past few years.
As long as WNBL contribute their fair share to the MVP night. Unlike what was done during BA era.
Nice to see retired Boti still putting in work. True love for the game!
Anonymous
Years ago
Do the WNBL have a naming rights sponsor this season?
Anonymous
Years ago
Perth have announced the signing of Alex Ciabattoni for the up-coming season:
http://wnbl.com.au/alex-ciabattoni-signs-perth-lynx/
Ballsup
Years ago
So Perth yet to sign a West Australian in their roster...they continue to pay lip service to local development...hard to get motivated to commit to a Lynx membership when you'll be watching an eclectic group of leftovers from the east.
Luuuc
Years ago
Sami is a sandgroper, and her game alone is worth 2 memberships!
The WNBL isn't a development league. Teams are there to win games. The unfortunate fact is that WA seems strangely incapable of producing top level basketballers. So right now we can either go the old Perth Lynx / West Coast Waves route that resulted in us having a total of 52 wins in 15 seasons, or pick the best roster we can afford.
Our latest signing was a handy young South Australian discarded by Adelaide, so we're far from the only team guilty of not signing locals.
Obviously it would be nice to have some west aussies in the team, but lack of them doesn't appear to be hurting Wildcats memberships too hard seeing as they just had the highest membership numbers in aussie basketball history.
Some people like to support their local kids, others like to support a competitive team. When those are mutually exclusive you can't please everyone.
If there was a Tully Bevilaqua or a Rohanee Cox in the league then it would be a different story.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Realistically though, how many WA born/raised players can you think of that are getting good minutes in the WNBL currently? I can really only think of Garbin and Burton off the top of my head. I don't even think there was one WA player on the most recent u19 and u17 WC rosters. Obviously being Victorian, I never have the issue of no homegrown talent on my teams because clearly we have an over-supply here, but if we did have that issue I'd rather assemble a team to win games than mess around with players who aren't and probably never will be up to the standard required to win championships.
One youngish player I can think of from WA is Mikaela Pirini - iirc she played with Adelaide in 15/16 as well as the u19 team in 2015. She wouldn't be the worst option in the world to have as a backup guard if the Lynx did want to develop WA players.
Luuuc
Years ago
Yeah, Garbin is the obvious one that got away. She got a raw deal IMO with the Waves, and I wonder if it was before the whole Lynx thing happened that she agreed to go to Townsville. Not sure of the timing there.
(Pirini actually played for Perth in the 14/15 season btw)
95-00'
Top wa female talent.
Abroad.
McKay
Edwards
Dennis
Hepburn
Home.
Pirini
Fejo
Hoycard
Clarke(COE)
Satie
Drennan
Oops Satie is also abroad. Signed with Pepperdine.
You could see Edwards come in next year. Coming home from Minnesota.
Anonymous
Years ago
The Lynx told Garbin she was unrequired when they took over the Waves. The only player they kept was Edmonson.
Howie the Zed
Years ago
I'm hearing an intriguing rumour that the Champs have re=signed the BEST foreign player ever to have GRACED THESE Shores!!!! Crikey, how the excitement builds!
I meant Flames lol. Who's bright idea was it to let the league have two fire themed team names btw?
Anonymous
Years ago
Asia Taylor confirmed in Sydney:
http://wnbl.com.au/sydney_uni_news/player-announcement-asia-taylor-locked/
Melb Fan
Years ago
Canberra have finalised their roster, signing 2014 WNBA champion Mistie Bass (F/C)
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/act-sport/chubby-checkers-daughter-mistie-bass-signs-with-canberra-capitals-for-wnbl-20170802-gxo9d1.html
Melb Fan
Years ago
I don't think Canberra's have been announced yet, I believe only Melbourne and Townsville have released who their DP's are.
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4830885/newcastle-basketball-signs-shannon-seebohm/
Wnbl expansion
I'd like to see...
Vic
Dandenong
Melbourne
Bendigo
Nsw
Sydney
Newcastle 2018/2019
Qld
Townsville
Brisbane 2020-22
Act
Canberra
Sa
Adelaide
Wa
Perth
Tas
Hobart 2022-24
Nz
Auckland 2024-26
12 team comp in 10 years possible?
Melb Fan
Years ago
I was under the impression both Magbegor and Rocci were senior roster contracted players (not DP's). DPs are usually u18s, i.e how Melbourne has for example Gould & D'Angelo while Townsville has Goodchild whom all played for the Sapphires this year.
#394 I like the thought of extra teams, maybe one in Geelong too which is a big market but I'd say too far for many to regularly make the trek the Vic based teams' games. The question is do we have enough talent in the country (or more importantly Aussie players willing to play WNBL as opposed to Europe) to rapidly expand like that and not dilute the quality of the league - perhaps the answer to this would be expand to 3 imports?
How can Magbegor go to college if she's on a contract?
A lot of players missing out from seabl, premier league, qbl etc.
Next few years, should be a lot more quality college kids coming home.
The quality and quantity of kids going to college is increasing.
3 imports like you said.
Each team should have a minimum 3 DPs imo.
Melbourne has Gould, Dangelo and nankervis.
Townsville has Andrews and Goodchild.
That's about it atm.
Luuuc
Years ago
Look at the calibre of rosters around the league this season - it's not a cheap exercise running a competitive WNBL team.
The league would want to see significant increase in exposure/attendance this season just to keep the existing teams viable I reckon.
I'd love to ultimately see 10-12 teams too, but I think we'd need a salary cap to achieve it sustainably.
Along with the new terms of contract introduced this year which state each team must have a "minimum" of ten contracted players , with at least 8 on paid contacts no less than the new minimum of $7,800, players planning on going to
College retain their amateur status if not receiving pay , which means the likes of those who were in either the gems or Saffires ( of which each WNBL team must have at least one if available in the ten) will be contracted as amateurs unless they have decided colllege is not for them
The new playing conditions also mean that those that are not in the ten but not college bound receive a nominal wage with a minimum set bybWNBL but clubs can choose to pay more if they wish
So basically any player that is still eligible for USA college cannot be paid
DP players or extra contracted players not college bound but not in the 8 rosetted to be paid within the "minimum "guidelines will be paid but at a lower rate than the $7,800 minimum
Which is far better than what was in place before.
Clubs are either going to fill those DP spots with college bound players or ones they really want to keep
Hold of as they have to now pay them
Melb Fan
Years ago
Magbegor could either be on an amateur contract like Conti is to maintain her college eligibility, or she could have turned pro and get paid. I'd lean toward her turning pro because she's turning 19 this year and if she was going to college the 17-18 season would be her first college season - unless she's taking a gap year of course.
Magbegors born 99.
Turns 18 in August. class of 2018-19.
Conti also born 99.
Turns 18 in December. Class of 2018-2019.
A few other too.
McLean. Simmons etc
If they finished yr 12 this year they are eligible to start college in the fall of 2018
Their age does not come into it, it's all about completing high school, however they cannot be out of ville longer than that following year of school if they wish to play NCAA div1 or 2, they can be out of high school that one year lonfer but that only makes them eligible for juco or community colleges or low div3
This is what Mangakahia did , then after the two obligatory years they must do in Community/juco level they can apply to a div1/2 college and enter as a sophomore.
Anonymous
Years ago
Well said Anon 437 that's a pretty good summary. Although, the WNBL clubs don't have to sign a Gems or Sapphires player in their 10. It was proposed & rejected by the league. Organically, a number have been signed though.
They should just say 8 paid players and minimum 2 or more amateur contracts.
No need for DPs.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Apologies - I'd got Ezi & Rocci mixed up.
Anonymous #454 I could be wrong, but I think a major reason why clubs have DPs is so that they have enough numbers at training to do game simulation etc. I think it's a good idea to have DPs, it exposes the younger players to what it takes to become an elite player and gives them an invaluable opportunity to rub shoulders with the best players in the country. Usually they're 16-18y/o players who aren't quite ready to play consistent WNBL minutes, so there wouldn't be much point wasting a spot on the roster for them but definitely good enough to put in some minutes should injuries strike their team.
Simply..
8 paid contracted players. Min $7800 a season.
Min 2 or more Amatuer contracts.
Min 2 amateurs must be 18y.o or under.
How much is that slob Cambage on? Has to be at least six figures for he to get out of bed surely?
Personally I think it should be 8 contracted (min $10,000, 13+ weeks), min 5 amatuer contracts, (3 of which must be u18)
64 players being paid an average Australian weekly wage.
16 non paid open age players being developed across the league
24 young players being developed across the league before college or signing wnbl contracts.
Magbegor - class of 2018, still doing VCE in Canberra hence why she is playing there
Rocci - year 12 last year but didn't meet academic requirements so college was not an option
Anonymous
Years ago
Looks like it is only Perth to go in regards to WNBL signings. Who does everyone like for the top-4 now the picture is a little clearer?
In no particular order, I'll go with Adelaide, Melbourne, Sydney & Townsville.
Adelaide
Starters: Clydesdale, Seekamp, Novosel, Bishop, Hamblin.
Bench: Panousis, Elsworthy, Nicholson, Hodges, Brook.
Bendigo
Starters: Banham, Karatiana,Laney, Griffin, Richards.
Bench: Tessari, Oliver, Rolph, Payne, Spencer.
Canberra
Starters: Hurst, Wherung, Jarry, Hooper, Bass.
Bench: Rocci, Gaze, Froling, Magbegor, Scherf.
Dandenong
Starters: Palau, St Blicavs, S Blicavs, Mijovic, Pedersen.
Bench: Lavey, Todhunter, Rowe, Pizzey, Roberts.
Melbourne
Starters: Smart, Garrick, O'Hea, Tomlinson, Cambage.
Bench: Conti, Cole, Ott, Purcell, Duever.
Perth
Starters: ???, Whitcomb, Kunek, Standish, ???.
Bench: Fejo, Edmonson, Ciabattoni, Thompson, ???
Sydney
Starters: Tupaea, Ebzery, Snell, Taylor, Hamson
Bench: Graham, Wilson, Boag, McSpadden, Greaves.
Townsville
Wilson, Wiese, Murray, George, Batkovic.
Cocks, Mincy, Whittle, Garbin, Aokuso.
Wilson will start over cocks?
Cole off the bench?
Tomlinson starting over Purcell?
Tupaea starting pg?
Anon
Years ago
Isn't Tupea injured again, she's pulled out of uni games because of injury or was that because of not being at uni
Brewster would probably be the next best sg after Tupaea.
No a.froling or nakkasoglu?
Squad is..
Wehrung/Panousis
Wilson/Wallace/Tupaea
Sharp/Turner
Garbin/Froling
Smith/Scherf/McKay
Melbourne certainly strong inside. But see their weakness in the 1 and 2 positions. Smart has body issues and Garrick is one dimensional shooter.
Anon
Years ago
Heard Clydesdale has taken tupea place, should have been there to begin with
When you look at the us side... doesn't look like we have much of a chance.
Anon
Years ago
Isn't the USA side the women's basketball team from South Carolina div1
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Surely Nat Burton is good enough still to be 7th or 8th on a roster spot so no reason for Perth to drag feet there. If the likes of Fejo/Lee/Grant can't fill the remainder of the spots again then that says more about the Lynx ability to develop players than local pool of talent. They're hardly going to move the needle that much or whomever they bring in now. Don't care about the starters being from wherever but there should always be local talent playing.
Can't even keep the ones we do entice over (Lavey, Mijovic, Tomlinson back from o/s). Very average off season when rest of the league is stepping up.
Disagree, burton is not wnbl level.
I'd go with penaluna.
Burton was never WNBL material , Penaluna was a great player but she's been far to injury prone and now a liability to any team as a main roster player
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Yeah, lets not conflate Olympic level with WNBL level. More than capable of coming off the bench here.
In regards to Burton it may be she has sights set on something else. She started at the Olympics but couldn't start at Perth so she may not see her future is best served there. In other words she may have said no?
If she said no , she wasn't picked up by any other team was she !
No she wasn't picked up but that says more about other teams oppinion of her. I am saying SHE may think she is better than the bench at Perth
Hurst, Rennie and wild as Bendigo development players.
Well now when they sign a centre I think the Lynx are back in the game this year
Luuuc
Years ago
Love me some Courtney Williams!
The Lynx had a dynamic enough backcourt last season but we just took it up another notch with this signing.
Still need a quality centre though.
Anon
Years ago
Was there ever any doubt?
They have the richest WNBL owner in the league.
If there was a salary cap tied to revenue and profit none of the players would be paid.
Luuuc
Years ago
^ No it doesn't. Which is somewhat of a problem IMO.
The league is super strong this season. Strongest WNBL season ever, I would say. That's a good thing now that it's back on (pay) tv, but I have no idea where the money for all this talent is coming from.
Perth are looking extremely athletic which poses a great foil to some of the other teams. I think their import centre will be in the same mould which fits into what Andy was saying they were aiming to build. Can't wait to see who it is
Luuuc
Years ago
Yeah, we're not going to compete with Cambage on the low block.
A 5 who can step out and hit the 3 would be nice. So since we're shopping in Connecticut atm I could definitely live with Jonquel Jones :)
[/dreaming]
Starters?
6'8 Cambage
6'6 Hamblin
6'6 Hamson
6'5 Scherf
6'5 Batkovic
6'5 Pederson
Perth?
6'2 Richards
Bendigo are going to struggle...
interesting to see how those Lynx guards will gel, most like to shoot the ball themselves, Williams and Whitcomb in particular, Williams wont want to take a back seat to anyone thats for sure LOL.
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Yeah Williams and Whitcomb are going to have learn to share and work together but great signing. Not everyday a starting WNBA player comes into a team. Perth really needed to step up with a big import and have. Just need to find a decent Centre now.
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Who's most likely to start up forward next to Kunek out of Standish or Thompson?
Anonymous
Years ago
Thompson has been collecting splinters on the pine for the Boomers in recent years & they've had the worst front court in the WNBL. Now she's going to be a starter in Perth?
Anonymous
Years ago
Does anyone know where the 17/17 stats are? They aren't on the WNBL website
Melb Fan
Years ago
Hopefully they're creating a new look for the WNBL website if they've taken down the stats..
IMO while Thompson has been putting up great numbers in the SA league, I don't see why she'd get the PF start over Standish unless Standish has dramatically regressed over the offseason.
Luuuc
Years ago
Not sure if this was the reason for the stats question, but FWIW:
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Standish by the numbers just ahead, seems to be able to space the floor too which helps but they're really quite similar, so they've chased a certain type of forward this season for sure.
Thanks for the info and discussion people.
So only 2 signings for Perth to come and a bunch of DPs?
yes - according to the reliable roster tracker (the hoopshots one) they have 8 signed now
yes Mansfield Europe, Madgen serious injury I think
Anonymous
Years ago
Any news out of Bendigo? Are they falling behind the 8 ball with no imports
Anonymous
Years ago
Bendigo have announced two imports: Laney & Banham.
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
The thing with hoopshots roster for Perth is that Fejo listed as under contract because of a Boti article, and I don't think the team have ever acknowledged that in any of their communications. Do we know if she is back for sure?
Melb Fan
Years ago
Madgen did her ACL in Europe I think around mid/late March so she probably won't be able to play at all this season. iirc Boti wrote a while ago that she was in serious talks with Adelaide before the injury. Bunton had signed with a Polish team before she got injured, but hopefully her injury is minor and she can still head over there to play.
On Fejo you'd think the club would've acknowledged her being re-signed by now if she were indeed returning, especially since it's been a good month or so since that Boti article. Judging from the articles the Lynx have put out you'd assume there's no real spot for her now they've got Williams, Edmondson, Whitcomb and Ciabattoni as well as Kunek who they seem to see as able to play the guard spots as well. Perhaps she's returning as a DP?
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
DP can't be a two year $40k contract though can it, and if that was a real offer why would she have that but then play effectively for free instead because of loss of roster spots? Probably something lost in the reporting there as things don't add up.
Melb Fan
Years ago
40k does seem a lot (in the WNBL anyway) for someone who would be lucky to see 5 mins of court time a game - nothing against Fejo it's just that you could now argue Perth's back court is the best in the league. Definitely agree there's something missing from one side or the other on her status.
Wnbl teams only have to pay the first 8 on the roster a minimum of $7800 , players 9 to 12 can still be contracted but depending on age and future plans they can be either amateur or just roster players
amature /college bound don't get paid a penny additional roster players are now entitled to a min $1200 in accordance with the
Wnbl minimum standards but clubs can choose to pay them more
With Williams and Whitcomb it is. Who's better?
If Perth okay with two balls maybe ........ neither likes to share !!!
Melb Fan
Years ago
You could say the same of other teams as well, especially with some of the characters in the Melbourne lineup. It will definitely be interesting to see how they can work together, but on paper Williams IMO is the best PG in the league, as is Sami the best SG in the league.
Luuuc
Years ago
I wouldn't say Williams is a PG, but both her & Sami can play that position if needed.
And neither are selfish players. They're both more than willing to share.
Two balls would be good though. More buckets.
Anonymous
Years ago
Is Perth the only team left to fill rostered spots ?
Anonymous
Years ago
I for one will be waiting to see Williams in action in the WNBL before getting too excited about her signing. There's a long list of WNBA signings who have checked their talent at LAX before arriving in Australia.
Williams averaging 13, 4.3 and 2.
87.5 ft%, 29.6 3pt%
Anon
Years ago
^agreed, so many come with credentials that prove to be somewhat falsified , the Rangers Spanish veteran I think may be interesting, far more experience than the 23yr old Williams , probably the most experienced guard in the league
Anonymous
Years ago
Williams is posting some nice stats. It's worth noting that Cappie Pondexter's career stats in the WNBA are:
17.2 points, 3.8 rebounds, 3.9 assists
34.9% 3PG, 84.2% FT
While she had a few decent games in 14/15, she was average for most of the season, so let's hold the phone on Williams.
Luuuc
Years ago
Palau is at the very tail end of her career and coming here is an much a lifestyle decision as anything. She's a class player though so I'm pretty sure she'll still be handy addition on the court, and also as a mentor. No one is making crazy predictions about what numbers she will put up.
Cappie came to the WNBL on the back of an injury-plagued WNBA season, which at the time was the poorest season of her career. There were solid reasons to be cautious about expectations about what she would do here.
As it turned out she was unselfish and pretty efficient here, but she played a noticeably restrained style of game.
Williams is young, energetic, seriously athletic, and on the rise towards her prime. IMO the potential is there for her to be better here than Cappie was. There is nothing about her game that shouldn't translate to the WNBL.
She can seriously play. It's just up to Andy Stewart to put her in the right positions to do her thing. (and preferably also get a freakin' centre, so that we have a means of getting possession of the basketball other than retrieving it from the bottom of the net)
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Yeah Perth needs to find someone vertically unchallenged at the five. Preferably someone capable of defence and rebounds really.
Agree it's going to be exciting to see what Williams does. If she plays better than Sami did last season than there will be a lot of fun games to watch.
Anon
Years ago
Sammie shoots 5 times more baskets than any other player on the team, hence why so many points per game, Williams is trigger happy too, so it will remain to be seen just who will retain that , they cannot both shoot at those levels when both on the same team, only 40 mins in a game lol
Luuuc
Years ago
Are people forgetting that Carley Mijovic is no longer on the team? She was 6th in the league in FGA last season. There will be plenty of shots for Courtney.
As for Sami, she had the second-highest TS% out of the league's top 50 scorers. She can, and should, take as many shots as she wants.
Anonymous
Years ago
The Lynx will need their back court to fire with that signing!
Melb Fan
Years ago
Oh wow... surely Nat Burton (or an unknown Aussie C) has to be coming back, Dowe couldn't be an upgrade on Burton? She played in the French 2nd division..
James Harvey fan
Years ago
Hmmm, did they use up all their import $ on Williams ? Maybe she is better than her resume suggests but Ji don't really get this signing
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Agree and I a hope Burton is re-signed somehow but the silence suggests she's not.
Giving up a lot in size to fellow C's so hopefully she is as good as they say on defense. It's still a signing, so that's good.
Perth was always going to be about Whitcomb and now Williams.
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
"The Perth Lynx have now signed eight players to their 2017/18 roster, with further announcements expected shortly."
Confirmsed by omission no Fejo. Boti either misreported, her contract was cancelled or he was just wrong.
Anonymous
Years ago
Despite Boti's own bragging in his blogs, he's got several signings wrong including George & Bishop. You can add Fejo to a growing list.
Melb Fan
Years ago
The good thing about their lineup is that they'e all pretty good shooters and can really spread the floor - obviously Dowe's shooting is unknown, but hopefully it's decent enough. If they can play good team defence then Dowe's lack of size shouldn't be too much of a factor - I just hope they don't turn out like Melbourne last season, I'd love to see Sami win a championship to be honest even though she even isn't on my team!
Melb Fan Andy is a different coach who allows anyone to shoot. Molloy is very structured and so stifles players natural flair. I don't think Stewart is like that so I would expect this team to be competitive and in fact wouldn't be surprised to see teams struggle to match the athleticism.
Lukosius
Years ago
On paper this Lynx line-up looks better than last season's. It appears the league has got stronger but, in my opinion, so has Perth. Looking at the top 8 players from last season (per minutes) and this year's signings....
Guards
--------------------
Whitcomb >> Whitcomb
Phillips >> Ciabattoni
Lavey >> Williams
An upgrade here. Ciabattoni brings more versatility than Phillips, who was injured more times than not. Though not a pure PG like Lavey, Williams is an obvious upgrade in a number of other ways.
Mids
--------------------
Butler >> Kunek
Edmondson >> Edmondson
A slight upgrade here. Edmondson is Edmondson, while Kunek will bring more to the table than what Butler did, who in my opinion was one of the more disappointing imports in the league (7pts, 2rebs, 34% FG).
Bigs
--------------------
Hamblin >> Dowe
Burton >> Thompson
Mijovic >> Standish
Probably on-par here. Dowe will bring similar stats to Hamblin - maybe not as many points but probably more rebounds, blocks and steals. And definitely a few extra km/h up and down the court. Though shorter in stature, the Thompson/Standish combo maybe has more versatility than Burton/Mijovic.
If there's a weakness in the current Lynx line-up, it is that they are a little shorter on the 'bigs' side of things. But with that brings extra speed and athleticism.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Definitely agree with all of that Lukosias, especially for the hype Butler was given she didn't really live up to it - I guess that's the thing with imports as was discussed a while back, you really don't know how they're going to go until they're actually playing here.
I'd say all teams bar Sydney and perhaps Canberra have improved their lineups - Sydney really only have marginally dropped due to Mitchell leaving but Ebzery is still a very good pick up and Canberra because Tolo + Mansfield are massive holes that needed to be filled as well.
It'll be interesting to see who the Lynx go after to fill their final two spots, you'd think they need one more big - Burton if she's coming back or perhaps Cunningham? Potentially even Planeta if it's true that she's getting her permanent residency etc sorted, other than that I can't really think of any WNBL proven Aussie bigs left on the market.. Maybe Bowen but I don't see her as the quick, athletic type they've targeted thus far.
Anonymous
Years ago
Lukesuus summation of the guards & mids seems reasonable but he's way off the pace in the bigs. All three are a serious downgrade on who they are replacing, so all in all, Perth are looking weaker than last season.
James Harvey fan
Years ago
Hamblin was one of the best shot blockers in the WNBL - is Dowe really going to do better than that?
Melb Fan
Years ago
IMO in terms of scoring, by bringing in Williams and Kunek to replace Lavey and Butler they're more than mitigating the effect of the Mijovic/Hamblin to Standish/Dowe change. Mijovic to me is frustrating to watch, when she's hitting her shots she's great, but when she's not she just jacks up silly attempts for someone who hadn't been shooting well all night.
Hamblin's shot blocking ability will definitely be missed, but I think there's quite a few solid defenders on their roster, so if they can work to play some good pressure defence and box out well the lack of height mightn't be such a problem. As Japan & Serbia showed the Opals, having the height advantage doesn't give you an automatic win.
Anon
Years ago
Word is that Nat Burton has re-signed with the Lynx after failing to attract a reasonable offer in Europe. Certainly helps in respect to Perth's bigs, and they definitely look a stronger outfit that finished in the top-3 last year.
Anonymous
Years ago
And so they should with 4 Americans in their team.
Four Americans does not equate to a winning team lol
Seriously their nationality means zilc
Melb Fan
Years ago
I was going through the Lynx website to see if I could find anything on the Fejo situation - they've updated their player profiles (i.e. removed ex players and added the new signings) and interestingly Fejo is in there with an updated bio:
"Tahlia Fejo returns as a development player for the Perth Lynx, having joined the team midway through the 2016/17 season."
- http://www.perthlynx.com/Club/Players
I guess this unofficially resolves the confusion about her status.
Danny Green
Years ago
Susi Walmsley, Cassidy McLean back st the Flames
Breakers2Lynx2Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Yep, Fejo will be a DP with them this coming season.
Anonymous
Years ago
Sydney have re-signed Susannah Walmsley, Cassidy McLean and Lara McSpadden to complete their roster:
http://bit.ly/2invxOO
Anonymous
Years ago
Looks like Perth are headed to North QLD for some practice games:
http://wnbl.com.au/townsville_news/fire-lynx-clash-burdekin-blitz/
Any other games announced?
Melb Fan
Years ago
Melbourne has 5 pre-season games scheduled;
#1 Sat 9/9 7.30 pm vs Big V Invitational Team - Boardman Stadium, Sunbury
#2 Fri 15/9 7.30 pm vs Adelaide Lightning - Nunawading Stadium
#3 Sat 16/9 6 pm vs Dandenong Rangers - Kilsyth Stadium
#4 Fri 22/9 7.30 pm vs Bendigo Spirit - MARS Minerdome, Ballarat
#5 Sat 23/9 3 pm vs CoE - MARS Minerdome, Ballarat
Dandenong and Bendigo are also playing a game;
Sun 17/9 3pm - Eagle Stadium, Werribee
Those + the Perth/Townsville series are the only pre-season games to be announced so far.
major coup for perth lynx signing an olympian this late in the preseason
Breakers2Lynx2Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Lynx:
C - Dowe
C - Burton
F - Thompson
F - Standish
GF - Kunek
GF - Edmondson
G - Whitcomb
G - Ciabattoni
G - Fejo
G - Williams
That's a deep line-up. Any of those 10 players could start on any given night.
Knowing Andy Stewart's coaching style (going way back to his days at Lakeside), expect an in-your-face up-tempo defence from the Lynx. Defensively they will attempt to strangle teams with a full-court press for all 40mins, regularly bringing fresh legs off the bench. You can clearly see that was behind the thinking of putting together this type of squad.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Melbourne has signed ex Perth forward Ashleigh Grant as a development player.
Very, very solid get as a DP to recruit someone who could competently play minutes from game one.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Not overly surprised Perth re-signed Burton, she certainly fits into the type they've recruited for in the off season. It'll be interesting to see who out of Dowe/Burton and Thompson/Standish get the C&PF starts.
IMO they could well run teams off their feet in the end, especially when they get teams on their second game of the round and/or play in Perth.
Breakers2Lynx2Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Starters:
C - Dowe - 20mins
F - Standish - 24mins
GF - Kunek - 24mins
G - Whitcomb - 32mins
G - Williams - 32mins
Bench:
C - Burton - 20mins
F - Thompson - 16mins
GF - Edmondson - 16mins
G - Ciabattoni - 12mins
G - Fejo - 4mins
DPs
Melbourne
5'10 C.Gould 00
5'11 C.Dangelo 00
6'2 A.Grant 97
6'3 E.Nankervis 00
Bendigo
5'7 A.Hurst 00
5'8 J.Rennie 00
6'2 M.Wild 95
Sydney
5'7 S.Walmsley
5'11 C.Mclean 99
6'4 L.Mcspadden 99
Townsville
5'8 H.Andrews 00
5'9 M.Goodchild 00
Dandenong
Adelaide
Perth
Melb Fan
Years ago
As far as I know, Melbourne had also re-signed Kasey Burton as a DP
Anon
Years ago
Kasey Burton was announced as signing for Boomers several weeks ago in their lost of extra players, each team can have 12 contracted players not 10, so maybe she's not a DP but an 11th or 12th fostered player.
Usually home games see 12 suited up, Boomers are not known for using their DP unless plagued by injuries like they were last season.
Any word on Dandenong yet for their extra players or DPS? They seem to be the last to make any announcements
Melb Fan
Years ago
Sydney have announced 3 DPs - all from their Sydney Uni Sparks SEABL side
5'10 G Emily Matthews '99
5'11 F Kim Hodge '98
5'10 G Maddie O'Hehir '97
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Glad Nat Burton is back. Helps with depth on roster so much now. Won't have them in my top two predictions but they have the squad to do it now.
Can't be many roster spots left now to fill in the league
Melb Fan
Years ago
Townsville have signed 5'8" 23 yo ex Logan Thunder & AIS guard Mikhaela Donnelly. She averaged 10.7ppg, 4.9rpg and 6.6apg for Logan in the QBL this year.
http://wnbl.com.au/adelaide_news/lightning-coach-chris-lucas-steps-aside-health-battle/
Melb Fan
Years ago
Very shocking news re Chris Lucas, wish him all the best in recovery. Hopefully we see him healthy and back on the sidelines in no time.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Adelaide have announced their new captain - Abby Bishop!
http://wnbl.com.au/bishop-lead-adelaide-lightning-new-era/
Very surprised that the article has no mention of Hodges - I'm fairly certain she was their captain last season, it seems like Nat Novosel is the vice captain.
Some players from around the league were in Melbourne yesterday to film promo footage for Fox Sports. It seemed like there was one representative for each team, those being Abby Bishop, Kelsey Griffin, Rachel Jarry, Tessa Lavey, Jenna O'Hea, Alice Kunek, Belinda Snell and Zitina Aokuso. I wouldn't be overly surprised if those were the captains (or at least co captains) for this season - bar Townsville, for this season. Surely the promo footage will start to circulate on the television soon given its now less than a month til the first game.
If Kanye Kunek is captain of Perth then expect failure in the west
Best captains would be..
Bishop-Adelaide
Griffin-Bendigo
Hurst-Canberra
Cumming-Dandenong
Ohea-Melbourne
Whitcomb-Perth
Ebzery-Sydney
Batkovic -Townsville
Melb Fan
Years ago
Melbourne won their first pre-season game against a Victorian invitational team 90-76. http://wnbl.com.au/melbourne_news/boomers-open-pre-season-win/
Cambage & Smart both sat out, it's a bit concerning if Smart still hasn't fully recovered from that leg issue that got her in the back end of last season.
Notable stats -
O'Hea: 16pts, 4 ast
Garrick: 14 pts, 3 ast
Tomlinson: 12pts, 6rbs, 3ast, 3blks
Cole: 12 pts, 5 ast
Purcell: 10pts, 8rbs, 3ast and 5stls
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
i haven't been able to post recently for some reason. Strange. Sad about Chris Lucas, all the best to him.
Question I had, excluding DPs how many players can a team have? It seems some have 11 and some will just have 10.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Don't know for sure, but I would've thought it'd be similar to the NBL in having 11 'main roster' players - although perhaps the WNBL would have a max of 11 contracted, as I would imagine it would be a stretch for some clubs, certainly almost all clubs prior to this season to have those 11 players contracted.
In terms of DPs, I feel like there isn't a limit per se on how many they can have, iirc many times Melbourne have had around 6 DPs whereas other teams only have 2-3. imo especially in the womens game there shouldn't be a cap on that as it's important to have those pathways available to the younger players.
Anon
Years ago
Wnbl can have "up to" 12 contracted players, two of those can be on amateur contracts, only 10 will travel with the team out of those 12 contracted.
In previous years DP players were not payed, but the new regulations relating to players means DPS over the age of 18 and not p,anning on going to,college a required to be paid, so most likely the DPS will not be as many as in previous years, or they will all be kids
Not quite Anon, but good try. WNBL clubs must have a minimum of 10 players and a maximum of 12 on their main list. When including DPs they can have a total of 15. Therefore, if you only have 10 on your main list, you can have 5 DPs. If you have 12 on your main list, you can only have 3 DPs. There is no mandatory requirement to have any DPs, clubs can choose to do it or not.
Such a short season should minimise to ten. Over done.
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Interesting. Then teams seem loathe to have full 12 players on their lists.
Pity there's not like a pdf somewhere you can download
"Not quite Anon, but good try. WNBL clubs must have a minimum of 10 players and a maximum of 12 on their main list. When including DPs they can have a total of 15. Therefore, if you only have 10 on your main list, you can have 5 DPs. If you have 12 on your main list, you can only have 3 DPs. There is no mandatory requirement to have any DPs, clubs can choose to do it or not."
isnt that exactly the same as this
"Wnbl can have "up to" 12 contracted players, two of those can be on amateur contracts, only 10 will travel with the team out of those 12 contracted.
In previous years DP players were not payed, but the new regulations relating to players means DPS over the age of 18 and not p,anning on going to,college a required to be paid, so most likely the DPS will not be as many as in previous years, or they will all be kids"
but just worded differently lol
up 12...max of 12.... tomatoes ,tomatos
LOL
But the question remains.... has Adelaide named any DP players other than those contracted roster players
You can see the few Dandenong DPs on the Facebook page.
Can't name them though.. u18.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_WNBL_team_rosters
Im sure all teams will have either extra contracted players yet to come and DPS on their books.
think its only Rangers Lightening and Lynx yet to name all players isnt it
that Wiki link is not up to date half of those haven't added any players since June, so unless those teams with ten players listed are only keeping to that ten, it will be a long 'short'season if thats the case if any get injured and playing 2 to 3 games per wek plus 3 to 4 trainings per week.
Melb Fan
Years ago
I don't think it's been formally announced, otherwise I've completely missed it - but judging by the Lightning/36ers season launch Adelaide have re-signed Colleen Planeta. On their instagram page she's in the front row of the group photo in her jersey.
I read somewhere a few days ago that Canberra is set to announce their final signing later this week. I'd say it would be wise due to the shorter season to contract 11 or 12 if possible - as discussed earlier with such a short yet packed season the extra players would help manage loads and provide extra cover should injuries/illness arise.
^who are the Dandenong junior rep DPs, most have gone to college
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Adelaide have 13 Players in that team lineup. I guess they can't include Planeta until she has her residency but have her contracted anyway?
Here's players 11&12 on their roster: http://wnbl.com.au/adelaide_news/norwood-flames-duo-re-sign-lightning/
Maybe McKay or one of the other youngsters is really a DP. Wish teams would be clear.
I thought I read in the Lynx re-signing of Burton they were looking for one extra player to bring squad to 10. So maybe money isn't there and risking it with small squad and whoever they bring in on DP contracts.
Anon
Years ago
DP players, unless college bound or under 18 are now required to be paid, this is with the new WNBL players contract terms.
Teams can still have training players to make up numbers but they don't get any thing other than the chance to train.
This new player agreement makes it mandatory for clubs to pay the minimum of $7,800 up to the 8th player, after that it's up to the individual club what they pay, but DPS do now get a small amount to help cover costs
Signing
Paalvast-Canberra
DPs. Could be wrong though...
Bourne-Canberra
Antoniadou-Dandenong
Puli-Dandenong
Hollingsworth-Dandenong
Breakers2Lynx2Waves2Lynx
Years ago
I've heard of another naturalised player joining the Lynx soon, which will complete a very nice squad of 10 plus DP's.
Has every team got their 12 rostered players yet?
Think only Boomers and Townsville have listed all their players plus DPs
Ruef..
22/06/17
The talented lefty grew up in America but now considers Australia home, with plans to gain residency and citizenship.
"I love the lifestyle here, I love the people, especially Tasmania."
Players so far
Sydney-15
Melbourne-14
Adelaide-13
Bendigo-13
Townsville-13
Canberra-12
Dandenong-10
Perth-10
Melb Fan
Years ago
Antoniadou is returning for Dandy, she's pictured in many of their training photos on their instagram/FB pages, I'm fairly certain Puli is also in a photo though not 100% certain. Interestingly Sam Richards is pictured participating in their training drills, though I can't see why they'd need another point guard so perhaps she's there in more of a coaching role?
Ruef would be a handy addition to any team but would probably round out a roster like Perth's perfectly. The only other naturalised player I could think of is Kisha Lee returning?
Melbourne will be 15 with Burton
Dandenong will be 14 with Antoniadou, puli, Hollingsworth and Richards?
Anon
Years ago
I'd be thinking if Antoniadou is playing at all, then she wouldn't be as a DP after being a roster player previously, they still have two more spots to take them to the 12 before they look at DPS
And having signed two juniors with little experience of senior game in Pizzey and Rowe you would think they would be looking for a couple more with a bit more experience at WNBL level
"Ruef..
22/06/17
The talented lefty grew up in America but now considers Australia home, with plans to gain residency and citizenship.
"I love the lifestyle here, I love the people, especially Tasmania."
So as stated, she's not naturalised
amomanonius
Years ago
Great hit-out tonight at Brydens Stadium. Flames got the the win by a couple of points, but Caps can consider themselves 'unlucky'. They were up by over 10 points at one stage and an objective assessment might have said they deserved to win the game. But the Flames have enough class players that can turn a game around in a moment and they stayed close long enough in the contest to allow for a couple of stops and then a critical Allie Wilson trey to take the game. That said, the Caps are a legit semi-finals threat this season and with Jarry cleared to return for the start they will measure up against the best teams.
So big Lizzie finally takes the crt against the CofE .... didn't suit up against Suzy and the Fire but thought the 16yr olds were worth it..... well ok then lol
Babracadabra
Years ago
Yeah, note to masterchef Molloy, all that corned beef is no good without any cabbage.
Bourne who gave up 6-7 inches did quite a good job on Cambage I thought.
Anon
Years ago
Boomers will get it done come the pointy end of the season. Will be teething problems early with that much talent. All about people management for them now.
Anon
Years ago
^hahaha......with all"that talent" .....it's no more than the rest of the teams in the league, just has more egos than most
Remember Tangers with Mark Wright and "all that talent" , still couldn't buy that championship
Hespect
Years ago
Anon - do you mean except for 2012 when the Rangers won the championship?
Anon
Years ago
Hespect, that year they had Jenna Ohea, Kath McLeod and a very young Steph Cummings, not exactly a star studded line up back then
Who do people expect to finish top-4 this season & who will lift the title?
Melb Fan
Years ago
IMO the top 4 in no particular order will be Melbourne, Dandenong, Perth and Townsville.
Melbourne because well their roster looks pretty damn good on paper - whether or not this translates to getting wins is another thing and to be honest I'm concerned about their reliance on Cambage. Its happened on every team she's been on, so they need to have a plan B when she's double or even triple teamed or in foul trouble.
Dandenong because I think their roster is pretty well rounded too, although it could be argued they'll over rely on their starters. I reckon Sara Blicavs will break out and absolutely dominate this year. It'll be interesting to see who will be their go-to PG out of Palau and Lavey.
Perth because I think when they're on, they'll be next to unstoppable with their athleticism and shooting abilities to wear teams down. I really don't think teams can even offer help defence against them because if you leave someone open on their team they'll probably burn you. Question is how they'll gel with quite a few trigger happy players on the roster. IMO they'll probably be the most fun team to watch of all this season.
Townsville because well you can never really discount them can you.. Garbin and Aokuso coming off the bench are quite handy, and judging by their preseason games Aokuso is right at home already and is capable of quite a bit. Having Suzy and Cayla back on the one team is a scary proposition for the other sides IMO and will really free up the likes of Murray and Wiese to use their perimeter shooting power.
Yes shock no Sydney, I think they may struggle without Leilani which isn't made much easier with Tupaea being out for most if not all of the season with injury. I'm not confident in how deep their roster is (especially without Tupaea) in comparison to the other teams.
I'm not sure how the veteran likes of Snell, Hodges, Hurst, Bass, Gabe & Batkovic (even O'Hea and Jarry could be added to this list with their injury histories) will go with this style of scheduling - a lot of back to back weekends and road trips in such a short span of time may not bode well with their bodies at this point in their career.
I have a feeling the finals series will be between Melbourne and Townsville, but toss a coin who will win it. Could well be some Lynx/Sparks finals series type games IMO.
I guess we'll see how correct this all is in a few months time!
Perth added schwagmeyer plus DPs pirini, denehy, miotti and rintala.
Dandenong look to have added puli, anstey, lopes as DPs?
Anon
Years ago
Dandenong have signed Antoniadou going by their highlights from preseason and Facebook page
https://thewest.com.au/sport/basketball/perth-lynx-star-toni-farnworths-season-in-doubt-after-wrist-break-ng-b88612839z
and so it begins...one of the biggest issues with such a short intense season, you get an injury and your likely to miss most of the season and even if your team makes finals you wont have played enough to take part, not so bad when its one of your bench players but when its a starter, or your main import, and with the new WNBL contracted player conditions its will end up being a very expensive little exercise.
Sydney have already lost Tupaea with foot injury, Rangers Spanish import has yet to take the crt due to injury now this one.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Not good for Perth, especially with the style of game they were aiming to implement. Didn't know about the Palau injury, quite interesting to say the least. Hopefully she gets it together quickly because I'd really like to see her play! I wonder whether we'll see the likes of Jarry and Bishop back on court in time for round one as well.
In other news, Megan Hustwaite and Sara Blicavs will be hosting a WNBL show on SEN radio at midday on Tuesdays. It's great to see that the WNBL is finally getting a dedicated show on mainstream radio!! (Not discounting the work that basket case does - they're brilliant - it's just in terms of the show being on a big radio station, i.e. way more exposure for the league).
Palau was walking round with ice on her leg when they played COE the other week so not a good sign,but hopefully it wont be long term,season starts next week
Luuuc
Years ago
That sucks about Toni. Her versatility at both ends is going to be badly missed.
:(
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Gee that's horrible news about Farnsworth! Shouldn't have been a starter but important player nonetheless. The other bench players will have to step up and cover.
Where was the news about Schwagmeyer signing? Is she even naturalised to be able to play. Same with the DPs, can't see that anywhere.
Melb Fan
Years ago
Never heard of Schwagmeyer but she's listed under the 'training/development' players on the Lynx website http://www.perthlynx.com/Club/Players
You've got the following players there:
Georgia Denehey '99 5'4" G (played in pre-season)
Tahlia Fejo '98 5'6" G
Isabelle Miotti '97 5'10" G/F (played in pre-season)
Mikayla Pirini '96 5'6" G
Jennie Rintala '90 6'1" F/C
Alison Schwagmeyer '90 5'11 G/F
I'd assume Rintala and Schwagmeyer may be more 'training' than development players because surely theres some kind of age limit to be a DP. Perhaps Schwagmeyer if naturalised, Pirini or Fejo will be promoted to cover some of Farnworth's minutes..
Waves2Lynx
Years ago
Thanks Melb Fan!
Hmm yeah they still only have 9 official players on roster. Really strange that even without an injury they're not even close to 12 player max allowed.
Anon
Years ago
Still time for them to bring either some of their DP players up, or maybe find a replacement, Dandenong have only just release this signing today, Antoniadou take their roster to 11
http://bit.ly/rachresigns
Dandenong DP
S.Taylor
T.Gilliam
M.Puli
I.Anstey
I.Lopes
Anon
Years ago
Great list of development players for dandy. All you'd expect to be future players at wnbl level. Perhaps after college I’d assume
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