Jacobsen wasn't it?

Say, for argument's sake, he makes one of two at the line (although he has been shooting the eye out of it lately). 3-point game, Sixers ball. They get two and it's a one-point game with half a dozen possessions left in the game. How the game changes if Aylen just did his job.

Apart from the howler USF non call the reffs was pretty good setting the bar and being reasonably consistent.

Sure they called a foul when Rotnei probably flopped on that three but equally missed Sobey flopping similarly after a flop warning had been given earlier.

Made for a great open game compared to the wrestling matches we have seen in previous seasons.

were pretty good..

The refs get taken off games for a four-week block if not performing.

Year after year in Australia, in multiple sports, fans bitch about the umpiring/reffing. There is more talk about that than the players. It's pathetic.

the fact that the foot of the leg that was grabbed had been placed down ( it seems) right in the join of AJ's crotch, possibly even towing his alleged man bits , could give AJ some sort of defense for the contact, but that argument would be stronger if he had just tried to fend it away from his crotch/groin when /if it got listed up, instead he seemed to actually grab it towards him.

By the way i don't think the foot was intentionally placed there, there did not really seem anywhere else the foot could come down.

Aylen still should have called at least a foul on that basis, if not an unsportsman like. VERY hard to argue that AJ was trying to protect either himself or both of them.

Looks like Aylen was watching the ball, and by the time he turned to see the incident he would have had no basis for calling a tech based purely on what he had seen.
The other ref ... not so sure he has an excuse.

Paul, what's the Fiba rule with regard to video reviews on plays?

Can they call a common foul then review it and change it, or call an unsportsmanlike foul then review it and change it?

Is any of that possible? Obviously it is in the NBA

You want the NSW government to investigate a case of fraud?

Gold.

Beattie is quite possibly the worst in the league. Calls the softest fouls, makes blatant mistakes and when someone says something to him he gets an eye in against them. How he has lasted this long is a joke.

AJ has to get a minimum two games here. Out of all the decision before the match review this season, they have looked at the in game punishment.

AJ has tripped a player, and got a personal foul that became a side ball. No punishment at all. Tripping sits higher on the penalty list then accidental bumps to the head. 2 games automatics minimum.

As for who saw what, Aylen eyes on the incident

Good joke, anon.

Hey Paul, still there?

Beattie worst ref in the NBL by a country mile!

Manu, under FIBA rules no, but the NBL stated last year refs could review any call in the last two minutes. Koberulz thinks that was clarified afterwards, but neither of us could find official statement either way.

So in short, I'm not sure in relation to NBL games!

It is not the first time Aylen has blatantly stuffed up a call in a final. Watch Anstey throw the shoulder into Carter in an obvious illegal screen but Aylen freezes up as normal and calls nothing which then leads to the fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0oT4Oc6ShU

I can understand referees getting calls wrong but when it is blatantly obvious yet the referee doesn't want to make the correct call because they don't want to upset the home crowd is absolute bs!

Thanks for that Paul.

I have $20k on Adelaide to win the Championship so I'm obviously partisan, but even if I were neutral I'd be pissed at the league for letting this happen.

Haha it really is...

Adelaide straight up wins the 'ship if Cairns makes it through.

They're no match for Randle.

Manu, you should be mad at the 36ers, they didn't step up when it mattered today after three impressive quarters of hanging tough when things weren't going their way.

At the start of this series I tipped Illawarra in three, but I haven't liked their lack of mental toughness at times, so I think your bet is still looking OK for now.

Oh no doubt Paul. As I said on the game thread, Johnston's poor defensive effort (he got dragged a couple times from memory for just terrible effort), and Randle's selfishness cost them the game. But that doesn't take away from my disappointment in the refs.

Why does auto correct do me like that?

Johnson*

They had Illawarra hogtied for the bulk of that last quarter, then from memory Rotnei hit a 3 and the game sped up again.

Don't know if it was the coaching or Adelaide's lack of game awareness, but they played dumb basketball.

And man, how long does it take to realise Illawarra's press break was winning them the game in that first half?

Hogtied for the bulk of the third*

Badum-tsh

So Aylen warned Ogilvy for flopping? It was a pretty embarrassing flop too.

Allen and Beatie both signalled the foul.

What is worse, Beatie at the end of the next play phase, stops the ball being inbounded to warn Joey and then voice his warning to the whole court.

Call the correct call, you don't have a bench going mad. Call the wrong call, you get the game going so you can move on

Can we please stop blaming the refs already. Yes there have been calls all year but what can you do.

Obviously the refs aren't to blame for the 36ers loss, I think anyone who watched the game saw the Hawks were better and Adelaide didn't grab chances which they should have. The way this game was called, I don't really have gripes for the way the game was ref'd apart from the notable minor exception below (which isn't to be used as an excuse for a deserved 36ers loss).

That Ogilvy bringing Jacobsen down by the leg appeared to be, as Luuuc? said in another thread, sheer incompetency to the point of being bizarre.

It doesn't appear to be a "missed call/didn't see it" so much as a fundamental lack of logic in deciding what to do in the situation. The ref might have to take an early holiday.

The unfortunate aspect is the context of the game, closeness and momentum. The failure to do the right thing deprived us of whatever the story line was to be.

Train, the attention will stop being on the refs once they achieve a level of competence which will allow the average fan to excuse the odd shocking call. All year they have proved incapable of that.

The flop call needs to go. Refs are not up to it. Make it a post game review fine, with suspensions for 3+ repeat offenders,

Well said XY on the flop calls. Refs not up to adjudicating on this atm. The serial floppers would get their penalty.
If AJ did not grab a leg, would he have had his nuts crushed by a size 15 or would he have had a leg raked over his face? I haven't seen it in slo mo but i thought Jacobson could have put his foot elsewhere.

Agree re flop calls, just let refs focus on charge/block and announce flop warnings publicly later on like the NBA did. Much more embarrassing for the player involved, less chance for a mistake to influence the game and less for refs to think about.

Agree re flop calls, just let refs focus on charge/block and announce flop warnings publicly later on like the NBA did. Much more embarrassing for the player involved

Boti had a fair bit to say about the refs and the leg grab but not a word in the Illawarra Mercury. What a surprise.
Pretty sure the NBL will be happy there is an extra game!

On the replay it definitely shows Aylen watching the ball and only turning as Jacobsen starts to fall. Hard to call an immediate USF given how they're always tangling up. Should have had a review of it though.

And if anyone who watched last nights game can tell me what is going to be a blocking foul and what is going to be a charge they're lying. Blokes literally jumping in front of someone on the drive and drawing a charge is a joke, and it was being paid both ways.

Terrible call on the USF.
It only evens things after the 31 foul stitch up in game 1.
Let's hope the players can decide game 3?

As for someone having $20K on Adelaide(proven championship winners that they are),well your either full of it,or the kitchen show pays you too much!

Maybe Boti will move on from the Matt Knight charge call and bring up the AJ leg grab any time Adelaide has a close loss!

Pete and myself actually went halvsies on the $20k. The show pays less than you think

Yeah all the talk about the Aj tackle but put yourself in Aj position and what will you do if someone is going over you.It should be a tech but how about Sobey getting a flop warning when going for a three near the Hawks bench then does the biggest flop of the year when Rotnei was going to the basket(could of been last QRT) and no call.I swear Sobey ended up at least four metres from the first contact.It was either a charge which it wasn't or a flop which it should have been.