well if the game is not a HUGE crowd it should not be considered a faliure by the sixers as there are a lot of crows/sixers/soccer fans out there.

If faced with the choice wonder if the crows will go with Sunday in a show of support for other codes in the city.

There will be no choice.

But the Advertiser reported the SANFL were told by the AFL to prepare footy park for Friday night or Saturday afternoon...

A chance the games would clash in any event!

From the article, it didn't sound like they'd have a choice to me. Win and play Sunday, lose and play Friday.

Perhaps we could ask Crows or United when we send them chocolates and those lovely flowers to them! OMG the stuff ups continue!

Thats ok tho, sure many kids whose bball teams are not in finals contention, may just not bother playing, so they can go and watch the other codes, together with their fed up to back teeth parents!

Yep definitely says Sunday afternoon. Sorry...

BASA can't be blamed for this.

I dont think they work there any more.

I think it's rough to suggest that anyone made a decision to "mess up basketball". They made a decision that they thought would help. Now there's a chance that it could turn out to have a fairly disastrous consequence.

anon (#47492) - i disagree

I think, although as it has turned out, there may still be a clash, the decision made at the time was the right one, here's why.

If they had not changed it, we would have all been whinging and complaining about them not for-seeing this. If they had waited for the game time to be decided, it would have been too late and we would have been on their case about being re-active rather than pro-active.

This time they were pro-active, i know the result wasn't ideal, but hindsight is always 20/20.

As stated in several posts though this topic, BASA have been trying to do what is best for the basketball supporters. The only disappointing thing is that they are silent on the topic and in the absence of any statement, everybody is going to make their own call on what is going on.

Perhaps be more pro-active BASA.

you cant blame 36ers for trying -presumably on the best advice available. If the almighty 3 code clash happens then Sixers should go with a once off $10 ticket promo to clubs to get bums on seats and offer the opportunity for people to experience basketball and make something out of the clash. I am sure season ticket holders could accept this for the good of the game. Should also be publicising the clash and that the game is on because not enough people know about it. A lot of people have commented on the trial game and not knowing about it.

Is there actually a clash yet or is everyone just grabbing this opportunity to have a winge about BASA?

47553, its easier to get in touch with club members than it is to advertise to the whole state. also the club members actively play or watch basketball, but the majority of the rest of the state dont/.

and I was surprised when potential NEW people wanting to go to 36er games rang this week to get 2 adult/1 child season tickets and were told they were unavailable and that they'd need to buy tickets per game (and this is because their U10 son is taking a very keen interest in basketball). Now instead of having 3 people making a commitment to attend every game they will probably only go to a few??? I wouldn't have thought 36er sales were going that well because I know of a few season holders who didn't renew (I did renew)

From Sixers management, I just want to say that you all make good points. And they are all taken into consideration. Unfortuantely, this decision might backfire on us, but the one thing you can be sure on, is you're never going to please everybody. We had to make this decision a week or so ago due to our member tickets ready to be mailed out. We had to put some information in there about the possibility of the game change as it would be a hectic job reaching the masses otherwise. We all want what's best for basketball and no one is trying to sabotage that. We all appreciate your support of our great game and hope you will acknowledge our endeavours to improve our overall package this season.

bloodynora, I heard about this happening last year also. I would guess that they have the membership cards manufactured in one hit for reasons of pricing (would be obscenely expensive to get a single card made up, for example), so after the manufacturing deadline, it's not possible to sell more.

I'm not sure if it would be possible to have 50-100 extra cards made up (barcode might store specific info?) to cover for this.

Were you offered anything like a Try 5 ticket or similar?

Are season ticket revenues treated the same as they are in the AFL? I seem to remember hearing the Power making a push for season ticket (membership) sales prior to a certain date as all sales before this cuttoff went to the club. After this date season tickets were no longer available and game by game tickets were the only option I believe this was a ruling that came from the AFL itself rather that Port Power. (Liam may be able to confirm if he is around)

If the same situaton exists in the NBL this may explain why someone wanting tickets now was turned down. Still sounds like a stupid rule....but that wouldnt be a first now would it!

To annonymous 47626 - there are a lot of people who enjoy the game of basketball but dont actually play!

Your comments seem to indicate that you believe the best way to get a good crowd to the opening game is to schedule totally around the Juniors (I may be wrong but this is just the way I read your point) Im not sure how many Juniors are now put out by the moving of the game but Im pretty sure it is nowhere near the 50000 that would be attending the Crows game and 300000+ that will be glued to the TV watching at home. Sure it is dissappointing that anyone has to be put out but teh club seems to have made their decision based on numbers available to come to the game and the cold hard facts are that if there is a clash with the Crows pretty much half of Adelaide will not even be considering the basketball.

Statman,

I havent read this whole thread so am not abreast of all the issues involved but I'll answer your questions specifically about the Power.

The Power sells season tickets up until at least two thirds of the way during the season. This flexabilty is important to the club, because it continues to have a revenue stream from season tickets during the season.

Of course most of the sales come in the off season, but the club leaves the "door ajar" for people to jump on board when ever they want up until this cut off date.

These "late buyers" still pay the same price as everyone else (so there are no savings for buying up mid season - thus not pissing off the people who have paid up front) and recieve extra ticketing for future games to compensate for the games they may have missed by signing up later e.g. if they sign up after the first home game, they would recieve an extra ticket for a future game because of the one game they "missed".

The late buyers recieve plastic cards (from the extras the club buys in advance) or paper tickets until such time as their plastic cards are manufactured by the supplier (usually takes between 2 - 3 weeks).

It is interesting to note, that last year hundreds of season tickets were being sold well into the season so that people could get preferential grand final ticketing priorities and also to say they were a season ticket holder during the inaugural premeirship year.

Cheers

I would have thought you could produce a few hundred extra barcoded tickets for late buyers, as the cost would be minimal as it is factored into a 'mass' produced price.
Have those barcodes deactivated until they are purchased to stop any fraud related issues.

To the people upset with playing kids games on fathers day .. fair enough, but also understand that running a business requires making a decision that wont always please everyone.
Sixers management cant make an 8th day of the week to fit everyone in and ill think youll find that the "clash" wont happen too often in the future. Try to make the best of it and maybe have the family come out to watch your childs game, and get together for dinner later ?

It's all a mess, I agree. Some could've been avoided, some not. I'm not going to comment on whether BASA should move junior games around to make some money on a flower show either - might've been a necessary evil.

BUT, try and get to the Sixers first game, OK? I don't want to guarantee anyone having the night of their lives because some people are hard to impress, but I do think it will be the biggest change in game night presentation in perhaps the history of the club. The games are already good to see, so improving the overall presentation is a bonus IMO.

I agree -- the size of the crowd is a substantial part of the atmosphere, but by letting people know about what's going on, hopefully that will get a few more people to the game. ;)

If you're going to go to one game all year, make it this one. The added bonus is that you get to yell at Paul Rogers a bit.

Thanks for the explanation Liam - Im guessing you havnt had the same late season rush this year lol

Isaac - your continual hyping up of the opening night is certainly making me wish I could get there - I trust someone will be taking a camera and putting some shots online of what you are up to. Hope its a huge success with a great crowd to appreciate it!

Isaac - no, all they were informed of was the new zone pricing. your suggestion of having 50-100 tickets barcoded sounds a good idea. My concern was that here were keen new participants to the sport who now may only get to a few of the games. As a season ticket holder for many years I have been pushing the sport to those I work with and it was disappointing when one of those familis decided to make a commitment they were knocked back. Regardless I've always been there, through the highs and lows and certainly will be again for the first jump ball(sadly the only 1 for the game - which is a different issue)on Friday night

After todays AFL results is this thread now obsolete?

Thankfully. I tipped West Coast, but figured I also got a positive result from the Adelaide team winning, and the Crows not clashing with the Sixers next weekend.

Possibly, but surely the kid's games would be more important to their fathers.

Anon #47794

Yes, there was every chance the Crows game was going to clash with Fathers Day next weekend, and there will be at least one finals game on next Sunday.

I think all the talk of Fathers Day clashes is a bit silly really....Fathers Day does not carry the same sort of family bonding values as Mothers Day. Fathers Day is great for maybe breakfast in bed, a new power drill, and thats about it. I really dont know of too many families in my circle of life that go and have big family dinners, and that Dad would be upset if kids were playing sports on the day.

In fact most Dad's (myself included) would be more than happy to go watch my child play sport. If Fathers Day is so important, why did the Royal Show a few years ago take the step of actually opening their gates on the Sunday (which is ALWAYS Fathers Day) when for 100+ years beforehand, they NEVER opened on a Sunday?

I really think most the people having a whinge on this thread are whinging for the sake of whinging.

or maybe they just have a different opinion to almighty yogee..