Best news all day. This will cut down on a high percentage of flopping in the game.
ROFLcopter
Years ago
Good riddance (I hope you had the time of your life).
he is and always will be a legend of the wildcats/nbl
If you choose the day that a player of his calibre announces his retirement to bag him, you're a bit of a dickhead.
Perth fans at least have the decency to wish guys like Wortho and Hinder all the best.
Train
Years ago
"If you choose the day that a player of his calibre announces his retirement to bag him, you're a bit of a dickhead."
Well said - very poor form. The guy is an NBL and Wildcats legend. Fitting that both Wortho and Redhage retire in the same season - they had some epic battles.
Lucas Walker to replace Redhage next season, calling it
Who would retire from NBL and go play SBL...doesnt make sense.
I'm sorry but if you take off your run foul cats caps, to the outside world Redhage is no wortho or hinder. He is the guy that makes Anstey look like the guy with a sense of humour. Was never great for the integrity of how the game should be played, I believe that any day.
Anonomous
Years ago
If he played the way all you Redhage/Perf hating flogs perceive he would have been refereed out of the game a long time ago.
A 384 NBL game legend.
koberulz
Years ago
Who would retire from NBL and go play SBL...doesnt make sense.Someone who's not up to playing NBL anymore but still wants to play basketball?
Kingpodge
Years ago
I'll bag him every and any day of the week. But, you can't help but appreciate what he's done in Perth and how he's contributed to their sustained success.
He is what he is, a hero to 10,000, a villian to the rest.
He goes to sleep each night with a handful of championship rings not giving a toss what anyone on the Eastern seaboard thinks.
Nathan of Perth
Years ago
I'm expecting to see #42 hanging from the rafters someday soon.
Been an absolute stalwart of the Wildcats.
Kyrie2Nation
Years ago
One season too late. Not sure why he decided to play on when he was clearly done by the end of last season.
In saying that, he has been one of the best players in the NBL in the past decade and was unstoppable back in the day.
I will miss his flopping, but Wagstaff can take over the reigns.
Mike
Years ago
'Who would retire from NBL and go play SBL...doesnt make sense.'
Because retiring players of any sport never go and play a lower level
" Was never great for the integrity of how the game should be played"
He came back from being told he would never walk again to play several more seasons at a top level and you're questioning his integrity?
Thats like saying you have no heart despite you coming back from severe head injuries to be able to (barely) use a keyboard again.
Kingpodge
Years ago
integrity has nothing to do with heart... just sayin'
Not saying it does, but he's done the impossible and someone just thinks "na he wasnt good for the game."
If he wasnt good for the game, he wouldnt have every single NBL club making him offers every time he came out of contract, especially Adelaide who were desperate to sign him.
Wildcats80
Years ago
Keyboard warriors are out in force and pretty low to saw good riddance will you all say the same when Goulding retires, he's the king of flops. Anyway 3 championships, multiple MVPs for the cats, he's done just fine.
AngusH
Years ago
The player I most loved to hate... A great unorthodox scorer in his prime, but also the single most infuriatingly dirty player I've watched over the years.
The guy is a success story with big speed humps along the way.
He was cut by NZ, thrived in Perth.
Horrific hip injury suffered, but then took a year to rehab and came back to win 2 more championships.
Every team has players opposition fans don't like. Redhage just seems to be the poster boy.
AngusH
Years ago
Please, Hinder doesn't even come close to Redhage when it comes to sheer volume of moments of on-court douchery. It's like comparing Michael Jordan's career point totals to Harold Miner.
Watching Redhage in the SEABL was something else.
Hey Angus, this is your video!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozEwRdfa0bo
Dazz
Years ago
Yep, Hoops sinking to a new all-time low, with the dickheads out in force.
Have any of you even met Shawn, or listened to anything he's said. I've had the pleasure of meeting him a couple of times over the years. He seems to be a legitimately nice guy, who enjoys the community work.
Simple fact is his achievements speak for themselves. He'll retire as the 2nd highest games player, and 6 times MVP for the most successful team. He's won 3 NBL championships, and represented his adopted country at the Olympics.
Despite waning output over the past few years, he's still averaged 18 points across his career, playing mostly as PF often against bigger opponents.
And he would not have achieved any of that, if even half the crap his detractors say was true.
End of the day he will retire as an NBL legend, and the haters will still be sad pathetic losers.
AngusH
Years ago
Yeah, no question Hinder found himself involved/featuring in a lot of "incidents" over the years, but Redhage is up to something basically every single possession of the game.
He would be the most boring NBL player to hang around with.
"but Redhage is up to something basically every single possession of the game."
Ok if you're going to make stuff up then we're done.
AngusH
Years ago
Sorry Dazz, I don't care who Redhage is off the court, I'm simply judging him on his capacity as a professional basketballer. My dislike for him only extends that far, too.
I don't like him on or off the court and I'm a Wildcats supporter lol.
I just looked up whitebread in the dictionary and a pic of Redhage came up.
AngusH
Years ago
Please, "making stuff up"... I don't know how many times I've seen footage of Redhage doing something off the ball and either getting away with it or drawing a foul over the length of his career, but I wish I had a dollar for each of them.
"Have any of you even met Shawn, or listened to anything he's said. I've had the pleasure of meeting him a couple of times over the years"
Yeah, and he's the most boring person I've ever met!
Camel 31
Years ago
Take care of all your memories. ...
As you cannot relive them.........
You know what they say. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Redhage sure knows how to draw a foul, but the refs are the ones blowing the whistle
Knew him back in the Seabl days and a great guy. Plays hard and anyone that says they hate him off the court clearly doesn't know the man.
Dazz
Years ago
I'm simply judging him on his capacity as a professional basketballer. My dislike for him only extends that far, too.So, the professional Basketballer:
~380+ NBL games
3x NBL Championships
2x All NBL 1st team
3x All NBL 2nd team
2x ALL NBL 3rd team
6x Wildcats MVP
2nd in games played
3rd in points scored
4th in Assists
3rd in offensive boards
5th in Blocks
"I heard that he eats kittens."
while you prefer sticking to hotdogs?
I think I know what you mean. . .
Roy Hobbs
Years ago
Guess what Dazz? People are not obligated to like Redhage. Perth fans love him, good on them. He's been a Champion for them.
Everyone else is allowed to form their own opinion and most see him as a niggling flopper. He is the absolute standard bearer of flopping in the NBL. Goulding, Wagstaff, Sobey etc can only pale in comparison to his decade plus of antics.
Oh and calling people sad pathetic losers because they don't agree with you is kinda sad and pathetic.
Sometimes you have to show respect, this is an occasion where if you like him or hate it's well done to a magnificent career and I'm certainly not a wildcats supporter.
Wish him good luck in the future.
HMN
Years ago
It will be interesting to see how many good wishes he get from rival players - I'm tipping not as many as other players.
Congratulations on a successful career - even though I'm not a fan of the way he plays at all.
Roy Hobbs
Years ago
Good to see you being mature as always Dazz. Top effort there.
Yes he flops. Yes he is dirty. Yes he is a Championship player who will get his number retired.
I would love for you to be this rude to my face.
koberulz
Years ago
Dazz, are you able to admit even a theoretical capacity for anyone affiliated with, or part of, the Wildcats organisation to do anything wrong?
"I would love for you to be this rude to my face. "
When all else fails....we have to degrade the conversation to "Come here and say that I dare you".
Roy you have the right to hate Redhage as much as you want for whatever reason you want.
Dazz have the right to laud Redhage as much as you want for whatever reason you want.
The world will continue to spin.
Very Old
Years ago
This thread is all a Little sad really, I cannot think of any Australian Olympic basketball representative who , upon their retirement, has generated such a range of controversy such as this.
That's because people don't know how to act with class when an Olympian calls it quits.
WTF !!
Years ago
Dazz in your list of his achievements you never bother to mention his Australian representative achievement, perhaps you should watch the "in their own words" interview with Damian Martin, ( a truly class act) to get a bit of perspective ( perspective - you know, that 3-D depth thingy that usually comes with having two functioning eyes and its accompanying bi-focal vision)
Roy Hobbs
Years ago
Yes I asked if he would actually say that stuff to my face, instead of being an internet tough guy. Would anyone accept a stranger saying that to their face? I doubt it.
Dazz has a bee in his bonnet about me for other reasons.
No doubt Redhage made a career out of getting under his opponents skin but if some of those opponents cant find it in them to wish him well (as is the norm) then it says a lot about the quality of people they are (or aren't.)
Hes had a solid career, played hard and done some dumb shit in the process, but hey who hasn't
It's Dazzed. Nuff said. Start another meaningless thread Dazzed and show us some more of what little you really know about basketball.
KET
Years ago
Dazz, it must be tiring being you.
You get personally offended everytime people don't see your rose tinted view of the world. And the slightest hint of criticism towards Perth you go around calling people dickheads.
It doesn't help that you have a knack of misinterpreting basic posts which sets you off into a perpetual rage.
Nobody said Redhage wasn't a winner or a successful player because he was, but that doesn't change the fact lots of people don't like him for his methods - and that's absolutely fair.
Kings fans admit Garlepp can be a bit suspect, 36ers fans admit Drmic has a tendency to get under the skin of players and I think we all acknowledge Petrie can cause a stir. These are blatantly obvious - Redhage is probably the most blatant of all.
Take the hit and move on.
Johnson
Years ago
Classic case of one or two season to many but was a good player in his day.
Luuuc
Years ago
I'm not convinced he's gone a season too many. He's down the end of the rotation, but he has still played some very meaningful little spells for us.
Regardless, he was an absolute machine in his day and was the prime mover in many years of successful Wildcats seasons, and I agree there's an excellent chance that the #42 will be hanging from the rafters some time soon.
None of which means that the many people who have disliked him for years need to change their opinions today. I'm pretty sure we're not that precious!
Should have called it a day after wining the title last season. Expect Matty Knight to follow suit after the saeason is over.
J
Years ago
So many having a go at Dazz for being sensitive. It's amusing cause the way you're reacting to him having a go is kinda precious too.
Like many of the greats redhage will be loved by his team and despised by those he tormented.
It is however sad when a player of his calibre can't be acknowledged for his contribution to the game without bringing up some of the perceived lesser qualities.
If Joey wins you a title will you talk about his Twitter war and when he threw a punch after a game? Doubtful
KET
Years ago
What are you on about?
The twitter war is the best thing to happen to the 36ers - from 3-6 before the event to 17-8 after event
You're getting mixed up with last years Twitter war, and the one before that, and the one before that...
KET
Years ago
The answer to the question is yes though, if Joey wins the 36ers the title, there will be talk of the twitter war and the fans will be bloody happy about it.
CT
Years ago
I'm sure the wildcats will try to retire his jersey and hoist it up into the rafters at the end of the season. Whether it will stay up there, or just inexplicably and periodically fall down to earth at key moments during future games remains to be seen.
Btown
Years ago
Oh look, another thread derailed by anti Perth sentiment. Don't think the people on here see the irony.
KET
Years ago
Where's the anti-Perth sentiment?
People dislike Redhage =/= disliking Perth.
paul
Years ago
Just an incredible player.
Once he shifted to PF teams around the league had to adjust to the impact he had offensively with his all-around game and defensively with his mobility, elite fitness and intelligent reads.
Credit to him the way he's continued on past his prime and still been a contributor to the team, on the court in patches and no doubt massively off the court.
Greg Hire's tribute to him was fantastic, the guy was the ultimate pro who got the best out of himself and, contrary to unpopular belief, is a really nice bloke too.
https://twitter.com/greg4hire/status/826028678400221184
"Where's the anti-Perth sentiment?"
Try here - www.hoops.com.au
They guy is a douche, THE MOST hated guy to EVER play the game by opposition players, nothing to do with his skill he is just simply a flog and they way he conducts himself on court.
No one likes him, he plays dirty/cheap/whinges/talk $hit to everyone flops/bad mannerisms/gives cheapies then complains when roles are reversed etc etc
But he could play the game.
Still a douche tho.
But could play that's for sure!
Isaac
Years ago
From @nblfacts:
Most career points by active playersRedhage comfortably first in that list! As I said on Twitter, I think within a couple of years, Johnson and Abercrombie should be leading that, unless Gibson gets a second wind when the league expands, or NZ lose some talent and can keep Penney running.
5791- Redhage
4730- Worthington
4286- Forman
3576- Gibson
3517- Penney
3074- Johnson
2891- Abercrombie
"They guy is a douche, THE MOST hated guy to EVER play the game by opposition players, nothing to do with his skill he is just simply a flog and they way he conducts himself on court.
No one likes him, he plays dirty/cheap/whinges/talk $hit to everyone flops/bad mannerisms/gives cheapies then complains when roles are reversed etc etc
"
Oh boy!
Train
Years ago
Everybody needs a villain! Redhage is Perth's but the exaggeration on his "dirty play" is a bit much.
If half of these comments here had any validity then the guy would of fouled out every game of his career - after all the ref's see what you all see right? But wait he plays for Perth right and there's that whole conspiracy about the NBL looking after Perth and their players - right?
I hate players on other teams also, it's not a bad thing but most the time it's a hate based on respect (Worthington), other times its just cos i need a villain(Petrie, Kickert). Then there's players I hate cos they are dirty elbow swinging flogs(Conklin).
If you want to hate a player - fine - that's your right. But try to show a little bit of class and lay off the character and on-court player assassination of a legend of the game in a thread about his retirement.
GordonG
Years ago
Redhage will be in Cairns for the game on Sunday, and I'll have no problem going up to him, shaking his hand and saying thanks for the memories, and for what he's achieved.
Just looking forward to him and Wortho getting it on one last time :)
hahaha anon, I'm pretty sure we all knew Walker would replace redhage next season, months ago.
Roy Hobbs, where did Dazz say everyone should like him?? People are questioning his professionalism and ability as a pro baller. Dazz is simply providing facts to contradict those statements. It's your own decision to hate him as a person but he will go down as a legend of this league. Fans of losing clubs hate successful ones, the same goes for successful players....pathetic.
Wow this thread escalated! Jesus people not like he has died. I get why Perth fans love him and all but as opposition fan I hate him the way he plays the game the shooting action he has his fake captain America persona, and the fact he as even able to wear a boomers jersey. At the end of the day it's my opinion doesn't make it right but to the likes of dazz, for fucks sake I'm going to have it.
If he had died, there would still be some dickheads that think its good because he once got tangled up with a player from their favourite team.
paul
Years ago
They would say he's not really dead, he just flopped.
Paul best on ground comment!! That bloody funny.
People who said he made a career out of getting under opponents skins are severely under rating his ability. He was a genuine league MVP candidate in his day, not just some nigglerl/agitator like a ray Gordon or Russell hinder.
Also watch his retirement press conference on wildcats TV and tell me he isn't a nice man
Why did New Zealand sack this guy? Was he struggling initially?
I heard he averaged 40ppg in the seabl
Wasn't it only a year later he joined the cats? Maybe it was just a confidence issue
paul
Years ago
The Breakers sucked at the time and replaced Redhage (who was just OK) with Timmons in a desperate move that certainly didn't pay off.
Funny thing is they brought Timmons in because they needed another 3pt shooter and he missed something like his first 25 triples for them!
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