Anonymous
Years ago
Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane
Another import down.
Anonymous
Years ago
Another import down.
So much for the coup of signing Beal. Great signing Andre
Tom
Years ago
Good move. Let Kendle play. He will be of more use, esp. if he can get his 3 ball going.
He's been poor.
This gives the opportunity to give more minutes to kendle.
Says a lot about him if they're willing to release him with all the injuries and troubles they've had lately.
Agreed.
Is Beal done in the NBL? You would have to think so the way he has gone this season.
Even if he can get naturalised, do you think there will be a spot for him in this league next year? As inconsistent as he can be, the guy can play, for the right contract as an Aussie he could be valuable. But not sure if any teams would want that attitude he seems to have atm.
koberulz
Years ago
You can give Kendle more minutes by benching Beal, you don't have to sack him. Brisbane are out of the playoff race, and have played 23 games so they can't replace him anyway.
Must be pretty bad.
wildcats80
Years ago
Inside word was the cat didnt re sign him purely due too off court issues. Word has it he would be on road trips and go out at night on his Tinder dates. Nothing wrong with that, but I am sure that breaks team rules, but being a star player, they let him get away with it, Brisbane, didnt let him get away with it and it was costing the team.
He went to shit this year and parts of last season. Not surprised just few bad for the Brisbane fans injuries have decimated a pretty balanced looking roster.
"You can give Kendle more minutes by benching Beal, you don't have to sack him. Brisbane are out of the playoff race, and have played 23 games so they can't replace him anyway."
And what would be the benefit of having him sit on the bench the rest of the season? As you say, they're out of the play-off race, there's no future for you together, you may as well cut ties now.
There doesn't always have to be more than meets the eye. He's been playing very poorly, the team is out of contention, and they want to move on. Best for both parties you would think.
Yeah was just the right time to cut ties. Looking into it any further is odd. If he was producing and got cut then yeah maybe he has done something stupid... like snapchat something inappropriate ;)
Bill on the ball
Years ago
I guess Wildcats were justified to release Beal last year but could not elaborate for professionalism.
ChairmanOfTheBored
Years ago
Well i guess that answers my question in the ADL v BRIS thread from Thursday night. Terrible attitude and body language and almost had to be begged to come on to the floor that night. This news is hardly a surprise given that display.
Wouldn't they have to pay out his contract anyway? Why not keep and bench him?
Mike
Years ago
Well Cats still got 2 flags out of him and a finals MVP
Zodiac
Years ago
Wouldn't they have to pay out his contract anyway? Why not keep and bench him?
Like holding onto Rashad Tucker for too long. "Professionalism" what a lame excuse.
DaHuzyBru
Years ago
Ah Dolla, he just didn't click at Brisbane. Let's all remember what he will be known for i.e. this 40-point effort
koberulz
Years ago
And what would be the benefit of having him sit on the bench the rest of the season? As you say, they're out of the play-off race, there's no future for you together, you may as well cut ties now.The benefit is having an extra body, and not dealing with cutting a guy mid-season.
There doesn't always have to be more than meets the eye.
Dazz
Years ago
The timing is curious, but Brissy appear to be out of the finals race, so this does give them the opportunity to give more minutes to others, further their development, and make evaluations pending next season.
It MIGHT also save them some money, depending on how the system works.
Presumably they will have a contractual obligation to pay-out Beal. However since he is nolonger on the roster, may he nolonger counts towards the cap???
Sad to see him go, was always a favourite, but has become increasingly inconsistent.
koberulz
Years ago
Why would it matter whether he counts against the cap? They can't replace him.
Its another example of players particularly the imports being the scapegoat when the team is playing poorly, instead of the coach taking at some blame.
The 3 import rule has hurt imports like beal who need the ball in his hand regularly to play consistent good basketball but he plays less minutes and therefore doesn't score enough to avoid being sacked.
IMO there are a few other coaches like lemanis need to take blame of their team losing record or missing out on the finals.
Although I don't think there will be any coaches getting the sack at the end of the season, there surely should be at least 2 who should step down because of their inability to get the best of team and not making the finals.
FSTOS
Years ago
Beal has never played "consistent good basketball"
With the talent Perth had they could carry him an live on the memory of his lucky chucking days.
Very limited player.
Beal had the ball in his hand in the two previous games with Brisbane a big shot to win both and two of the dumbest plays I've ever seen, he's had a shit year time to move him on.
Imports also cost more dollars than Aussies, don't perform out the door, that's business.
Dazz
Years ago
@Koberstalker, as I said it MIGHT save them a bit of money.
Awesome Dazz is here. And he and koberulzzzzz are going at it! Yay it's a cats thread officially.
Dazz
Years ago
why can't they replace him?
koberulz
Years ago
why can't they replace him?They've played more than 21 games.
thanks guys I thought that rule was just about qualifying for finals
Master Chief
Years ago
If Beal was desperate to remain in the country, you couldn't discount him on his time with Brisbane. I don't know the full story of what went on in Brisbane but he was valuable as a championship player for Perth.
Zodiac
Years ago
thanks guys I thought that rule was just about qualifying for finals
Dazz
Years ago
No, two separate rules. Team must have played less than 75% of its games to add any player. Then, a player must play at least 25% to qualify for the finals.thanks guys I thought that rule was just about qualifying for finalsI'm pretty sure it is
Dazz
Years ago
Regardless they're signing a development player when he returns from college this week as his replacement.No, he would already be signed as a DP, but at the moment he is "VISITING colleges" but will suit up when he comes back.
"The benefit is having an extra body, and not dealing with cutting a guy mid-season."
You'd rather cut a guy mid season and deal with it once rather than have people wondering what is going on seeing him on the bench not to mention the strange atmosphere within team practices and activities
Dazz
Years ago
Depends also on the reasons behind the sacking. Even if its purely down to poor on-court performances, it might be better to show others that players not performing to expectations will be dealt with, rather than just watching him good off for the rest of the season.
At this point, Lemanis has made it clear they are looking to the future and next season.
CT
Years ago
He was a petulant little arse in Perth by all accounts so I don't doubt he was exactly the same in Brisbane too. Lemanis is all about team culture and wouldn't have stood for it.
Sad when an obviously talented player goes off the rails like this, but good decision by Brisbane.
BOL
Years ago
I will miss his direct and to the point media interviews
Not a fan of the character assassinations after the fact. Gleeson was lemanis' assistant in the national team so even though they are competitors I'm sure lemanis would've asked Gleeson for a character reference before he signed him.
From what I've seen of Beal for the past couple of months, there's more than enough evidence that his on court performance was the source of his downfall. NBL stats aren't the easiest thing to retrieve but I'm pretty sure his numbers make for atrocious reading of late.
Zodiac
Years ago
Beal 2016-17:
23g 11.2p, 2.5r, 2.1a, 37.1% FG, 31.2% 3pts
http://basketball.realgm.com/international/league/5/Australian-NBL/stats
He's been in the country a while now, perhaps he should look to sign with a SEABL team in order to remain in the country and get citizenship.
He'd be good in the NBL as an Australian player off the bench to run the offense with the second unit.
Dazz
Years ago
Depends on what offers he can get now.
I don't know if being sacked by two NBL teams would make him too eager to hang around Aus in hopes of playing for a 3rd?
He'll probably try and pick up gigs in some of the lesser leagues around the world. Hanging around to get naturalised, so he can come off the bench on low dollars for some random team, doesn't sound like much of a career prospect.
koberulz
Years ago
From what I've seen of Beal for the past couple of months, there's more than enough evidence that his on court performance was the source of his downfall.You don't get sacked 23 games into the season based purely on on-court performance.
Hanging around to get naturalised, so he can come off the bench on low dollars for some random team, doesn't sound like much of a career prospect.He and his family are apparently quite fond of Australia, so he might see it as worthwhile to stick around.
yes although it might not seem quite as worthwhile if his value drops too far
Travelling inside and out of the country on a regular basis doesn't make you a candidate for naturalising.
Dazz
Years ago
He's a professional basketballer, with a limited window to earn semi-decent money, before trying to start another career.
People are saying "he'd be great to have coming off the bench as an Aussie," so sure, but how much is that going to pay. Australia is NOT a cheap place to live. If you're an Aussie who is only good enough to play SBL and come of the bench in the NBL, you do it because you've got no better options, and you hope you'll be good at selling real-estate.
"You don't get sacked 23 games into the season based purely on on-court performance."
Why not?
Especially when the team is out of play-off contention and you're probably on a one-year contract and the team has seen enough that they know you won't be a part of future plans.
koberulz
Years ago
Because there's no point going through the hassle given you can't replace him. And it's not like he's been great at any point this year.
AKA
Years ago
I'm sure the on court performance from Beal was a factor but it isn't the sole reason behind the sacking.
He probably ran out of Brisbane girls to keep him busy, same as in Perth.
Perth Wilburs
Years ago
I thought Beal has a partner/wife and a child?
Chairman Of The Bored
Years ago
And a whole packet of crumpets on the side?
Dazz
Years ago
Beal did have a partner and at least one child. The impression I got was that they were meeting up for holidays, but hadn't permanently accompanied him. Probably difficult when pro-ball moves him around so much.
For those perpetuating allegations about his relationships, I would note that such things would be highly unlikely to effect on-court performance, and equally unlikely to lead directly to his sacking from two teams.
End of the day, his on-court performances became inconsistent at Perth. He'd have some great games, followed by some where he just couldn't find the hoop. He won 2 'ships for us, so that's still pretty impressive, but Perth thought they could do better. Ancient History now. At Brissy he did not perform to expectations. You can speculate that there may have been off-court behaviour driving that, but I still think the bottom line is that he was judged on performance.
Dazz. Do some research into Rashad Tucker and the come back and apologise. Yet another guess from Dazz.
strange you say that dazz considering you previously posted this
''There were rumours about Beal, including supposed reasons for some of his "off" nights.''
Dazz
Years ago
strange you say that dazz considering you previously posted this
''There were rumours about Beal, including supposed reasons for some of his "off" nights.''
"Because there's no point going through the hassle given you can't replace him. And it's not like he's been great at any point this year."
What hassle? Public seem to be accepting of this decision as it makes sense. Hassle has amounted to one brief media release.
And whilst he can't be replaced by another import, it does open more time for guys they are interested in having a look at, without the real *hassle* of trying to explain in press conferences and interviews "why is Beal on the bench?"
koberulz
Years ago
What hassle? Public seem to be accepting of this decision as it makes sense. Hassle has amounted to one brief media release.Pretty sure you can't terminate a contract just by issuing a press release saying you're doing so.
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