Luuuc
Years ago
This will be really interesting.
Last game we won with supreme effort combined with the cohesion of a team that knows each other pretty well. If we can maintain most of that and effectively mesh Cotton in as well then we're a chance for sure.
Head says don't tip the cats on the road even when we're playing ok. Heart says (hopes?) we're cleared for takeoff and ready to begin our attack on the playoffs.
I understand Damian Martin will be suiting up for this one.
Cats with a new-look starting 5 of:
PG - Martin
SG - Cotton
SF - Prather
PF - Knight
C - McKay
Looks strong on paper.
Jack Toft
Years ago
Cats will be much stronger than previous games. Martin is missing game fitness and this might be the thing against the Cats. Kings limited by coaching skill it would seem.
Close, but no cigar for the Wildcats. Cats will get their whiskers trimmed tonight
One advantage might be that the Kings won't have cottoned on to how the Cats' new line-up plays.
Damo officially cleared to play (Wildcats FB page).
Will probably see limited minute in this one, just hoping we aren't rushing him.
Bill on the ball
Years ago
Expect all the guys to cash in on Cotton's distribution prowess.
Kings wouldn't know what will hit them until it is to late.
I expect a subdued Kings today.
Bill you're way too optimistic champ. But why your at or load up on the cats. Great odds for a sure thing, as you seem to think it is.
Bill on the ball
Years ago
I was surprised at the odds offered and obviously helped myself to what I can afford needless to say.
It won't be this tote come Monday against Brissy. Be smart.
even with martin on limited minutes when you add cotton as well that is probably 40 extra minutes of high quality play and more importantly 40 less minutes of chumps like wroe & hire and now kenny is just giving some backup minutes instead of carrying the whole team. it totally transforms the look of the roster. plus mckay and brandt are starting to find there roles too. suddenly the team looks pretty dangerous imo.
Wildcats good value imo, very good chance to win it or make it close.
Personally I'm on Cats +4.5 line @1.85 with Luxbet
ROFLcopter
Years ago
Knight will flop to the floor and very seriously injure himself (then miraculously mend before next game).
Kings by plenty.
Jack Toft
Years ago
This game is so anticipated there's two threads
Dazz
Years ago
Interesting to see how many minutes Damo can play. He's been back training, so unless he pulls up sore there shouldn't be any limitation. But will of course lack game-fitness and touch.
And obviously the big one, Cotton's debut.
Not hoping for too much in the first game, but as he settles in really hoping he can replace JJ's scoring.
(If he can do that and handle the ball, twill be great.)
The only good value in this one is Casey Prather under 3.5 assists. He will be shooting but that's about it with cotton and Martin distributing. Your wecome
Dazz
Years ago
What is also going to be interesting going forward, with Damo and Cotton, is the impact on McKay. He's a great finisher when he gets fed inside, so this could really bump his scoring up.
Wildcats80
Years ago
Damo and Cotten will come off the bench. I'm thinking damo will play 15 mins plays hard in 4 3-4 spurts.
PG - Kenny
SG - Hire
SF - waft staff
PF knight
C McKay
Damo and Cotten will come on after 5 mins replace Kenny and hire
IMO I feel Damo will start, he will play limited minutes, but I reckon he'll start. He has previously after returning from injury. It will be a big boost for the team and other players to start the game with their captain and leader by their side, and then take him off after a few minutes to manage him.
Wildcats80
Years ago
OMG yes Prather maybe shows we are now loaded, hire out Prather in starting 5
Cotton will get absolutely lit up by Cadee....you heard it here first
SteveK2
Years ago
Ugh MT in the building... I'm prediciting atrocious officiating...
its only been 4 minutes, but wow the wildcats look a very dangerous side with this starting 5
Luuuc
Years ago
Martin pulling the trigger early.
I have no idea why.
Looks like the sleeping giant has come out of it's slumber
Boy oh boy looks like the Cats are starting to get hot
SteveK2
Years ago
Cotton looking good so far. Very patient and in control.
Newley looks like he opts for the $15 haircut by the apprentice.
Whats the record for points on debut by a Wildcat?
Cotton is impressive so far. Sweet from outside and his passing has looked great.
Don't let him sit, 6-0 run as soon as he was benched
Wildcats start to struggle so super coach makes the right move, brings in Redhage over Prather
SteveK2
Years ago
Kings rotation starting to show its depth. Gaze substitution pattern is the best I've seen all season.
Gleeson starts the whole bench against kings starting 5. Then brings in redhage with wagstaff on at same time. Timeout? Nah let's put redhage in.
SteveK2
Years ago
That's impressive stat on Newley that Shane Heal put up, he's almost 2:1 assist turnover ratio. That's PG like stat!
Randle vs Cotton (and Damo) is going to be one hell of a match up next week
You can only imagine Cotton is only going to get better with more playing time and gets more familiar with his teammates.
Train
Years ago
Stats have Cotton down for 0 assists...I swear he had at least one to Mckay in the first quarter.
Half time and Wildcats up 4 and Prather only on 2 points, I feel like thats probably never happened before.
I'm so sick of the wildcats not being able to execute or defend a pick and roll
BOL
Years ago
Prather looking a bit sluggish tonight. Being on a road double perhaps Gleeson is managing his minutes where he can.
MACDUB
Years ago
As good at Martin is at defence; he does get away with a lot of contact and body banging that other PGs would typically get called for. Not taking anything away from him..he is a defensive beast..just an observation.
Luuuc
Years ago
Double crap. #4
A frustration foul due to getting no love whatsoever from the refs this game :/
SteveK2
Years ago
McDowell-White showing his hyped up talent. Kid can definitely play.
Even with Damo on limited minutes, how is Wroe still getting court time with Martin, Cotton, Kenny in the team.
That's right Casey keep the assists down and fouls up. This is Cottons team now.
I'd like to know what wagstaff and hire are on, surely won't be seeing both next season
No offense to Damo but the ball needs to be in Cottons hands.
The league has become too good for the likes of hire wag staff and recharge to be decent role players anymore. It's done it's time to move on.
Some of these travel calls are getting beyond a joke
Luuuc
Years ago
I think they've been correct on the travel calls. Players just need to stop travelling.
AussiePride
Years ago
Sydney don't seem to have worked out that if they want to win they have to get the ball in the basket. Plenty of opportunity but terrible shooting.
SteveK2
Years ago
It'd be mind-boggling if Cats lose this one.
Gaze needs to think long and hard about his offense. The shuffle and living by the 3pt isn't working.
Cotton's 26 is the highest by a Wildcat on debut, 1 more then some bloke named James Ennis...
The defending champs look like they are the team to beat. If they get home court advantage title is theirs
Jo
Years ago
Will done our championship coach, always had faith you in you.
SteveK2
Years ago
Cotton is definitely in the Randle and Ware class. Once he settles in, the Cats are going to be real tough. They'll definitely tear someone a new one if everyone fires.
Maelbourne and Sydney THEN DAYLIGHT? BUWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HAHAHA
cavolo
Years ago
settle down cats fans, they almost lost the game still... Lucky Sydney were ice cold in the 4th... Perth still make it look so hard to score...
Two quality road wins for the Champs in the space of a week. Need to take care of business in Brissy and get the number 2 spot. Then the 6ers showdown where if they win they will only be 1 game from the top spot.
Yep the team no one wants to face is starting to click into gear.
"settle down cats fans, they almost lost the game still..."
While it was close at stages, they never looked too troubled. Considering Damo was limited and Prather had a shocker, its scary to think what this team could do when everyone is 100% and playing at their best.
McKay not only blocks everything he also alters so many shots with his long arms.
Air Delay
Years ago
Lisch & Newley look burnt out... with the Kings lighter schedule and maybe a small reduction in minutes, the Kings could be back this year?
Looked like the Kings played 4 guys for 30+ minutes tonight, where as the trend for most other teams seems to be less minutes, more player rotation & quality time rather than lots of time.
If/when Lisch & Newley spark hot form again, the Kings'll be dangerous again.
Air Delay
Years ago
McKay was AWESOME tonight. Played his role to perfection. Inspires effort. Love it!
If Lisch is running on fumes it's because Kings have no backup at the 1 spot. He has to do everything.
AngusH
Years ago
Shuffle does not work. I think we posted Powell up once, and Whittington once. Lisch is having to create his own offense on isos, Newls just drives outside the offense... it just doesn't work.
Defensively we gave up some easy ones and Cotton shot the lights out, but if we execute on the other end with the talent we have we aren't sitting at .500...
Mcdowell-White had a bad turnover but otherwise he looked like our 3rd best player of the night but probably only logged 10 or so mins?
Jumpshot
Years ago
As I said 8 weeks ago, the Kings need an import PG, who can drive, create and shoot from anywhere on court. So who do they get??? Blake and then Jackson. Other teams get Randle, Trice, Ware and Cotton. My prediction 8 weeks ago: it's Bye bye season, due to a totally unbalanced team, a weak bench, running an outdated shuffle offence, and poor shooting.
We all knew Perth was going to make run and with this new GEM running the show they could win anywhere anytime now.If they get the top spot or number 2 spot in the playoffs good luck beating them.
BOL
Years ago
The cats need to start taking care of the ball better and limiting their turnovers. Damo will get better, Prather seemed fatigued or injured tonight but he will get better and if wagstaff can show some shooting consistency like he did last game against the hawks then they will be a title contender.
I for one have been a detractor of Gleeson but cudos to him for scouting cotton. Hes the type of player they've needed all season. Hopefully Marvin will learn to leave the recruiting decisions to the coach. What a difference the right type of player makes.
Air Delay
Years ago
You're pretty spot on @Jumpshot, but Lisch & Newley are in that same class as penetrators, however the shuffle O doesn't give them an open drive from the top. I'm sure if the court was opened up or flattened out Lisch & Newley would wreak havoc penetrating & creating.
Bill on the ball
Years ago
Brissy will also suffer the same consequence on Monday.
Alan
Years ago
Well done Gleeson, great scouting with cotton. Should of let you get him at the start of the season. Instead they went with Neilson choice of JJ.
SteveK2
Years ago
In one of the NBL news article, Gleeson mentioned that he's been scouting Cotton for 2 years. Obviously from what you saw tonight, he was always going to be on demand somewhere and it was just pure luck that he was available at this time of the NBL season. If Cotton had chosen to play somewhere safer than Turkey, he probably wouldn't be here.
No coincidence that Brandt has looked good in the last two games to. He is bullying people with his huge frame in the low post and using that hook shot to good effect.
Train
Years ago
Cotton is a great pickup. Patient on offence, great passing ability and he looks to be a much better shooter than I thought he would be. Those threes and most his free throws were nothing but net. Looking forward to watching him play again.
McKay was huge tonight and Brandt was more aggressive in the post.
Was Prather not well tonight, he looked really flat all game.
Dazz
Years ago
Wow!
Highest score by a Cat on debut. Very impressed.
Did everything we wanted from him, and more.
Mostly just amazed at his instincts. For a guy who is completely new to the team, he was also picking out the right guys at the right time. Only credited with one assist? Seemed like more.
Interesting to see whether he gets even better, or whether teams will become better prepared.
And lets not forget "Show-Time"! Massive game from him. He's been steadily improving, and as I'd hoped, he looks so much better with Damo and Cotton feeding him.
Just seemed like everyone was being used better, and playing their roles better tonight. (Except Prather, but great that our best player can have an off night, and everyone else stepped up.)
LV
Years ago
Cats then daylight.
J/K.
But, Cats vs United for the GF if they can both get healthy and remain so. Big IF tho since two United starters are now injured.
Love how Alan the expert cites "Nielson's choice of JJ."
No cred if you can't even spell his name correctly, yet you want to believe what you say is true. / rolleyes
Kings needed a point guard so they bring in an under sized 4 man. What's the point of having Prewster and not playing him, as with garlepp coming on after Jackson who looked right out of his depth. Hill and Moller have contributed well when given the chance but seem out favour.
Kings defence is not up to it exspecially with Lisch and Newely starting to look very tired, they are the easiest side to shoot the three on.
Positive was McDowell Whites 10 minutes.
I see a Perth V Adelaide GF series. However gets HCA should win.
Hoopster
Years ago
Jack Toft & ROFLcopter great prediction for the game kids. Kings got crowned by a newbie, Prather had a shit game, Damo not match fit & Matty still healthy.
Haters be shiting themselves, now top 4 have all played more games than the Cats. Plus Cats have a heap of home games.... What ya gonna do !!
Luuuc
Years ago
Cats have 10 games remaining. 5 of them are at home.
Hoopster
Years ago
"Cotton will get absolutely lit up by Cadee"....you heard it here first.
I heard it... but didn't see it douch bag.
Cotton single handedly killed a loaded team !!
Dazz
Years ago
It just shows how competitive the league is. Add one good player and suddenly Perth are back in with a shot.
Still a long way to go.
Zodiac
Years ago
I wouldn't get too excited just yet Marvelle Harris put up similar numbers in his debut we'll see if Cotton keeps it up when other teams have had a chance to scout him.
Very good debut though, highly efficient.
last time I checked harris never played in the nba........
Ras Posse
Years ago
Wildcats probably never should have played Casey Prather tonight because he was in the hospital today in the bed next to Nathan Sobey with gastro.
Tom
Years ago
Cotton looks the goods.Perth take over as the new standard bearer for mine. Only saw him not in control twice. When he tried to shake and bake Newley and when he threw it off Martin's foot. Apart from that he let he game come to him and did not force plays.
Time and space he seemed to have.
Prather was dreadful. Why is he ever allowed to dribble at any time other than a slash to hoop or transition. Those handoffs from Knight were just UGLY. And so unnecessary. the guy is one of the best athletes in the league go back door and throw the ball somewhere near the hoop and he will get it.
MacKay picked up the slack though. He was super and immediately showed what a mobile, agile big can do with Cotton on the floor.
Down the stretch Gleeson should play the 3 guards Martin, Cotton and Kenny with Prather as his 4 and Mackay who has some ball handling skills.
Kings need to post up Newley when they need a bucket. I like their defence although it does not have the intensity of earlier in the season.
They're probably scraping for 4th though now.
Wilson Sting
Years ago
Unfortunately PER, (like MEL and ADL), have no depth. So their run to the playoffs will depend entirely on about 3 players; if anything happens to any of them it's all over.
Teams like NZ and CNS however, have great depth, just not any real superstar power up front (Penney aside).
It's an interesting mix in the league and I guess that's why it's such a close and entertaining season.
"It just shows how competitive the league is. Add one good player and suddenly Perth are back in with a shot.
Still a long way to go."
Well you're right, but the other thing to remember is it wasn't like Perth was an awful team before. The losses were mainly tight ones. The margins are slim though that when you add minutes to guys like Cotton and Martin and you remove minutes for a guy like Wroe it can be the difference between winning and losing.
Brunson
Years ago
Wilson Sting "PER, (like MEL and ADL), have no depth", "Teams like NZ and CNS however, have great depth" lol Where you drunk when you wrote that?
If I was Sydney I would still get rid of Jackson and replace him with an import point guard even though that guard wouldn't qualify for finals.
1. They will have a much better chance to make the finals
2. Their fans will get satisfaction of seeing home wins.
3. It would be a good test to see if that import is good enough to be selected next season.
4. Jackson offers them nothing
I think Sydney would still be able to compete in the finals with the import providing relief for the rest of the players during the regular season as well as giving them a must needed spark.
Prather looked out of sorts last night and I expect the league to make an official announcement next week.
@ Brunson, just watched the replay and Jackson was very poor, even the tip in basket and board was actually Powels, I'm not certain how this plays out with rest of the team.
Jvg should just stick to being GM. He travels to every away game too.
Let the coaches select their players. No GM interference please. Look what they have now as a result.
Wildcats are currently $2.05 underdogs against Brisbane.
Even though they're playing 2 away games in 3 days, I would have thought they'd start favourites?
Other than Cottons 34min, no one else played anything too ridiculous. Knight/McKay 28min, Prather 24min, Damo 18min, Kenny 19min and the rest of the bench no more then about 10-15min.
Wildcats looked pretty impressive yesterday, and Brisbane haven't looked too great this year and are without Bairstow and Petrie.
Thinking of rolling over a little bit of the profit I've made this weekend, but not sure if I'm missing something?
Wildcats seem to play poorly in QLD. Plus someone took Dolla's number, so he is pissed.
Perth Wilburs
Years ago
Wildcats are shocking in QLD and are shocking away from home. Brisbane plays tighter and will not give Cotton room to move. Prather looks seriously out of form, and Martin may play limited minutes depending on how his knee pulls up.
I'll say Martin either plays very limited minutes or none at all.
Brisbane $1.40 Wildcats $2.20 Line @ -6.5 $1.85
whatisit
Years ago
can someone pls explain the differences between the kings offense and other teams offense. It all looks pretty much the same to me. Perimeter passes, pick and rolls , slashes to the basket.
I think everyone is caught up in "the shuffle", but what is it the Kings are doing different!!!!!
Luuuc
Years ago
We haven't won away from Perth since our last game and also the game before that.
Perth Wilburs
Years ago
Kings shuffles on the same line but move around like crabs. Think of Frogger.
After a couple of away wins they've shown they're capable of winning on the road. I also don't think we can compare this cats team too much to the one from a few weeks ago, it's a completely different side now. IMO i'd have thought it'd be around Cats $1.70 Bullets $2.08
Dazz
Years ago
Well you're right, but the other thing to remember is it wasn't like Perth was an awful team before. The losses were mainly tight ones. The margins are slim though that when you add minutes to guys like Cotton and Martin and you remove minutes for a guy like Wroe it can be the difference between winning and losing.
Yes, that was my point. Perth were doing ok, but in this season it probably wasn't enough to make the 4. Bring back Damo, replace JJ with Cotton, and they have improved just enough to look like making it.
But as someone else said, its still very competitive, an injury here or there could rule out an otherwise aspiring team.
koberulz
Years ago
If I was Sydney I would still get rid of Jackson and replace him with an import point guard even though that guard wouldn't qualify for finals.They're not allowed to.
Martin may play limited minutes depending on how his knee pulls up.Gleeson said during the week that best case, he'd play one game this weekend.
Wilson Sting
Years ago
"Wilson Sting "PER, (like MEL and ADL), have no depth", "Teams like NZ and CNS however, have great depth" lol Where you drunk when you wrote that?"
Unfortunately no, i've gone dry for January, so I'm happy to stand by my comments. When I say no depth, I'm referring to the bench players, and they look ordinary for PER, MEL and ADL (and SYD for that matter). There's nothing wrong with the depth of their starting fives, but one or two injuries or some players in foul trouble will really test them.
LV
Years ago
Melbourne's bench: Boone, Wesley, Barlow, Odigie, Moore, Tomlinson. Very solid.
Perth: Brandt, Wagstaff, Hire, Redhage, Kenny, Wroe/Bragg. OK.
Problem is, injuries to guys like Martin, Knight, Goulding, Blanchfield and Andersen mean that lots of these guys have had to step into the starting 5 which has led to mixed results. But if both benches were consistently playing as, well, benches yoy would probably respect the depth of both teams more.
"One or two injuries" to the wrong people will test pretty much every team in the history of basketball.
LV
Years ago
Wagstaff and Hire are good example of what I'm talking about, both have played roles in successful Perth teams for many years. Are they starting material? Maybe, maybe not (definitely not with Hire). Same with Wesley, who played a big role in 2 successful years in NZ. Tomlinson led the league in assists, leading a playoff team. The league has improved, he hasn't. But still a role player. Boone, Moore both experienced vets with solid international resumes. Kenny has played plenty of Tall Blacks including a World Cup. And was huge last yr, holding the fort for Damo and helping Perth win the title.
Decent benches. Full of starters? Maybe not, but that's not a knock.
koberulz
Years ago
"They're not allowed to."Becuase that's the rule.
Why not?
Train
Years ago
There was a rule preventing Harrington coming into the Kings lineup with only a few games to play a couple of years back IIRC. Pretty sure the rules are there needs to be atkeast 8 games remaining to be bring in an import. I may be wrong that's what my understanding was.
whatisit
Years ago
everyone is talking SHUFFLE as the reason for the Kings demise, BUT no one knows what the SHUFFLE is!!!!!!!!!!!
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