LC
Years ago

Olympics: Opals vs France

One would think the Opals can account for World #4 France who are minus their best player in Celine Dumerc.

Preview: Opals looking for revenge against France

However the Opals have not appeared to be as unified as the Boomers at Rio to date. Will be interesting to see how they go, especially if they are challenged.

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Andy  
Years ago

Alarm is set again, Im going to be totally buggered by the end of the week!
Japan has had 2 really great wins already, 1pt win over Belarus and easily beat Brazil by only 2 less points than the Opals did and kept them to 66 points, same as the Opals did.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

If we don't step up a gear we could easily drop this one, just as we did in London, which is the game that cost us a top 2 finish there. France may have lost their starting PG but they still have some experience and quality in the front court.

Hopefully the day off has recharged our batteries.
I want to see much more movement, and some attack mode from everyone rather than just Liz.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anybody know which channel tonight?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

7two at 1:15am AEST

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I've lowered my expectations for the Opals.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Burton got a rebound!
Our fortunes are turning around here.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Opals lead 21-19 at quarter time.

Liz looked on a mission and then promptly sat herself on the bench with foul #2 after only 3:30 on court. Grrrrrr....

Penny has finally shown up though.

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koberulz  
Years ago

Website is down again, shockingly. At least NBL TV loaded.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Eww, horrible basketball.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I thought Penny Taylor has blood running down her neck. Turns out it's leftovers of a scratch? She's getting beat up out there.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Leilani, Penny & Liz should never all be sitting at the same time.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No 6 not up to the defence needed against France. Bring on George and set the screens and get her hot hand ready for the 4th quarter.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thank you for showing up and showing out Penny Taylor. Finally.

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koberulz  
Years ago

Watching on a borrowed iPad, which just cut to the national anthems.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lavey could easily blow by players but she's too scared to take it to the rack.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lavey & Burton just showed their weakness

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Anonymous  
Years ago

George finally in to outperform burton again no doubt.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Not with lame passes like that she won't
:/

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bulldog  
Years ago

Close to muting sound. Horrible commentary. Shocking combination of someone who clearly doesnt know anything about basketball and Lauren Jackson who needs to be prompted to speak most of the time.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

There we go George.. Leave her on coach

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Terrible coverage, commentators and news anchors all round.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Did Liz just call out F Yeah on Tolos last shot .. Ha ha

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nothing weong with Kaylas pass. Ebzery should have moved to the ball and know her defender

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Oh please. That pass was laughably bad.

Nice half though. Much more Opals-like.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Exactly ebzery needed to move. Basic basketball.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Allen, batkovic, Blicavs would have been handy :)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cambage only played 3.35 mins

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Agree.. Most boring commentary.. Someone needs to tell them this is not Sat arvo ABC.. It's the Olympics and commercial tv. All commentators should have been forced to sleep with Lawrie Lawrence and other excited commentators to fire them up. This os Australia vs France and out ladies are leading the game... Come on, get excited... Get Liz on the mike. F Yeah...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sleep with headphones in listening to them that is.. Ha ha..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Senior Men on the way up..
Senior women on the way down..

pretty much half our team at the end of there international career after rio.

We need someone new to rebuild.
Why can't seebohm coach all 3 of our women's teams?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Pleae neve ever have lavey and burton on at the same time. Hodges and George on please stat

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lavey had an open layup about 4 times and kept dishing at the last moment.

Burton... What can you say?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That last 5 was all wrong and Poor phillips being treated like second rate player having that conbo to work woth. You are not there to be liked coach. No need to get everyone on in this game especially.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

He certainly micro-manages from the sidelines doesn't he.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I vote seebohm...
Cool, calm, collected and has got the job done with class every single time.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Well this one's all but in the bag :)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Penny Taylor. Bloody brilliant. Bae.

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Andy  
Years ago

Burton and Lavey doing their best to keep the French in it!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Awful rushed shot by ebzery. Move it around and take time offp

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Taylor absolute legend and role model for all female players. Vision to die for and effort effort and effort with a big sprinkle of self belief

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Anonymous  
Years ago

USA, Spain and Canada have looked better so far this tournament.
Japan might surprise.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Get that rwf some glasses. Rewound that and no where near out.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That was a light call on the french by the same ref

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Anon  
Years ago

I would love to know why Joyce is such a fan of Burton. She is horrible and barely gets by in WA SBL let alone on the International stage.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Final score 89-71

PFT 31 points @ 77%, 9 assists, 5 boards, 3 steals & a block celebrating the 10 year anniversary of her nickname in the same country she earned it.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

his ego..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Night all. Sleep in Wed night...7.30 Thurs US v Boomers..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Burton 2 rebounds, 1 ast. 13:38
Lavey 3 points, 1 rebound, 1 assist, 1 steal, 5 turnovers. 14:57

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getonboard  
Years ago

3 from 3 great start by the team. Fine tuning will see further improvement.

Still cannot believe the number of "haters" posting negative comments

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lol,
burton 49 minutes played for 2 rebounds, 4 points and 2 assists total.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Penny Taylor 31 points and 1 assist shy of an Olympic double double.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Much better performance by the team. Liz fouling herself to the bench early was almost a blessing in disguise in a way. Movement was far better, and Hodges & Tolo did well with their minutes.
Strange use of Talbot - entering the game in the 1st quarter but that was about it for her.

Penny's ridiculous game made it a bit flattering though. Still significant improvement needed, but at least we looked a better team than in games 1 & 2.

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paul  
Years ago

You nailed it the other day Luuuc when you talked about the offence in Turkey two years ago, quick ball movement and the players just taking what the defence gave them. It was beautiful to watch.

With Cambage in the middle it has changed, she can't really play that style, but she is a great focal point so needs to be used.

It was forced by foul trouble but I think tonight showed it works best with Liz in smaller doses as a focal point and then quick moving team offence the rest of the time.

Great win, now 3-0 and +41, can't complain about that. Now for Japan, they could well be an interesting test.

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paul  
Years ago

Also, great to see Hodges back in the rotation, she's an important player for us.

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LC  
Years ago

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Andy  
Years ago

It was good for Liz to get a good rest during this game, she will be the difference against a smaller Japanese team, expect her to have a massive game.

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getonboard  
Years ago

watching/listening to the timeouts, the team are executing what Joyce wants. Harmony appears great! Liz also is on board.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Another top performance by our superstar Opals, Cambage and Taylor the render covering the limited contribution from Joyces mistakes.
Just wait for team USA and the real time medal contenders.

USA are going to eat the opals and watch Joyce choke when the finals start and over play Burton, Lavey, Hodges.

Can't wait for it to get serious and the girls play a team that are contenders. So far it's been far from impressive from anyone outside Cambage and Taylor.

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_Strungout_  
Years ago

Good win v France - somewhat of a bogey team...

They seemed to miss Dumerc more then I thought, she was a main reason for the win v the opals in 2012.

Great to see Taylor play so well. Shame she is hanging up the boots, she still have a lot to offer.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

It is a shame, yes. She wants to go out on her own terms and while she is still playing good basketball rather than waiting until she is no longer wanted, and I totally respect that.
But from a selfish viewpoint, even when she slows down even further she'd still be an instant inclusion in the 2018 WC team due to her basketball iq. She's the Opals all-time leader in that category, with daylight in second place and night time in 3rd.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's entirely possible she knows her body won't hold up another year. She's missed a lot of time since she went down with the ACL.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

The time she has missed (other than the ACL recovery itself) was all voluntary though. She has just been super smart with her workload, with the aim of being 100% for these Olympics and then being able to have a crack at one last WNBA title when they're over. Skipping the last WNBA season, opting for a partial Chinese season over playing WNBL ... she has timed it perfectly. The ultimate pro.

I've got no doubt she could manage her body through another 2 years if she wanted to. She just doesn't want to, and fair enough too. It'd be a long commitment for very little financial reward. (If 2018 was an Olympic year rather than a WC one, I suspect it might be a different story)

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XY  
Years ago

2019 is the next WCs (not 2018).

That extra year will see a lot of aging players retire from international basketball after this Olympics.

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paul  
Years ago

Women in 2018, men in 2019.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

In related news, I read Brondello has been prepping Taylor for an ass't gig with the Mercury.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Following that up with a link to the article about Brondello and Taylor
http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/brondello-knows-opals-have-game-to-beat-usa/3073137/

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Sandy might be mentoring herself out of a job the way Phoenix is travelling this season.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Players most likely to play at next international tournaments
Lavey
Ebzery
Jarry
Talbot
Tolo
Cambage

Probably last major tournament (world's/olympics)
Mitchell
Phillips
Taylor
Hodges
George
Burton

Thats a hell of a lot of experience to lose.

Definitely a major rebuilding phase after rio.





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XY  
Years ago

Apologies for incorrectly correcting you Luuuc

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koberulz  
Years ago

Women in 2018, men in 2019.
Why are they staggering them?

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Andy  
Years ago

Anon, George and Burton are the same age as Tolo, why wouldn't they be playing the worlds at age 29?
Mitchell and Phillips would be 33, younger than what Taylor is now, if they want to keep playing I would think both would be capable.

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paul  
Years ago

Kobz, FIBA created a new calendar for men based on getting more of the best players at the WC. The main strategy to achieve that is making the WC the qualifier for the Olympics, hence the move to the year beforehand.

Another strategy is having only one continental championship every four years (currently every two) so players have one year every four where there isn't a tournament in the off-season. FIBA decided to make that the middle year (ie 2018, 2022 etc) and have the women’s WC as the showpiece basketball event of that year.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think Tolo is the better player over the other 2 both at centre and pf.
IMO both George and burton will be replaced by some of the younger players.

Maybe
SF/PF
6'2 K.Froling-wnbl
6'2 Blicavs-wnbl
PF
6'3 A.Froling-college
6'3 Aokuso-Coe
6'4 Smith-college
6'5 Mijovic-wnbl
C
6'4 Magbegor-Coe
6'5 Scherf-wnbl
6'5 Bunton-Wnbl

I could be wrong..
Burton and George might outperform some of these girls in 3 years time.
Interesting times though..

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koberulz  
Years ago

So the changes to the international schedule only apply to the men?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^^ Burton and George if they have not improved by now another three years will not make much difference, they will just be even slower, Blicavs, SCHERF and Bunton will be in their prime with plenty of experience under their belts too

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Rest will still be in college and NO experience playing against women, those in the WNBL would be better than the college kids of Smith and Froling, Cof E kids probably still too young

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paul  
Years ago

At this point Kobz, yes. I believe FIBA are looking at the women's side of things now, but I doubt there is the revenue to run home and away WC qualifiers like the men at this stage.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Point is, most of those you are listing will never be any good. In AFL terms they are called list cloggers - average players at a point in time who will never be great.

Get them out of the way while we rebuild after this event.

Seebohm is almost completely unproven but shows promise.

Nice guy - tick
Coaching pedigree - not considered good enough for WNBL
Coach of u17 world champion team - major tick - smart enough to work well with assistants and gifted with a new golden generation of talent.
So, time will tell. Give him the COE gig, let him assist Goriss at u19 worlds and develop him, just like you should the young playing talent coming through.

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paul  
Years ago

Seebohm was arguably the best coach in the WNBL and I believe he then turned down a contract extension. He's certainly considered good enough.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Gorris is out of CofE now he's at the helm of Canberra WNBL , doubt he would be doing un19 worlds

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Doesn't seebohm head nsw develop now?
Nsw certainly need him.

A lot of our u19 team will become opals in the future. No doubt in my mind.
Our biggest issue is that pf position.

We really don't have any nice young prospects in the wnbl atm for that position.
Too old or undersized.
Mijovic, Thompson and Garbin Spring to mind.

Froling has been fantastic at Smu.
Smith hasn't played extensive minutes at Stanford but was one of our best at worlds.
Magbegor still only 17. Too early perhaps.
A few young girls at Coe that are a long way away.

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wayne  
Years ago

Waiting for end of Olympics stats on Burton and how Joyce could justify her spot.

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paul  
Years ago

One he would point to for both Burton and Hodges is that in five official internationals this year (3 at OQT, 2 in Rio) Endy Miyem was averaging 15.2p at 60%, 3.4or and 2.6a. Against the Opals she had 10p at 36%, 0 o-boards and 1a.

The two of them did a super job, especially keeping her off the offensive glass.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Seebohm was only offered 1 year - hence no longer there. Goriss not at COE but still in Canberra and should coach 19s if any sanity prevails.

Frolings, Scherf, Smith etc. all fringe senior national players at their very best.

Magbegor an undersized centre, definitely not a PF, no range and won't ever have range, can't facilitate. Occasional rim protecting highlights and slashing to the basket will be her thing. Can shot block at low post but can only really defend the 5, not an elite team defender.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Undersized?
194cm currently. No doubt she will end up 6'5.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

College ball is a long way from WNBA/WNBL and the Olympics.....SMU play in one of the weakest comps for women,
Don't compare USA Stewart to the rest in college, she was outstanding from day one, and even she isn't a main player YET for USA.

All these names being thrown around need to be able to make the transition into women's basketball, and those in college now will still be in college by next worlds.

It's not saying any of them aren't good players for their age, but be realistic

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"College ball is a long way from WNBA/WNBL and the Olympics"

And the WNBL is a long way from the WNBA or even EuroLeague.

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Anonymous  
Years ago


"College ball is a long way from WNBA/WNBL and the Olympics"

And the WNBL is a long way from the WNBA or even EuroLeague.

That's my point.......

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Camel 31  
Years ago

There's an old saying in Basketball : ' Get loose .'

I'd be unable to play properly with this Opals coach.
Tooo nervous for me.
Shut up and let them play.

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