Bring back Brian Goorjian

or prime Leon Trimmingham.

I really don't see how he is good for the league, unless you're going down the "any publicity is good publicity" path. He is a high profile player for sure but his numerous displays of petulance aren't a good look.

Numerous displays? I know he had the one incident (the flying elbow one) but what else has he done Chalmers? Or are you just a Perth fan tryna hate?

I don't know what tryna means.

The flying elbow and his poor attitude with that was bad enough. But also he has tweeted shit about the league and the refs on at least two occasions, and he also was suspended this season for following, abusing and threatening refs.

If we can avoid the nonsense of Bring Back Brian as I think that has been done to death, yes?

I agree that management screwed Cotter over, but it's not like he had a whole team of chumps, he still didn't have the best effort during games and couldn't or wouldn't fire his team up... His key players (before getting injured) weren't used properly and they started off the season absolutely crap on D and it didn't get better... The only positives that I can think of are the rumours that he wanted to cut Thornton pre-season, but was overruled...

It doesn't change the fact that the Kings need a significantly more qualified head coach to make any headway... The only acception I'd make would be if we can tempt Nielsen back if Trev's multi-year offer comes good... He's been learning under some really good organisations, is probably the most identifiable local Kings player and could actually be a drawcard for fans and players...

Supernintendo Chalmers, I think you're using "numerous" incorrectly... Two incidents (the latter re: refs was justified and happened in the same round as Cedric Jackson's F-bomb on live tv as he screamed at the refs wasn't it and he didn't even get called on it?) and I can't remember him ever tweeting shit about the league. He's not alone in tweeting about the refs, NUMEROUS players have done that numerous times, and he's done it a LOT less than Unitard players, so that shouldn't make him stand out... Randle had a bitch about the refs and no calls on him in his farewell letter, didn't he? Have you been saying that he's not good for the league as well?

He's brought some ex-NBA credibility to the league and has helped with the recruitment of Hakim Warrick, which I think you'll agree has turned out ok? Getting Al Harrington in was a big boost as well, and even if not all of them have been huge successes, it still gives the league some extra credibility... Not saying that he's the be all and end all saviour, but it's helped...

A big name NBA player tweeting that "these refs are the worst I've ever seen" or similar has far worse impact that a unknown United player saying the same.

I doubt his criticism would have much impact, especially when he's right... I think you're making a huge deal about nothing, especially if it was only once or twice...

Who determines that he is right? Kings fans?

I'm not making a huge deal out of anything. I have stated the things he has done wrong in the two seasons he has been here. Been suspended twice, rubbish the refs at least twice, bagged the league once - thats five separate incidents, and why I used the word "numerous."

Is that what you want from your highest profile player?

It's not ideal, and agree it's not a good look, but doesn't mean he should be punted from the league.

If you're going to group a few tweets in with his actual incidents of note, then you're not being rational...

After getting the wooden spoon the Kings can rebuild slowly through the draft.

Coming from the guy who thinks chasing down and threatening the referees was justified...

These days I wonder if Chalmers is just a troll..... Smh.

btw "tryna" means trying, I thought you'd know that.

You name all the bad things he's done for the league, let's name some good for things.

Brought in Warrick, Harrington and James. Has basically become the face of the league. Last season (2014/15) brought a lot of new fans to Kings games and has down right been one of the most talented players in the league....

As for the coach, if Dennis is available I'd be going hard for him. I'm sure we can offer him more money then the Crocs can.

Next season, we need a good import PG, so someone like Clarke, Randle, Holt or even Sanders would fit the role. Also with 3 imports coming into the league next season, it would probably be smart (if we resign Childress) to either get a backup SF, or a starting 2 guard who's big enough to play SF. Like Prather

Also, I don't know how much money or points cap wortho would be demanding but if we can't get back Garlepp (or even if we can) Wortho could a decent pickup.

If we're going to want to do well, we need someone to lead the bench. So maybe a back up import of sort to lead, if not someone like Stiendl or Wortho would be great off the bench.

I say keep Squiddi, but try and get rid of Hill and go for someone like Wortho or Walker.

Brought in Warrick, Harrington and James.

Has basically become the face of the league.

As for the coach, if Dennis is available I'd be going hard for him. I'm sure we can offer him more money then the Crocs can.

Funny, I don't actually wonder anything about you.

"Has basically become the face of the league. Last season (2014/15) brought a lot of new fans to Kings games and has down right been one of the most talented players in the league...."

If only you'd stopped and thought about what you were about to post before tryna make my point for me.

You wouldn't happen to be a Wildcats fan Chalmers?

Also what you're telling me is that he's done more bad for the league then good?

I just looked at the NBL website. His face is nowhere to be seen. Obviously its the wrong time of the season for the Kings but on the awards decal which shows one player for each team, they went with Khazzouh.

I wouldn't say more bad than good but its not like he has used his profile in a wonderful manner at all times like some people would have you believe.

I can kind of agree on that, but at the same time, he's only had really 2 incidents (now that I think about, as I hadn't remembered the second suspension), however I don't really, recall any tweets. Personally I liked him while he was here, however I wouldn't mind if he left.

Can we get back to the original thread topic now?

Wortho too comfortable in Cairns. Family support and good personal sponsorship. However, Melbourne could be made a drawcard as he likes the media work.

Kings will bring back Childress if they are able to, no question. If he's healthy and does well in the NBDL (and possibly NBA) then it's probably not going to happen.

We need to upgrade our backcourt, bring in an import PG with professional experience, a legit 2-man (Madgen?), and have Cadee as first guard off the bench.

Might be controversial, but I let Tommy walk if he's a FA I think... our perimeter D has been woeful and you figure Julian and Brandt are our 4/5 next year, which puts Tommy out on the perimeter again on D where he just can't close out on guys quickly enough and sags off bigs who can shoot (Kickert). I'd be OK with him in a bench role, but I think he could easily sign someplace else with a better defensive culture and probably start and average 16ppg. I just think we don't have the team around him in Sydney to make up for his deficiencies.

I am a Cats fan and think Childress is great for the league. For better or worse he got the NBL some coverage and attention (His elbow made SportCentre).

Love your optimism Wookie but I think you'll struggle to get Martin, yes he is from NSW but if he's heading home (which i doubt) he's going to Bevo in the Gong.

Knight is the Cat to chase, if Jawai returns and Beal naturalizes Knight may be the one who gets forced out as Jervis is starting to demand more minutes.

After living in Sydney for 2 years and seeing the Cats vs the Kings and the Hawks everytime the biggest change that needs to happen next season needs to be in the game night entertainment department. olympic park or entertainment centre, it didnt matter the crowd was flat. The announcer is crap, saying 'who's ball' 30 times a night and coming up with nicknames like J Chill is just sad and the crowd seems bored. With the move to olympic park the kings nned to start owning western sydney and get the young familys in the Hills and Penrith areas involved.

Khazzouh / Brandt
Garlepp / Hill
Childress* / Prewster
Import* / Faithful
Cadee / Import*

Imports needed for starting PG and PF.

Childress in or out doesn't bother me but you have to have a quality backup to cover his inevitable injury.

Can't get a starting import PF, already gonna have Garlepp (if we get him) and Hill (who's contracted) there.

I'd like to see an import
PG
Childress and an import backup SG who is big enough to play SF if Childress is injured. Like Prather

Next season, we need a good import PG, so someone like Clarke, Randle, Holt or even Sanders would fit the role.

As for the coach, if Dennis is available I'd be going hard for him. I'm sure we can offer him more money then the Crocs can.

Citation needed on Warrick, and James...was not a good thing.

We need to upgrade our backcourt, bring in an import PG with professional experience, a legit 2-man (Madgen?), and have Cadee as first guard off the bench.

Might be controversial, but I let Tommy walk if he's a FA I think...

Love your optimism Wookie but I think you'll struggle to get Martin, yes he is from NSW but if he's heading home (which i doubt) he's going to Bevo in the Gong.

Knight is the Cat to chase, if Jawai returns and Beal naturalizes Knight may be the one who gets forced out as Jervis is starting to demand more minutes.

the biggest change that needs to happen next season needs to be in the game night entertainment department

Childress in or out doesn't bother me but you have to have a quality backup to cover his inevitable injury.

Can't get a starting import PF, already gonna have Garlepp (if we get him) and Hill (who's contracted) there.

@ anon 594;

No head coaching experience, just someone who watches a lot of games. Garlepp is great offensively and was probably our most consistent scorer. Scoring has not been the problem for us though. We are a sieve on defense inside and out, but our perimeter defense is particularly attrocious. Frantic overhelping, closing out on non-shooters, etc. I'm not laying the blame all on Tommy, but he is a bad perimeter defender and has been for years.

Slide him to the 4 spot and he's just not a good enough rebounder and not strong enough to guard guys on the blocks, although he does put in the effort.

Kings biggest focus if they want to go from wooden spoon to contenders should be defense, rebounding, and getting a steady playmaker, in that order.

Isn't he naturalising?

@D4444, from what I've heard, the 3 import rule is (most likely) going to happen, unless the NBL decides other wise, but as of now I think it is happening (although it hasn't been officially announced).

As for Garlepp, I wouldn't be surprised if he went over to Brisbane and if letting him go means we can get someone like Motum, then it would be worth it, but I'd prefer to keep him just in case.

If the Kings are going to at least try and win, Cadee needs to be benched. I know before the start of last season I said we should've given him a chance, but it's clear he can't lead a team.

Like I said before, we need an import PG, but not a scoring PG, or a PG coming straight out of college, we need an experienced PG, and it would help if he's played in the NBL. So Holt, Wilbekin or even Sanders would be great for that role, except I'm sure there would be some other point guards that are still yet to play in the league out there.

I think having an import SG that can play SF (kind of like Prewster) could be beneficial if we resign Childress, but if we're unable to retain Childress then what would our starting 5 look like? It would be smart to have at least one import off the bench, just to make sure our bench has some extra power.

You'd think our lineup would go:


Import PG/ Cadee
Aussie SG/ Mccarron
Import SF or Childress/ Prewster
Garlepp/Wortho or hill
Khazzouh/ Brandt


The still lots of questions and possibilities with this roster, but if we we're to go with an Aussie SG who would we go for? Like Wookie said, I don't think Madgen will come back so soon, so who else would you put there?
Goulding? Stiendl? I really can't think of any.

The only team position that's set is the Centre position.

I'd disagree with Warrick, but definitely with James... not a good thing at all...

Yes Rex, I agree about Cadee not being starting quality.

The problem I have with the roster you suggest is bigs. As AngusH correctly says, defence was a huge issue last season as was rebounds and your bigs on that roster suck at both. You need to insert somebody who can monster the boards and provide a defensive presence under the basket.

I agree that you need a SG would can switch to SF (that's what I meant to say in my post above but it somehow came out as PF which is a big ask for a guard)

Yeah that's true. We can't let go of Khazzouh though, he's too good, Brandt is still contracted, so we're kind of stuck at the centre position.

Jeromie Hill actually crashes the boards, but as for Garlepp, you share a good point. Who would take his spot? Motum?

That's why my original post had an import PF.

I don't see why Brandt and Khazzouh can't start with an import 3. Khazzouh both have some range on their jumper, so it's not going to kill spacing, and both guys can rebound, block shots, and defend inside. Bring back Vandenberg and have him and Hill backing up 5/4 spots, with Prewster at the 2/3 and Cadee first guard off the bench.

You would need an outstanding defensive coach and very good perimeter defenders to make that work.

Agree, but the Kings need both of those things regardless of who suits up at the 4 or 5 spots!

That was the word on Vandenberg when they signed him, but he looked like a legit backup in his limited time for the Kings. Not overly skilled but very long and looks to throw everything down around the hoop... a lot more mobile than I expected.

I would like to see how he went if he got his body into professional condition. He definitely showed some potential and wouldn't be the worst pick as a 4th big for a team if they can get him in shape.

Nielsen built big house in Perth, kids at school, well settled. Garlepp's best place is Ilawarra or Brisbane, from his point of view. Sydney taboo for married guys with family unless born and bred. Expenses are horrific. Ellis had his brother, one reason why he signed. Couldn't have been a Perth DP on nothing.

The only non-HC experienced option I'd go with is Nielsen, but as bowtie suggests above, he could be well settled in Perth, but we've seen that before, and with Trev getting an extension and if the right approach was made, you never know... He would be a great drawcard and I still have hope, but otherwise, Vickerman and Dennis would be great options... Vickerman has the runs on the board and getting more as we speak, and Dennis is a proven no-nonsense coach who knows talent and how to get the most out of it...

With Vickerman being a Melbourne boy, and DD not getting his team a championship that was well paid for, I wonder if DV will slot straight into there?

Like any other coach, the ownership/management needs to get the hell out of their way, without question...

sigh... getting pity from Hawks fans? Kings fans have hit a new low... lol

Kings fanbois have a blind spot for anybody wearing purple thus Nielsen gets a free pass. It was the same with Heal until they decided he had to go.

Don't think Rucker will tolerate the board's interference, at any level. He will also need money to spend. Will not suffer fools gladly....and there's quite a few to deal with.

@ D444444444 - Nielsen is the only one that gets a pass as he's been learning from the best organisations in the NBA (Spurs) and NBL... He's not the top of my list, I'd much rather experienced head coaches, 100%, but if they couldn't get them, then the next step down would be Matty, for a variety of reasons... If you can't get Vickerman or Dennis, what other options would be preferable?

Why would you want Nielsen. Jawai has regressed under him.

Heard the 1st rumblings of DV to the Kings today.

Why would you want Nielsen. Jawai has regressed under him.

I think Kings had some good players, just really stuffed by injury. So if you can make the appropriate sacrifices to the injury Gods, things will look up.

Priorities:
1: Identify whoever said no to Lisch and ban them for life.
2: Get a decent coach.
3: Secure Childress.
4: Get Childress to find you a shit-hot SG.
5: Find somebody to backup Chil at the 3.

Coach-wise, I'm not sure who's lined up for Brissy, but I'd be talking to Lemanis.

Based on the current squad, I would be happy with something like this:

Brandt / Vandenberg
Garlepp / Hill
Childress / Prewster
Import SG / Faithfull
Cadee / Carter

I have no idea who is in or out of contract...

I think Vandenberg & Faithfull show promise, and would obviously benefit from full seasons, and some continuity.

Pointswise, I assume Tommy will get a loyalty discount, and hopefully Brandt & Cadee can retain their 6-point ratings.

Obviously I would move Thornton on. You can do so much better in an import.

Personally I would be looking to upgrade Prewster, depending on cash and points, especially since Chil ha sthe habit of getting injured and leaving a massive hole at the 3. I'd consider bringing journeyman Brad Hill back if he's still mates with Garlepp. You'd hope there's be someone better out there, but good uncontracted local players don't grow on trees.

Coach-wise, I'm not sure who's lined up for Brissy, but I'd be talking to Lemanis.

Based on the current squad, I would be happy with something like this:

Brandt / Vandenberg
Garlepp / Hill
Childress / Prewster
Import SG / Faithfull
Cadee / Carter

Wow... so much wrong in that post...

I have no idea who is in or out of contract...

Obviously Lemanis would be highly sought after, hence why I mentioned Brissy, as they would have already been out chasing a coach. If indeed he has already signed there, well that's good for them isn't it. Sydney will need to look elsewhere.
Does anyone know what Vickerman is doing? He appears to have continued the good work at the Breakers.

Ok, let me restate that: I know that 3 players are contracted, one of whom suffered a serious injury, other than that I have no idea who is contracted for the other 7 or 8 positions.

As I said "Based on the existing squad."
What is the point in suggesting a squad including Damian Martin, Matt Knight, or various other speculatives? Yes, there are better players in the NBL than what you've got, if they want to move to Sydney, grab them, but there's no point suggesting a dream team that isn't going to happen.

As it happens, my original post was going to read:
Khaza / Brandt / Vandenberg. LOL
Yes he's a damn fine player, and if he's fit then obviously he plays, but Brandt is good value also.
Yes JV is a rookie, but sometimes that's all you can fit on the bench. If you go 45~50 points for your starting five, that only leaves you 20~25 for your bench. You can't stack it with 8 pointers like Brandt.

I DID overlook the possibility of the "3rd import" speculation. If that happens, and you have the cash, then there are new possibilities.
Assuming not, where should you use your 2nd import slot? Naturally, that's a big question.
Historically, NBL teams have tended to chase high-scoring PG's, and many teams still do.
That leads into the next question, of who runs your point?
Ok, I know there are some Cadee haters amongst Sydney fans, and pity help the fool who suggests you keep him at Point. Personally I like him, and think he'll continue to improve, but that's only my opinion. You could chase an import PG, and Cadee could probably hold his spot as an SG, but he's a bit small. Again, just my opinion.
Carter is a reasonable backup PG. He's not flash, but he's experienced. If he moves on in his quest to play for every NBL team, it's not a big loss. A couple of options that might be available from the Cats are either experience in Kenny, or a rookie in Wroe.

As I said, of the players I listed, the first player I'd be looking to move on is Prewster. I only listed him because he's an incumbent. I think getting yourself a decent 3 for the bench (or even a stretch-4) is important. I actually think that somebody like Hire would be a good fit, but it comes down to availability, points, and cash.

That side runs last again, Vandenburg is only big development player at best. Prewster and Faithful get into foul trouble to easy.

Tl;dr

Isn't Vickerman going to be Lemanis's assistant coach in Brisbane?

sigh... kids today, ey?

Obviously Lemanis would be highly sought after, hence why I mentioned Brissy, as they would have already been out chasing a coach. If indeed he has already signed there, well that's good for them isn't it. Sydney will need to look elsewhere.

I have no idea who is in or out of contract...

Ok, let me restate that: I know that 3 players are contracted

As I said "Based on the existing squad."
What is the point in suggesting a squad including Damian Martin, Matt Knight, or various other speculatives? ... but there's no point suggesting a dream team that isn't going to happen.

NO local players on the horizon and in what ever configuration the Kings turn into, there will be few true locals.

Khazzouh 8? (should be a 9, as under the rules he would be rated based on Europe, not Lebanon?)
Garlepp, if out of contract, should come in around a 8/9, and personally I think he's well worth keeping.
Chill (or another import) is 10.
SG or PG import = 10
Cadee (If you keep him) should come in around an 8. Or a similar player, or a 3rd import @ 10.
So your starting 5 comes in at around 44~48 (which is not atypical) leaving 22~26.

Fortunately Brandt & Hill are contracted, and should both still be 3's.
Going the 3rd import (or an ex-European gun on a 1yr deal as a starter) might be a good strategy for next season, as I'd expect these two to increase significantly.
So say 16~20 to fill your remaining 3 bench spots. That's not bad for bench players, just depends on who's available, and what you want/need.

As mentioned, I'd move Prewster on, and make a backup 3 your next bench priority. I only suggested a Hire type, somebody who plays good D, can grab some boards, can be offensive when he's hot, and would cost the earth. As to who's actually available, well that's the big question isn't it.

Obviously securing your PG is a priority appointment. I rate Cadee, and think he has further potential. But that's a personal opinion, and furthermore another season or 2 as backup to import PG wouldn't hurt. I wouldn't pin any hopes on Markovic.
So an import PG, leaves you looking for either a 3rd import or a local SG. Cadee scores well enough... I don't know how well McCarron is doing in Spain, but if he's heading home Brisbane will be all over him.
Backing up your PG? Well if you can move Cadee (back) to the bench, that's sorted.

One of the issues you will face is that Brissy will be out there chasing any local talent that's not nailed down. They've got a head-start, and if they have already signed Lemanis, then they're ahead again.

Khazzouh 8? (should be a 9, as under the rules he would be rated based on Europe, not Lebanon?)

Exactly... The rules state I think that the higher rated place that a player has played gives the higher rating (ie. NBA[10] over Europe[9]) but Jules was rated as an 8 coming in to this season, so I left it at that...

It's hard to pin down exactly the biggest spots to fill and I think it all comes down to whether Chill comes back, which might not be known for some time... If he was to guarantee that he'd be back unless he gets an NBA gig, I'd take him at his word and hope he doesn't get injured playing in the off season (if he does) and build around that.

I agree that faith should be shown in Cadee to grow his PG skills, but he's still developing and shouldn't have the pressure to run the entire team AND to score... As some others have said elsewhere, if he's paired with someone like a Lisch or a Clarke, then I'd be ok with him starting, but the strength of the team will be if he comes off the bench most games...

Coach first and foremost with management stating in contract, no mucking with THE COACHES team...

If Chill is locked in, definitely PG... If Damo stays in Perth, or goes closer to home at Illawarra (who knows what sort of budget they will have after pushing the limits this season), they need to chase Rotnei, do whatever it takes... He carried an entire Hawks team on his back when he was here, but need to appeal to him culture-wise just as much as anything else...

There's not many local options for an experienced PG... Markovic won't play another game in the NBL, he wasn't even at the last Kings home game with the rest of the team, so there's obviously been a break with the team and his personal issues have been more widely known now...

So that leaves an import... If we can get Clarke (or someone REALLY screws the pooch with Lisch in Illawarra) then we could go local for another starting guard spot or even promote Cadee full time, especially if we can get someone like McCarron (who seems to be doing quite well in Spain) as the third guard, thent eh 4th could even be Indy Faithfull if we get desperate... I know McCarron is a Brissy boy, but as stated elsewhere, I doubt Lemanis will be able to use his National Coach creds for much longer, even though playing in front of family could be a drawcard, he shares an agent with Jules, so we have both a good and bad foot in the door as the agent would know the Kings rep pretty well, but if that changes, could be key... The trouble with Mitch would be what would he be rated? Returning from Europe (to get him back from Spain would be a challenge in itself, even though I'm a huge fan of Sydney, I think Spain might just be a LITTLE bit nicer?) but he's by no means a 9pt player, so hopefully could get reviewed?

Back up to Chill (if we get him) I think could still be Prewster IF he's rated cheaply AND we can get a super 2nd import as well, then the pressure would be off and he could focus on D and hitting the open shots, which he got better as as the season went on... Otherwise might need to chase someone like Steindl? Not the best defender, but a much better shooter...

Bigs are tricky... I'd prefer to ditch Hill, as nice a guy as he is, and maybe try to chase Nick Kay hard, especially if Matty Knight is comfy in Perth... I know we have Gus, but Nick just seems like that tough big guy who just puts his body on the line and is a solid scorer...

Dream Team:
Damo [10] / Cadee [7?]
Clarke* [10] / McCarron [7?]
Childress* [10] / Prewster [?]
Knight [10] / Hill [3]
Khazzouh [8] / Brandt [3]
Total = 68 + Prewster

Hmm... Swapping Garlepp back in for Knight gives us maybe 2 more points, but that's not much...

Ok, so realistically, no Damo... promote Cadee, and...

Cadee [7?] / Faithful [1?]
Clarke* [10] / McCarron [7?]
Childress* [10] / Prewster [?]
Knight [10] / Hill [3]
Khazzouh [8] / Brandt [3]
Total = 59 + Prewster

So that leaves easily 5-6 for Prewster and a few more points if we can't re-rate Mitch down or Cadee goes up a stupid amount... That's three very solid guards, McCarron can spend time at the 3 if needed like Madgen did, and that's three very good bigs that can cover each other and Chill can stretch to 4 for the smaller more athletic teams...

Oh, and pray/sacrifice to the Basketball/Injury gods constantly... there's probably more than a few virgins on here that we could chuck on a pyre somewhere...

yeah, everything all comes down to the coach... Just a shame the best option is still playing Finals...

Hopefully while Chill spoke up in positivity about Joe as a coach, he spoke up more about the management and ownership getting this shit in order or he won't be back as not much else would put a fire under them I don't think...

Unless the import PG is a known, top level quantity, it would be good to try to fill as many spots as possible with top local talent, if available...

Points system wise, the Kings should snap up the dreadlocked kid Moller. He'd be worth 1pt I think? And even though he's 6'9" he plays as a 3-4 man.

Watch a few Sutherland Sharks Waratah games this season!!! The dude even plays a fair bit of point in the local div1 games at Sutho.

Home grown talent, tall, fit, has handles, unselfish, is a beast on the boards & can dunk! : )

I'd also like to see Weeks & White back, and if whoever the coach is plays them in similar roles to Bevo, then that's giving you some depth & most importantly guys that put in 100% every game!

Perhaps most importantly, need a dominant PG (like all the posts above) to run the team. Caddee had some really promising signs this year, but I think he plays (& creates) much better on the wings & off the on balls out wide.

Oh, and yeah..... Need to give the HEAD coach control of the team!

I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt with Moller, Air Delay (as it IS good to get one back, especially if he's a Hobbit!), but then you lost me with White... He had his chance and it didn't work out... He's doing passable in Wollongong because he's surrounded by nearly every other player on the court being a shooter... He might have found a fresh start at the Hawks, but he was never any good as a King and I think if he is any part of the 10 man roster, that will be a step back...

Ellis and Weeks always had that push to be better though, and with their limited minutes, I thought did really well... I agree that having a proper coach and game plan really helps (queue the pro-Cotter camp with their "but Cotter is a really good coach!" malarkey) but White always got more than his fair share of minutes, just never did anything with them... Couldn't hit the side of a barn, and had one season of good defence (I think got Kings DPOTY?), but then went back downhill again...

I've watched White in the Waratah League & reckon he's good value if given the right role.
If the Kings have 4 scorers/playmakers around him, white would be good for them.

But it will all boil down to getting the right coach & letting the coach coach! It seem liked the head coach this season didn't or wasn't getting to run the subs? Anyone else notice that?

But in saying that Wookie, you make a pretty good point & I like White being a Hawkie & don't want him to leave : )

Wouldn't mind seeing Moller in the red & White too!
Knew he was training with the Hawkies too before picking up the rookie contract with the Kings.

Won't be surprised if Bevo makes at play at him for next season... Especially with the rookie points allocation to him.

The PPR rules regrading some returning players are a bit silly, I guess that's why there's an appeals process. In theory DKD would be rated an 8 for playing in Brazil.
Kober, grab an atlas and lookup Poland ;-)
(Although I don't think 1 point either way is going to break the bank.)

I actually rate Garlepp. (That's not to say you wouldn't swap him if a better offer comes along.)
The problem with Knight is his minutes. He's still a 10 point player, and he's had a fantastic year in Perth but he's not a huge-minute player, and he has been injury prone in the past. With Jawai & Jervis, and 3 forwards on the bench, Perth have plenty of back-up. Plus loyalty means he's only an 8 for us.

1 question worth discussing is whether JK could move to the 4 (as Knight has done)? Allowing you to start both him and Brandt against some line-ups...

I know McRae supposedly had his issues at MU, but somebody like him in the 2 spot (assuming he's gets no more NBA chances and gets tired of the D-League.)
Or somebody like Wilbekin at point.

A healthy Chil is the best player in the NBL, but if Ennis were available and not headed back to Perth he would be a fantastic option. (Or if Perth take Ennis, that would free up Prather...)

Kober, grab an atlas and lookup Poland ;-)

I've watched White in the Waratah League & reckon he's good value if given the right role.
If the Kings have 4 scorers/playmakers around him, white would be good for them.

The problem with Knight is his minutes. He's still a 10 point player, and he's had a fantastic year in Perth but he's not a huge-minute player

Dazz, McRae currently has a 10-day with Cleveland. Had 8 points in today's game.

Ok, so apparently, according to Foxsports writer...

The @SydneyKings' announcement of a new head coach is less than a week away. I'm told it's a 'done deal', and a contract is being finalised

From the conversations I've had, it's more than likely going to be a legitimate (potentially long-term) coach

Marty Clarke?

hahahaha...

Don't even joke about that...

So from the Torrey Craig thread...

Torrey Craig to the Kings, heard they are very interested only cause i know who the coach will be.

Wouldn't be a Taipans assistant coach who used to be the Hawks longtime head coach by any chance?

Funny that it should be mentioned... There was a post on Hoops recently that made me think of Marty Clarke or Mark Radford as Kings coach.

Way to spoil my (forced) day off, Isaac :(