No they haven't. They've been complimentary. Nice try though.

No, they've been quiet....

I was originally in Ebi's corner, but his fitness and play up until three weeks ago was appalling. He was giving the team nothing and in fact had become a liability. At that stage I said I believed the team needed to make a change.

He's now playing well. Credit to him and from a Sixers perspective great to see. But the criticism of him was well and truly warranted, that can't be disputed.

I guess that's what losing 10 kilos does for a professional basketballer. He should have been in this condition from day 1!

Ere + Randle next year? ;)

How is criticising someone who was out of shape, under an injury cloud and in poor form being a "hater"?

And now that he is fitter and in good form, that doesn't mean the previous criticism was unwarranted.

Even his biggest critics have all posted that they are happy he has proved them wrong.

Ere was absolute crap, out of shape and making terrible misses (even couldn't get basic layups in), and for the last 4 or so games, he has been good to even brilliant on occasion.

It's more those who have been constantly bagging Joey Wright, thread after thread, about hurting the club to help a mate, who better get ready for some pie on their face.

I haven't been one of the Ebi or Joey baggers at all, but paul I can see legitimate argument as to why Ebi shouldn't have been signed or should have been let go since it took him about 20 games to be useful.

Perhaps there were circumstances in which Ebi got injured after being signed and further complications which decided it's worth the faith to keep him (which if the case may be a pay off now).

Overall it's tough to bag Joey i think he's a brilliant coach. Great to see Ebi doing well we might well need him to step up big time in Randle's absence

I agree KET, I would have got rid of home myself, but anyone who has questioned Joey's integrity constantly on the basis of this is now starting to look a bit stupid.

Keyboard warriors like Kobe24 don't have to make big picture decisions in the best interests of the club, coaches do, and the decisions Wright has made over three seasons seem to keep turning out well for the 36ers, so I have no time for the personal attacks.

That should read "got rid of him", my home's just fine!

I've been very loud about him, in a very negative way and for good reason. But he has been sensational this past few games and the credit has to be paid to him for his past few games. Won that game for the 36ers tonight. Good try but no one has said he is still shite.

I have no problem with you bagging Ere's form when warranted, but why don't you revisit the personal attacks on Wright for not sacking him. Turns out there was a good reason to keep him.

I must say it's enjoyable seeing the keyboard warrior who has been bagging the 36ers for so long now just get proven wrong time and time again. I'm looking forward to next off-season and more of your predictions of doom and gloom.

Paul your a true idiot. This turn around would have joey surprised. Smartass keyboard warrior

"your a true idiot"

Gold!

Haha. Of course it would, because it surprised you and you know everything. I must say I'm truly surprised you're not enjoying the negativity!

I like your new signature too - Smartarse keyboard warrior.

Good try but no one has said he is still shite.

they all said he should be out of here, replaced asap.

Fans don't hate for the sake of hating, I'm a season ticket holder and all ive wanted is a team that produces on the court. We have a had a very sub par import combo for most of the season, but for some reason it's now clicking very late but it's happening and I'm so happy about it. Has anyone actually still tried to dog his performing?

Hopefully so, will have to if there is any issue that will slow Randle.

"To be honest i expected something like this all season, ala what Penney has done at the Hawks."

Tracking him over recent years, he hasn't been producing at near the level of Penney so that was always a long shot.

It will be interesting to see how long this run of form lasts, he has been a burst player in recent years, a few good, a few bad. If Randle's ok the 36ers can afford for him to be a sparkplug, but if Randle's out for the season they'll need regular output from Ere.

"Keyboard warriors like Kobe24 don't have to make big picture decisions in the best interests of the club, coaches do, and the decisions Wright has made over three seasons seem to keep turning out well for the 36ers, so I have no time for the personal attacks."

Well done Paul for calling out the main offender.

Commenting on poor play by a player is one thing, but attacking the coach's and the player's professional integrity takes it to a whole another level that crosses the line.

it's completely reasonable to see his form and think "this doesn't cut it and won't improve, he's out of date - too old - time to replace him". That's not hating IMO, and it's not "haters gonna hate". "

Ahh...but it didn't end there did it?

Calling Ebi fat / over-weight. That's personal.

Stating Ebi is not cut only because he and Joey are mates, thats personal.

"Fans don't hate for the sake of hating"

That coming from you...and in this forum. That's Gold Bro.

Calling Ebi fat / over-weight. That's personal.

To a degree but it's also a direct factor as to why he wasn't playing to his potential. He's a professional athlete and came to the team completely out of shape. That's a fact - he's basically admitted as much himself.

Do you honestly think it was professional of him to come into the season in the shape he was? Where's his integrity? Credit to him for working his arse off to GET into shape, but fact is he should have BEEN in shape in the first place.

"he's basically admitted as much himself."

Does that make it OK to call people fat online?

Would you call him fat to his face even after his admission?

"Do you honestly think it was professional of him to come into the season in the shape he was?"

He was contracted to attend work at a specific date which he did.

" Where's his integrity?"

Wow....so Ebi has no integrity now?

Do you think the same of Jawai, and Jett? What about Markovic with his personal issues, is he unprofessional for accepting a Kings contract?

Marcus Camby your a nutter don't ever change.

"How is criticising someone who was out of shape, under an injury cloud and in poor form being a "hater"?

And now that he is fitter and in good form, that doesn't mean the previous criticism was unwarranted."


^ Exactly. The fact that he is playing well now is obviously great, but it doesn't magically invalidate all criticism of his shape and his play over the first three quarters of the season. The criticism was warranted IMO. And surely having a guy who can play well in 24 games would have been preferable to a guy who can play well in 4 games.

"Marcus Camby your a nutter don't ever change."

So you have nothing but personal attacks.

How mature.

Do you think the same of Jawai, and Jett?

Actually, I do. But at least Jett and Ebi have worked hard to get themselves in shape. Their situation is so far removed from that of Markovic (and I tend to think you know that) that I'm not even going to dignify it with a response.

So where is Ebi's professional integrity, as a professional sportsman, turning up unable to perform his job to the best of his ability? Answer the question.

To say "He was contracted to attend work at a specific date which he did." is arguably the biggest copout response I've ever heard in my life, and tends to make me think you either don't know how to argue, or are simply a troll.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2007364-gregg-popovich-says-patty-mills-was-a-little-fat-ass-last-season

If you're a pro athlete your condition is fair game and so is your performance. That's just the way it is and the criticism of Ebi's performance was valid, I thought he should have been gone mid-December.

But anyone who was questioning Joey Wright's integrity by saying he was hurting the team just to keep a mate in a job is now starting to look very silly.

There was obviously a reason Wright kept Ere on board and we're now seeing it. There aren't many players around with Ebi's big-game credentials, especially on the modest money that would have been available.

Look Yes I am one of those very negative about Ere and pleased for him and team turned it around.
I also said it was a disgrace how turned up to play in such a unfit state and still do and put blame on injury does not cut it as he is a professional sportsman and even if can't train you don't get that out of shape.
You may pat Ere on back now but if Randell did not come we would not even be close to playing finals and all would mean nothing as his defence and play was one of if not worst we had from import.

I said I hope he doesn't last the season bars on the shit he served up for 3 quarters of the season. I'm more than happy to have him around if he is delivering, so no issue for at moment. Not rocket science fans want results when players turn the corner so to speak it's all gravy. And yeah Marcus personal your a wack job so not much else would sink in.

"Their situation is so far removed from that of Markovic "

Using YOUR logic...

BOTH knew that had issues at the beginning of the Season.

BOTH accepted the contracts knowing the above.

BOTH's performances were impacted by their respective conditions.

Why is Markovic spared from your zero integrity mudslinging?

I don't think Ebi nor Markovic should be judged in that way, but I'm using YOUR logic.

"So where is Ebi's professional integrity, as a professional sportsman, turning up unable to perform his job to the best of his ability?"

In my answer of "He turned up as contracted" I regretfully missed out the below.

Both parties would have known Ebi's condition before the contract was offered and accepted. There was likely even a Medical. Since both parties knew and were willing to engage in the contract, I see no reason to question anyone's integrity.

That is of course you can prove Ebi stated to the Sixers he was in peak Sydney King's health and form?

"I said I hope he doesn't last the season bars on the shit he served up for 3 quarters of the season."

You missed the point...again.

The issue is not your comments on Ebi's game, rather, the personal attacks on Joey and Ebi.

You still probably won't get it after this, but its OK, some people are slower to absorb sentences.

No your not using my logic at all. You're using none. It's ok, I won't be feeding the troll any more.

Thought Ere had a great game against the Hawks. Very confident and to a really receptive crowd. An entertaining game. Hopefully the form sticks for a while yet.

I will stand up for Kobe24 because unlike OP claims, he absolutely didn't disappear when Ere started playing well - he was one of the first to acknowledge it, and repeatedly.

And yes, remarking on a player's fitness seems fair to me. If he's seemed like a broken record, it's because he responds when people engage him on it. So be it.

FWIW, I've heard things supposedly from both sides about which of coach or club wanted to keep Ere and which wanted to replace him during the season.

Thanks Isaac.