Have Crocs won two games in a row yet this season? I'd be picking Sydney.

Im going with Townsville. They keep crushing my Wildcats and Id like to see them crush the Kings.

If only so we get another 'Time for Sydney to go into Voluntary Administration' topic post.

The Kings can avoid the spoon, especially if they can beat the Crocs in both remaining games.

They are certainly sentimental favourites for it.

Djeric out injured.

Kings by 7.

Crocs win.

Jett to do very little.
Hopefully Steindl can light up. Watching that dude is worth admission price alone!

Bucket fest early doors.
Zero D being offered up.

Hilarious D!

Cadee is a spud.

Dude turns it over constantly. He's supposed to have the best handle.
Useless.

How does that alley oop result in a foul against Childress?

Sorry just hate calls like that. Childress jumps for an equal contest and Crocs player just happens to come off second best and its a foul.

Whatever happened to being able to contest a ball on mid air?

Missed the first half, but Cadee's handles are OK, it's his passing and decision making that are usually shockingly un-PGish.

Shane Heal is like the reverse-Carfino, loves sticking it to the Kings (for obvious reasons)... although usually he's spot on.

Chill and co seem to be keeping the ball out of Cadee's hands.
If they want to win....smart decision.

I don't know why the Crocs aren't just getting Jett to drive straight down the key every possession. Kings haven't shown they can keep a guard outside the key.

Kings help defense is atrocious... how many open looks do we want to give Steindl! Lucky they aren't dropping.

Jeezus christ. Do the Kings know they're winning?! What the hell was that... frantic shot after frantic shot, then a bad drive from Thornton.

Jordair!!

SAMHAN!!!!

Kings snatch defeat from the jaws of victory once again.

Kings are a woeful outfit.

No composure down the stretch. They had that game.

Cadee needs to take out a patent on those poorly timed 3s. All season he seems to pick the exact right moment to chuck up a brick that begins another Kings lapse.

Townsville by 8!

I got no issue with Cadee in general, we just don't have an actual PG who can calm guys down in the crunch, milk some clock, and run a set. Guys like Carter/Cadee and Thornton (in theory, at least) are 'instant offense' guys who you inject for scoring in spurts and sit if they miss a couple in a row, but we have all three of them sharing the 1-2 spots.

Markovic was supposed to have been that guy.

I like Prewster quite a bit, probably not a good fit on a struggling team. He'd slot in very nice in Illawarra ahead of White IMO.

So no love for Townsville then? People need to start realising the Crocs are not the pushovers everything thought they'd be.

I would think by this point of the year no one would think the Crocs are pushovers. Yeah Jett had a good steal and Samhan a nice three (plus the saved board), but it was the lack of composure from Sydney that ultimately cost them the game.

"Kings this season would have to be the worst iteration I have ever seen."

"This Kings team would have to be the WORST team i have ever seen in sport in Australia..."


Worse than the Moose Robiliard years?

Worse than the Moose Robiliard years?

Defense is largely attitude and that comes from the coaching staff.

The Kings have developed a losing culture that, unfortunately, probably means a lot of change is required to move in the right direction.

The current roster at the start of this season was definitely a competitive team on paper. A fit Childress, Kazouh (sp?), Garlepp, Thornton, and Cadee is a good starting five. With Brandt, Markovic, Hill, Prewster, Carter being a solid bench.

Having Childress injured and the constantly changing roster (Harrington etc) it has meant players are playing out of position and that losing start has further damaged the culture which they haven't been able to change.

With Childress, Kazouh, Thornton as the main scoring options then Cadee can be more of a distributor and running offense. But without them he has taken on a scoring role which, with his decision making, is not his strength when playing the PG. (A scoring PG is always difficult to implement into team structure).

Thornton would have been much better with less pressure playing off Childress and Kazouh all season.

It will definitely be interesting to see what direction the Kings head in. On one hand they need some stability in the coaching/playing group, but on the other hand they need some changes to address the losing culture and get a better balanced team.

To be fair, they've been pathetic on the boards all year, not just since their season became a write-off.

It's good to see they'll win something though.

Now there is an interesting stat for the history buffs: which NBL team has the most wooden spoons in their trophy cabinet?

D4444: Does the team still exist currently?

I don't think it's a current team but I'm not as into the history & philosophy of the NBL as some others who frequent these forums.

Hobart have four, although one was when their were conferences and they were the worst team in their conference but not the worst team in the league.

If you don't want to count the conference spoon, Geelong, Hobart and Adelaide are all tied with three.

Bankstown, Cairns, Canberra, Illawarra/Wollongong, Newcastle, Sydney (one as Supersonics), Townsville and West Sydney all have two.

Brisbane, Devonport, Forrestville, Glenelg, both Gold Coast teams, Hunter, Melbourne, NZ, South, St Kilda and Westside have also finished on the bottom of the ladder. Perth finished the bottom of their conference, but not the league.