Matthew
Years ago
Hey.. are you the same Luuuc that posted the awesome Beal 3' point academy video? If so awesome work.
Train
Years ago
That graphic is awesome :P
Danger game here for the Cats, I think Cairns are like 8-3 their in recent times.
Hansi
Years ago
While Perth being the better team I get a sneaking feeling the Taipans have more riding on this game and will win while Perth dose not have as much on the line and wont be as desperate.
Taipans by 6
Luuuc
Years ago
In games like this there's also that danger that the Cats will be looking ahead to the Crocs game and trying to keep something in reserve.
I'm also interested to see how the Cats pulled up from last round, health-wise. Something seems to have been odd to me about Kenny's minutes lately, and we know Prather is having trouble with his knee.
Matthew
Years ago
Cats by 9. Jawai to destroy Cairns after he beats Godzilla.
LV
Years ago
Cairns matches up well against Perth
Cairns has legit size and muscle, meaning that Perth can't overpower them on the inside quite like they have against the Hawks, 36ers and UTD.
Cairns is also 5-1 at home this season.
On the other hand, Perth's D and rebounding is at a consistently good level so they will rarely get substantially beaten.
I'm tipping this goes down to the final minute.
Luuuc
Years ago
FWIW, the only time we've played this season was in Perth, when the Wildcats escaped with a 1 point win.
That was without Damo.
Camel 31
Years ago
Oh my goodness!. Now that I have caught my breath, after seeing that,Perth deserve to win.
Luuuc
Years ago
Cairns: $2.25
Perth: $1.65
Line: 2.5 pts
O/U: 166.5 pts
Dazz
Years ago
Definitely a danger game for Perth. Ostensibly they are the better team, but Cairns are no slouches and have the home advantage. Can easily see this going either way.
Jack Toft
Years ago
Very much the danger game for the Cats who tend to be lazy on the road for "non-important games"
Can see Cairns getting this one on the last play
Bear
Years ago
An upset is always on the cards, especially this season, what a great NBL we are enjoying, but I think the Wildcats may just hang on here for a close win!
AngusH
Years ago
Burston is a lot of things, but a sole defender against Jawai in the post should not be one of them.
AngusH
Years ago
A guy Jawai's size should never bother trying to drive in the NBL, because you just know it's going to be a charging foul.
AngusH
Years ago
Nice block by Wortho, surprised Prather didn't throw that down.
Indoorkite
Years ago
And dumb fouls. He's definitely dropped off this year.
Luuuc
Years ago
When you're blocking a shot that easily, why not just control it to your own advantage rather than batting it 20 metres away.
6ers
Years ago
these refs are clearly calling anything for the Taipans
Kyrie2Nation
Years ago
Perth are lazy and playing terrible. Almost like they don't give a shit.
This team is a joke at the minute. The offence looks like crap
Not sure what Gleeson coaches on offence but it's turnovers and no spacing
Prather needs to attack the basket non stop. He will either draw a double or a foul. If he draws a double ha can kick it out to the open man or he force teams into fouL trouble
Tim
Years ago
His on top of the ladder, game not over yet, ( we read your post Anonymous so anti Gleeson)
AngusH
Years ago
Prather seems to pass out of the shot off the drive a lot for a guy who can basically get to the hoop at will.
Indoorkite
Years ago
He's starting to overuse the euro step. It's too easily predicted now.
AngusH
Years ago
AGreed re: the euro step... if you're gaurding Prather on the break you just step in front of the basket.
james
Years ago
Taipans cant play any better then this while Perth are paying in second gear. Stay close and catch fire late.
Indoorkite
Years ago
Fucking hell nbl. This league would be so good if it weren't for the refs.
George
Years ago
Yep. NBL. 1v 6. 6 winning at 3/4 time.58-49. Taipans great. Cats average. Another upset brewing
Luuuc
Years ago
14 wildcat turnovers in 3 quarters. I'm a little surprised. Seems like even more.
AngusH
Years ago
When the Wildcats don't have one perimeter player playing out of his mind from behind the arc they look a lot like the team I expected them to be before the season began.
AngusH
Years ago
Hire is making it a lot easier to tell him and Wagstaff apart on the court this year - Hire is the one that plays like shite.
George
Years ago
Can someone explain Martins role for the Cats to me? Please!!! Why is a guard in a team & this guy has only taken 3 shots all game. Am I missing something here?
Luuuc
Years ago
Missed open layup, missed dunk... Sometimes it just ain't your night
Kyrie2Nation
Years ago
Martin isn't accumulating stats like he normally does.
AngusH
Years ago
Every minute Martin has been on the court this season he has pretty much been recovering from an injury, but he's a reluctant scorer even when healthy. It's just that he usually ends up with 8 rebounds, 4 assists, and 6 steals to go with his 4 points. Not so much this year.
Kyrie2Nation
Years ago
Martin isn't even getting assists. Mostly Jawai and Beal are.
knighty knight
Years ago
Perth has played well below what they can play.
AngusH
Years ago
Bruce was unlucky not to have an easy 2, but not sure about that play from Wortho... either take Wagtstaff to the hoop, or give it off to a guard.
Luuuc
Years ago
Wortho going the hero play on a step back 3... I'll take those odds
Perth's last quarter defence especially in the last 4 minutes was insane.
Kyrie2Nation
Years ago
Terrible game and how Perth won I'll never know, they were in second gear all game and got the W.
I guess if Starks didn't get injured the result may have been different.
AngusH
Years ago
Considering how well Starks started the game, definitely.
Beal had a shocker, Knight outside of the game winner was terribe, Prather was pretty poor.
Luuuc
Years ago
Won't win any awards for pretty basketball, but I'll happily take the road win.
Taipans will be kicking themselves for letting that one slip away. Didn't think the cats particularly deserved it.
$ Beal should be may $0.75 less GST and inconsistency.
Must be great to have a guy like Wagstaff coming off the bench.
three points
Years ago
The idiot who was bashing Trevor is pretty quiet now?
No reason to get too excited with Cairns havin the loss of 1 import.
No wonder Perth fans are considered arrogant.
Heaters
Years ago
@ Anonymous #571349
Don't confuse confidence that comes from winning 6 titles as arrogance. If you're not sure what arrogance looks like just ask Wortho - he wrote the book on it.
Ugly game for sure and agree that the referring is absolutely destroying the NBL.
Great to hear that the Cats have won 3 titles in the last 15 years? 3 titles in the 90's means exactly what in the 21st century? Your point is?
Perth has been in 5 grand finals for two titles from 2000 till now. Had it not been for key injuries probaly would have had a few more tites especially in 2011 and 2012.
Train
Years ago
I don't know why anyone is surprised with how this game was played. Perth V Cairns games are traditionally a low scoring slug fest. Game could of gone either way tonight but Perh have the benefit of going into that higher gear when it matters.
Huge game coming up for Perth sat night vs Crocs.
Cairns can pretty much say goodbye to their finals hopes unfortunately.
Marcus Camby
Years ago
@Anon'349
Can you show us where Perth fans were arrogant about the win?
The known Cats fans' comments above pretty much concede that it was an ugly win, possibly even fortunate with Stark's injury.
If anything they have been humble about the getting out of there with a W.
Perth has 3 key games on the road coming up. Crocs, United and Cairns again. If they can get a 2-1 record that leaves them in a good position(15-6) because of their run home is fantastic with a spades of home games.
Dazz
Years ago
What the F@$%& do people want?
Cairns is a dammn good defensive team (or at least they are against the Cats). Blowouts where Beal drains 40 and the team 100+ are the exception, not the rule.
This was a typical hard-fought class between these two teams, and I for one am absolutely stoked to get the win. Very handy to bank that road win at the start of their trip.
Victorian wildcat
Years ago
Winning ugly is still winning, we looked uninterested for the majority of the game. Championship calibre teams find a way to win even when they are playing poorly. Alot of players were well done last night, but happy to take a win anytime.
PeterJohn
Years ago
"Cairns is a dammn good defensive team"
Used to be. Not this year. Against anyone.
Only Sydney and Illawarra give up more points per game. Cairns have a positive points split against only one team - Melbourne (+3).
Their defence has been rubbish compared to Cairns teams of the last 4 years.
LV
Years ago
Cky that Cairns threw away their lead by missing open shots in that last 5 minutes.
They're also lucky that Cairns’ leading scorer and main finisher at the death- Starks- went down with an injury in the first half.
A win’s a win, of course, but Gleeson would be mostly unhappy with the Cats effort last night.
paul
Years ago
"Used to be. Not this year. Against anyone.
Only Sydney and Illawarra give up more points per game. Cairns have a positive points split against only one team - Melbourne (+3).
Their defence has been rubbish compared to Cairns teams of the last 4 years."
If you look a little deeper you'll get a better picture. The Taipans are conceding 77.7 points/40 minutes at home compared to 92.1 on the road. So in Cairns they are a good defensive team.
Supernintendo Chalmers
Years ago
Perth's D was pretty solid too in the final few.
Wortho may have been the top scorer but he also cost his team the game. He gets too involved in his personal battles at times and he picked a really bad time to do it.
Supernintendo Chalmers
Years ago
"When the Wildcats don't have one perimeter player playing out of his mind from behind the arc they look a lot like the team I expected them to be before the season began."
Thats complete crap. They've won games this year by slowing it to a grind, matching it with the high scoring fast break teams, and of course we had Beal and Wagstaff with the hot hands in the previous two games. This "unbalanced" line up has started clicking in the past 8 games and I don't think they've been a one man show in all but two of those games.
paul
Years ago
Wortho was also outstanding defensively, and got a bum call from Chris Reid when Martin ran through his screen (Reid then stood a couple of metres away from Jawai's pick which had a little more movement than Wortho's and let it go).
Hedid get caught up for a few possessions, but there's no way Worthington cost them the game, Damo just hit a tough three at the end of that little duel which I'm sure Fearne would have been happy for him to shoot.
paul
Years ago
Agree re the Wildcats not relying on an individual, they've got incredible depth and they utilise it well.
Supernintendo Chalmers
Years ago
Bad call on Wortho aside, he set a rough pick on Martin in the backcourt just prior to that which was let go. It fired Martin up an it resulted in him smashing him back (unusual for Martin) which was the offensive foul. Even though Martin went through him, Wortho still went for another moving/late screen and the refs didn't let him get away with it again.
I think he gets distracted when he decides to impose his presence on someone that he has decided to target, and doing that in the final three minutes is dumb.
paul
Years ago
He got distracted, but all he actually did was get what looked like a bad call and then fire Damo up into shooting a three, which would usually be a good result for Cairns. If you look at how good Wortho was at both ends during the game, you might see he gave them the chance to win.
Supernintendo Chalmers
Years ago
He normally gets in to one of these battles in the first half. He chose to do it with three minutes to go. Bad timing.
Fair call, he was their best player, not just top scorer.
paul
Years ago
Agree he let it get to him too much at a really important time. He should know better at his age, but a chance to go off at the refs seems to be too good to refuse.
Matthew
Years ago
Martin was quoted in the WEst Australian newspaper today that his team was essentially outplayed for 3 quarters.
He is also occasionally on Sport FM during the week, hopefully possible today or tomorrow.
koberulz
Years ago
"Only Sydney and Illawarra give up more points per game. Cairns have a positive points split against only one team - Melbourne (+3).
Their defence has been rubbish compared to Cairns teams of the last 4 years."
What does points differential have to do with defence?
Points per game is also affected by pace. Come back when you have DRtgs.
paul
Years ago
D-ratings are handy but limited by not measuring ability to slow pace defensively nor generate offence from defence.
Dazz
Years ago
If you look a little deeper you'll get a better picture. The Taipans are conceding 77.7 points/40 minutes at home compared to 92.1 on the road. So in Cairns they are a good defensive team.
Correct, and this was the first time they have played Perth in Cairns this season. Whatever the reason, they seem to match up very well against Perth, and close games are the norm.
Cairns are not where they were at last season, they will probably miss the finals, no Wilbekin is a big part of that, but they are still capable of forcing some close games.
Dazz
Years ago
Both Beal and Knight had quiet games, and that is reflected in the total score, but fortunately we had enough of a spread to still get the job done.
Nobody is pretending it was pretty, but a win is a win.
If the Kings had any idea they woud be offering Wagstaff a big deal to lure him back home. The guy is a winner. He just all the little things to get his team over the line.
Give him a bigger offensive role and you got a great player.
Matthew
Years ago
I think Wagstaff is gonna be a one club player. He would look at Sydney and see the turnover of coaches they have had, and the resources he has at the Wildcats (and now where they (Kings) are going to play).
Kobe24
Years ago
The money it'd take for Wagstaff to move wouldn't be worth it. Kings would have too over pay him to move from his pretty great gig in WA.
PeterJohn
Years ago
paul - yes, their defence is better at home than away. But this year they give up 10 more PPG at home than last year and 22 PPG more away.
Across the league, teams on average are giving up 1PPG more at home and 4PPG more away.
I stand by my view that "Their defence has been rubbish compared to Cairns teams of the last 4 years."
paul
Years ago
Have you actually looked at their defensive performance the past four years? Because it wasn't great in 2013/14 and it's usually linked to their offence.
For mine, when Wilson and Wilbekin were controlling the offence the D was good, when they rely too much on motion sets they open up transition for the oppo.
Wildcats80
Years ago
Funny how when the wildcats win, every excuse under the sun comes up, like injuries, or refs, seriously, time to give where credit is due, Perth are a contender and like other teams, have faced some adversity, whilst damp isn't big on scoring he is our leader and general, missed I believe 8 games, Prather has missed 3.
Gleeson bashers, on the telecast they said he has a record of 155-115 which isn't too bad at all.
what was the crowd no. for this game?
on the tv coverage they had a graphic and it said 3700 something
but can't find it now anywhere in print online
Dazz
Years ago
Lure Wagstaff "home"? I have NEVER met a Canberran would would consider Sydney home.
Besides I don't think he would leave Perth unless pushed. He does very well coming off the bench for Perth, and sometimes he excels and is a game-winner for them. We always hoped he would become a starter, but its looking less likely.
He probably would find a gig starting for a lesser team, and do a passable job, but he's not the game-changer that you'd throw big money at.
Bench or not, he's won two 'ships with the Cats and every year they're in contention. Unless he is pushed out, it would take a big offer to move him, and I just don't see it being worth it.
Dazz
Years ago
what was the crowd no. for this game?
on the tv coverage they had a graphic and it said 3700 something
Austadiums is usually pretty good, but they don't have December's games at the Convention Centre for some reason.
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