Wouild probably on ly be Melb Uni now wouldn`t it. And even they have a knock around league there at the Uni I think.

Didn't someone post in another thread about Keysborough?

I know they have low numbers in VJBL but how about domestic, surely they have.

Original topic title was "FOUNDATION." Is "Clubs without domestic programs" a reasonable replacement to make it more descriptive?

Is it best as a state-specific discussion or national?

I'm not sure if Keysie are affiliated, anyone know?

Although we (Melbourne Uni) don't run a competition, we do have a few hundred members who play domestic basketball for us at MSAC on Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday nights and we often run MMBL teams as well.

I'd say we are probably Australia's biggest domestic club for adults. Probably a bit over half are students, the rest are post-grads. Generally, anyone with a tertiary education who wants a game at any adult level is welcomed to the club. We actually have quite a large base of international students playing in the beginner grades right up to the top squads which have historically had a lot of success in the MMBL, Big V and before that, the VBL.

The lack of a junior program makes it a bit hard to recruit for state league basketball but we tend to pick up players from our University Games team and various other places. The social atmosphere at the club tends to do a lot of the recruiting for us.

I imagine it would be very difficult to fund a Big V/SEABL program given the costs involved unless it was offset by contribution from a domestic program. In our case, we also receive a partial stipend from the University of Melbourne to further their mandate of social development of the student base.

Then is Keysie the only VJBL/Big V club without a domestic program. How do they get VJBL, no disrespect but is that picking up players cut from Dandy, McKinnon, Sandy, Chelsea, Frankston etc.

Melbourne Tigers have no domestic program whatsoever. How are they affiliated with VJBL?

BY domestic "program" are we talking about having their own domestic comp? Or that they have domestic teams from which they choose their rep teams?

eg.. Whittlesea don't have a domestic club, but they have their own comp whereby they draw their rep players from ( as well as open tryouts)

Whereas Eltham are a domestic club who draw primarily on that program for their rep teams.

Bulleen also seem to be in the same boat but play in the Eltham domestic comp. ( Although a couple of Bulleen rep players who my son played against this season play domestic for a purely domestic club in the Eltham comp.).

So ... which is it?

Melbourne don't have either. That is a domestic competition or domestic teams of their own. They are a Rep club only, which is in contradiction of BV by-laws and VJBL eligibility.

Don't ask that question too loudly in BV circles if you don't wish to create a few enemies.

Well Melbourne aren't aligned with Oakleigh they run their own independent competitions.

Port Phillip are affiliated with the MSAC competitions.

Again Melbourne are not aligned with any domestic competition.

Bottom line if governance rules were enforced properly Melbourne and maybe one or two other wouldn't be affiliated.

That would be a hoot!!!

^if you read the OP, they are asking about viability in this instance. It hasn't been answered, except to some degree by the University poster, but it is an interesting question.

Keysborough's domestic teams are probably better than their rep teams lol.

The reason for this is that years ago you had to pass certain credentials to get in to Big V/SEABL e.g. financial stability, good stadium, committee structure, foundation (domestic & VJBL) etc, Keysie don't seem to have any of this yet if you apply then you get in lets be honest. Dont get me wromg Keysie have done well considering they have all players from other clubs but what happened to elite and earning the right.

Why would they replace men's coach after winning D2 ?
Who's the ex-Casey coach they've hired?

Why would you run one club but send your children elsewhere?